Sunday Go Lessons: Playing on the 9 x 9 Board

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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    Go can be rough for beginners, so it's usually best to start off on a 9x9 board. What sorts of strategies and tactics do Go players use? In this video, I aim to shed some light on this question.
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  • @Tyler.Burleson
    @Tyler.Burleson 6 років тому +274

    see this is the kind of stuff I look for but can never find. Not a lot of videos for beginners have that "what was your thought process" vs "what your thought process should be" They basically go from "here is the bare minimum of how to play the game" straight to "here just watch us play and we won't really explain anything about why we are making the moves" A shame the video is 4 years old we could use a lot more like this

    • @Hamlo76
      @Hamlo76 5 років тому +15

      I agree. This is actually the best video of actually teaching someone to play rather than "those are the rules, now you can play"

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops 4 роки тому +6

      ua-cam.com/channels/Mp-4uv1jfVa0dXkZv3qQYA.html I like this channel a lot too. Most videos are by a 1-dan woman and she really helped me advance my understanding of the game. It takes a little bit to understand all the jargon. The guy in this video uses a couple of them too, like "retreat", "cut", "atari". It's a wonderfully complex game that's all about balance. Not to be too greedy, not to be too passive. It's also a game about precognition and tempo. The same stones on the table can be a vastly different situation depending on whose turn it is. It's important to keep an eye on all the risks. And the best part, the early game is about staking claims, the mid game is about seeking "eyespace" for your groups and the end-game is to solidify your positions.

    • @RM-qo1rl
      @RM-qo1rl 4 роки тому +3

      @@NLTops thank you so much for this resource NLTops, I really do appreciate it

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops 4 роки тому +1

      @@RM-qo1rl I'm glad you found it useful ^_^

    • @paysonfox88
      @paysonfox88 4 роки тому +1

      Johnathan Hop is very good at teaching. I also teach people similar style. When a person is 7 kyu to 6Kyu I begin teaching the 5 "killing shapes." for life and death. When you get past beginner 20K level, I suggest Nick SIbicky's old lectures from 2012-15 on his channel. He taught an actual AGA sponsored DDK class in Seattle.
      For players who are getting into the single digit kyu level and up to the Dan level, I would suggest the king of go-content creators "Dwyrin" AKA "Battsgo"
      Dwyrin at max effort has actually beaten a couple of professionals on Netmarble, maintained 7-8D on Tygem when not streaming, and occassionally makes it to 7D on Foxy while streaming. But more than his level, he teaches in lessons for every level from SDK to high dan.

  • @Hamlo76
    @Hamlo76 5 років тому +138

    Wow. Finally a video explaining how to actually play not just the rules. I needed this. Thank you!

  • @Frostbite1003
    @Frostbite1003 9 років тому +314

    For some reason I want to eat those stones...

    • @ronycb7168
      @ronycb7168 8 років тому +10

      +Frostbite1003 they look like gems, I wonder if they taste like gems too

    • @owenvenes
      @owenvenes 6 років тому +24

      Me and my friends used to play with Minstrals, which are kinda like MnMs but black and white and quite a bit bigger (not sure if you guys have them in the states). Anyway we would eat the other players stones when we captured them, it was great fun but it made us play really aggressively!

    • @johkonut
      @johkonut 6 років тому +6

      Me too! They look like Mentos

    • @tranglomango
      @tranglomango 4 роки тому +3

      They're just reaaaly hard mentos

    • @tranglomango
      @tranglomango 4 роки тому +1

      @@LambareNg why?

  • @DweebsUnited
    @DweebsUnited 8 років тому +359

    This was a surprisingly good beginners tactic intro.

    • @draxwar3
      @draxwar3 8 років тому +4

      Tactic ? I didn't see any tactics here thats all general strategy

    • @DweebsUnited
      @DweebsUnited 8 років тому +23

      You say potato, I say no thanks I'll have a salad.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 7 років тому +4

      draxwar3 There was both strategy and tactics instruction in this video.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 4 роки тому

      @Wizzykin Go is extremely abstract for sure.

