I'm a composite boat builder and found this episode of great interest. I've built all kinds of boats, from racing yachts (Hugo Boss Vendee campaign) to RIB's, luxury powerboats, small fishing boats, military boats etc. Seeing substandard work on production boats like this, infuriates me. Many mass production boats I've seen, employ poorly skilled staff and often cut corners. I would be inclined to play this video to any teams who came under my supervision again in this type of production work; to underline ultimately, the responsibility they have for people's lives at sea!
The reality that nobody will admit or say outloud is that the charter market is what made catamarans economically viable, and they build them to last 5 years and 5 years only. These aren't the products of craftsman like boats may have been in the past. Those with limited resources then buy their boats out of charter and have to fix them and maintain them or re-inforce the areas where corners were cut. Including bulkheads. I think its a broken business model as building a boat to last 10 years in charter would probably cost only %20 more for %100 more time, but the people who fund the boats don't want to leave them in charter that long.
@Chris Lowndes I did a stint at Sunseeker many years ago. I once saw bulkheads being laminated, tape joins to the Hull, straight over the top of sawdust debris, pieces not even brushed to one side, let alone cleaning with acetone. Check out Oyster Yachts as an example; keel fell off at sea! Poor staff and poor oversight.
Hey guys 👋 nice shout out - thank you 😊 Regarding BULKHEADS - you guys nailed it. All production catamarans have suffered from these and similar issues as you mention and to highlight this for everyone who thinks it’s only Lagoons, just this past week I’ve been helping an owner out with cracked bulkheads that are severely cracked - not a Lagoon - totally different brand - not French build either … I have photos of these things but not keen to share it because people out there make a meal of trashing other peoples boats which after all is their dream. But yep - this is not just a Lagoon issue - it’s a catamaran issue for all the reasons you mentioned . The 450 was an exceptional issue for sure but the boat I’ve been looking at this past two weeks is also a later build than our older boats - not Lagoon . I think you guys nailed it by saying as sea going people we need to be aware of these things and everyone should regularly check through their boats. Cheers guys - happy sailing - great video 👋
I have been watching many sailing channels including Parlay Revival and what happened with them and how the whole Lagoon story expanded to the point, that most of the 450s have actual design flaw now, when it comes bulkheads. While you do not have the same ship, the clouds have been above every Lagoon ship and now seeing this video, I'm extremely happy for you - I was one those who where worried and now I'm smiling. You have taken really good care of her and you look even the smallest things, when there is many sailors who just ignore until issue is not avoidable. So huge respect and thank you for highlighting the need to keep eye on everything. It is very important.
Ben and Ashley super informative video and I'm glad your doing the preventative repairs rather than wait until you are out in the middle of no where to fix it. Your little ones depend on you.
As a fellow Canadian ,I am very proud of you. Ashley reminds me of my aunts who were such beautiful and amazing people who would have a baby on their hip and a smile on their face. Your husband is a lucky man.
I have watched tonnes of YT sailing channels but this is the only one that I don't miss a single espisole !! Absolutely love the content and knowledge shared by Ben, Ashley. And I love the babies 🤣
Thanks for educating me further on the bulkheads on a catamaran. I've watched a few discussions and a rebuilding effort on bulkheads and this just makes it easier to understand what to look for and what to think about ahead of time. Thanks. And now on with the kids and sailing.
When I was building my little F-9A tri (Carbon skin over duracore), I wanted to strengthen the epoxy/putty fillets before taping panels and bulkheads together. Once I mixed the resin, I added some scrap carbon fiber filaments (about 1/4-3/8" long) and mixed them well, then add the fillers/thickeners for the putty. The intention was that all the filaments going different directions would make the putty bullet proof. After shaping the putty fillets, I would immediately tape the joint together with bidirectional carbon cloth and top with peel ply. Doing it all in one shot made it all one solid piece. Of course you could use glass fibers but you'd have to make sure the filaments wet out fully and don't rob the resin from the putty. It would be best to practice this a little first to get the mixture and technique right. To test both putty's (w/ and w/o fibers) I smashed samples with a hammer against the concrete. The fiber infused putty was significantly stronger. It was a little harder to work with but I'm glad I did it that way. I just figured I'd mention that option for anybody re-filleting and re-taping their bulkheads.
You were the first sailing channel that I ever watched but I have to admit the last two years of “Covid” videos have not been appealing to me. This is your best video in a long time. Welcome back.
Great to hear your take on the lagoon bulkhead debate. Don't compare yourselves to other UA-camrs, you guys are great, keeping it real, completing your circumnavigation, bringing up your kids on the water, living your lives. Thanks so much for sharing xxxx
Thank you, guys, for this video. I have been following the saga of the bulkhead issues of Parlay Revival and have been concerned with my favorite sailing channels that use cats. I am very glad to see you have been pro-active on this unique design flaw of the cats. Every cat owner would do themselves a big favor to inspect and repair any defect in their cat for their own safety and comfort. It is a design flaw perpetuated and accentuated by cat builders willing to take short cuts in production in order to rush a product to market. Optimum high-quality products are a result of high-quality design followed by high-quality construction materials and methods. Period!
