Baseball in the 1960s, a breakdown
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What's extremely crazy to me about these old clips is how not a single fan is wearing a single piece of team apparel.
MLB didn't start selling licensed apparel until the 80's. In 1969, jerseys were also still made of heavy flannel.
It's better that way. Regarding jerseys, no one is on the team except the players.
That was before the magic money of merchandising was widespread.
@@OptimusPrimeribs Thanks for the most irrelevant opinion possible. Even if you're right, which would be wild (the theory that fans don't deserve to support players with quality, sponsored merch), there's no logic to back up how to make this a reality when players can make 20+ million a season and teams are also raking the bucks off jerseys.
I appreciate principles and baseball for baseball's sake (purity of competition and all that), but unless you try a little harder to think about context and audience, you're just an old man screaming at the clouds (even though your name suggests you were an 80s baby; you're not even old).
@@seymourglass26 Ouch. "Most irrelevant opinion possible". Lot to take on a Sunday night. Do I get an award or trophy?😆 I should have specified I was only talking about Jerseys, not other team clothing without players' names on them. I'll give a jersey pass to anyone under 18. I'm chill, not screaming.
More old baseball breakdowns please. You do them so well.
Yeah, need more lip reads from the olden days.
This might be his coolest video
Yes it’s super informative
The Dollop has done several podcasts on oldschool baseball, both the players and the game used to be absolutely insane.
Agree!! This was so great
this should be a weekly offseason thing. Old baseball breakdowns. It’s a cool thing to see.
totally agree, loved it. It's like that old baseball big fight video he did a while ago
baseball back then was so odd, 55 year old curly could hit a 600 yard bomb while drunk and nobody bats an eye
They say he was the greatest athlete alive.
1:09 🤣🤣🤣olé
And tbh this is why I don’t care if pro athletes use steroids, cause why are you watching the game to begin with? It’s to be entertained, and id much rather see guys throwing 110 left and right handed, hitting 900ft home runs and setting new records each year. Why not just level the playing field and let them use steroids if they want to so again it’s fair to everyone, they are adults they should be able to know the risks. And I feel we have saw that play out with the XFL because the level of competition is just completely different and it just dosent interest people. And having historic teams that have been around a hundred years helps alot.
@@michaeltaylor4271welp yeah its cool they use steroids and hits more homerun and more entertaining but...they dies younger and get more injured...so yeah its a better show but at what cost?!
@@michaeltaylor4271I completely agree. And the reality is they are all on some kind of steroid concoction that’s able to fly under the radar. So let’s just standardize steroid use in sports and pit our roided up guy against yours. The athletes will have longer careers with less frequent injuries and shorter recovery times, and the fans get to see the absolute best that humans can do.
7:14 If this was an 80s sitcom, Yogi Berra is getting the special guest applause from the studio audience.
It's funny that despite how different this is, it feels a lot more familiar than if you looked at any other sport from back then. I guess that says something about the traditionalism of baseball
Baseball is such a fantastic sport. Like soccer
Minus the fact you can have a 20 minute argument over the same call with an umpire.
Now a days you can't even say something to yourself when walking away.
The traditionalism, and the general lack of athleticism :P
I was thinking the same thing. The only things that would seem odd are the different pitchers wind ups, the hard slides into base without a fight and the lack of any big screen to entertain you between innings.
@@CubeInspector it was the postseaon they would routinely let it go in those days....regular season he and weaver get tossed
At 5:12 they’re walking perfectly in sync and it’s kinda mesmerizing
I noticed that too! The orange leg stirrups make it so noticeable.
Lol can't unsee 😂
I was thinking Frank was like Earl's shadow!!! I'm guessing that Frank thought, NO WAY I'm missing out on a word of what Earl is gonna give the ump!! Had to be a treat to play for Weaver and listen to his profane rants!
I played for Bob Shaw in the early 2000’s for Jupiter Post 271. As an on deck batter he taught us to always take a knee. He said back in the day if you stood up in the on deck circle fans would heckle you. Especially in Yankee stadium. He told us the fans came to watch Mickey hit, and it was a sign of respect to take a knee so you don’t obstruct the view of the people behind you.