    • @nathanharvey8570
      @nathanharvey8570 4 роки тому +4

      @Wizzykin If there's no way to save pieces at the end of the game, they automatically get captured. Since points are also based on empty territory, you don't always want to take up space if your opponent is doomed. Plus, if you know you can counter whatever move your opponent makes, you can better use your turns focusing on other parts of the board.

  • @johnnychan6755
    @johnnychan6755 8 років тому +58

    I love the way you make us think about all the "what ifs" scenarios - really helps understanding / visualising patterns - thank you!!!

  • @JigonK
    @JigonK 9 років тому +93

    need more video like this. Really helpful for me to learn

    • @sundaygolessons
      @sundaygolessons  9 років тому +21

      JigonK Definitely will work on making more! Thanks for the support!

  • @Dave451996
    @Dave451996 9 років тому +116

    An extremely interresting game, more people should know about it´s existence.

    • @Dave451996
      @Dave451996 8 років тому +21

      Jesse Carr In East Asia surely, I don´t think there are many in the "west", thats what I meant.

    • @taliesine.8343
      @taliesine.8343 7 років тому +4

      The Hunt for Red June
      I am 15 years old. My dad thought me how to play go. I was never rly into it. But lately I am enjoying it to quite an extend. I even introduced 2 of my friends to go and they like it a lot. We play it every day through the "Tabletop simulator".
      Great game

    • @Taschenschieber
      @Taschenschieber 7 років тому +1

      TableTop Simulator is nice but there are some online go sites like Online-Go.com where you'll find many players directly in your browser, with dedicated tools for learning and analyzing. Maybe you'll want to give them a try.

    • @taliesine.8343
      @taliesine.8343 7 років тому

      Taschi ye, i play with my dad on kgs servers, but with my friends i play on tabletop simulater, because you can do other things as well and it looks nice

    • @ardalla535
      @ardalla535 5 років тому

      I remember as a kid when I first saw the game. It was a magazine ad for Camel cigarettes. Found it www.pinterest.com/pin/34832597090178539/?autologin=true Look at that board. The Camel guy is playing white and he's kicking the Asian guy's ass. That's not a realistic game.

  • @Strategiusz
    @Strategiusz 9 років тому +212

    so many mentos

    • @LTE18
      @LTE18 8 років тому +14

      +Strategiusz spilling diet coke would ruined the game

    • @xrxt0
      @xrxt0 7 років тому +2

      Probably the best comment I've seen in a while

    • @fododude
      @fododude 7 років тому +8

      I tried so hard to find black Mentos.

    • @irun_mon
      @irun_mon 7 років тому +7

      you can get black mentos from the nearest hood

    • @rifaarsh
      @rifaarsh 7 років тому

      Use menthos(white) and Minstrels (black).

  • @Sasser2015
    @Sasser2015 Рік тому +10

    After learning the basic rules (the stage I'm at), it's so enlightening to listen to someone who knows what they're doing logically think through each move/position in the game. I feel like I got a lot out of this, thanks.

  • @harukozgoalz3566
    @harukozgoalz3566 4 роки тому +15

    For me I think chess is way to overrated, I was more interested in GO.

    • @KiraTheoimpa
      @KiraTheoimpa 3 роки тому +2

      Hmmm you are making some interesting points there 🤔

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Рік тому

      @@KiraTheoimpa lol

    • @angadpatel103
      @angadpatel103 Рік тому

      I am chess player and now trying go still actually go is harder than chess but chess is bit more confusing

  • @gunslingerc208
    @gunslingerc208 3 роки тому +12

    I know this is almost 7 years old, but please make more like it!

  • @burke3gd
    @burke3gd 5 років тому +20

    This is just perfect for a beginner. I wish someone would do chess videos in the same format...

  • @NLTops
    @NLTops 4 роки тому +17

    18+7=27? Black has 25.

  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly 4 роки тому +17

    19:04 that's what I said to her

  • @benjamincordes207
    @benjamincordes207 8 років тому +10

    Wow this was really helpful, perhaps the best beginners go video I've seen. I loved the detailed explanations of different what if scenarios. Thank you so much.

  • @nielsdaemen
    @nielsdaemen Рік тому +5

    This game is so amazing, the person who first thought of this thousands of years ago was a genius

  • @ludwigstumpp
    @ludwigstumpp 4 роки тому +2

    What counting method are they using? Don't they also need to add the prisoners if they only count territory?