Parlay Revivals last release was on setting up their rigging and it Was revealing to say the least ... Part of the failure problem may have come from the cats rigging being overtightened ... according to their expert .... The problem being tensioning stays to monohull type levels is enough on the Parlay generations of Cat to bend the bridge deck by over tensioning against the mast stays. 🤔 This on itself would load up those full width bulk heads .. They even showed how it first showed up in doors that wouldn't close due to distortion it could induce.
Thank you so much for all of the new videos and the old videos and thank you for just bringing us along even though you weren't on your sailboat God bless you every last 7 months I have watched a lot of you I'm in a wheelchair now and I wanted to say thank you for all of the videos and it's helped me so much through this I can't even explain it but I do want to say that I think the bulkheads are very very important thing and thank God that y'all know how to check those where is someone who's very new to the Sailing Community would not know how maybe you guys can make a video or something to help other people with catamarans to know what to look for all I'm saying is just be careful out there and God bless thank you so much you're in my prayers everyday as is everyone in the world but even though you're not my friends and true life y'all are part of my life and I will be praying for you God bless
Hi beautiful people, it wasn't that u were nieve, u simply trusted that the boat was built to sustain the cruising it was advertised to do. So stoked ur doing the things that make life just that little more safer and comfortable well done to u both and give the kids a hug from me.🇦🇺🤣
No need to say that, more than ever, planning will be your best friend. With 2 little kids onboard and no extra hands to help, make sure you have the best weather info and constantly up-to-date and plan according. Stay safe!
I've been following you for a long while now and I do think that this was an important video to make. You've put to rest a lot of issues that many of us have been talking about. We all learn from eachother, ( hopefully?) Thank you for doing your part. The toughest part of your journey will be raising your kids in that environment. I for one am pulling for you from the sidelines.
Love the content Nahoa. The dig at SLV with their million dollar trimaran made me laugh. They did start this genre of content on UA-cam and I watched them before any other sailing channel. That being said the authenticity and the journey you guys are providing is much more up my alley. You guys and Zatara are by far my favorite. I cant wait to join you out on the blue sometime in the future. Saving one day at a time to achieve that dream :)
If you're interested and you don't already know this conversation or maybe one like it happened on the channel Sailing into freedom between 3 owners who experienced serious or catastrophic failure.. (sailing into freedom, sailing zingaro and parlay revival) the video in question happened aprox 4 weeks ago.
Hey Ben, You might want to take a look at how your new lithium batteries are wired. I highly recommend reconfiguring them with bus bars and equal length wires. Its hard to tell in the video but it looks like the way they are wired now 1 or 2 of the batteries do all the work. This is crucial for the life of the battery more so now as you will be demanding much more power from them for your new air conditioners.
I never thought of that. Very crucial for multi battery setup. The wires can also heat up if some are a different size. I've had a plastic liner melt because 1 wire became overheated in a 3 battery setup. Thankfully I was close to shore and safety. Good luck out there.
Love Willa entertaining herself, by turning lights off and on while mom is making a video! She is such a toddler! Keep up the hard work and I look forward to the next update.
It's not just bulkheads or Lagoon. It's keeping an eye, nose, and open ear, on your boat for anything different. One telltale sign of the Lagoon 450 bulkhead issue is a creaky, noisy, boat. It was a strange noise that alerted Ben and Family about an issue that needed attention on their boat. Another thing that Colin of Parlay Revival tested was how flat the deck was, it wasn't, there was a 40mm drop in the middle. Troubles with doors not closing or gaps getting wider were another sign. Another good point brought up on Colin's channel was the importance of properly setting your rigging and gaining the knowledge of when and how to adjust it.
there's a great Car restoration programme I watch, Wheeler Dealers, it's very alike the issues you bring up here, over the years mechanics and the like know what look for when thinking about buying cars, even when buying different generations of the car model. the production Cat world, via great channels like you is building up a knowledge base very akin to this, and it's great. We're buying a 5yo Leopard later this year, thanks to you and other channels we're compiling a list of out of sight things that we'll be asking the pre purchase surveyor to look at; bulkheads & rusting fuel tanks are going right up there, thank you.
Anxious to see you guys out there enjoying yourselves on the water again. I can tell you're both so ready and deserving of that too. The kiddo's are growing like weeds! God bless y'all
Greetings from Arizona, USA I love watching your videos. You are living the dream. You ROCK ! I am almost as excited as you are to see you "SPLASH" your boat. Fair winds and fantastic adventures to you and your family.
