You obviously haven't read the Labour amendment, because it clearly calls for a ceasefire, and does so more emphatically than the SNP motion, going even further to impress the importance of Palestinian statehood. Here is the full wording of the Labour amendment: "That this House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7th October cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to be meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour."
The people who get to ask questions petition before hand and are put on a programme list only seen by the speaker and office. If their is extra time or a particular importance they will accept more questions for MP on the Pogo. The only people during pmqs who always have question slots are 3 biggest opposition party leaders
@@REG96AV I will just add that, in that particular Prime Ministers questions they were speaking about Dianne Abbot. So it did seem a bit rude to not acknowledge her at the time.
@MnemonicNex guess your right in that situation. Lisey hoyle has acted before for the benefit of the labour party whilst speaker e.g considering the labour proposement on Gaza on a SNP oposstion day before the SNP's. Diane abbot is pretty much apposed to labour leadership as seen with how quickly she condemned labour with the miscommunication of her deselected.
@rodden1953 Abbot deserves to be ignored - a token black women in a seat so safe if she died and was stuffed the Hackney electorate would still vote for her !
And the people of Chorley are left without representation for the 5th general election in a row, perhaps we should be able to vote for a speaker directly, one who doesn't have a duty to a constituency.
@@gothicgolem2947 he engineered the order of the bills so the SNP couldn't hold their motion because they knew that labour MPs would vote for it against the whip. It means he's not fit for the position
@@shmubob that political lexicon and groundbreaking parliamentary giant who's political journey became so offensive to the party he outgrew in character that, it seems, bully is the name by which some people who still believe tories like to use. Give me a man who understands the parliamentary fundamentals who tells you with every sylible He's a fair and just person wrapped in pint sized oratory magnificence. Than a wet, weak, and underwhelming whippet anyday.
Honestly look at em all just sat there having a chuckle while country goes to shit… bloody shameful. Here an idea… less fucking talking more fucking doing!!
@@gothicgolem2947that specific PMQs centred on a racist Tory party donor's comments about her and all black women, and despite everyone talking about it she was not allowed to speak on the matter herself. It screams "we're talking about you not to you" and it stinks
Look up the rules for PMQs. Basically the people guaranteed time to ask questions (in the limited 2x15 minute sessions) are the leader of the opposition and the 2nd largest opposition party. So in the previous parliament that would have been Labour & SNP leaders, this time it will be Conservative and Liberal leaders. Beyond that it's potluck and largely depends on time. And aside from that, if she hadn't had the Labour whip withdrawn for saying some pretty indefensible things, maybe she could have had Starmer name drop her to "catch the eye" of the speaker for her own follow-up. As it was that wasn't going to happen so she took her chances like every other backbencher. And then whined about it when it didn't happen.
@hughshepherd6596he s not a scratch on berco I had the lowest expectations of berco he did well and for a Tory he was exceptional ,Hoyle on the other and is a dishonourable wimp .
His biases leaning towards the Labour Party is no big secret. Look at what he did to the SNP on the Gaza vote. Schandless. It's all about whose back can I scratch to scratch mine later politicsics. Even with the speaker. Corrupt and Bias. Two words that describe Lindsay Hoyle.
It'll last until Labour get drunk with power and suffer the same issues that most parties do when they're in power too long - leadership succession battles, corruption, scandals, recessions, wars etc.
yes and no...on the one hand there is something a little bit alienating about it but on the other hand it's a bit of fun - it's probably not possible to stick a camera in a room full of politicians and there not be something intrinsically weird about it - see it for what it is - it's an imperfect institution - look for a way for it to work for you...
@@daveradiators8746 Yeah, there's nothing like our elected representatives having a bit of fun as millions rely on foodbanks in 2024. Out of touch morons is what they are.
Hoyle annoys me so much. He makes me cringe ever time he opens his mouth and spouts out his awkward crap. For a 'speaker', he has next to no oratory skills.
I assisted Lindsay Hoyle with his 2017 election when he was then deputy speaker. Certainly representation is an issue, I've found him chirpy and passionate about local issues and Labour policies. Alhough my Dad thinks he has too much of an ego, when he helped an independent candidate in the 2019 election. Many of our political quirks are hundreds of years old, it's good to keep some traditions, but some things need updating. It's also good to see Cat Smith finally on government benches, Kier needs bring in more of the left leaning MP's and reunite the party. I know Cat from my very first year at Lancaster university, through the universities very active Labour club.