  • @chicagocgf773
    @chicagocgf773 5 років тому +7

    just a third of the way through, but I feel like I'm learning so much more than i have from playing the CPU or watching other games. Thank you. u r a great teacher!!!

  • @roflol100
    @roflol100 4 роки тому +2

    Is it viable option to go behinde white lines in this instance, for example C3?

  • @Kevintj
    @Kevintj 9 років тому +59

    this 9x9 game is very good to watch for beginners!

    • @JoaoCoelho-yw8xw
      @JoaoCoelho-yw8xw 7 років тому +1

      Akenaseryan i

    • @zissler1
      @zissler1 5 років тому +5

      I think even intermediate players need to review the fundamentals.

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      @love-yh8ki 3 роки тому

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  • @Yourmomma568
    @Yourmomma568 4 роки тому +6

    props to this dude for trying to learn the hardest game wver without a handicap.

    • @BrazilianImperialist
      @BrazilianImperialist 2 роки тому

      E-games are much harder

    • @Yourmomma568
      @Yourmomma568 2 роки тому +2

      @@BrazilianImperialist disagree. my 5 year old has gotten kills on fps. the skill gap between a low level player and a beginner in weiqi is that the begginer has almost 0 chance of ever getting a win.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Рік тому

      @@Yourmomma568 true

  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly 4 роки тому +5

    Damn, this was the first video that actually taught me the thought process of playing Go instead of just teaching the bare bone rules.

    • @paysonfox88
      @paysonfox88 4 роки тому

      See "Dwyrin" on youtube . He teaches at higher levels, but puts out content for all. Search his videos on DDK...that's for beginners. He also streams Go 3 days a week on twitch at "Battsgo"
      I've been a member of what we call "the best Go club on the internet" for a few years now. It's worth watching when he goes into pro game reviews and real board lecturing.
      For strict beginner play, see NIck SIbicky's old content here on youtube. You want the first 80-100 videos for the basics. For their levels, Dwyrin is at least an AGA 6.5 Dan. He's approximately the same skill level as XHU98 and that guy is an AGA 7 Dan (top amateur).
      Nick is more like a 4 Dan, but his teaching skills are way better than Dwyrin or XHU due to him being a college professor of music.

  • @rike911
    @rike911 10 років тому +5

    Hello,
    I am a totally beginner and I try to learn go from the internet and this video was pretty helpful. Thank you! Going for the second one and hoping for more : )

    • @yithril1
      @yithril1 9 років тому +1

      rike911 There are plenty more, just click on my channel and you'll see more.

  • @mabus4910
    @mabus4910 4 роки тому +1

    Still can't win a single game. This is the most frustrationg game I ever played. I have never experience so much frustration with a game than with go.

    • @Dandunu
      @Dandunu 4 роки тому +1

      Fancy a game? 😂

  • @AlexLoranger
    @AlexLoranger 6 років тому +3

    This helped me a lot. Seeing things I've never seen before about the thought process of a game. I have spent the past twenty years of my life wanting to play Go but not knowing how to approach it. I have tried playing games but everything just seems so random. I feel like this "fence" idea and "cutting" is the key I need to start making some real progress and can one day call myself a "beginner." xD

  • @deanbrown2542
    @deanbrown2542 8 років тому +4

    Excellent instructive video for beginners - thank you so much.

  • @jvemPiRe14
    @jvemPiRe14 7 років тому +4

    *james bond music plays randomly* LETS GOOOO

  • @samuelquinones406
    @samuelquinones406 8 років тому +8

    I still do not understand how to tell when a game is over and when we are to count territory. Could you elaborate?

    • @sadhu7191
      @sadhu7191 7 років тому +1

      Samuel Quinones when ever u both quit, resign game

    • @Taschenschieber
      @Taschenschieber 7 років тому +4

      The game ends when both players pass directly after one another, and then you agree which stones or groups are "dead". If you can't agree, you continue playing. Remove the stones which you agreed are dead, and then count terriroty.

    • @jaimemarrero3982
      @jaimemarrero3982 7 років тому +1

      The game is over when both players agree they can't make more points. That moment is when any move you play either fills a point of your territory that doesn't protect a weak group, or fills a point in the opponent's territory and can't make life.