I love the fact you guys are getting this done, and on a global scale this boat is in the top1 % of everyone out there on the water, your I think Philippians episode where you showed the local native people fishing boats out there. Shows how sketch some boats can be and still do this.
It is good to see someone who does proactive boat work. To many channels are about sail till it breaks. We do a lot of work a on ours and it sits in a marina 6 days a week. A lot of our marina mates never seem to get out as they have major repairs that could have been avoided with maintenance work.
I'm not a sea person; I had no clue what a bulkhead was. I also thought a catamaran was just a fancy term for boat. But when I heard "carbon fiber catamaran," I typed it into Google. Super fancy stuff! Can't wait for you guys to start sailing again. I found this channel just recently, so I think I came at the right time.
Well done video. This is all part of the evolution of boat design and construction. Videos like yours make a more informed consumer. Production builders will change as a result. The point about cost is a good one. Lagoon will certainly innovate to address bulkhead integrity while keeping costs down - future buyers will benefit as a result. Your shared experience is a necessary part of this evolutionary process. Thank you.
I have no idea why but i watch Sailing la vaga, Sailing Zatara, Sailing SV Delos, Sailing Uma and project atticus. But by far the one i click the fastest is you. I don't know what it is but i can't get enough. Thanks from the bottom of my heart and i love every video and dream one day to have the balls to go sailing!
I like how you analyze the boat issues. Yes, some boats have critical issues caused by factory but also issues come along as we continue our journeys. Important thing is to prevent from having them, and constantly check. Then if we find them, simply fix, so that our boats are stronger than yesterday. Thanks for the video.
Thank you so very much for this update on your bulkheads. I have heard of the issues on the Lagoon 450 and it has caused me some worry for you guys. I love watching your videos largely because I've grown so fond of your family. Seeing the state of your bulkheads and how you have taken care of them definitely soothes my mind. I can't wait to see you bobbing on the waves again and exploring!
Long time follower and have always enjoyed your video both pre & post kids. Am currently cruising Panama and was following a number of channels also in Panama and stumbled across this Lagoon 450 issue. As I really enjoy your channel, this prompted me to go back and look at your 2019 video. I’m glad you addressed the issue directly and it’s clear the issues you’ve dealt with are far less severe as the issues with the 450. I’m cruising in a 1998 monohull and would put the issues you’ve addressed throughout in the category of “Welcome to owning an older production boat”. That said at least in the case of my older production monohull, I firmly believe my older boat is better built than than the manufacturers newer boats. Thanks for sharing and safe travels. Blue Skies & Fair Winds - Bob , SV Chaos, San Carlos Panama
Well addressed, gee's don't you wish people had faith in your awareness once in awhile. Keep up the diligent work folks. It's your home of course you're going to make sure it's solid and safe. Ben's look when Willow jumped off the bed and landed feet first, priceless... hang in there it will become a daily experience soon.
Very wise guys, thank you for sharing this with us. After seeing this I'm going to check the bulkheads in my mono, she's on a 25 footer but she's been in some shocking storms. Just love your channel and please keep 'em coming! Smooth seas. Brian. TopHat 25'
Nahoa is the only sailing channel on YT as far as I'm concerned. The hallmark of this channel is that you pay no attention to the others, as though they never existed. Wink. What trimaran?
Thanks again Ben and Ashley for your real world insight into your boat. Btw, it looks like in the future you'll need some "jacklines" throughout the boat to "harness in" the younger crew, Cheers!🍼🥛🍸🍺
I love watching you guys! Bodhi has gotten so big.. guys all will be well once your back at Sea... You'll be back in the sail of things.... Thanks for sharing your lives with us! ✌🏼💗😊❣️
Thanks Ben for answering this question I know I'm one of your followers who has asked this question. Love your videos keep up the great job and stay safe, God bless you and family
Please as you get ready to sail away, would you make a couple of provisioning videos, showing what groceries you buy, and where, what other supplies you stock, and show how and where you store them, explaining what, you’ve bought and why those choices work for you? I love seeing how people prepare for being away from civilization! Thanks ❤️❤️❤️. Enjoy your channel, and love those beautiful babies!
Glad you have and or taking care of your bulkheads!! Can’t wait to see you back on the water and continuing your incredible journey.your a wonderful family and it’ll be fun to watch your children grow up in a wonderful way ❤️Fair winds ⛵️
Ashley, when Ben has the camera; just smile an say YES. 😁 I've seen cracked chop mat, it by itself has NO structural strength. It IS good as a backing on stiched cloth though.
The hammering… inspecting etc… sounds a lot like a NDI (non destructive inspection) technique called coin tapping. It is used a lot in the aircraft industry to detect voids in laminates etc…. Good stuff.
