It was awesome coming across this video. It’s krazy, I was making my own skates back in the early 2000’s… Skating is actually how I met my wife. The weekends were spent at the roller ring, and being an aggressive skater- I seen all the quad riders doing fancy foot work and sliding. The dancing and foot work is what made me switch styles of riding. And soon after I started tearing apart skates to make my own. And when I did it, it was already being done but there wasn’t much tutorials on how to make emm. Kinda trial and error till you find what works, and how u prefer to stand on a base plate. 🤘🏼 brought back memories. Married with kids and I owe my life journey to skates
Nice, thanks for the comment. Yeah I use to skate as a kid and gave it up for years until I had kids. Now they are 12 and 9 and live at the rink like I did. Great family time!! Best of luck to you
@@freeflydenny thanks bro, the wife, kids and me still skate- but it’s usually just at the beach now. Nothing serious just some time rolling around the beach. Nothing like rollin a smooth surface as a ring. My kids have taken a passion for dirt bikes now. So much so 🤦🏻♂️ I have a pit bike track in my back yard. But 🤘🏼😎 you got a new subscriber and luv the content. After finding the video I watched a few more of yours. Keep up the work man.!.!. Known my wife since I was 12yrs old, and the memories that came with the roller ring and skates is tremendous.
I applaud Cali skaters. I tried wearing Stacy adams my mom's husband gave me. Wore them downtown New Orleans walking around and almost lost my toes. Can't wear them. My feet hurt thinking about it. I've only worn italian all my life. Salvatore Ferragamo, Gucci, Mezlan, etc. Maybe I can get the historic Gucci loafers plated. Or some italian brogues.
Dude, those little white skates you must have built yourself melted my heart!! I got all excited I had to comment before finishing the video. Grateful for practical roller skating information being available, thank you for sharing.
Your wife might do better with the 103A's as those are the hardest durometer available before getting into the clay, wood and fiberglass ones. This, however, also depends on your rink! Clay, wood and fiberglass are always going to slide a bit. My local rink, even in the 95A's I slide too much...but if I use those same wheels at the rink across town, it's like trying to skate in mud! The family actually had FIVE rinks built around me back in the 60's. 3 in town, one about 30 minutes away and 1 about an hour away. All 5 had the same exact flooring. Sadly, 3 of them closed, but...of the two still open, the one closest to me...we're lucky if they so much as sweep it before each session, let alone anything else. The rink further from me actually takes care of the floor - sweeping between each session, scraping off that lovely "rink gunk" as soon as it's noticed, recoating it regularly, etc. So, if your rink is "dirty" - you won't need the highest durometer. The one here, fiberglass wheels would be more akin to trying to roller skate on ice! If your rink properly maintains their floor, of course, go for the fiberglass for that slide. Also keep in mind that all rinks are NOT the same. Most do use wood, but there are rough concrete rinks, smooth/polished concrete rinks, sport court rinks, and more...with or without an added coating. Unfortunately, all you can do is play around with wheels based on your rink's surface and condition. There is no wheel (for whatever type of skating you do) that's going to be perfect for ALL rinks. Bright side; most rinks will let you sell your old wheels. That said, you won't get the full price, but you will get a good portion of the money you spent back. The rinks often take a "commission", of sorts, on re-sold items (wheels, skates, even bearings down to lock nuts.) . So, while you will lose a few dollars doing it, that is usually an option to at least get back some of your money so you can try another set of wheels if the first set you get isn't quite what you wanted.
Back in the 1970's-1980's Best two sliding wheels were Fomack & Mercury. Mercs were slightly better but when you slide on inside they would round off on the edges. Also get lots of flat spots, But you could slide for days on my Mercs. They were a off brown color
You should post videos of you sliding..as a fellow slider learning from all my OGs I want to see your style of sliding in the rink on whatever type of floor you slide on
Ill try , dont really got a camera man lol. I am out in Albuquerque on business and hit the rink and woooo doggy is the floor slippery. Fun AF. Wish we had those floors in cali! Could slide half the rink out here. Ill try to post somthin up if i get some footage:)
Real question I’m 6.2 245 I wear size 16s and I was wondering if I could use fiber glass wheels on high tops? Or would I need Stacy’s Adam’s/lowtop shoes
I would go with a Stacy high or low top. Reason being is you need that hard sole for support. If you went with a softer sole you will feel the plate on the bottom of your foot.