Yeah those 75% who voted for him clearly think he's not representing them. I'm sure a cursory glance at house rules would indicate how a speaker could raise issues affecting his area without conflicting with his role as speaker. I'm also certain that he is more attentive to his constituents than a lot of other MPs unburdened by high office.
Why anyone think they have right to serve in parliament over 30 or 40 years. Living up with public funds doing very little. They are simply denying the opportunities for the capable young people.
Instead of all the bowing and recognition of power and grovelling to the king and such. How about you thank those that voted for you and reinforce, you are a public servant and the number one priority is to serve us, the common people. Starmer's speech hit completely differently to this establishment pandering.
What do you think Feris is going to do? Well, shake it up, baby now, twist and shout Come on, come on, come, come on, baby, now (come on baby) Come on and work it on out (work it on out)
I don't like how he didn't call Farage out for insulting his predecessor. Also, whats with this mother and father of the house? Is this politics or playing family?
Those are (mostly) ceremonial titles held by the MP with the longest period of uninterrupted service. Technically, there's a tie for longest period of service (with several serving MPs who have been serving since the 1983 general election), but Edward Leigh (the current title-holder) was sworn in first.
Let the I's have it, Sir Lindsey is a great choice and let's see more of the unbiased commands from him to protect dignity and the honour of Westminster whilst others disgrace it. Only if some other MPs could take a leaf out of his book then Westminster would concentrate on politics and nothing else.
Only now asking why speaker of the house isnt appointed to a civil servant who is unbiased? Surely it seems mad to appoint an MP who has a constituency to represent. Dont know why I'm thinking logically, there isnt anything logical about parliament.
Yea, I never understood this... The speaker can't debate of vote and is meant to be natural... But their constituency voted them in to represent them in parliament associated to a specific party.
Sir Keir saved him and now Sir Keir has his own personal Speaker.
nah rishi made a point of "working together" nudge nudge wink wink "with the speaker".
his pet.
His prize from the friends of Israel for wrecking the ceasefire vote.
The tories wrecked that not him
You obviously haven't read the Labour amendment, because it clearly calls for a ceasefire, and does so more emphatically than the SNP motion, going even further to impress the importance of Palestinian statehood.
Here is the full wording of the Labour amendment:
"That this House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7th October cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to be meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour."
Is Sir Lindsey Hoyle really the best that the Commons can do for Speaker? He was terrible in the last Parliament.
He'll probably overrepresent Farage to appease the right.
@@markhayward7400 he's not really supposed to do anything other then say shut up.
He was terrible? How so?
@@jazztec4255 He tried to do something other than say shut up, and the SNP tried to string him up for it.
No he is not. Possibly Starmer returning the favour Hoyle did for Labour regarding ceasefire debate.
His dad started labour friends of Israel. Explains alot
@dondoodatNope! Friends is just a undercover word so they can get up to all kinds of illegal biddings with one another.
He ignored Diane Abbot not long ago when she stood up over 40 times .
The people who get to ask questions petition before hand and are put on a programme list only seen by the speaker and office. If their is extra time or a particular importance they will accept more questions for MP on the Pogo.
The only people during pmqs who always have question slots are 3 biggest opposition party leaders
@@REG96AV I will just add that, in that particular Prime Ministers questions they were speaking about Dianne Abbot. So it did seem a bit rude to not acknowledge her at the time.
@MnemonicNex guess your right in that situation. Lisey hoyle has acted before for the benefit of the labour party whilst speaker e.g considering the labour proposement on Gaza on a SNP oposstion day before the SNP's. Diane abbot is pretty much apposed to labour leadership as seen with how quickly she condemned labour with the miscommunication of her deselected.
@@MnemonicNex Thanks i couldnt remember what is was about , But i knew he should have called her.
@rodden1953 Abbot deserves to be ignored - a token black women in a seat so safe if she died and was stuffed the Hackney electorate would still vote for her !
What a fucking circus.
Guy Fawkes was unto something mate. The entire thing needs to go. Absolute circus.
How?