  • @Frogfish999
    @Frogfish999 4 роки тому +2

    This is an amazing video for beginners like myself. I love how you intentionally make mistakes and ask the other player to punish

  • @aminose15
    @aminose15 Рік тому +1

    finally, a Go lesson that I can understand.

  • @PhoenixRiseinFlame
    @PhoenixRiseinFlame 3 роки тому +2

    This is probably the best intro on tactics I’ve found. Thank you for the help!

  • @gabrieldincao5749
    @gabrieldincao5749 3 роки тому +1

    This guys mistakes are the most instructive, it almost seemed like he was part of the lesson

  • @mrosman2394
    @mrosman2394 3 роки тому +2

    this is my first time playing this game and im kinda happy seeing a tutorial explaining

  • @summersancheztattoo
    @summersancheztattoo Рік тому +1

    Thank you SO much for this video. I've been searching everywhere for a video like this that explains every move start to finish. You are an amazing teacher!

  • @nicholasprothero3629
    @nicholasprothero3629 8 років тому +2

    I really enjoyed this video. I learned a lot. I am still at the lose and learn stage!

  • @NIMPAK1
    @NIMPAK1 11 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how good the guy is now.

  • @logan32086
    @logan32086 4 роки тому +2

    I have just learned more about the opening in this video than the dozen others that I've watched on the subject.

    • @sundaygolessons
      @sundaygolessons  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Glad it was informative. If you liked it, head over to www.sundaygolessons.com. There's plenty more!

  • @thatchessguy7072
    @thatchessguy7072 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve never learned go strategy, but I’ve gotten to about 1800 on LiChess. Go seemed like a much slower game to me at first but I realize now that is far from true. Speed and solid play is important in both games.

  • @Yourmomma568
    @Yourmomma568 4 роки тому +1

    also, 3 spaces is defensible at 4:45. if black had made a large knights move at b5 then hed be in a defensiblt position. though c5 would be better imo.

  • @martinwood744
    @martinwood744 5 років тому +1

    Jonathan, "So, d'you wanna play again next Sunday?". Alex, "Well I mean I'd love to of course, but I've just remembered I've got an urgent appointment in Outer Mongolia!".

  • @wingsuitjames
    @wingsuitjames 6 років тому +1

    I know this is old but what containers are those stones in? They look great for travel.

  • @richardmills5326
    @richardmills5326 7 років тому +1

    hey I was wondering if you could give me some tips on when i shoulder start playing on a 13 x 13 board and I tried to start but I am having a lot of trouble

  • @imsamposener
    @imsamposener 3 роки тому +1

    Great teacher shame about the student

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu 2 дні тому

    It's a weird thing about learning go. You look at the board, nothing makes sense, you put a stone down somewhere, then your opponent responds and suddenly you're like "omg, it all makes sense now, why did I put a stone there?"

  • @joshuagalvanvo3613
    @joshuagalvanvo3613 7 років тому +4

    what go set is this?

  • @DonOctave
    @DonOctave 3 роки тому +1

    That was really useful. It was very helpful to go through a whole game and explaining strategy. The books and web sites teach tactics, but figuring out where to move with lots of empty space is a mystery.

  • @blackman7186
    @blackman7186 Рік тому

    See how both players place the stones differently. One is very professional and the other is kinds amateurish

  • @judithcorstjens2650
    @judithcorstjens2650 5 років тому +1

    Very good intro. I think you should explain why you can see the game is over. To a complete beginner like me it looks like there are still areas of territory to play for.

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc 5 років тому

      the game is over when neither player can find a move that will help them. if both players "pass" then its time to count the score. if both players can't agree on the score, then they keep playing until they're certain.

  • @matthewsmith3649
    @matthewsmith3649 8 років тому +1

    This video was really awesome. There are so few beginners videos on youtube that are nice and simple like this one.

  • @ErikCartman
    @ErikCartman 4 роки тому +1

    thank you so much you are a great teacher. serious to god i was searching exactly for this kind of explanation. what we want to achieve. how we do it ecc. ecc.

  • @ChrisBandyJazz
    @ChrisBandyJazz 4 роки тому

    Why didn't they count stones as points too? Is that just because they played the same number of stones?
    And how does 18+7=27?