Dope! Definitely going to be getting some sure grip fiberglass wheels but what type of plate should I get that is flat enough for such small wheels to clear?
You only need a drill. I use a drill press just because I have one but unless you are making a shit ton, a drill is fine. You check the Kyle walker video I posted? Should be everything there. I've got some new techniques I need to post up... makes it a bit easier
To get that mean nasty beast sound on the fibers you have to get flat spots mostly from intense slidings and also using them a lot to the point where they chipping
It depends, if the rink is in good shape such as buffed concrete you should be fine. It will be EXTRA slippery. Probably wood would be the best to experiment. I would ask the rink what they think though. Worst case if you jack up your wheels you can always get them cut down and resurfaced.
@@jonathanchhay my son practices in our garage with Clay's but he sweeps the concrete before. Also it's a very smooth surface. They may get a little pitted but will hold up. I dont recommend using the same wheels you use outside and then use them on an indoor skating rink. Keep your outside wheels outside and inside wheels inside !)
I have some questions here in 2021... the shoes attached to the smallest wheels, do they have to be a small shoe like shoe? Can I use regular boots with such a small wheel?
You can use any boot or shoe you can imagine but the plate matters. A lot of the plates you find on traditional skate boots can't use fibers (~39mm or less if shaved down) because the kingpin is too large. Basically a hanging piece of metal will scrape the floor if you use small wheels with the wrong plate. Check the sk8fanatics insta for some custom skates examples
I bought wooden rolling skates cus It was cheep, I’m trying to ride them but they won’t work like… the wheels r all losen up when my sister push me it barely moves so idk what’s wrong with my rolling skates they barely moves when I wear them
Do you ever use sliding wheels on concrete my main rink is coated concrete and I did not know how that would effect my choices or any concerns I should have...
I probably wouldn't spend 130$ on fibers with a concrete rink, may want to try some cheap wood wheels to start. See how that goes. My son used clay on concrete for a while but it did chew them up a bit.
I have a limited budget and a big family-4 growing kids and limited funds. is it possible to buy a set of 8 wheels and 16 bearings for $50 for sliding? Im new to the game and have to buy online.which wheel and bearing should i get and which website? Thanks in advance
wow sorry so late on a response, I missed your comment. 50 $ you can get some sure grip wood wheels and some cheap bearings on amazon. Your local rink may have them too. Check out www.sk8fanatics.com/ I think they sell used wheels that they resurface. Hope that helps
@@freeflydenny what is the CHEAPEST wheels i can get for sliding? Company and size? For ex. I just bought some skates and the wheel is urethane 65mm 78a
@@ertfgghhhh if you are trying to get a slide on an indoor rink those wheels are the least slideing. I would start with these woods. 40$ Take the bearings out of what you got and put them in the woods. rollerskates.discountskatewear.com/p-4468.aspx?searchEngineName=sure-grip-wood&gclid=CjwKCAiA0uLgBRABEiwAecFnkynyyTRAUQ-4e4_3c1LScI8RtsBOC5CLJeG9iopIRaS8wzH9xL0GIRoC4yEQAvD_BwE
@@freeflydenny great idea!! Thanks soooo much!!! I have 3 middle schoolers,1 high schooler, service dog, and myself. Times are tight outchea!! Thanks for ur info. My eldest wears a 15. I finally have skates for everyone but will piece together skates for the eldest out of an old shoe. Thanks for ur expertise!!!
I purchased vnla luna fame indoor skates the wheel hardness states 95a/ 57m they stick to the floor i been to several rinks and it's the same , payed $224.00 for these skates very disappointed
i used to love skating when i was younger, so i bought a pay of skates recently and i wear size 13 now....and the plates are a size 9 i believe because thats the biggest size of nylon ones riedell has i guess ..... they feel like the back wheels are not far enough under my heel and the front of my foot hangs way over the fronts...... if i go with a bigger plate will it be better or will i lose too much manuverablity ???? I don't want to waste close to 400 dollars on nice aluminum plates only to have it be a mistake.