You should try Moscow.
this is nothing lol. come to india haha and see how parliament behaves
And the people of Chorley are left without representation for the 5th general election in a row, perhaps we should be able to vote for a speaker directly, one who doesn't have a duty to a constituency.
I agree, How is this fair that almost 100,000 people are left without representation? Sad
But it’s the mother of all parliaments etc etc
He's not been speaker for 5 elections
@@joeohara3447 He’s been deputy speaker for a long time before his stint as speaker, which is still an MP’s role i believe
@@joeohara3447 he was deputy speaker for bercow so he's had to be impartial for the whole time
Ridiculous so embarrassing grown adults absolutely sick of the lot of them
Now we see what Kier told him after the debacle with thr SNP.
What? That he wouldn't stand against a long standing convention of not opposing the re-election of the speaker of the house?
What a nonsense with Hoyle returned as Speaker I despair
Give up m8. Emigrate to the Isle o Wight.
Looks like that Gaza vote escapade paid off for him then. Pity he cant be dragged out of the chair as well.
Yup. Absolutely disgraceful
Bro, he's still young 😉
@@biornr.4031how is it disgraceful?
Eh idk about that may have got in regardless
@@gothicgolem2947 he engineered the order of the bills so the SNP couldn't hold their motion because they knew that labour MPs would vote for it against the whip. It means he's not fit for the position
Should have lost his job ages ago
Lindsay hoyle is a joke...he has helped to make the wstmonster a pantomime...
Westminster has always been a bit of a panto
@matthewlvk7366 wastemonster would be more a fitting. Do you not agree.???
Should of been dragged back when he avoided talking about the Gaza vote.
What an utterly ridiculous tradition!
Right Honourable Chocolate Teapot is back...
He s a creep
Nope. Sorry.
Bring back Bercow.
OOOOOORRDDDAAAAAAA!!
That bully?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@shmubob that political lexicon and groundbreaking parliamentary giant who's political journey became so offensive to the party he outgrew in character that, it seems, bully is the name by which some people who still believe tories like to use.
Give me a man who understands the parliamentary fundamentals who tells you with every sylible
He's a fair and just person wrapped in pint sized oratory magnificence.
Than a wet, weak, and underwhelming whippet anyday.
@@shmubob That's right whiners for you - happy to punch down at all times, but if anyone gives them a hard time then they have a little cry.
Honestly look at em all just sat there having a chuckle while country goes to shit… bloody shameful. Here an idea… less fucking talking more fucking doing!!
The only thing he's interested in is getting into the house next door, another waste of space.
We need Guy Fawkes to return !
Useless Speaker. Should have lost his job ages ago.
This is unacceptable! Britain deserves better! Not Hoyle. I am utterly disgusted in this pathetic decision...
Are we seriously all going to forget the utter contemptible way he treated Diane Abbott?
He did not ask her at one pmq because he ran out of time. He should have I think but it was only one time
I'm glad he did. Nobody likes that woman.
@@gothicgolem2947that specific PMQs centred on a racist Tory party donor's comments about her and all black women, and despite everyone talking about it she was not allowed to speak on the matter herself. It screams "we're talking about you not to you" and it stinks
😂😂
Look up the rules for PMQs. Basically the people guaranteed time to ask questions (in the limited 2x15 minute sessions) are the leader of the opposition and the 2nd largest opposition party. So in the previous parliament that would have been Labour & SNP leaders, this time it will be Conservative and Liberal leaders. Beyond that it's potluck and largely depends on time. And aside from that, if she hadn't had the Labour whip withdrawn for saying some pretty indefensible things, maybe she could have had Starmer name drop her to "catch the eye" of the speaker for her own follow-up. As it was that wasn't going to happen so she took her chances like every other backbencher. And then whined about it when it didn't happen.
Do these people live in 1400's
The Speaker's seat isn't contested at a general election. The poor sods were lumbered with him.
If Hoyle is the answer, you're asking the wrong question
Pure pantomime no wonder nothing gets done. It's parliament that needs reformed.
Rewarded for conspiring with Starmer to scupper the SNP Gaza ceasefire vote and ignore Diane Abbott
He served parliament for a long time, so can he just retire and enjoy that early cup of tea in his house?
Get rid of him.
Hear hear
@hughshepherd6596 what’s that got to do with the price of eggs? This one needs replacing…he’s a joke.
"The Gravy Train is leaving Platform 1".
