Norsca is my favorite chaos faction other than the beastmen. Its only after I started playing total war warhammer that I'm starting to learn of these new factions and now I'm Really starting to broaden my horizons on the warhammer fantasy world. When I start collecting table top models norsca will definitely be one of the factions.
Same I love playing as norsca in the total war warhammer games. They are more grounded then the chaos faction. Feels like to me they don't rely on dark powers as much as the chaos faction where some units in the chaos faction are somewhat mutated. but with norsca they rely more on their own strength and faith in the chaos gods. Plus their inspiration comes from our nordic cultures which is a big plus in my book. When I get my new pc the first faction I'm going to play as is norsca and as they say "enslave the southerners"
Played Total War: Warhammer less than a week ago but knew absolutely nothing about the lore (however am a huge 40k fan) then stumbled upon your video as a recommendation from UA-cam after watching a lot of Total War: Warhammer multiplayer battles. Good stuff, sir. Subscribed!
26:15, I actually had to look it up, but the god of the sea is not Myrmidon, it's Manaan, Myrmidon is actually a 40k reference, though there is a goddess named Myrmidia, who is kind of similar to Athena/Minerva
4:53 - *Jumbo* mentions the Vikings here... There's no doubt the Norsca tribes are inspired from the _mythical_ "Vikings" in popular history. Only the most Scandinavians from this time were good farmers, not forced to sustain them selves on a completely barren lands. Historians believe the real reason Vikings started to travel from their homes came out of curiosity and greed. Not the need to sustain them selves. Obviously, one cannot maintain a whole population on exclusively slaves and jewelry. Slaves also need to eat. Transportation of large crops didn't exist in this time. It would be far simpler to just move and start a mass immigration-in comparison to move the riches to the North. Myth; debunked. Great video by the way! I just started to play the Norsca campign - can't wait to find out about their dark norscan history. Gotta love the World of Total Warhammer.
I believe they were also fueled by a overpopulation of lesser nobility. It wasn't really that the people couldn't sustain themselves, more than there wasn't enough land and resources to maintain the lifestyles of the growing nobility, and so they had the choice to either be poor or to go settle or conquer new land, or to raid and bring wealth back home to climb the social latter. Similar to how early colonization of the Americas would become, for the British and Spanish at least, a convenient place to get rid of young, aggressive, ambitious, and violent young men with noble titles to keep them from cutting each others throats in the mother country. Granted, greed and curiosity definitely played a part in all of this, but to the young nobles leading the vikings it was essentially seen as their only method of maintaining or acquiring wealth. Iceland would also become a large proto-republican island of exile for those fleeing the new centralizing and Christianising authority in Norway.
Btw when you talked about the the weak men of the south, yeah norscans just do not retreat unless its a completely lost cause. Like holy fuck I love em.
They went toe to toe with bretonnia. Blow for blow and both sides never yielded. Until one of the bretonnia leaders challenged the norsca leader to single combat. And the norsca leader had two giant warhammers. They are Vikings on Steroids
@@lelouche25 also they only lost cause of the single combat where there leader was killed. Said who ever loses have to leave. Lol and they kept their word and left. Just like "aight you guys won this one ok respect. We going to leave now"
Good vid, but just quick, the 'vikings' were warriors, but the people of the vikings were northmen, whom farmed and lived of it. Viking in old norse and Donsk tonga as far as i remember means raiders, or the verb to raid or go on a raid. Which were more like a Job than a civilization.
If you're going to be very specific not even the whole warrior cast were Vikings. As Viking roughly means to go raiding. Only the ones that left Scandinavia or left their lands to raid other Scandinavian countries were Vikings
in the real world vikings didn't raid because they had to but because they could. See scandinavia isn't a barren tundra and it speciak´lly wasn't 1000 years ago but the vikings were good at farming and had the surplus to sustain groups of them going on weeklong boating trips to raid. the reason vikings are remembered as being tall is because pretty much everywhere else in europe people were malnurished and therefore didnt grow very large.
you said the lustrian colony was founded by lust Erikson (couldn't figure out the first word you said) is probably a reference to leaf erikson who was a Viking who supposedly sailed to the Americas and set up an outpost there.
I also wonder how much the chaos gods care about the Norscan. I wonder if they wove a hall for them to live out until they are needed make them daemons.