A suregrip 9 plate will fit a 13 shoe. I put the plate all they way to the back of the shoe. I actually like that my foot hangs over the front wheels. Gives me more maneuverability for backwards skating. Call the skate shop that you are gonna buy the plates from for some advice. I personally get all my stuff from skates.com and I always call them To order and ask questions. You can watch this video on how I mount MY plates. ua-cam.com/video/1awr_3vot7E/v-deo.html
@@freeflydenny ever heard of a skate having "death wobble" like a motorcycle ....thats another thing they do, once i try skating to hard or fast in them..... i know thats usualy a sign of something loose but i think its the nylon plate not being strong enough for me.
@@chrisristau8803I tighten up your trucks a bit... Sounds like loose trucks. I personally use the metal plates my self because I have had the kingpin strip out the nylon plate in the past. Once that happens you cant tighten the trucks. I get that wobble when I'm on my front 2 wheels but never when the skates are flat. If you were to buy suregrip plates you shouldn't have a problem.
It was awesome coming across this video. It’s krazy, I was making my own skates back in the early 2000’s… Skating is actually how I met my wife. The weekends were spent at the roller ring, and being an aggressive skater- I seen all the quad riders doing fancy foot work and sliding. The dancing and foot work is what made me switch styles of riding. And soon after I started tearing apart skates to make my own. And when I did it, it was already being done but there wasn’t much tutorials on how to make emm. Kinda trial and error till you find what works, and how u prefer to stand on a base plate. 🤘🏼 brought back memories. Married with kids and I owe my life journey to skates
Nice, thanks for the comment. Yeah I use to skate as a kid and gave it up for years until I had kids. Now they are 12 and 9 and live at the rink like I did.
Great family time!! Best of luck to you
@@freeflydenny thanks bro, the wife, kids and me still skate- but it’s usually just at the beach now. Nothing serious just some time rolling around the beach. Nothing like rollin a smooth surface as a ring. My kids have taken a passion for dirt bikes now. So much so 🤦🏻♂️ I have a pit bike track in my back yard. But 🤘🏼😎 you got a new subscriber and luv the content. After finding the video I watched a few more of yours. Keep up the work man.!.!. Known my wife since I was 12yrs old, and the memories that came with the roller ring and skates is tremendous.
Man yall put them stacy Adams on dem skates in California
I applaud Cali skaters. I tried wearing Stacy adams my mom's husband gave me. Wore them downtown New Orleans walking around and almost lost my toes. Can't wear them. My feet hurt thinking about it. I've only worn italian all my life. Salvatore Ferragamo, Gucci, Mezlan, etc. Maybe I can get the historic Gucci loafers plated. Or some italian brogues.
@@godjhaka7376 Stacy Adams is a reasonably priced shoe of quality materials with downtown style. I can spot a pair a mile away.
Dude, thanks for all the information. I built my daughter and I skates after watching your video! #respect
Awesome BRO!! Glad I could help! Thanks
Dude, those little white skates you must have built yourself melted my heart!! I got all excited I had to comment before finishing the video. Grateful for practical roller skating information being available, thank you for sharing.
Thank you!!!
Those tiny white vans are probably the cutest thing I've seen in a month. Love your content/builds
Awesome!! Thank you!!
Your wife might do better with the 103A's as those are the hardest durometer available before getting into the clay, wood and fiberglass ones.
This, however, also depends on your rink! Clay, wood and fiberglass are always going to slide a bit. My local rink, even in the 95A's I slide too much...but if I use those same wheels at the rink across town, it's like trying to skate in mud! The family actually had FIVE rinks built around me back in the 60's. 3 in town, one about 30 minutes away and 1 about an hour away. All 5 had the same exact flooring. Sadly, 3 of them closed, but...of the two still open, the one closest to me...we're lucky if they so much as sweep it before each session, let alone anything else. The rink further from me actually takes care of the floor - sweeping between each session, scraping off that lovely "rink gunk" as soon as it's noticed, recoating it regularly, etc. So, if your rink is "dirty" - you won't need the highest durometer. The one here, fiberglass wheels would be more akin to trying to roller skate on ice! If your rink properly maintains their floor, of course, go for the fiberglass for that slide.