@hughshepherd6596he s not a scratch on berco I had the lowest expectations of berco he did well and for a Tory he was exceptional ,Hoyle on the other and is a dishonourable wimp .
@hughshepherd6596 Don’t be silly.
His biases leaning towards the Labour Party is no big secret. Look at what he did to the SNP on the Gaza vote. Schandless.
It's all about whose back can I scratch to scratch mine later politicsics. Even with the speaker. Corrupt and Bias. Two words that describe Lindsay Hoyle.
Oh my god not again..🙄🤦🏾♀️
Stop the world I wanna get off😆🤣
They missed a golden opportunity here, they should have had S. Flynne or D.Abbot !!!.
Useless.
And spineless
he had blood on his hands for what he did with the opposition day to SNP
Noooooo, he was totally useless last time
Its so good to see the Tories sitting on that side of the house. Long may it last.
Huh? Tories on both sides of the house the way the Establishment likes it. Toffs rule and plebs die in gutters waiting for operations or housing 😞
@@fullovstars9447 Just stay in debt and worried how you are going to keep a roof over your head the way they like it.
It'll last until Labour get drunk with power and suffer the same issues that most parties do when they're in power too long - leadership succession battles, corruption, scandals, recessions, wars etc.
Embarrassing these people in charge
what an embarrassing load of onanistic nonsense
Well I certainly regret googling that word
yes and no...on the one hand there is something a little bit alienating about it but on the other hand it's a bit of fun - it's probably not possible to stick a camera in a room full of politicians and there not be something intrinsically weird about it - see it for what it is - it's an imperfect institution - look for a way for it to work for you...
Unkind.
Hows it embarrassing or nonsense its a cool tradition
@@daveradiators8746 Yeah, there's nothing like our elected representatives having a bit of fun as millions rely on foodbanks in 2024. Out of touch morons is what they are.
Hoyle annoys me so much. He makes me cringe ever time he opens his mouth and spouts out his awkward crap. For a 'speaker', he has next to no oratory skills.
Complete pantomime.
Looks like he got his reward for airding labour in February then
Yes getting threatened with going for an early cup of Tea , must strike fear into all the MPs .
Oh fundamental, I thought he said "fucking mental" lol
This is NOT right. This man should never be considered to be speaker again.
I assisted Lindsay Hoyle with his 2017 election when he was then deputy speaker. Certainly representation is an issue, I've found him chirpy and passionate about local issues and Labour policies. Alhough my Dad thinks he has too much of an ego, when he helped an independent candidate in the 2019 election. Many of our political quirks are hundreds of years old, it's good to keep some traditions, but some things need updating.
It's also good to see Cat Smith finally on government benches, Kier needs bring in more of the left leaning MP's and reunite the party. I know Cat from my very first year at Lancaster university, through the universities very active Labour club.
It's still a circus 🎪
Dragged to the chair,mother of thehouse,father of the house,please do me a favour .These gits live in another universe.
The muppet show we are finished as a nation .
Once again the people of Chorley get no voice in Parliament
They voted for it
@@gameloser2893No, they didn't. Not really. When the speaker is running, other major candidates don't run, so the speaker wins every time.
It's such a stupid system
@@dog-jk2hn yeah because independent candidates have never gotten into parliament before
Yeah those 75% who voted for him clearly think he's not representing them. I'm sure a cursory glance at house rules would indicate how a speaker could raise issues affecting his area without conflicting with his role as speaker. I'm also certain that he is more attentive to his constituents than a lot of other MPs unburdened by high office.
Why anyone think they have right to serve in parliament over 30 or 40 years. Living up with public funds doing very little. They are simply denying the opportunities for the capable young people.
what a backward step....is this his reward for snubbing the SNP ?
This is the first Labour mistake!!! The country despises his weakness as the Speaker of the House !!! Don't make any more mistakes so early on!!!
He’s universally called into question by both sides, so I suppose he’s effective as a speaker by default.
Unless of course it's the SNP and then he's loyal to a foreign government above our own people.
Wtf is this pantomime. Just sit in the chair and get on with it.
Absolutely agree with you. Commons traditions need scrapping and Westminster needs turning into a museum. All needs modernising
@@matts2496 Do any of The Whinners actually bother to vote? If not, be quiet. If yes, put up with the process...