I also imagine it is an old school tactic believed to help calm down a hitter before they go into the box. Helps them lower their heart rate and to focus more on the pitcher. Back in those days they were always about the basics and over simplification of the game. When it was game time, no more need for extra practice swings or excess warm up throws. Game time is all about the moment, and saving all your energy and power for when it matters most. No wasted energy before stepping in the box or walking onto the mound. RIP BOB SHAW. A true legend in Palm Beach and Jupiter area. He is greatly missed..
The 'old-school' Umpire chest guard is so weird to see. It looks like they cut an old mattress into the shape of a shield for the umpire to stand behind. 🤣
Damn! I just noticed that. Looks crazy!
Right how they had to carry it around
was just in the ALn at this point. was American leauge and natinol leauge umps. the didn't wear the outside v protector at this point in the NL. big deal? it made the k zone different. they called the high strike in the AL the wide strike in the NL😁 because of the big outside protector , made thier line of sight higher😁 now you know🤷♂️
All of us ex little league umps know about that. You have a 9 year old throwing 45 mph and somehow that dang ball always hits where the protector wasn’t.
@@phillippropst3825 Yeah I was going to say the umps when I played little league in the 90's all wore these.
There's a reason we pay $20 for Boog's BBQ at Camden Yards. Boog is often out there shaking hands and signing autographs. That Orioles team was dangerous.
$20 for stadium food is CHEAP
We're dangerous now too. I wasn't around for the 70s and 80s days.
A starting pitching staff that was arguably the best ever.
Beat reporter to Jim Bouton: “How do you pitch to Frank Robinson?”
Bouton: “Reluctantly.”
~ _”Ball Four”_
"And how do you pitch to Frank Howard ?
Bouton: " I don't. I give him four way outside........"
The Mets sign man is a folk hero in NY. He did that bit from 1964 to 1981.
I don't remember what year, but he was in Shea on opening day and the first pitch was a ball, he flipped up the sign that said "Wait all next year!"
His name was Karl Ehrhardt, even has a Wikipedia page.
The guy with the signs in the stands is Karl Erhardt Mets superfan. He was at most if not all Mets home games in the 60s and 70s
You are truly a legendary fan when you are remembered half a century after the fact.
you’re a legend for knowing this
Anybody remember Cowbell Man from the Piazza era? I wonder if he still goes to met games. These fans deserve their renown.
@@chameleonicblu22 Yup I always see/hear at games
@@mookie7688 For what it's worth, my little brother was ball boy at an independent baseball team when I was a teenager and I still remember the names of the characters that would be at those games. We had the heckler who was too mean and not funny enough, the guy who'd get too drunk and you'd stop understanding his yells by the 4th inning, the guy who'd walk around selling beer and would change nursery rhymes to be about the beer he was selling. There were much fewer people at those games, and it was only 15 years ago, but still. Drove him to every game one summer since I got in free by being family and got to know some of the other fans pretty well. That is something that I think was a relic of the past even then, we went to real minor league ballparks when I was growing up and they didn't have that same vibe.
Love this content jimmy. A lot of us are fascinated by the history of baseball and your breakdowns bring it to life!
The uniforms of the players and the umps are fabulous. Love that the umps are wearing ties.
This was fantastic. Reading Earl Weaver's lips would be a rather colorful experience, even for a veteran sailor.
Nobody got ejected like Earl. Nobody. 🧡🖤
@@sorinholland4 Leo the lip was pretty good at it.
At 3:36, I never realized how much Boog Powell's swing looks like Bartolo Colon's.😅 But hey, that wild, no-holds-barred swat worked for him. The guy was a beast at the plate. Fun fact: Powell -- who is still alive, by the way, at 82 years old -- was the first person to play in both the Little League World Series and the MLB World Series.
I met Boog at his BBQ spot in Camden Yards not too long ago! He's awesome.
Boog looks like a taller Bartolo Colon.
Back when huge hitches in a swing were emulated by kids everywhere.
On deck batters started standing up when foul territory started disappearing causing a higher risk of getting hit by a foul ball due to less reaction time...
Okay but why were they kneeling to begin with
@@artemisspawnofzeus7732My guess is to conserve energy. You could be standing for several minutes waiting for your at bat. Probably would want your legs fresh as possible
That makes a ton of sense. Thanks for the insight!
