I'd never heard of Tom Tomson or the Group of Seven. I don't think I've heard of any Canadian artists, which is how publicity works, I suppose. I'm now slightly in love and need to go find out more. Thank you.
While I enjoyed the information about the gallery, I was watching for a delve into Tom Thompson. He was a side note. Please put more appropriate titles on the documentaries.
I get a Van Gogh-like vibe coming through THOMSON's work, as well as Varley. Thomson's painting, "Byng Inlet, Georgian Bay" is a stunning example of Impressionist painting.
And some practical information such as why my front door is hard to open sometimes and other times not. Yeah.. it was really freakin redundant and incoherent. Thatching that in it’s entirety thing was punishing.
@@annascott3542 Thing is, my door is just the opposite of, according to this doc, the norm: for some reason, it's hard as hell to open in the winter, but easy in the summer. I'm looking for an art documentary that will explain that! Any suggestions??
@@hilariousname6826 mine is the same except it’s not as predictable as that. One day I can’t open it and the next day it swings freely. I’ve literally broken off 3 different knobs trying to get it open and gone through prolonged periods of just not being able to use it at all bc it won’t budge and having to walk around my house to use the back door any time I want to leave or enter my house, which is a f****** total hassle, and pretty much the bane of my existence. And I can’t easily or readily do anything about it because my house is 100 years old and my doorframe/door is round on top and is not a standard size width or depth-wise, and the door in question was handmade, and therefore any replacement will have to be, and god only knows how much that costs now a day, so... I’m at my wits end. Don’t get me started! Ha wish I had some answers for you 😭
It looks like the film company that produced it left the research to the resident High School Intern. Not that any of the information was terribly incorrect ( although Tom was never a "Artistic Superstar" while he was alive. All that happened long after he was gone), but the whole thing seemed to be dumbed-down for an audience that has the attention span of an adolescent . They said when they dug up Tom's grave, the found the body of a "Native American" ? Why did they think he was American? It's too bad it was put together like it was. The people they were interviewing were all experts in their fields, which meant we could have learned so much more. Instead we had 52 minutes of very repetitive video that seemed to be aimed more at the audience that watches shows about Ancient Aliens, as opposed to people with a genuine interest in art. Frankly, by the time most Canadian kids finish High School, they know more about Tom Thomson & the Group of 7 than this video told us. The McMichael though is by far the nicest and most interesting gallery I have ever been to. If I lived closer, I would be there any free time I had. Spectacular Gallery, Crap Video.
This was quite the Click Bait, I ended watching a documentary about the McMichael Art Collection and Building, just short passages about Tom Thomson. Excuse me but this was disappointing. As great as the Collection and Museum is, this was very much in the line of gotcha you to click. At least I have my books about Tom.
@@annascott3542 read Roy Macgregor’s Norther Light, a good book on Tom Thomson, probably the best, for an insight on who Tom was. For his Art there is no short supply of books by Academia, some better than others. Good Luck.
The title is misleading -- you spent more time discussing the museum than you did Tom Thompson. I wish you had discussed his pigments and techniques in depth as that would have been noteworthy. Thank you.
Just CALL it a documentary about a nice rich couple's log cabin home, which has been turned into a museum. To house their collection. At some great expense. With modern methods and materials. Insulation. Dark glass. UV protection. High-tech lath. Art preservation. I am interested in a few of these subjects. I didn't think I was going to learn much about Tom Thompson and his art, beyond the repeated showing of a few of his paintings, old photos & newspaper clippings. I left the program two thirds in. I'll go look for him elsewhere. My time is valuable. To me.
I used to love cycling from our Etobicoke suburban home to Kleinburg to visit the gallery when I was a boy. Wonderful place, wonderful art, and a lovely memory. Like others, though, I found this a frustrating documentary which never could decide what it was really about. Pity.
Thankyou, very inspiring! About the buildings longevity, there needs to be a secondary roof running from the roof crown to about 2 feet up on the center of the roof side of chimney. So water isn't leaking through
This looked like it might be a good documentary - and it had good moments - but my God, it was ruined by all the tedious detail about the damn humidity and moisture, the temperature, the shrinking and expanding of the logs, the plaster, the bad insulation. It was mentioned 3 times early on and then returned to at boring length. Pity.