@@alanbeattie1470 Indeed I do vote Alan. Say, the next time you don’t agree with a system, keep to your own word and be quiet.
@alanbeattie1470 if you don't vote, you don't have a right to complain, so stfu
I bet Lindsay does a mean Michael Caine impression
He looks like Postman Pat! and talks like him as well
Looks like that threat/bribe worked then 🙄
Instead of all the bowing and recognition of power and grovelling to the king and such. How about you thank those that voted for you and reinforce, you are a public servant and the number one priority is to serve us, the common people. Starmer's speech hit completely differently to this establishment pandering.
weak man. no wonder rishi made a point of leaning on him in his speach.
get him back out. wrong decision.
That was one change they missed. He should not have back.
Hopefully Sir Lindsay will be more forthcoming this parliament, as he was too much on the Tory side last time, more independent this time I hope.
I congratulate to our new
Prime mister, 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Edward Leigh is a total gammon.
Complicit and enabling tory that's going to be he's legacy.
Fucking really??
The speaker is a shame on your house and it's history
Are they his carers dragging him up there?
Ugh Postman Pat again. He was absolutely awful in the last parliament.
what we see as "bad" about him is also specifically why he got the job. british democracy is a joke
What do you think Feris is going to do?
Well, shake it up, baby now, twist and shout Come on, come on, come, come on, baby, now (come on baby)
Come on and work it on out (work it on out)
I would love to see the speaker wearing the wig again it’s been so long . Let’s see the speaker wear the wig.
Absolute hilarious that the country is in the fucking toilet and they’re enjoying the absolute pantomime that the House of Commons is.
Why on earth would they want him to be speaker again he was awful during the last parliament maybe he can pull his socks up this time
Crooks
Why oh why???? What a joke 🤦♀️
At 180,000 a year plus a good pension and great free holidays. Of course he says yes.
Well spoken by all! Sadly, here in Australia we don't have this type of independent Speaker and we should!
What? A chocolate teapot? He did F all to bring or keep any order to the Tory rabble when they desperately needed bringing to heel.
I don't like how he didn't call Farage out for insulting his predecessor. Also, whats with this mother and father of the house? Is this politics or playing family?
Those are (mostly) ceremonial titles held by the MP with the longest period of uninterrupted service.
Technically, there's a tie for longest period of service (with several serving MPs who have been serving since the 1983 general election), but Edward Leigh (the current title-holder) was sworn in first.
@@ParasocialCatgirl I see. Still cringe though lol
@@keifer7813 understandable
He was ONLY ASKED if he wants to carry on being the speaker.any prevarication by mps and lesley will tell them to shut up. Oh the madness of h.o.c.!!
Its some bullsht
REFORM👊🏽😎 🇬🇧
Nazis
Bring back Bercow!
Let the I's have it, Sir Lindsey is a great choice and let's see more of the unbiased commands from him to protect dignity and the honour of Westminster whilst others disgrace it. Only if some other MPs could take a leaf out of his book then Westminster would concentrate on politics and nothing else.
Dragging to the chair, what century are we in?
Sir Linseed oil , ok to rub on wood I suppose
They need to stop patting themselves on the back with all this ego boosting and get to fixing this country.
Oh what fun. We are all just such jolly good chaps now in "this place", aren't we? Jolly good, jolly good, hear, hear, rah, rah!
It might be a bit unfair, however, the fact that he has been praised by Nigel Farage takes away his grace
Well... if you insist...
The very sight of the embarrassing Hoyle in that role again leaves me feeling very nervous.
Soon to be sending Farage for an early cuppa.
FFS I thought they must have replaced the chair with a Gibbet.
It is so embarrassing to watch this charade. A gruesome pantomime which shames us all. The sensible world should and will be laughing at us!
They've paid his price for the stitch up of the SNP motion on Gaza now then
So weird seeing red on the left hand side of the table but it's so nice to see 😊
Only now asking why speaker of the house isnt appointed to a civil servant who is unbiased? Surely it seems mad to appoint an MP who has a constituency to represent. Dont know why I'm thinking logically, there isnt anything logical about parliament.
Yea, I never understood this... The speaker can't debate of vote and is meant to be natural... But their constituency voted them in to represent them in parliament associated to a specific party.
Total berk-out