Funny... I was tempted to say something a while back, but figured you would have already heard it. What a wonderful response to a less than desirable circumstance. Proud of you :)
Great video and appreciate as a non-sailor all the time, maintenance and costs in owner a sail boat. You should take this episode and draft a manual for potential new owners.
You guys are doing great! You may have been a bit naive But you sure are not now!! Love your wonderful little family. A good buddy of mine brought his kids up from birth on a 50 foot Piver/Cross that he built completely. They cruised for 20+ years. I know multi’s are great but would much rather have a nice mono as I just can’t afford a cat. My Cal 2-46 that I paid 75K for and have cruised accross oceans still works great at 50 yrs old! And I have made 200 mile days on her. “Zingaro” had video on a Lagoon 500 that rattled and creaked like mad. You know that there are problems there. And yes, you are right, everything is a trade off. A composite carbon or all welded aluminum would be great but Wow! The price tag is way out there. So, you do what you can. The main idea is to GET OUT THERE! And you are!
I’m glad you guys put this video out there I could not agree more with your honest review of your ownership of your lagoon 410. Safe travels Maldives next? I’m just glad you guys are back on the boat and in the water!
Just read a typhoon hit Madagascar, is this storm season where you are? Great video after watching Colin on Parlay Revival ho through this, can never be too safe when it comes to your family. Cheers from Turkey Point Ontario.
This would be the best and informative video I have watched. To me the problem with the use of adhesive is it applied to thick. With age it shrink, which leads to cracking. To me if lagoon stopped using balsa wood and heavy ply but built with foam like other manufacturers. They would be building a better lighter boat.
BOATSC ARE OH SO MUCH FUN WITH ALL THE INTRICATE DETAILS THAT ARISE DURING THEIR LIFETIME IN THE WATER. Y'ALL LOOK LIKE YOU'RE STILL HAVING SO MUCH FUN. LOVE Y'ALL BTW, IT'S TIME TO CATCH SOME MORE BIG FISH SO I CAN HEAR THE DRAG GOING, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🇨🇦yes !! A good inspection before another long sail is smart ..lots of work but you guys r on it ....i remember when Delos did repairs before setting on on the Indian ocean....Smart then , u Smart now !! Looking forward to da new family adventurers ,,be safe have fun ...☮...💗💓from Surrey BC 💕💞🇨🇦
The reference to the 60’ catamaran is real! I used to watch them and they have completely lost touch. Now it feels like I am watching someone that is not real on that channel. I so like your real life channel where crap happens and you will fix it and go over the crap. I hope you get as large a following but pray that you stay the same.
I'm a composite boat builder and found this episode of great interest. I've built all kinds of boats, from racing yachts (Hugo Boss Vendee campaign) to RIB's, luxury powerboats, small fishing boats, military boats etc.
Seeing substandard work on production boats like this, infuriates me. Many mass production boats I've seen, employ poorly skilled staff and often cut corners. I would be inclined to play this video to any teams who came under my supervision again in this type of production work; to underline ultimately, the responsibility they have for people's lives at sea!
P.s been following you guys for years, God bless to you and your new and beautiful family x
The reality that nobody will admit or say outloud is that the charter market is what made catamarans economically viable, and they build them to last 5 years and 5 years only. These aren't the products of craftsman like boats may have been in the past. Those with limited resources then buy their boats out of charter and have to fix them and maintain them or re-inforce the areas where corners were cut. Including bulkheads.
I think its a broken business model as building a boat to last 10 years in charter would probably cost only %20 more for %100 more time, but the people who fund the boats don't want to leave them in charter that long.
@@ronaldezz whose God?
@Chris Lowndes I did a stint at Sunseeker many years ago. I once saw bulkheads being laminated, tape joins to the Hull, straight over the top of sawdust debris, pieces not even brushed to one side, let alone cleaning with acetone.
Check out Oyster Yachts as an example; keel fell off at sea! Poor staff and poor oversight.
@@airbear9445 The true and living God who dwelt among us. Yeshua.
Hey guys 👋 nice shout out - thank you 😊
Regarding BULKHEADS - you guys nailed it. All production catamarans have suffered from these and similar issues as you mention and to highlight this for everyone who thinks it’s only Lagoons, just this past week I’ve been helping an owner out with cracked bulkheads that are severely cracked - not a Lagoon - totally different brand - not French build either …
I have photos of these things but not keen to share it because people out there make a meal of trashing other peoples boats which after all is their dream. But yep - this is not just a Lagoon issue - it’s a catamaran issue for all the reasons you mentioned . The 450 was an exceptional issue for sure but the boat I’ve been looking at this past two weeks is also a later build than our older boats - not Lagoon .
I think you guys nailed it by saying as sea going people we need to be aware of these things and everyone should regularly check through their boats.