    • @Iemand213
      @Iemand213 4 роки тому +1

      That's because stones are only counted in the Chinese rules, but not in the Japanese rules and Japanese rules are more prevalent in the West. They also use the Japanese rules here.

    • @ChrisBandyJazz
      @ChrisBandyJazz 4 роки тому

      @@Iemand213 Thank you! I found that after searching around a little. I appreciate your reply.
      I think I understand Japanese rules. It seems like they generally come out the same as Chinese, except for seki. In Chinese, you get points for your stones and eyes in seki. Whereas in Japanese you don't. So turning a losing ko into seki is more rewarding in Chinese. Is that correct?

  • @CarlosRoigBCN
    @CarlosRoigBCN 8 років тому +1

    I love those stones! Look awesome. And by the way, please, someone teach that guy how to take and place properly the stones with point and middle fingers!!

  • @dr.s.p.
    @dr.s.p. 10 місяців тому +1

    Although a good learning presentation, it should be remembered that playing with your stones and rustling them at any time is counted as extremely rude and disrespectful. It’s not a game of poker and ruffling chips!

  • @HYEOL
    @HYEOL 8 років тому +1

    When he places Black in B2 i would have done the A2.
    Any opinion whats actually better?

  • @thuyvo6221
    @thuyvo6221 6 років тому +1

    Thank you! This actually make more sense as to how to start playing is to play! General strategy makes sense when it is put into practice. (I could not come through with reading and watching rules). Also having two persons interacting stimulates beginners game exceptionally.

  • @Noyoustupidfuck
    @Noyoustupidfuck 8 років тому +15

    Im very interested in this game, for a very strange reason. The reason is I dont understand it very well yet, even after watching a few videos the weakest cpu is still beating me easily!! I think it has to do with vision, and I would love to adapt and change my vision to "see go", and this video is helping me lots so far!! Thank you!

    • @kenstevens7343
      @kenstevens7343 8 років тому +1

      Once you get on the 19x19 board it really gets fun 😊

    • @Noyoustupidfuck
      @Noyoustupidfuck 8 років тому

      I'm excited to try!

    • @stonecat676
      @stonecat676 7 років тому +2

      Tbandjellyfish Yes. I get the same feeling. I'm intrigued yet mad at the same time.

    • @KCSunbeam-pi9bq
      @KCSunbeam-pi9bq 7 років тому +1

      The world's worst Go player here! Yet I'm an excellent chess and Shogi player. I'm disgusted, but since it's one of the greatest games and the world's oldest game I'm not giving up.

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc 5 років тому +1

      this is the same reason i got interested: i couldn't wrap my head around the strategies, and couldn't beat the easiest CPU even once for the longest time, meanwhile I could beat the easy chess bots knowing practically nothing. when i can't understand something i interpret it as a potentially critical defect in my characters, so now I strive to understand this game and what I'm missing.

  • @illustriouscacti
    @illustriouscacti 9 днів тому

    I really appreciate this video because the pace is fitting for a beginner like myself and you take the time to explain basic concepts. Would love to see more content like this!

  • @MrJaccTrippa
    @MrJaccTrippa 3 роки тому

    I'm in Coldwater. Are you willing to do some weekend in-person classes for cold hard cash? $$$ lol

  • @mesplin3
    @mesplin3 9 років тому +3

    Invade at the 3x3! Sorry I will watch the rest now

    • @yithril1
      @yithril1 9 років тому

      Michael Esplin Always invade the 3,3.

  • @pokerchannel6991
    @pokerchannel6991 3 роки тому +1

    I just beat alpha go.

  • @TertiumComparationis
    @TertiumComparationis 4 роки тому +1

    Great introductory video for showing territory management and cutting techniques and the such. I just started learning Go ~2 weeks ago and have been playing a lot on 9x9 (on OGS) and most tutorials/'how to play' guides are focused around the full size board, not many were on 9x9 size and this video (and the follow up one) have been really helpful.

    • @sundaygolessons
      @sundaygolessons  4 роки тому +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video! If you liked it, check out www.sundaygolessons.com. There's more where that came from.

