When New York looked like Ancient Rome
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
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This video explores how Roman architecture and city planning shaped Manhattan.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:34 Streets of Manhattan
1:36 the Croton aqueduct
2:05 City Beautiful Neoclassicism
3:29 Mckim, Mead, and White
4:25 Classical infrastructure
5:11 Monuments
5:40 The anxiety of influence
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I can't believe a building such as Penn Station was torn down.
Yeah that generation was crazy
I agree. My Dad thought it was even more beautiful than Grand Central Station
They did the same to Euston Station in London. Then, built that vile concrete box. All that's left is an entrance arch.
REBUILD PENN
Those people were poisoned by lead in the atmosphere from burning leaded gas and newsprint.
The demolition of the original Penn Station is insanity.
They hate our culture.
Must have been high tech. The destroyers from the 1800's don't want us asking questions.
@@peanut422hbDoes this has to do with Tartaria or the Mud Flood?
@@thedarkenigma3834 I don't know exactly, but something is very wrong. When limestone and marble are destroyed 50 years after building according to their script . Go back and look at this behemoth of a building. .
@peanut422hb These buildings were already here. New York is an ancient city
When New York was truly at its peak. Maybe not in size but in splendor, relevance, and innovation.
Absolutely! Truly awesome!🗽
In my opinion NYC was at its peak from the 1960s to the 2000s
All of these buildings were here before from a previous civilization they're in every city even little towns think about it they all have buildings that we can't build today and spent every war destroying evidence
During that 1960s to 1980s period so much went under the wrecking ball. Crime and decay rampant, depopulation, bankruptcy. It was rock bottom. It recovered some before 9/11, but it was never the same. Sort of like how Constantinople recovered after the Justinianic plague, but never with quite the same energy. At least that's kind of how I see it. @@robroy6374
@@robroy6374 Never been to the US but when I think about a US state in their peak from 1960's and onward, I think mainly of California. When I think of NewYork, I always picture the city imagery from 1980's or 2010's imagery.
The US literally had an open canvas to make our country beautiful with elegant architecture and instead we defaulted to shit.
All stolen. Yes, that's correct. These were here.
@@craigr6842ignorant comment every civilization in human history has used ideas and concepts from other civilizations to build architecture.
Yeah cause the J’s seized control via the Federal Reserve the same time we started making money, hijacking’s our ability to be something more than we are today.
@@craigr6842the phone you types this brainrot from is also stolen
Go back to Korea for that comment
My dad took me to NYC in 1964 at age 6. While there, he took to a huge hole in the ground ringed in plywood and said, "Son, you are looking at one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century."
I’m so intrigued. What exactly was this “hole”
@@jotrem4877 Penn station 😢
He took to it? Like he liked it?
He took me. i guess@@Ravum
I don't understand this. Can you explain?
I really love Roman/Greek architecture, wish we could see more buildings built in this style today.
yea we god damn know
you want america to be europe
Won’t happen, it’s too expensive
They're pretty but unoriginal at this point. Most architecture in the 21st century is mass produced, including classically styled buildings.
@@ecurewitz Not really they are not much more expensive than a modern building, unless you want everything to be marble, on average I read that it is between 3% more expensive.
@@robertozeladarodriguez5321 perhaps, but the builders still don’t want to spend any extra money if possible
If anyone wants to get an idea of how it's like to walk in the waiting area of the old Penn Station, visit Ottawa in Canada. The Senate of Canada building was the former central train station, and the main waiting room was also inspired by the Baths of Caracalla. It looks almost exactly the same as the old Penn Station's, but in 3/4 scale.
Interesting! I did go to Ottawa years ago. Are you referring to the interior of Parliament, the Senate section?
Copying the architecture of Rome is cool, but we didnt have to copy their collapse too
Misread the title as “What New York Looked Like In Ancient Rome” and thought I needed a little more sleep
I’m still mad about the demolition of Penn Station.
Nice job. Classical architecture abounds in New York. You just scratched the surface.
'The Hidden Roman Design of New York City - UA-cam'
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The Manhattan Municipal Building is absolutely stunning in person. Me and a friend admittedly got very stoned in Thomas Pain Park/Foley Square in May 2022, and turned the corner to face the MMB with the setting sun gazing down on it indirectly from the west and it was the most grand looking building I've ever seen in my life at the moment. The bottom Roman-esque pillars with its Golden statue peak reflecting the sun were magnificent. Despite its faults NYC is an amazing megapolis worth exploring indepth.
This is why I love Washington DC so much, its like being in a neoclassical dreamland, its stunning.
The Lincoln Memorial is my favorite structure in the US.
I recently visited New York for a school trip and was amazed by the neoclassical architecture mostly around Times Square and the fashion district but it was pretty pretty much everywhere i went in manhattan
You can still visit the Croton Aqueduct. Parts of it have been preserved as historic sites and greenways for walking and biking. It's a pretty nice day trip, if you live close by.
"...and finally, in 2024 New York, the transition from the City Beautiful movement to the City Cesspool movement has been completed."
Thank you so very much for this short and excellent video of neo-classical architecture in Manhattan.