Cheers guys - happy sailing - great video 👋
I have been watching many sailing channels including Parlay Revival and what happened with them and how the whole Lagoon story expanded to the point, that most of the 450s have actual design flaw now, when it comes bulkheads. While you do not have the same ship, the clouds have been above every Lagoon ship and now seeing this video, I'm extremely happy for you - I was one those who where worried and now I'm smiling. You have taken really good care of her and you look even the smallest things, when there is many sailors who just ignore until issue is not avoidable. So huge respect and thank you for highlighting the need to keep eye on everything. It is very important.
Ben and Ashley super informative video and I'm glad your doing the preventative repairs rather than wait until you are out in the middle of no where to fix it. Your little ones depend on you.
As a fellow Canadian ,I am very proud of you. Ashley reminds me of my aunts who were such beautiful and amazing people who would have a baby on their hip and a smile on their face. Your husband is a lucky man.
Parlay revival opened a lot of eyes !
It’s hard to believe it’s been two years. Glad to see you are pushing on with your families adventures
I have watched tonnes of YT sailing channels but this is the only one that I don't miss a single espisole !! Absolutely love the content and knowledge shared by Ben, Ashley. And I love the babies 🤣
Thanks for educating me further on the bulkheads on a catamaran. I've watched a few discussions and a rebuilding effort on bulkheads and this just makes it easier to understand what to look for and what to think about ahead of time.
Thanks.
And now on with the kids and sailing.
I'm subscribed to Catamaran Impi. I rarely watch them because I have limited time. BUT they are a VERY IMPORTANT resource so I keep them around.
When I was building my little F-9A tri (Carbon skin over duracore), I wanted to strengthen the epoxy/putty fillets before taping panels and bulkheads together. Once I mixed the resin, I added some scrap carbon fiber filaments (about 1/4-3/8" long) and mixed them well, then add the fillers/thickeners for the putty. The intention was that all the filaments going different directions would make the putty bullet proof. After shaping the putty fillets, I would immediately tape the joint together with bidirectional carbon cloth and top with peel ply. Doing it all in one shot made it all one solid piece. Of course you could use glass fibers but you'd have to make sure the filaments wet out fully and don't rob the resin from the putty. It would be best to practice this a little first to get the mixture and technique right.
To test both putty's (w/ and w/o fibers) I smashed samples with a hammer against the concrete. The fiber infused putty was significantly stronger. It was a little harder to work with but I'm glad I did it that way.
I just figured I'd mention that option for anybody re-filleting and re-taping their bulkheads.
You were the first sailing channel that I ever watched but I have to admit the last two years of “Covid” videos have not been appealing to me. This is your best video in a long time. Welcome back.
Good take on maintenance! It is so true what you said, keep an eye out for any potential issues, catch them before it gets worst, and fix it!
"A stitch in time saves nine" - Granny.
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Whats up Sisu!!!! Frik and Petru watching Nahoa, that's bloody awesome 👌🏼
Great to hear your take on the lagoon bulkhead debate. Don't compare yourselves to other UA-camrs, you guys are great, keeping it real, completing your circumnavigation, bringing up your kids on the water, living your lives. Thanks so much for sharing xxxx
Thank you, guys, for this video. I have been following the saga of the bulkhead issues of Parlay Revival and have been concerned with my favorite sailing channels that use cats. I am very glad to see you have been pro-active on this unique design flaw of the cats. Every cat owner would do themselves a big favor to inspect and repair any defect in their cat for their own safety and comfort. It is a design flaw perpetuated and accentuated by cat builders willing to take short cuts in production in order to rush a product to market. Optimum high-quality products are a result of high-quality design followed by high-quality construction materials and methods. Period!
Parlay Revivals last release was on setting up their rigging and it
Was revealing to say the least ... Part of the failure problem may have come from the cats rigging being overtightened ... according to their expert ....
The problem being tensioning stays to monohull type levels is enough on the Parlay generations of Cat to bend the bridge deck by over tensioning against the mast stays. 🤔 This on itself would load up those full width bulk heads ..
They even showed how it first showed up in doors that wouldn't close due to distortion it could induce.
Thank you so much for all of the new videos and the old videos and thank you for just bringing us along even though you weren't on your sailboat God bless you every last 7 months I have watched a lot of you I'm in a wheelchair now and I wanted to say thank you for all of the videos and it's helped me so much through this I can't even explain it but I do want to say that I think the bulkheads are very very important thing and thank God that y'all know how to check those where is someone who's very new to the Sailing Community would not know how maybe you guys can make a video or something to help other people with catamarans to know what to look for all I'm saying is just be careful out there and God bless thank you so much you're in my prayers everyday as is everyone in the world but even though you're not my friends and true life y'all are part of my life and I will be praying for you God bless
FINALLY!, an informed and objective discussion on catamarans and bulkheads. Thanks for this refreshing video and all the others!