I'm a Canadian and I've watched many docs on Tom Thomson, and basically though they always mention his natural talent, being an expert outdoorsman and canoeist, all of which I have mad respect for - they very rarely if ever touch on the fact that he was a womanizer. On that basis alone, the murder theory makes perfect sense. Coshing him over the head like you would a fish, then entangling his legs in fishing line and drowning him is, to me, the work of at least one very angry spouse, not only getting revenge but also making a mockery of his expertise. And to echo many other commenters....make this doc about the struggling painter and the Group of Seven, not about rich people leaving behind a museum in the wilderness. Big misstep there.
My spelling of Mr Thomson's name, in my previous comment, came from the title of this weird mash-up. The video's been up for 3 days. You really should fix that.
I think these is the same group who did a video on an art heist that wasn’t really the focus at all. Very disappointing. I would love to see more of the art and a history of the artists and collectors They need to title them “ Details of Small Canadian Art Museums”
Enjoyed parts of it. Could have left out so much info on the building itself if you weren’t going to tell us it was already standing and was dug out the ground. That’s clear and evident from the pictures you’ve shown. Also, I’m pretty sure he was murdered.
Oh my goodness, this is cringe worthy. Algonquin Park is 45.83 N, 90 % of Canada's border is at 49 N. He was hardly going into Northern Canada. lol The "natural wilderness" yep, not to be confused with the unnatural wilderness. Spoiler alert... Mother Nature did it, in the park, with water.
But he did impressionism.. So that is a French influence.. I have seen the AGO gallery on the group of 7.. Excellent.. I think they should shut down that place and move the art..
Well take that money you make from charging people and buy a new building. Or put an insulated building around that one. I don't feel sorry for you or the art. You make plenty of money. Fix it. Hell, it isn't even pretty art.
Well, while I disagree with your condemnation, I don’t know how it is relevant or can be applied to this documentary. There was little to no art history in it. Rather it was predominantly made up of the building maintenance crew talking in depth about maddeningly boring building & climatic issues, and when they weren’t busy showcasing the janitor, there were snippets about art preservation discussing issues not related to the art history, but more building issues, the impact of the building conditions on a particular pieces. the rest was museum administrators, and tabloid journalism.
What disappoints me about these paintings depicting the wilderness is that there are no depictions of animal life - such an important part of any wilderness. No birds, bears, deer, or even fish!!!
Especially the omission of the people that have been living on the land for thousands of years. All part of the narrative to make the land seem free for the taking.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 I have to agree, though tactful verbiage is what it is. Thomson did paint geese in formation and moose exiting from a lake nocturnal painting. To most it is the landscape. I maybe mistaken but Tom did paint a days catch once. He should have been watching a Bateman doc, not this.
@@nikolasao Maybe he didn't like painting people? You cannot compel someone to paint something they don't want to paint from the dead just based on your own social justice theories. Not wise to make the most negative assumptions about the long since dead....for shame. Furthermore, the man was an artist and a lover of nature, perhaps if more at the time really deeply appreciated his work and the subject, the environment and the subsequent native peoples would have been left alone, but that's me speculating.
More waldemar plz
I'd never heard of Tom Tomson or the Group of Seven. I don't think I've heard of any Canadian artists, which is how publicity works, I suppose. I'm now slightly in love and need to go find out more. Thank you.
While I enjoyed the information about the gallery, I was watching for a delve into Tom Thompson. He was a side note. Please put more appropriate titles on the documentaries.
I get a Van Gogh-like vibe coming through THOMSON's work, as well as Varley.
Thomson's painting, "Byng Inlet, Georgian Bay" is a stunning example of Impressionist painting.
You get an impressionism feel to his work.. Not so much of a Van Gogh
I wasn’t familiar with these artists by name before I watched this, stunning works of art.
Too bad they talked about the cabin the entire video
@@virtualcircle285 I know right, after a point I started dreading the maintenance man’s appearances. Lol
@@annascott3542 hahaha, I get it. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter.
@@virtualcircle285 But ... what about the humidity? Does it change? That's all I wanted to know!
A good 20 minute documentary about the McMichael Collection and Tom Thomson - unfortunately it’s 55 minutes
and about 20 subjects on the go.
And some practical information such as why my front door is hard to open sometimes and other times not. Yeah.. it was really freakin redundant and incoherent. Thatching that in it’s entirety thing was punishing.
So true and The narrator ‘s tone is so off. What a pity…
@@annascott3542 Thing is, my door is just the opposite of, according to this doc, the norm: for some reason, it's hard as hell to open in the winter, but easy in the summer. I'm looking for an art documentary that will explain that! Any suggestions??