As a New Yorker I mourn the loss of so many of the exquisite structures depicted.
It remained a beautiful city through the 1950's.
Thanks for sharing the podcast interview and your new book. Hope to look into it soon.
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The US had many beautiful building, these were all taken down and replaced with "modern" architecture. Early architecture in the states was amazing and an inspiration to the ppl making America.
Because those beautiful buildings were not built by us but were already there. They were the evidence of a lost civilization that existed and were FOUNDED it. That is why we FOUNDED our cities and FOUNDED America. Not created...
Ask yourself why they bulldozed them? To erase the true history. And why we don't ever build anything that beautiful to this day. Even billionaires with all the money in the world do not make structures like this.. because they can't!
Your videos are always 10/10--not terribly long, extremely interesting, well-edited, and of course educational.
I love that your videos do not have unnecessary background info or introduction.
what a great video, will watch it several times, I will need to research McKim, Mead, and White further, Thanks!
The brutalist designs that became more popular around 30-80 were pretty bad, but the Art Deco was not a downgrade, the Chrysler Building is still one of the most beautiful edifices in the entire world. Just saying.
Brutalism emerged in the 50s
Your videos are always sooo good. Thanks.
I really apreciate your work. Thank you!
My father used to work at the (now defunct) Grand Prospect Hall, a beautiful 1903 Victorian style banquet hall in Brooklyn.
Between my fascination with that building, and reading the Great Gatsby in HS, I found great admiration for early 20th century NYC and used it as a reference in art classes, so it's the version of the city I'm used to seeing.
But whenever I see what they've done to the skyline in person, I feel disgusted. In the never ending tale of NYCs destruction, that aforementioned Grand Prospect Hall was torn down in 2022 to make way for an apartment block.
Just googled it. Damn shame.
Outstanding as always.
This was a fascinating & informative video. Thank you.
Off topic, but thank you for putting your ads at the end. UA-cam is so full of ads, and it is maddening to hear an add break after the first thirty seconds of a video.
I wish youd do longer vids and more podcasts! Ive listened to them all 2 plus times! Channel is great.
“the anxiety of influence” - another Bloom fan? love that book
Really cool channel man!! Love this lol!
Love these videos. You should do one for Philly, we have a ton of great neoclassical buildings.
Most people don't see what's around them. I'm probably the same but I look at the architecture of small towns and big cities. It talks but only if you listen. Thanks for this vid.
And the fun part is you only need to look, sometimes even the most mundane buildings can have amazing details. Just the other day I went inside a boring industrial building from the 50s but once inside the whole entrance lobby was covered from ceiling to floor in a beautiful green swedish marble.
I agree. You never know. Great features turn up everywhere you look.@@xXcangjieXx
And women wonder why we think about the Roman empire so much. It totally surrounds us.
Idk about you but I think about the Ming Dynasty little bro
who’s we? you French or sumn? 💀 I don’t think about a particular European empire
@@ackvevo The Ming was inferior the the Qin and Han. It was a relatively weak dynasty because the aristocracy was eliminated centuries prior.
@@timothymatthews6458 based
The Ming weren’t afraid of exploring the world either
@@ackvevo Um, when I said it was weak, I was not implying that it was a good thing. It is bad when a state is weak.
great video, i love this channel
Thank you for mentioning Philadelphia, it's tiring when William Penn's contribution to American city layouts gets ignored. Just look how Boston turned out
Never been inside the city but drove past it couple times. Seeing it as I drove past was good enough for me
I'm so Fascinated of the past architectures.
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And she immediately throws the pillow in your face “why do you always think about the Roman Empire?”😂
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I long for the prewar New York cityscape, so beautiful.
Many old structures in L.A. still stand, although our current civilization isnt wise or wealthy enough to care for them.
My favorite piece of neoclassical architecture in NYC is the Con Ed building near union square. It is so grand on the skyline and feels larger than life! Great video as always
super video, thank you
New Yorker here. Not sure how new Tom's is but love the Seinfeld reference!
Also I be was hiking the Old Croton Aqueduct trail just this weekend!
Amazing feat for it's time
I watch your videos every night before bed. I look forward to it every night.
Chicago too - in some ways more so!
Way more
the entire u.s.a and the rest of the world actually
Far more, more than you'd believe.
I took an architecture class that really focused on Chicago. Its rise was a bit later and better organized than Manhattan’s.
Stunning
I really enjoyed this. Thanks!!
My favorite reminder of classical grace in public architecture is Bethesda Fountain in Central Park. Small in scale but vast in evocation, it never fails to send my thoughts winging to the ancient shores of a more eloquent, noble idea of civilization.
I suppose this finally explains the state nickname "The Empire State."
Fascinating.
I guess that’s why they call it “The Big Ap-Palaiologos”
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Don’t fail to mention the significant of ley lines ! The free masons would want them remembered
I wish the city beautiful movement had lasted, or better was still with us :(
Rome and NYC are my two favorite cities I visited. Coincidentally, while not having visited that many cities around the world, I think they are the two greatest urbanistic achievements of mankind.