Also keep in mind that all rinks are NOT the same. Most do use wood, but there are rough concrete rinks, smooth/polished concrete rinks, sport court rinks, and more...with or without an added coating. Unfortunately, all you can do is play around with wheels based on your rink's surface and condition. There is no wheel (for whatever type of skating you do) that's going to be perfect for ALL rinks.
Bright side; most rinks will let you sell your old wheels. That said, you won't get the full price, but you will get a good portion of the money you spent back. The rinks often take a "commission", of sorts, on re-sold items (wheels, skates, even bearings down to lock nuts.) . So, while you will lose a few dollars doing it, that is usually an option to at least get back some of your money so you can try another set of wheels if the first set you get isn't quite what you wanted.
Thanks for the added info. You are correct the rink definitively plays a big part in the slide.
Thanks for sharing extremely helpful for me.
Thank you very much for the great slides information!
Back in the 1970's-1980's Best two sliding wheels were Fomack & Mercury. Mercs were slightly better but when you slide on inside they would round off on the edges. Also get lots of flat spots, But you could slide for days on my Mercs. They were a off brown color
AWESOME video Bro! Subscribed all the way from the East coast !!
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s quick and to the point 👍🏽
You should post videos of you sliding..as a fellow slider learning from all my OGs I want to see your style of sliding in the rink on whatever type of floor you slide on
Ill try , dont really got a camera man lol. I am out in Albuquerque on business and hit the rink and woooo doggy is the floor slippery. Fun AF. Wish we had those floors in cali! Could slide half the rink out here. Ill try to post somthin up if i get some footage:)
thanks big homie! this video is perfect dude. i couldn't make up my mind, but you've totally helped me
No problem brother! Go for the fibers!! Lol you will love them !)
The best slide wheels to me is fomack or wood wheels coming from Detroit all we do is slide
Technically you gotta pick up speed first, so...
@@rhythmskating ok cool still the best wheels are fomacs or woods I’ll say wood wheels
@@SevenmilePoncho Thanks for the breakdown. I appreciate the perspective.
Real question I’m 6.2 245 I wear size 16s and I was wondering if I could use fiber glass wheels on high tops? Or would I need Stacy’s Adam’s/lowtop shoes
I would go with a Stacy high or low top. Reason being is you need that hard sole for support. If you went with a softer sole you will feel the plate on the bottom of your foot.
Interested in wooden wheels…your thoughts?
Perfect to statt.start.. they are on the cheaper side with good slide
Dope! Definitely going to be getting some sure grip fiberglass wheels but what type of plate should I get that is flat enough for such small wheels to clear?
Sure grip lo riders are great a little pricey but worth all the money
Thanks for the tip. I built some Stacy’s with Avanti plates and Sure Grip 32 mm fibers
Nice!! Send a Pic...
Are the plates good
Hey man , what’s your workshop set up? I am trying to start building my own skates and would like to know what all is needed.
You only need a drill. I use a drill press just because I have one but unless you are making a shit ton, a drill is fine. You check the Kyle walker video I posted? Should be everything there. I've got some new techniques I need to post up... makes it a bit easier
@@freeflydenny much appreciated!
What is the difference in a rear (skateboard) mount vs a more forward mount or centered?
Love the vids. What size shoe are you?
Thank you. 10.5
I wanna try building mine…where do you get your trucks from please ?
@@hoodskateLNDN skate fanatics
@@freeflydenny thank u!
Do we do the loseball
I would like to slide but is it only for really clean asphalt or I will be able to reach the Park without chipping it all on the sidewalk ?
How do you make the jump bar rattle when you skate?!!!!
I think you are describing loose ball bearings. They have a rattle sound...
How can you buy the woods cut down
Awesome video. Where do they let you ride the fiber wheels? My local rink doesn’t allow them
Hey brother for your slider skates at the end of video, which size plates and bearings did you get?
Size 7 on the plates for a size 10 foot. 8mm bearings.
To get that mean nasty beast sound on the fibers you have to get flat spots mostly from intense slidings and also using them a lot to the point where they chipping
Hello i was wondering if the wood wheels or fiberglass wheels would be okay to skate on an outdoor roller rink?