Heavily depends on which Chaos God. Khorne cares for the strong and takes care of them and Nurgle cares for all of them for they are his children Tzeetch is complicated, but he does offer an alternative. Whether or not he cares for you is debatable but he offers a way out for those who are in tune with magic Slaanesh is even more complicated
how to demoralize the norsca 1. Capture as many as you can after a battle (if you win) 2. Take one guy and separate him from the others, then force him to watch as you and your men cut the arms off of his comrades. 3. Take a few from the group, tie heavy weights around them then push them off into a lake and force the others to watch them drown 4. After all of that force the rest on one of their long ships. then tell the one you kept in tact (didn't cut his hands off) and have him deliver a message to the other norsca clans to come here and fight us so we can cut their arms off too. do this enough times and if successful you will demoralize the norsca, use their religion against them.
This isn’t gonna scare them, it’s just gonna guarantee that bigger, better armies of Norscans come after you. If you beat them, then you’re a mighty foe, and if you’re a mighty foe, then defeating you will bring a lot of glory.
Haven’t gotten this dlc. But seems to be where my ancestry is at. Wasn’t a fan of choas. Endlessly recapping and destroying shit with no gain. Then mid and end game so much cheese.
You are a warrior and not afraid of a god of war that is cunning as well? Join the green side and worship Gork...or Mork...who cares whom of them is whom? WAAAAGHHH!!
There are non-Chaos worshipping Norscans who fight alongside the Norscan Dwarfs of Kraka Drak. They're even in the Kraka Drak mod as recruitable infantry.
Also the Hung. Both only sort of, tho. Both are horse riding nomads, which are not represented by warriors of Chaos which have a clear focus on infantry.
Palace of the Plague Lord Wulfrik Knight of the Realm The Claws of Chaos The Heart of Chaos The Blades of Chaos Valkia Sigvald Talon of Khorne Fall of Marienburg
Vikings did not raid for the sake of getting food... Vikings were first and foremost farmers before anything having plentyfull of lifestock and grain to survive....
Their communities would not be able to exist. You need crops and organised agriculture supplemented by hunting. As Charles Darwin recognised 'those species which have the most empathy for raising their young produce the largest populations'. The survival of the fittest has been debunked and it is misinterpreted by too many. If it was true then humans would have destroyed themselves thousands of years ago. Therefore these norse could not exist or even have a diet which produced muscular warriors. You need social stability and a guarrenteed proper diet to be like that. They just could not be like that in reality 🤔
Survival of the fittest is definitely misinterpretted but not debunked. Taking care of ones young would quite easily fall under the fittest. Being the fittest isnt always about the strongest individuals but just as much about the species strengths and weaknesses as a collective. Even in the most survivable species certain genetic mutations can become major problems if passed down to a large portion of the population so biologically it can make a lot of sense to isolate certain defects and not allow them to be passed down. Only people view this in a moral sense
''reminiscent of the vikings of the real world'' by the gods, you americans still think Scandinavian was a frozen wasteland.. IT WAS not. let me give you the real version. We had so great lands that we were able to feed.That ment we became ''too many'' that is why many sailed out and finded new land and ''raid'' It's called Viking so it was a job really. Because many sailed out to form their own ''kingdom'' If you take a look on Englands east side. You will find a town that was Danish. It still carry the names.
Norsca is my favorite chaos faction other than the beastmen. Its only after I started playing total war warhammer that I'm starting to learn of these new factions and now I'm Really starting to broaden my horizons on the warhammer fantasy world. When I start collecting table top models norsca will definitely be one of the factions.
Same I love playing as norsca in the total war warhammer games. They are more grounded then the chaos faction. Feels like to me they don't rely on dark powers as much as the chaos faction where some units in the chaos faction are somewhat mutated. but with norsca they rely more on their own strength and faith in the chaos gods. Plus their inspiration comes from our nordic cultures which is a big plus in my book. When I get my new pc the first faction I'm going to play as is norsca and as they say "enslave the southerners"
Played Total War: Warhammer less than a week ago but knew absolutely nothing about the lore (however am a huge 40k fan) then stumbled upon your video as a recommendation from UA-cam after watching a lot of Total War: Warhammer multiplayer battles. Good stuff, sir. Subscribed!
He said Wonton bloodshed. 🥟🥟
Best total war Warhammer lore videos out, good work - Makes playing the campaign far more rich when you know your faction's backstory.
26:15, I actually had to look it up, but the god of the sea is not Myrmidon, it's Manaan, Myrmidon is actually a 40k reference, though there is a goddess named Myrmidia, who is kind of similar to Athena/Minerva
4:53 - *Jumbo* mentions the Vikings here...