Oh thats so interesting 🎉
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Absolutely fantastic video. I love the voiceover and over-all style.
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New York still looks like Rome but of course it looks like Rome one century after the fall.
I for one would be very curious to see a comparative analysis of American "Civil Cult" and Roman traditional religion.
Temples to Jupiter, temples to Lincoln and Jefferson. Etc.
The center pf Washington, DC does has an ancient Roman atmosphere, and I think a time travelling Roman would think that the Lincoln Memorial was a temple to an emperor/god.
Trump cult as well
The sickness makes them incapable of going more than a few minutes without mentioning him. It usually only infects disturbed, malicious,loserly types.
@@susannewcomer9614 I don't feel that this is by mistake. Lincoln is the forever dictator of the Democratic Party. He has achieved apotheosis, and his authoritarian rule over the United States sets him along the likes of great leaders before him, like Genghis Khan, or Julius Caesar, himself. Lincoln is worshipped like a god, and while he does not receive sacrifices, the rest of the tropes still apply.
There’s a lot of places where you can still catch the vibe to be honest especially around lower midtown and Wall Street. There’s even some Babylonian looking buildings with wild stone work.
Positively thrilled you've referenced, often, City Beautiful! Are you on gram?
A lot of beautiful buildings in Boston/Cambridge, by McKim, Mead and White, too. I'm not sure who was responsible, but one of the oldest buildings, at MIT, sure qualifies as "Romanesque"!
We need a city beautiful movement back, big time.
Now we have giant twig skyscrapers that are eyesores in the city skyline.
Penn Station based on the Baths of Caracalla. Oh, *that* paragon of virtue!
Is there any signs of Roman influence in Milwaukee?
if you haven’t seen it already, the old northwestern mutual insurance building is a really cool and great building with an obvious neoclassical influence, but it looks like most of milwaukee’s influence is german
Andrea Palladio 🇮🇹 "Father of American Architecture"
Pretty salty that i was born before having the chance to visit the original penn station. At least we still have grand central!😊
I really love Roman and Greek Architecture. I wish there were more splendid architecture like that today
RIP old Penn Station
As the city decivilizes into complete collapse, unfortunately neoclassical architecture won’t leave ruins as picturesque as the original.
What a time it was
You dont not forgotten the villa pamphili in Pompei like to San Francisco other Manhattan!❤
Penn Station still exists, but it's entirely underground now. What stands above it is Madison Square Garden.
Madison Square Garden was also built by that same great firm that designed the old Penn Station. But that was demolished too in place of the cheap brown concrete mess called MSG.
yeah but the building above ground needs to be brought back
The past had so much more class and respect to form
5:47 Small correction...the marble structure was dedicated in 1895, but it was finished 1892, after a year of fundraising and planning by public committee. Original concept Arch work started in 1886, and finished in 1889 was made of wood-frame and Plaster. Fun facts: The area in the 1790s was originally a burial ground, with public executions, which the area 30-40 years later was covered over and became a housing development for the rich.
As always, an interesting video with cool facts that enrich what I knew. Can't wait to visit New York again and look for the hidden Roman architecture!
Francis Ford Coppola now has an upcoming film titled "MEGALOPOLIS", an epic Roman fable set in a fantastical New York City. :)
Novum Eboracum
Interesting latin translation
Some of the old destruction was bad planning or negligence, but much of it was an intentional attack on our society. These were meant to remove beautiful things and heritage from our daily lives so we the workers would become indifferent to our surrounding. Be ok with moving often and prevent us from establishing community and pride.
I've lived in New York City for 13 years, and I still sometimes get lost in the financial district...
I preferred your first thumbnail image
The glory days
'We wuz Caesars n shieeeeeeeet!'
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We wuz kangz
We sold other kangz to whites
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Every Germanik ever
Look at Notsee parliament logo,
Holy "Roman" "Empire"
US "Senate"
Nice shot of the Seinfeld restaurant! (Tom's Diner.)
We really should bring back the horse and wagon building method 😮
Torn down to hide the past.
Tartaria the way you think of it never happened bud
@@dbyspae122
Tartaria was the name given to the Eurasian Steppes by Medieval historians
It was inhabited by Tatars and it was a hellish wasteland
In Greek "Tartarus" was the name for hell...Medieval historians were fluent in Greek and Latin
Not hard to see why they called that land Tartaria
Obviously.
@@dbyspae122 They say many of these buildings took a year to build. It doesn't need to be tartaria to be suspecious.
@@Svenburchard The Empire State Building took less than 18 months. There's MOUNTAINS of evidence documenting how it was done. Hard work and loads of planning can do all sorts of incredible things. Nothing "suspecious" [suspicious] about it if you understand anything about project planning.
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Racist?
@@Mai-Gninwod 🥹
always like the neoclassical pieces or architecture of New York.
Old school is the best school. True for almost everything.
The arch leading onto the Manhattan bridge very closely resembles the Porte Saint Denis in Paris.
Interesting that the beautiful buildings that so many contrast with the glass towers of today and the brutalist nonsense of 50 years ago were the result of a short-lived concerted effort.