    • @TertiumComparationis
      @TertiumComparationis 4 роки тому

      @@sundaygolessons Cheers! I have opened up that site in another tab and bookmarked it, and will check it out soon :). Also will watch some more of the videos on this channel first, too. As mentioned in the ending of this vid, for those who are under

  • @Valdemore4
    @Valdemore4 3 роки тому

    Why they finished the game at 21:50? Wasn't possible for black to get some extra points beyond the white frontier?

  • @MrJesuispierre
    @MrJesuispierre 7 місяців тому

    Thanks, my first instructional game, but it's on an 8x8 board, I thought there were only 9, 13 and 19!

  • @y1ink
    @y1ink 4 роки тому +2

    15:18 James Bond music kicks in

  • @Yourmomma568
    @Yourmomma568 4 роки тому

    foolish human. at 3:50 you should push instead of guarding cut points. a cut made on your atari would mean you have turn advantage on your liberties there, guaranteeing your victory. but in all seriousness i wish i had a friend who was willing to teach me about the game.

  • @OKOKOKOKOKOKOK-zn2fy
    @OKOKOKOKOKOKOK-zn2fy 7 місяців тому

    Is it good ettiquite to constantly stir the stones in your container?
    Is that a pro move to slowly drive your opponent insane while they are trying to think of their next move?

  • @ChillGamerBlue
    @ChillGamerBlue 7 років тому +2

    James Bond at 15:22

  • @Twas-RightHere
    @Twas-RightHere 4 роки тому

    But why can't black try to make life in the bottom left corner? I just started playing go and had someone do that to me, they got two eyes and I couldn't get rid of it.

  • @DerNesor
    @DerNesor 2 роки тому

    81 intersections, 12 stones on the board: "Yeah so this basically the end of the game"
    .... wait what

  • @cxlosdc333
    @cxlosdc333 9 років тому +2

    Where can I get the same board and stones?

    • @jessstuart7495
      @jessstuart7495 3 роки тому

      Yellow Mountain Imports has good equipment.

  • @rishusingh428
    @rishusingh428 9 місяців тому

    If this game was played with chocolate gems than winning could've made more sense 😂

  • @cjborcuk
    @cjborcuk 4 роки тому

    Stupid beginner question. Why wouldn't they try to fight for territory in the end, at the top right and bottom left corner?

  • @88Nikoli
    @88Nikoli 7 років тому +4

    I thought black had 25 not 27 ? .??

    • @ChillGamerBlue
      @ChillGamerBlue 7 років тому

      88Nikoli Black does.

    • @Drcalatayud
      @Drcalatayud 6 років тому

      Yea 25 for black, he counted wrong

    • @michaelfisher4319
      @michaelfisher4319 4 роки тому

      I was looking for this comment to make sure i hadn't gone crazy lol

  • @fernandopaulino2055
    @fernandopaulino2055 2 роки тому +1

    11:19 pause

  • @oneonebravo11B
    @oneonebravo11B 6 років тому +1

    Man, I learned a ton from this. Thank you.

  • @louisparry-mills9132
    @louisparry-mills9132 6 місяців тому

    fantastically helpful video for consolidating some basics

  • @DocHollidayGames
    @DocHollidayGames 7 років тому +4

    Black had 25 at the end, not 27. I recommend adding an annotation so beginners don't get confused. Otherwise, great video!

  • @Diabolik771
    @Diabolik771 6 років тому

    I tried some 9x9 games online vs AI and every game was like You lost by 28 pts! I'm like what? What the hell? I don't understand how I get blown out when the game looks balanced and we both pass.

  • @ThrashAbaddon
    @ThrashAbaddon 8 років тому +1

    thanks for making the video, it is informative :D

  • @jameshopkins3541
    @jameshopkins3541 4 роки тому

    EXISTE ALGUNA ESTRATEGIA PARA GANAR ESTE ESTUPIDO Y ABURRIDOTE JUEGUILLO?