It depends, if the rink is in good shape such as buffed concrete you should be fine. It will be EXTRA slippery. Probably wood would be the best to experiment. I would ask the rink what they think though. Worst case if you jack up your wheels you can always get them cut down and resurfaced.
@@freeflydenny It is at a park next to my house and i wanted to practice there. How do you think clay wheels would stand up to the concrete?
@@jonathanchhay my son practices in our garage with Clay's but he sweeps the concrete before. Also it's a very smooth surface. They may get a little pitted but will hold up. I dont recommend using the same wheels you use outside and then use them on an indoor skating rink. Keep your outside wheels outside and inside wheels inside !)
@@jonathanchhay I would check on offer up for some used old clay fomacs for cheap to try out
In order to get skate like the church shoes do you have to
Make them or is there a brand similar to those, so I can just get fiber wheels
Make them or have them made from a skate shop..
Do you still make custom skates?
Yeah here and there
I have some questions here in 2021... the shoes attached to the smallest wheels, do they have to be a small shoe like shoe? Can I use regular boots with such a small wheel?
You can use any boot or shoe you can imagine but the plate matters. A lot of the plates you find on traditional skate boots can't use fibers (~39mm or less if shaved down) because the kingpin is too large. Basically a hanging piece of metal will scrape the floor if you use small wheels with the wrong plate. Check the sk8fanatics insta for some custom skates examples
I bought wooden rolling skates cus It was cheep, I’m trying to ride them but they won’t work like… the wheels r all losen up when my sister push me it barely moves so idk what’s wrong with my rolling skates they barely moves when I wear them
Bearings
How do you get wood wheels cut down?
Send them to sk8fanatics. They cut down to 32mm for 25$$
I’m trying to get into sliding a little bit. I have roller bones 98a. Should I get the 101a or just go to mini macs?
I would say start with the wood wheels. They are only 35$ if you dont like the slide its not a big dent to the wallet. They are a bit slippery though.
Hello does 32 mm wheels fit on the old 40'sand50's skate plates
Only if you get loose ball wheels.
Do you ever use sliding wheels on concrete my main rink is coated concrete and I did not know how that would effect my choices or any concerns I should have...
I probably wouldn't spend 130$ on fibers with a concrete rink, may want to try some cheap wood wheels to start. See how that goes. My son used clay on concrete for a while but it did chew them up a bit.
@@freeflydenny Thank you for the reply I appreciate it.
Is there a big difference in 38mm & 32mm fiber wheels other than just size?
No difference but the size
Hey those roller bones, are they loud?
No silent. A good thing about the roller bones 98a and 101a is they dont get dirty. They are the only wheels I don't have to ever clean.
FreeFly Denny ohh and those mini macs that your son has, are they really loud right when u get them?
@@Dro1o1 yeah those are loud. They got a nice slide to them too.
FreeFly Denny alright thanks a lot man 💯💯
Hey I got some Stacy’s I wanna put on my fibers can you switch them for me ?
Yeah, where do you live?
There is a 103A wheel too.
Would love to see you skate in those fiber sliding wheels
Hahaha I put a some clips in a few of those videos.... It's hard to watch these days, I tried a bit too hard....lol !)
I have a limited budget and a big family-4 growing kids and limited funds. is it possible to buy a set of 8 wheels and 16 bearings for $50 for sliding? Im new to the game and have to buy online.which wheel and bearing should i get and which website? Thanks in advance
wow sorry so late on a response, I missed your comment. 50 $ you can get some sure grip wood wheels and some cheap bearings on amazon. Your local rink may have them too. Check out www.sk8fanatics.com/ I think they sell used wheels that they resurface. Hope that helps
@@freeflydenny what is the CHEAPEST wheels i can get for sliding? Company and size? For ex. I just bought some skates and the wheel is urethane 65mm 78a
@@ertfgghhhh if you are trying to get a slide on an indoor rink those wheels are the least slideing. I would start with these woods. 40$ Take the bearings out of what you got and put them in the woods.
rollerskates.discountskatewear.com/p-4468.aspx?searchEngineName=sure-grip-wood&gclid=CjwKCAiA0uLgBRABEiwAecFnkynyyTRAUQ-4e4_3c1LScI8RtsBOC5CLJeG9iopIRaS8wzH9xL0GIRoC4yEQAvD_BwE
For sure you can’t get fiber I have fibers not cut down on my custom vans and just the wheels are for 120 bucks and bearings my jeez
@@freeflydenny great idea!! Thanks soooo much!!! I have 3 middle schoolers,1 high schooler, service dog, and myself. Times are tight outchea!! Thanks for ur info. My eldest wears a 15. I finally have skates for everyone but will piece together skates for the eldest out of an old shoe. Thanks for ur expertise!!!