Shea Stadium was a dual purpose stadiums as a lot of older stadiums were.
my initial guess was something to do with avoiding getting hit by fouls but it didn't make sense to me when I thought about it more. Super curious now so I'll do some research, or maybe someone will come in with a clutch comment.
The shoe polish incident is quite famous, with some stories having Mets' Manager Hodges indeed telling a player to quickly put polish on a ball so that it could be shown to the ump. Weaver later said it didn't matter, there was no way the Orioles were going to beat the Mets the way they played for those 5 games.
Weaver would fight for his team to the death, but wouldn't sugar coat a loss.
the ball clearly hits him anyways.
@@stevencooke6451 best kind of leader.
I love the idea that someone would polish their baseball cleats!
Weaver was a real one
Frank Robinson hitting nearly 600 bing bongs with that physique is something else. Aaron too, was not a monstrous dude. Incredibly impressive.
This is great stuff. Keep these coming.
Probably because pitches were coming in at 55mph back then
@MountainMan. Lol no they weren’t. You’re a moron
Bob Gibson would have a different opinion. 😉
It's all in the Wrist ..
@@davidporter671 Right and back then pitchers never worried about brushing hitters back with a high inside fastball either.
Bro - please keep doing these classic games. So fun to see legends of the game in really normal baseball situations. The footage isn’t half bad either, and you can still get a bit of lip reading out of it. Awesome.
Totally agree.. There’s something oddly wonderful about seeing Frank Robinson called out on strikes. Brings him to life.
Love the shorter shirt sleeves on the jerseys back then. I always thought that looked really cool.
Yogi Berra knew about the shoe polish thing. Something similar happened in Game 4 of the 1957 Series between the Yankees and Braves, and Milwaukee's Nippy Jones getting hit in the foot was kind of the turning point of the series.
Great video as always. Worth noting, the SS that Frank Robinson tried to take out at second with the hard slide was Bud Harrelson. He just passed away about a week and a half ago. RIP Buddy!!
So many of the people who played in that Series have passed, but watching these old films brings it all back-both Robinsons, McNally, Blair, Belanger, Etchebarren, Hendricks, Seaver, Harrelson, Charles, Agee, etc.
It’s funny, no reaction from Harrelson. Far different story when Pete Rose did it a few years later..
Boog Powell swinging has real Jim Thome energy
My God, that Boog Powell swing. A thing of beauty.
Please do like 1,000 more of these. This throwback breakdown is fantastic
Earl Weaver had a computer baseball game i saved up to buy in the 80's. It was awesome and way ahead of its time.
Earl Weaver Baseball was the best. I still have a copy. Now if I only had a computer with a 5.25 inch floppy drive 😂
Would love to play this!
@@eugenemcleer8407you can get a USB to 5.25 floppy reader, or better yet search 'Earl Weaver baseball emulator' on google.
@@sorinholland4same!
Almost as good as lee Carvelo putting challenge
Random trivia -- Dave McNally was perhaps the greatest athlete from Montana. For the longest time he was one of the only Montanans who played in the pros. We've had more since then, but, ask any old-timer in Montana and they'll tell you all about McNally.
That choreography as player and coach walk towards the ump to talk shit @ 5:12! Beautiful teamwork!
the most amazing thing is you found an example of an ump actually changing his mind on a call. i wasn't sure if that had ever happened in the history of the game.
Please do retro breakdowns at least once per week, I love this so much!
The quality content we all need
This was really great! I hope you do more historic baseball breakdowns!
The only time Joe West is sprinting is when the dinner bell gets sounded
That sign guy was a popular Mets fan. I remember him.
Back when the Umps had a back bone and the players were so unhealthy they had to move as slow as possible while not paying baseball.
😂😂 the alcohol at night and the speed pills for the hangover
that's what stood out most to me. The umps nowadays are soft as shit and have fragile egos.
@@brandondillman5841this comment offended angel hernandez.
I think they have back bone now but they have no respect which is a difference. people respect authority figures more in 1960's BUT also umps did things to deserve respect more than they do now like actually running to call a play or preventing fights between players by telling players to not do dumb things. I might even say that stuff about cops, more respected, more respectful. I could agree that umps now are softer and more ego driven.
I wouldnt say the ump here had a backbone given how quickly he made favors for one team and not the other lmao
That was so much fun!! Please do moire of these old school clips.