They worry about what parlay revival found on their lagoon !
Hi beautiful people, it wasn't that u were nieve, u simply trusted that the boat was built to sustain the cruising it was advertised to do. So stoked ur doing the things that make life just that little more safer and comfortable well done to u both and give the kids a hug from me.🇦🇺🤣
Very good breakdown of the issue and well presented Ben , cheers, Ross
No need to say that, more than ever, planning will be your best friend. With 2 little kids onboard and no extra hands to help, make sure you have the best weather info and constantly up-to-date and plan according. Stay safe!
another dandy show as always.
you guys are fearless!
looking forward to seeing you float again.
thanks.
I've been following you for a long while now and I do think that this was an important video to make. You've put to rest a lot of issues that many of us have been talking about. We all learn from eachother, ( hopefully?) Thank you for doing your part. The toughest part of your journey will be raising your kids in that environment. I for one am pulling for you from the sidelines.
Love the content Nahoa. The dig at SLV with their million dollar trimaran made me laugh. They did start this genre of content on UA-cam and I watched them before any other sailing channel. That being said the authenticity and the journey you guys are providing is much more up my alley. You guys and Zatara are by far my favorite. I cant wait to join you out on the blue sometime in the future. Saving one day at a time to achieve that dream :)
If you're interested and you don't already know this conversation or maybe one like it happened on the channel Sailing into freedom between 3 owners who experienced serious or catastrophic failure.. (sailing into freedom, sailing zingaro and parlay revival) the video in question happened aprox 4 weeks ago.
Love your channel! You’re informative, funny and love where you take us.
Hey Ben, You might want to take a look at how your new lithium batteries are wired. I highly recommend reconfiguring them with bus bars and equal length wires. Its hard to tell in the video but it looks like the way they are wired now 1 or 2 of the batteries do all the work. This is crucial for the life of the battery more so now as you will be demanding much more power from them for your new air conditioners.
I never thought of that. Very crucial for multi battery setup. The wires can also heat up if some are a different size. I've had a plastic liner melt because 1 wire became overheated in a 3 battery setup. Thankfully I was close to shore and safety.
Good luck out there.
Very insightful. Thanks Ben & Ashley for sharing this information.
I am so glad you did this video, & that you've checked & repaired bulkheads.
You guys are the best. Thanks for all the great advice for those of us that are shopping for a cat right now.
Love Willa entertaining herself, by turning lights off and on while mom is making a video! She is such a toddler! Keep up the hard work and I look forward to the next update.
It's not just bulkheads or Lagoon. It's keeping an eye, nose, and open ear, on your boat for anything different. One telltale sign of the Lagoon 450 bulkhead issue is a creaky, noisy, boat. It was a strange noise that alerted Ben and Family about an issue that needed attention on their boat. Another thing that Colin of Parlay Revival tested was how flat the deck was, it wasn't, there was a 40mm drop in the middle. Troubles with doors not closing or gaps getting wider were another sign. Another good point brought up on Colin's channel was the importance of properly setting your rigging and gaining the knowledge of when and how to adjust it.
there's a great Car restoration programme I watch, Wheeler Dealers, it's very alike the issues you bring up here, over the years mechanics and the like know what look for when thinking about buying cars, even when buying different generations of the car model. the production Cat world, via great channels like you is building up a knowledge base very akin to this, and it's great. We're buying a 5yo Leopard later this year, thanks to you and other channels we're compiling a list of out of sight things that we'll be asking the pre purchase surveyor to look at; bulkheads & rusting fuel tanks are going right up there, thank you.
Anxious to see you guys out there enjoying yourselves on the water again. I can tell you're both so ready and deserving of that too. The kiddo's are growing like weeds! God bless y'all
Greetings from Arizona, USA
I love watching your videos.
You are living the dream.
You ROCK !
I am almost as excited as you are to see you "SPLASH" your boat.
Fair winds and fantastic adventures to you and your family.
Hey fellow Arizonian. It is so hard to live in a landlocked state when you love the ocean, ships and California. 😂
Glad but not surprised to see you being so cautious. As always I wish you every happiness.
I love the fact you guys are getting this done, and on a global scale this boat is in the top1 % of everyone out there on the water, your I think Philippians episode where you showed the local native people fishing boats out there. Shows how sketch some boats can be and still do this.
It is good to see someone who does proactive boat work. To many channels are about sail till it breaks. We do a lot of work a on ours and it sits in a marina 6 days a week. A lot of our marina mates never seem to get out as they have major repairs that could have been avoided with maintenance work.
I'm not a sea person; I had no clue what a bulkhead was. I also thought a catamaran was just a fancy term for boat. But when I heard "carbon fiber catamaran," I typed it into Google. Super fancy stuff!