What plate is that on the red shoe
Century NTS classics
7mm or 8mm bearings for the fibers ?
8
@@freeflydenny thank you man !
How much slide on fibers wheels would you get with a blue polished skate floor
Its like Ice!!!! Pretty awesome. Probably not a good choice to start out with fibers on that floor
@@freeflydenny I have tried wood wheels on it but it wasn't enough so I got fiber because wood wasn't enough
@@nolimitadrian3918 that works . Go for it!
@@freeflydenny OK I will already order from skate fanatics
thanks brother liked and subscribed God bless
Thanks Joseph , more to come for anyone I can help out !)
Great video, forgot about some wheels tho
Thanks, yeah I should have made it clear that there is many more but these are the only ones I had at the time of the vid.
tx
What are the wheels called
Clay sure grip Premier mini mac. Click the link
www.suregrip.com/product-p/prem.htm
Where are the vids of you actually skating? I want to see what kind of skills you have.
Hahaha I'll try and put something together next week
okay here is a glimpse at the end, mind you my 10 year old was filming lol ua-cam.com/video/1awr_3vot7E/v-deo.html
I purchased vnla luna fame indoor skates the wheel hardness states 95a/ 57m they stick to the floor i been to several rinks and it's the same , payed $224.00 for these skates very disappointed
All urethane will stick. Go with some wood wheels for a cheep slide option
So I can order some the ones that your son has
he has the mini macs www.suregrip.com/product-p/prem.htm
you may be able to find them cheaper
Thank you !!!
WATCH THIS VIDEO ON HOW TO MAKE VANS ROLLER SKATES THE EASY WAY "Kyle Walker"
ua-cam.com/video/1awr_3vot7E/v-deo.html
i used to love skating when i was younger, so i bought a pay of skates recently and i wear size 13 now....and the plates are a size 9 i believe because thats the biggest size of nylon ones riedell has i guess ..... they feel like the back wheels are not far enough under my heel and the front of my foot hangs way over the fronts...... if i go with a bigger plate will it be better or will i lose too much manuverablity ???? I don't want to waste close to 400 dollars on nice aluminum plates only to have it be a mistake.
A suregrip 9 plate will fit a 13 shoe. I put the plate all they way to the back of the shoe. I actually like that my foot hangs over the front wheels. Gives me more maneuverability for backwards skating. Call the skate shop that you are gonna buy the plates from for some advice. I personally get all my stuff from skates.com and I always call them To order and ask questions.
You can watch this video on how I mount MY plates.
ua-cam.com/video/1awr_3vot7E/v-deo.html
@@freeflydenny ever heard of a skate having "death wobble" like a motorcycle ....thats another thing they do, once i try skating to hard or fast in them..... i know thats usualy a sign of something loose but i think its the nylon plate not being strong enough for me.
@@chrisristau8803I tighten up your trucks a bit... Sounds like loose trucks. I personally use the metal plates my self because I have had the kingpin strip out the nylon plate in the past. Once that happens you cant tighten the trucks. I get that wobble when I'm on my front 2 wheels but never when the skates are flat. If you were to buy suregrip plates you shouldn't have a problem.
Mini- Mac Arnot clay
I'm here from the future and inflation is 8.3% and these wood wheels you speak of are now 79.99 and most urethane wheels are 100+ 😪
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the good old days
Wood wheels crew here 😎
Ig koby2020_
vibergalss are 90-10 but nice try 100 0 you cant skate
I should have said depends on the rink. Some are 100% some are 70% i count on trolls like you to point that out though
does it matter what plate you get for fiber wheels ?
@@NyMuhammad4 nope.. you can use any plates