  • @yosephs6503
    @yosephs6503 7 років тому +1

    now i can face AI lv3 in 9x9 lol

  • @nabihatahsin4168
    @nabihatahsin4168 3 роки тому +1

    those things look like chocho gems😋

  • @dannygjk
    @dannygjk 4 роки тому +2

    9 board is too big for me to start I need 5 board XD

    • @infinitasalo472
      @infinitasalo472 4 роки тому +1

      On OGS (an online Go site I use) they have 2x2 Go lmao

    • @yuantao5304
      @yuantao5304 4 роки тому

      Dan Kelly ,there is no 5 times 5 board

  • @brianmarrero5147
    @brianmarrero5147 7 років тому +1

    I am an expert chess player (rated around 2000-2199 ELO points), and I like strategy games. I wanted to learn how to play Go, so I literally learned the rules yesterday. But looking at this game now, there is a question that pops up in my head: If apparently black did nothing wrong, why did they lose the game? I mean Iknow obviously because at the end white had more territory, but when did black go wrong? Was it on the second move when he placed those 2 stones together allowing white to faster expand?
    I would also like to know if once the territotories are determined, what happens if I place a stone on my opponet's territory? Is this stone doomed from the moment I placed it? Please can somebody explain this to me!

    • @davidfoley8546
      @davidfoley8546 7 років тому +2

      Black's third move was the particularly bad one. He moved his border backwards and never made forward progress again.

    • @blake3474
      @blake3474 6 років тому

      @@davidfoley8546 so you're saying he was screwed as soon as he placed that third piece down? There was absolutely nothing he could do to win? I mean ya if black did everything right then I guess that would mean he was doomed from the beginning (like his 3rd move in) But that just can't be the case. Guarantee black could have won after making that third move. I mean I guess white could have placed differently and then therefore cause black to make a different move which would cause a completely different game to happen than the one we just saw. Hm idk it's a bit complicated. Because you could make a move that's right playing against one player (such as a beginner) but that move could be wrong playing against someone who is a higher skill level. So it's really about making moves that'll beat your opponent. To say a move is right or wrong in any circumstance is a bit silly because it all depends on how the game is being played. Ah fuck haha I don't even know what I'm saying anymore

    • @davidfoley8546
      @davidfoley8546 6 років тому +3

      Black was at a large disadvantage after that move. He would have had to play much better than white from there in order to win.

    • @erismaturebarbillons7849
      @erismaturebarbillons7849 5 років тому +1

      @@blake3474 In any game (without randomness), one of the players is "screwed" before the game even starts, assuming the other one plays perfectly. Problem is, in Go or Chess, or most board games, there are way too many possibilities, and nobody knows how to play perfectly.
      That said, in this particular game, no human player would consider black's position here after the first few moves to be completely hopeless. Sure, he's in a rather bad position (in my opinion black's second move was particularly bad), but there's stuff that might be done.
      - After the 3rd move (6:20), black's only hope would be to invade the bottom of the board: maybe play E2 (middle of the second line), then depending whether white blocks from the left or from the right, black can extend to the opposite side and probably live.
      - Even much later, at 19:02, I think white's move is a mistake. Black can try to invade the 3-3 point (C3) and live in the bottom left. This is not guaranteed to work, but that could turn the game around. Instead, white should have played more safely (by playing at C3 himself for example). After that, I would actually say that black is screwed, he lost his chance to invade.
      That's a great video, it's telling a story, every move makes sense and is explained. But don't worry, many different stories could have been told, with different outcomes!

  • @david203
    @david203 7 років тому

    These are all "nice" or "reasonable" moves, the same as if played on a regular 19x19 board. The charm of 9x9 games is that all sorts of strange moves are possible because of the closeness of the edges of the board. If one player is stronger than the other, the weaker player may not be able to "look ahead" to the same extent, so these strange or "trick" moves end up working more often than not for the stronger player. If the players are both strong, then these move sequences tend to be known by both players, so they lose their special 9x9 "strangeness".
    Learning by playing 9x9 games tunes the ability to see local move sequences on the 19x19 board. But playing 19x19 games tunes the ability to see more global sequences, such as loose frameworks of stones of the same color ("moyos") that sketch out large territorial areas. Learning when to invade and when to reduce the size of moyos is close to impossible on a 9x9 board.
    So it can be useful for many players to play both 9x9 and 19x19 games. Also, it is usually helpful to replay a game by yourself ("analyze the game") after you have won or lost. During the replay, you can try out different ways to achieve goals such as building territory or capturing ("killing") an opponent group of stones. You can learn much more by yourself, replaying a game, than you learned by playing the original game.