Can't wait for you guys to start sailing again. I found this channel just recently, so I think I came at the right time.
Well done video. This is all part of the evolution of boat design and construction. Videos like yours make a more informed consumer. Production builders will change as a result. The point about cost is a good one. Lagoon will certainly innovate to address bulkhead integrity while keeping costs down - future buyers will benefit as a result. Your shared experience is a necessary part of this evolutionary process. Thank you.
I have no idea why but i watch Sailing la vaga, Sailing Zatara, Sailing SV Delos, Sailing Uma and project atticus. But by far the one i click the fastest is you. I don't know what it is but i can't get enough. Thanks from the bottom of my heart and i love every video and dream one day to have the balls to go sailing!
I like how you analyze the boat issues. Yes, some boats have critical issues caused by factory but also issues come along as we continue our journeys. Important thing is to prevent from having them, and constantly check. Then if we find them, simply fix, so that our boats are stronger than yesterday.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you so very much for this update on your bulkheads. I have heard of the issues on the Lagoon 450 and it has caused me some worry for you guys. I love watching your videos largely because I've grown so fond of your family. Seeing the state of your bulkheads and how you have taken care of them definitely soothes my mind. I can't wait to see you bobbing on the waves again and exploring!
Thanks for the unvarnished, and unbiased truth about your boat. I impressed you didn't "go there" with bashing or praising. Nice job.
Long time follower and have always enjoyed your video both pre & post kids. Am currently cruising Panama and was following a number of channels also in Panama and stumbled across this Lagoon 450 issue. As I really enjoy your channel, this prompted me to go back and look at your 2019 video. I’m glad you addressed the issue directly and it’s clear the issues you’ve dealt with are far less severe as the issues with the 450. I’m cruising in a 1998 monohull and would put the issues you’ve addressed throughout in the category of “Welcome to owning an older production boat”. That said at least in the case of my older production monohull, I firmly believe my older boat is better built than than the manufacturers newer boats. Thanks for sharing and safe travels. Blue Skies & Fair Winds - Bob , SV Chaos, San Carlos Panama
Even the guys with total broken bulkheads love their Lagoons, guess that much work creates a lot of love.
Well addressed, gee's don't you wish people had faith in your awareness once in awhile. Keep up the diligent work folks. It's your home of course you're going to make sure it's solid and safe. Ben's look when Willow jumped off the bed and landed feet first, priceless... hang in there it will become a daily experience soon.
Thanks for the video on the bulkheads. I have wondered about the bulkheads on your boat and your safety.
Can't wait to see the 4 of you out on the water!
Very wise guys, thank you for sharing this with us. After seeing this I'm going to check the bulkheads in my mono, she's on a 25 footer but she's been in some shocking storms.
Just love your channel and please keep 'em coming!
Smooth seas.
Brian. TopHat 25'
So excited to see you re-starting your adventure! Keep on going, love your videos!
Nahoa is the only sailing channel on YT as far as I'm concerned. The hallmark of this channel is that you pay no attention to the others, as though they never existed. Wink. What trimaran?
Thanks again Ben and Ashley for your real world insight into your boat. Btw, it looks like in the future you'll need some "jacklines" throughout the boat to "harness in" the younger crew, Cheers!🍼🥛🍸🍺
I love watching you guys! Bodhi has gotten so big.. guys all will be well once your back at Sea... You'll be back in the sail of things.... Thanks for sharing your lives with us! ✌🏼💗😊❣️
You guys are some of the only people who do things truly correct. Good work.
Thanks Ben for answering this question I know I'm one of your followers who has asked this question. Love your videos keep up the great job and stay safe, God bless you and family
what a nice mood in the house.. nice to see you all happy .. keep it up.. fair winds always from Switzerland
Good video. Glad to see you guys on the cusp of setting sail again!
As always-love your content and love seeing you guys and your growing family. Be safe and happy sailing. ❤️
I much prefer your Chanel over the 60ft trimaran 😉 cant wait to see guys splash xx keep smiling you both look great xx
So excited to see you and beautiful children’s back out on Nahoa! Also to know she seems safe, and ready to cruise... Also with A/C, wow!
My Favorite Sailing Channel Family!!
Please as you get ready to sail away, would you make a couple of provisioning videos, showing what groceries you buy, and where, what other supplies you stock, and show how and where you store them, explaining what, you’ve bought and why those choices work for you? I love seeing how people prepare for being away from civilization! Thanks ❤️❤️❤️. Enjoy your channel, and love those beautiful babies!
Very objective commentary on a hot topic. Wishing you safe and sound passage!
Glad you have and or taking care of your bulkheads!! Can’t wait to see you back on the water and continuing your incredible journey.your a wonderful family and it’ll be fun to watch your children grow up in a wonderful way ❤️Fair winds ⛵️
I think you are smart to do this... particularly because you have your young family with you.....