@@hilariousname6826 mine is the same except it’s not as predictable as that. One day I can’t open it and the next day it swings freely. I’ve literally broken off 3 different knobs trying to get it open and gone through prolonged periods of just not being able to use it at all bc it won’t budge and having to walk around my house to use the back door any time I want to leave or enter my house, which is a f****** total hassle, and pretty much the bane of my existence. And I can’t easily or readily do anything about it because my house is 100 years old and my doorframe/door is round on top and is not a standard size width or depth-wise, and the door in question was handmade, and therefore any replacement will have to be, and god only knows how much that costs now a day, so... I’m at my wits end. Don’t get me started! Ha wish I had some answers for you 😭
I was nt familiar with any of these artists whom i found extraordinary ,thank you for the discovery.
It looks like the film company that produced it left the research to the resident High School Intern. Not that any of the information was terribly incorrect ( although Tom was never a "Artistic Superstar" while he was alive. All that happened long after he was gone), but the whole thing seemed to be dumbed-down for an audience that has the attention span of an adolescent .
They said when they dug up Tom's grave, the found the body of a "Native American" ? Why did they think he was American?
It's too bad it was put together like it was. The people they were interviewing were all experts in their fields, which meant we could have learned so much more. Instead we had 52 minutes of very repetitive video that seemed to be aimed more at the audience that watches shows about Ancient Aliens, as opposed to people with a genuine interest in art.
Frankly, by the time most Canadian kids finish High School, they know more about Tom Thomson & the Group of 7 than this video told us.
The McMichael though is by far the nicest and most interesting gallery I have ever been to.
If I lived closer, I would be there any free time I had.
Spectacular Gallery,
Crap Video.
Well, to be fair, I would think it fairly obvious in this context that 'American' means, you know, 'North American'.
This was quite the Click Bait, I ended watching a documentary about the McMichael Art Collection and Building, just short passages about Tom Thomson. Excuse me but this was disappointing. As great as the Collection and Museum is, this was very much in the line of gotcha you to click. At least I have my books about Tom.
I know we never learned what the legend or myth was. A real cliffhanger.
@@annascott3542 read Roy Macgregor’s Norther Light, a good book on Tom Thomson, probably the best, for an insight on who Tom was. For his Art there is no short supply of books by Academia, some better than others. Good Luck.
It certainly was a chilling tale ....of the McMichael's heating and cooling systems. They didn't even spell Thomson's name correctly in the title.
Switch and bait anyone?
@@petemavus2948 lol RRRIGGGGHTTT, I was like how is this relevant???? I reached a point where I was like oh no, not the maintenance man again!!! Lmao
Thank you, guys.
The title is misleading -- you spent more time discussing the museum than you did Tom Thompson. I wish you had discussed his pigments and techniques in depth as that would have been noteworthy. Thank you.
Just CALL it a documentary about a nice rich couple's log cabin home, which has been turned into a museum. To house their collection. At some great expense. With modern methods and materials. Insulation. Dark glass. UV protection. High-tech lath. Art preservation. I am interested in a few of these subjects. I didn't think I was going to learn much about Tom Thompson and his art, beyond the repeated showing of a few of his paintings, old photos & newspaper clippings. I left the program two thirds in. I'll go look for him elsewhere. My time is valuable. To me.
I used to love cycling from our Etobicoke suburban home to Kleinburg to visit the gallery when I was a boy. Wonderful place, wonderful art, and a lovely memory.
Like others, though, I found this a frustrating documentary which never could decide what it was really about. Pity.
It's about the museum and not the contents.
Thankyou, very inspiring!
About the buildings longevity, there needs to be a secondary roof running from the roof crown to about 2 feet up on the center of the roof side of chimney. So water isn't leaking through
This looked like it might be a good documentary - and it had good moments - but my God, it was ruined by all the tedious detail about the damn humidity and moisture, the temperature, the shrinking and expanding of the logs, the plaster, the bad insulation. It was mentioned 3 times early on and then returned to at boring length. Pity.
click bait, this isnt an accurate title this is just an ad for the McMichael Art Collection and Building
I'm a Canadian and I've watched many docs on Tom Thomson, and basically though they always mention his natural talent, being an expert outdoorsman and canoeist, all of which I have mad respect for - they very rarely if ever touch on the fact that he was a womanizer. On that basis alone, the murder theory makes perfect sense. Coshing him over the head like you would a fish, then entangling his legs in fishing line and drowning him is, to me, the work of at least one very angry spouse, not only getting revenge but also making a mockery of his expertise.