There's no doubt the Norsca tribes are inspired from the _mythical_ "Vikings" in popular history. Only the most Scandinavians from this time were good farmers, not forced to sustain them selves on a completely barren lands. Historians believe the real reason Vikings started to travel from their homes came out of curiosity and greed. Not the need to sustain them selves. Obviously, one cannot maintain a whole population on exclusively slaves and jewelry. Slaves also need to eat. Transportation of large crops didn't exist in this time. It would be far simpler to just move and start a mass immigration-in comparison to move the riches to the North.
Myth; debunked.
Great video by the way!
I just started to play the Norsca campign - can't wait to find out about their dark norscan history. Gotta love the World of Total Warhammer.
I believe they were also fueled by a overpopulation of lesser nobility. It wasn't really that the people couldn't sustain themselves, more than there wasn't enough land and resources to maintain the lifestyles of the growing nobility, and so they had the choice to either be poor or to go settle or conquer new land, or to raid and bring wealth back home to climb the social latter. Similar to how early colonization of the Americas would become, for the British and Spanish at least, a convenient place to get rid of young, aggressive, ambitious, and violent young men with noble titles to keep them from cutting each others throats in the mother country.
Granted, greed and curiosity definitely played a part in all of this, but to the young nobles leading the vikings it was essentially seen as their only method of maintaining or acquiring wealth.
Iceland would also become a large proto-republican island of exile for those fleeing the new centralizing and Christianising authority in Norway.
Both of you forgot the most pressing matter: encroachment of Christianity from the south, which the Norse saw as a threat to their way of life.
@@heathenpride7931 No they didn't care and there weren't really encroachment of Christianity if any preists showed up you just killed him lmao
Great video, I especially like the background music.
Btw when you talked about the the weak men of the south, yeah norscans just do not retreat unless its a completely lost cause. Like holy fuck I love em.
They went toe to toe with bretonnia. Blow for blow and both sides never yielded. Until one of the bretonnia leaders challenged the norsca leader to single combat. And the norsca leader had two giant warhammers. They are Vikings on Steroids
@@NordicJarl27 that's why they're so fucking cool
@@lelouche25 you damn right they are. That we can both agree on lol
@@lelouche25 also they only lost cause of the single combat where there leader was killed. Said who ever loses have to leave. Lol and they kept their word and left. Just like "aight you guys won this one ok respect. We going to leave now"
Good vid, but just quick, the 'vikings' were warriors, but the people of the vikings were northmen, whom farmed and lived of it. Viking in old norse and Donsk tonga as far as i remember means raiders, or the verb to raid or go on a raid. Which were more like a Job than a civilization.
If you're going to be very specific not even the whole warrior cast were Vikings. As Viking roughly means to go raiding. Only the ones that left Scandinavia or left their lands to raid other Scandinavian countries were Vikings
Yeah a Viking is a raid and the people who went on them were called vikingrs
Like a ride and rider
This makes me hope we get some maps all the way in norsca for vermintide 2
in the real world vikings didn't raid because they had to but because they could. See scandinavia isn't a barren tundra and it speciak´lly wasn't 1000 years ago but the vikings were good at farming and had the surplus to sustain groups of them going on weeklong boating trips to raid.
the reason vikings are remembered as being tall is because pretty much everywhere else in europe people were malnurished and therefore didnt grow very large.
All the Wisconsin warlords, my favourite
Love your videos. keep it up! I watch them as I work!
you said the lustrian colony was founded by lust Erikson (couldn't figure out the first word you said) is probably a reference to leaf erikson who was a Viking who supposedly sailed to the Americas and set up an outpost there.
Sorry about that his name was Losteriksson and yes a great deal of warhammer reflects actual historical events.
thank you it is neat that even though it is a fantasy world it still takes a lot of inspiration from reality
I also wonder how much the chaos gods care about the Norscan. I wonder if they wove a hall for them to live out until they are needed make them daemons.
It's what I like to believe. Khorne just has some Halls somewhere else where he goes to pick which norse warriors will become demons
Heavily depends on which Chaos God. Khorne cares for the strong and takes care of them and Nurgle cares for all of them for they are his children
Tzeetch is complicated, but he does offer an alternative. Whether or not he cares for you is debatable but he offers a way out for those who are in tune with magic
Slaanesh is even more complicated
Great video. Any chance you can do one about the Hung and Kurgan?
how to demoralize the norsca
1. Capture as many as you can after a battle (if you win)
2. Take one guy and separate him from the others, then force him to watch as you and your men cut the arms off of his comrades.
3. Take a few from the group, tie heavy weights around them then push them off into a lake and force the others to watch them drown
4. After all of that force the rest on one of their long ships. then tell the one you kept in tact (didn't cut his hands off) and have him deliver a message to the other norsca clans to come here and fight us so we can cut their arms off too.
do this enough times and if successful you will demoralize the norsca, use their religion against them.