Be safe....
Willa has found the light switches! Fun🤩
Ashley, when Ben has the camera; just smile an say YES. 😁
I've seen cracked chop mat, it by itself has NO structural strength. It IS good as a backing on stiched cloth though.
Thoroughly enjoy when you share the things you've learned. For as simple as they may seem I like it
Research is the best tool anyone can have ✌️
The hammering… inspecting etc… sounds a lot like a NDI (non destructive inspection) technique called coin tapping. It is used a lot in the aircraft industry to detect voids in laminates etc…. Good stuff.
Some would disagree regarding putty on the bulkheads ! Boating is continued repair and upgrade as you are experiencing ! Nice video ! Stay safe .
A good topic. Our kids have grown now. We extensively travelled with them on land. Great time for travel.
Love you guys! Such a sweet video. Love following you beautiful people.
Good luck guys! Cant wait to see you sailing! You are great!
Funny... I was tempted to say something a while back, but figured you would have already heard it. What a wonderful response to a less than desirable circumstance. Proud of you :)
Great video and appreciate as a non-sailor all the time, maintenance and costs in owner a sail boat. You should take this episode and draft a manual for potential new owners.
Great information Ben & Ashley. 👍😎👍
Great job Mom and Dad! Lovely take on maintaining your home/boat!
From one Canadian to another (Family) Much love and respect keep on keeping on !
love you guys and the newbies week after week. love from AK, NZ once again.
10:23 S/V N is a sea ting. another great episode
Very happy to watch your videos. Very good couple.
You guys are doing great! You may have been a bit naive But you sure are not now!! Love your wonderful little family. A good buddy of mine brought his kids up from birth on a 50 foot Piver/Cross that he built completely. They cruised for 20+ years. I know multi’s are great but would much rather have a nice mono as I just can’t afford a cat. My Cal 2-46 that I paid 75K for and have cruised accross oceans still works great at 50 yrs old! And I have made 200 mile days on her. “Zingaro” had video on a Lagoon 500 that rattled and creaked like mad. You know that there are problems there. And yes, you are right, everything is a trade off. A composite carbon or all welded aluminum would be great but Wow! The price tag is way out there. So, you do what you can. The main idea is to GET OUT THERE! And you are!
A good program guys,, yes I had questions on this subject, good answers 🤓
Guys, I went away when you were off the boat but soooo glad you are back. The bulkhead issue was interesting.
I’m glad you guys put this video out there I could not agree more with your honest review of your ownership of your lagoon 410. Safe travels Maldives next? I’m just glad you guys are back on the boat and in the water!
Well done on all the hard work. Always enjoy all your videos.
I think you had done your research before you bought nahoa and ultimately made the right choice… and I love the work you do do, immaculate and clean..
Just read a typhoon hit Madagascar, is this storm season where you are? Great video after watching Colin on Parlay Revival ho through this, can never be too safe when it comes to your family. Cheers from Turkey Point Ontario.
This would be the best and informative video I have watched.
To me the problem with the use of adhesive is it applied to thick. With age it shrink, which leads to cracking.
To me if lagoon stopped using balsa wood and heavy ply but built with foam like other manufacturers. They would be building a better lighter boat.
Thanks for filling us in on your bulkhead status. Cheers from your home province on the left coast. Cheers, your patron Doug
Almost time to sail and I can't wait!
BOATSC ARE OH SO MUCH FUN WITH ALL THE INTRICATE DETAILS THAT ARISE DURING THEIR LIFETIME IN THE WATER. Y'ALL LOOK LIKE YOU'RE STILL HAVING SO MUCH FUN. LOVE Y'ALL BTW, IT'S TIME TO CATCH SOME MORE BIG FISH SO I CAN HEAR THE DRAG GOING, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your all so bold and brave... I would never go out for fear of pirates...
yay im getting so excited cant wait for you to set sail!!!! kiddos going to love it so much!
Oh you do own a Lagoon. Learning a lot about bulkheads.
🇨🇦yes !! A good inspection before another long sail is smart ..lots of work but you guys r on it ....i remember when Delos did repairs before setting on on the Indian ocean....Smart then , u Smart now !! Looking forward to da new family adventurers ,,be safe have fun ...☮...💗💓from Surrey BC 💕💞🇨🇦
The drool! So much drool lol
You guys are crazy sailing with babies
I wouldn't be able to last a week.
Good luck and keep up the vibes.
Cannot wait for you guys to set sail again anyways fun video as always
The reference to the 60’ catamaran is real! I used to watch them and they have completely lost touch. Now it feels like I am watching someone that is not real on that channel. I so like your real life channel where crap happens and you will fix it and go over the crap. I hope you get as large a following but pray that you stay the same.