  • @rajanalexander4949
    @rajanalexander4949 7 місяців тому

    This is fantastic. It fills a gap between learning the rules and making embarrassing blunders. Sharp commentary, and a sporting attitude on the part of the more novice player. Thank you!

  • @emmanuelamiot
    @emmanuelamiot 4 роки тому

    Excellently explained. Congrats! Quite useful for clarify beginners' muddled brains :)

  • @loupax
    @loupax Рік тому

    These stones look like they are out of sugar😅

  • @christianfntn
    @christianfntn 2 роки тому

    Good game, learned alot, but I only play against computer and even on the easiest difficulty, AI is super agressive and do not care about territories, it just blocks me and play right beside each of my stone which is super annoying.

  • @jaimemarrero3982
    @jaimemarrero3982 7 років тому

    I know this game is a bit old now, 3 years and all, and the black player was just starting to learn to play, but I'd still think it would be valuable to comment on the game, for posterity and all. Regardless of all rookie moves black did, white ended the game with what I would think is a vulnerability. I admit I am not the best at reading, but I think black could have threatened to cut the one remaining cutting point of white on the 3-3 point (bottom left from the camera perspective), with a threat to either cut the left half of white or make life. How would you have responded to a move like that?

  • @kennewts9902
    @kennewts9902 2 роки тому

    I'm a beginner to I am self taught with only the booklet that came with the game and what I could find on UA-cam as my guild I learned on the 19 by 19 board I play fairly well depending on who I'm playing against some people are better then others for some add reason I always lose on the nine by nine board no matter who I play I played once on the 13 by 13 board what I found is each board has a different strategy what works on the 19 by 19 board is useless on the nine by nine board but as for me I found that the smaller board messes with my big picture game I still like playing

  • @-the-light
    @-the-light Рік тому

    This is soooo helpful! I'm really struggling and this is great. Just when I think I understand a little, I play and realize I don't, lol. Thank you!

  • @mathieudreano3842
    @mathieudreano3842 2 роки тому

    Just wanted to let you know that this is the video that had me wanted to learn to play go. 3 years ago.
    Thanks you for introducing me to this game, and thank you for all your video. Amazing material and an excellent teacher ! We can easily feel your love to share.
    Merci !

  • @Taipou
    @Taipou 4 роки тому

    I'm a 10 kyu player (weak, but not a beginner) and even I am loving this video, because of how well the basic concepts are laid out. The rules of go are pretty easy to teach someone, but it's all that comes after which makes the game hard (and fun!) to play and teach. Anyone interested in spreading go should look at this video to get some ideas about how to teach it :D

  • @Vizzeable
    @Vizzeable 7 років тому

    ehm you actually cheated on move 3 to 4? or am i nuts? 12:44 i know its only for learning purpose XD
    otherwise nice vid was looking newly at the whole game today and bringing in the lining concept (seeing the whole board in occupied sections like coloring your occupied fields) enlightend me to grasp it to understand "normal" games for real
    the jumping from one territory to another while fights werent realy over always went over my head but now they make sense

  • @SrikanthMadduri
    @SrikanthMadduri 3 роки тому

    This was a great video. Could you please point me to a good Go board like the one you have? I bought something off of Amazon but it is horrible. Thank you.

  • @AndrewBlechinger
    @AndrewBlechinger 7 років тому

    Klutz Press ran a 15 board game book once. It included a 9x9 go board and even Shogi. This is really cool. I didn't know 9x9 was the standard beginner landscape.

  • @MaxGamer64
    @MaxGamer64 8 років тому

    Anyone know what stones they are using? I know those are ing bowls but the stones sound like ceramic and ing are plastic. Maybe ing stones are really hard plastic that makes them sound like that though? Thanks if anyone knows.

  • @robertomartin59
    @robertomartin59 3 роки тому

    What a great tutorial. I am just getting into this very deceptively simple game. My mind is constantly blown by the depths of Go....

  • @benvella1728
    @benvella1728 2 роки тому

    Well now this is what I Was looking for. Helped click a lot of information in regarding living and dead groups, why we both with two eyes, etc