This isn’t gonna scare them, it’s just gonna guarantee that bigger, better armies of Norscans come after you.
If you beat them, then you’re a mighty foe, and if you’re a mighty foe, then defeating you will bring a lot of glory.
Haven’t gotten this dlc. But seems to be where my ancestry is at. Wasn’t a fan of choas. Endlessly recapping and destroying shit with no gain. Then mid and end game so much cheese.
Nice video! Keep up the good work
You are a warrior and not afraid of a god of war that is cunning as well? Join the green side and worship Gork...or Mork...who cares whom of them is whom? WAAAAGHHH!!
Gork is brutally cunning, Mork is cunningly brutal
@@garretth8224 no gork is cunningly brutal and mork is brutally cunning
Fuck that greenskin leadership sucks.
btw, do you happen to remember the name of the song or soundtrack that is on this video??
Will you cover wood elf lore?
Eventually. Though I do not have a set schedule for factions at the moment.
I hope know warhammer the old world expand more of their lore
Hey man.✌
Have you lore about chaos dwarfs?👺
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Found it! Yes you have. Nice one.👍
So is ther Any NON CHAOS norsmen... For example Ulic and Ursul worshipers?
They arent chaos worshippers come on
There are non-Chaos worshipping Norscans who fight alongside the Norscan Dwarfs of Kraka Drak. They're even in the Kraka Drak mod as recruitable infantry.
@@angrygardengnome8383 That's not lore friendly
Yes? There are other norscans who worship others, such as their ancestors
the kurgans are what make up most chaos warriors
Also the Hung. Both only sort of, tho. Both are horse riding nomads, which are not represented by warriors of Chaos which have a clear focus on infantry.
Cant find the first song anywhere, anyone know what it is?
Your intro hurt my ear when it come to distorted part.
Can anybody recommend some books about norsca?
Palace of the Plague Lord
Wulfrik
Knight of the Realm
The Claws of Chaos
The Heart of Chaos
The Blades of Chaos
Valkia
Sigvald
Talon of Khorne
Fall of Marienburg
@@kolsveinnskraevolding thank you :D
Does anyone know if GW is going to make some Norsca Miniatures??? I really would like it.
They killed the whole setting. And even before they did so, Norsca did not have minatures for decades.
The Marauders and Marauder Horsemen are Norscan models.
They still make them
Hope we get a kurgan fiction in WHTW: 3! Epic video btw!
You say that like there's a third one coming
@@dustinwilliams4902 There is
@Marko Milivojević Rust Damn way to call me out
I was the 12th comment also this is a great video
Vikings did not raid for the sake of getting food... Vikings were first and foremost farmers before anything having plentyfull of lifestock and grain to survive....
Their communities would not be able to exist. You need crops and organised agriculture supplemented by hunting. As Charles Darwin recognised 'those species which have the most empathy for raising their young produce the largest populations'. The survival of the fittest has been debunked and it is misinterpreted by too many. If it was true then humans would have destroyed themselves thousands of years ago. Therefore these norse could not exist or even have a diet which produced muscular warriors. You need social stability and a guarrenteed proper diet to be like that. They just could not be like that in reality 🤔
Survival of the fittest is definitely misinterpretted but not debunked. Taking care of ones young would quite easily fall under the fittest. Being the fittest isnt always about the strongest individuals but just as much about the species strengths and weaknesses as a collective. Even in the most survivable species certain genetic mutations can become major problems if passed down to a large portion of the population so biologically it can make a lot of sense to isolate certain defects and not allow them to be passed down. Only people view this in a moral sense
''reminiscent of the vikings of the real world'' by the gods, you americans still think Scandinavian was a frozen wasteland.. IT WAS not. let me give you the real version. We had so great lands that we were able to feed.That ment we became ''too many'' that is why many sailed out and finded new land and ''raid'' It's called Viking so it was a job really. Because many sailed out to form their own ''kingdom'' If you take a look on Englands east side. You will find a town that was Danish. It still carry the names.
Reminiscent doesnt mean "exactly like" get a dictionary, please.
Also you seem really offended by that. You foreigners need to get some thicker skin.
Britanny Helms yeah, reminiscent doesn’t mean that it’s exactly like, reminiscent just means that it resembles something or reminds you of something
we get it you can roll your r's gj
omg stop with that horrid intro man jesus chrust!
It only lasts 7 seconds
Keep the vids coming!! Great job master thickness