And to echo many other commenters....make this doc about the struggling painter and the Group of Seven, not about rich people leaving behind a museum in the wilderness. Big misstep there.
Great paintings... the two of them had a good eye.
But this story smells to me like scam of Barnes foundation and art :D
Glad to hear these treasures are safe
And it's Thomson, not Thompson :)
My spelling of Mr Thomson's name, in my previous comment, came from the title of this weird mash-up. The video's been up for 3 days. You really should fix that.
well Tom Thomson came paddling past, I'm pretty sure it was him....
Like the video close enough I guess ;)
I think these is the same group who did a video on an art heist that wasn’t really the focus at all. Very disappointing.
I would love to see more of the art and a history of the artists and collectors
They need to title them “ Details of Small Canadian Art Museums”
Volume please
He is not the father of Canadian art. My family knew him very well and how/why he died.
Okay - do tell.
Title has inaccurate spelling of Thomson. LOL
Too many commercials couldn’t enjoy it
the background muzak is superfluous and spoils both the imagery and the comments
Tom who ? ok the father of english Canadian art.
Enjoyed parts of it. Could have left out so much info on the building itself if you weren’t going to tell us it was already standing and was dug out the ground. That’s clear and evident from the pictures you’ve shown.
Also, I’m pretty sure he was murdered.
Probably by those who coveted his work...
@@petemavus2948 The way he died was very plausible. Nothing mysterious about it.
@@petemavus2948 IIRC, it's more likely that, IF he was murdered, it was in a drunken fight over a woman.
He only painted for a few years before he was murdered.
The documentary tells you exactly how he died. Yet it’s mysterious!?
The documentary gives no reason to think Thompson was murdered.
Robert Henri please.
This is so boring and redundant I had to stop watching it at 31:30 after the 75k time they said Thom Thompson omg
Oh my goodness, this is cringe worthy.
Algonquin Park is 45.83 N, 90 % of Canada's border is at 49 N. He was hardly going into Northern Canada. lol
The "natural wilderness" yep, not to be confused with the unnatural wilderness.
Spoiler alert... Mother Nature did it, in the park, with water.
Definitely foul play involved
In the making of this documentary? I agree!
But he did impressionism.. So that is a French influence.. I have seen the AGO gallery on the group of 7.. Excellent.. I think they should shut down that place and move the art..
what a waste of a documentary.. Talking about all this stuff other than the artists themselves.
Group of seven are legend but they only represent a fraction of the talents of First Nations. Just my opinion.
Never heard about him.
Well take that money you make from charging people and buy a new building. Or put an insulated building around that one. I don't feel sorry for you or the art. You make plenty of money. Fix it. Hell, it isn't even pretty art.
Who edited this? Awful
Art historians are the worst.
Yeah! We demand a better source for our art history!
Well, while I disagree with your condemnation, I don’t know how it is relevant or can be applied to this documentary. There was little to no art history in it. Rather it was predominantly made up of the building maintenance crew talking in depth about maddeningly boring building & climatic issues, and when they weren’t busy showcasing the janitor, there were snippets about art preservation discussing issues not related to the art history, but more building issues, the impact of the building conditions on a particular pieces. the rest was museum administrators, and tabloid journalism.
If he was such a great man why didn't he fight beside his brothers?
I'd take a coward over a killer any day.
@@ggreen5943 oh not me. If someone is breaking into your home and attempts to assault your wife and children you need a killer, not a coward.
What disappoints me about these paintings depicting the wilderness is that there are no depictions of animal life - such an important part of any wilderness. No birds, bears, deer, or even fish!!!
So fucking what?
Especially the omission of the people that have been living on the land for thousands of years. All part of the narrative to make the land seem free for the taking.
They were LANDSCAPE artists for the most part.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 I have to agree, though tactful verbiage is what it is. Thomson did paint geese in formation and moose exiting from a lake nocturnal painting. To most it is the landscape. I maybe mistaken but Tom did paint a days catch once. He should have been watching a Bateman doc, not this.
@@nikolasao Maybe he didn't like painting people? You cannot compel someone to paint something they don't want to paint from the dead just based on your own social justice theories. Not wise to make the most negative assumptions about the long since dead....for shame. Furthermore, the man was an artist and a lover of nature, perhaps if more at the time really deeply appreciated his work and the subject, the environment and the subsequent native peoples would have been left alone, but that's me speculating.
third-rate impressionism... pass.
Well yes,no dainty ladies with parasols hobbeling through the fields.
I worry about looking after my Leslie h Peters 🫡🏴🇬🇧