TY for really fun show. I always admire Frank Robinson MVP in both leagues. Thanks again!!
we love jomboy in this household
More of this. One of my favorite breakdowns
prime baseball in my opinion. nothing will ever beat it.
Jomboy. You might be the realest content creator on UA-cam. I barely have an interest in baseball and yet, when I watch your breakdowns I am completely transfixed. Thanks for providing such entertaining content. Cheers from Alfred, NY.
My mom went to that world series in New York when she came back to Kansas. She said your favorite players were rest in peace, Buddy Harrison because he looked like a kid out there amongst gaints and a little known Nolan Ryan because his fastball was just so fast and wild. She also brought back a pice of Sod that flew into her lap from the crazy fans that destoying the field.
That message at 0:10 made my heart swell up. Love ya, Jomboy! (And LFGM!)
As an older person, I loved this breakdown. It shows how much the game has really progressed. Thanks Jimmy
Progressed? Like the lack of fundamentals and sportsmanship? 😂
About 2018 I met Ron Swoboda in a bakery/ cafe in Corona Queens, while he was visiting from Florida. He mentioned the same thing to me about the shoe polish ball stressing that there was no proof that it was the same ball. He never made a direct admission but the tone of his voice indicated that it was a different ball.
Character counts for something. The manager who came out with the shoe polish ball was Gil Hodges. Everybody who knew Hodges would tell you the same thing: an absolute straight arrow, respected by all. He wouldn't cheat, and if anyone on his team tried to cheat, Hodges would have thrown him out of the game himself.
Hey Jimmy, that little message at the end of your disclaimer was awesome. Glad I've been able to help in my own little way over the years.
I really like this one Jimmy. Way to keep things interesting! I remember some of these things not all that long ago. I was taught to break up double plays, and always hit the catcher
Great screen caption at the beginning. I try to make sure to like every video... because I genuinely like every video! Me and my wife love watching weekly dumb and things you missed back to back for dinner, perfect entertainment. Thank you both!
I really really enjoyed this. And the footage you have is incredible quality. Would love to see more of these.
Please do more sleazy 70's baseball breakdowns and brawls like the one for San Diego 😂
Im pretty sure Jimmy did the San Diego brawl breakdown! He’s deep into the breakdown archives and you’ll find it
The San Diego-Atlanta brawl breakdown is my favorite! I re-watch it every few months.
R.I.P. Bud Harrelson. He was one tough little guy. I remember the time he had a fight with Pete Rose from Pete trying to give Bud a foot full of spikes on second, and a hockey game broke out! Lets Go Mets!
RIP Buddy. Dedicated his life to the Mets
More of these please that was great!
Please do more of these! Love these old school game breakdowns
The gratitude coming from Jomboy the past couple videos has really hit me in the feels. Thank you so much to the team that puts out quality content week after week. You guys are the best.
The shoe polish ball was one of those infamous moments in baseball history. I was six at the time and remember it well.
I love the written preamble at the start!
More of these please! This is great stuff to see and before most of our times if you're under retirement age. I remember hearing people talk about these moments when I was a kid. I think most baseball fans of today would find these old school breakdowns fascinating. The game has changed a lot over the decades. Great video as always!
I’m grateful for all your content but you just do baseball so well, it gives me chills
baseball is his bread and butter. I much prefer an old school baseball breakdown over a modern cricket breakdown.
Open dugouts without the fences and protection.
That was still the case well into the 90s. Pretty sure it didn't become universal with the fences until the early 2000s.
Keith Hernandez was still on one knee in the on deck circle. Last played in 1990.
Absolutely wonderful, would watch a billion more of these!!
Love this! That "coach" for the Mets was their manager Gil Hodges. Also - notice most of the guys in the stands were wearing suits!
I’d love to see old Earl Weaver, Bobby Cox lip readings!
How about Billy Martin?
Perfect dude. Love the old breakdown as well as the stuff I missed that I would’ve never seen anyway.
Really enjoyed this. Please do more!
Good stuff. More of this please. Helps get by the offseason
With how much archive footage there is, I'd love to see more old breakdowns like this.
This was amazing! More of these oldies please!
This is a good one Jomboy.
Keep ‘em come n.
I can’t imagine how often these guys were drunk or off a drunken stooper the night before back then lol
Maybe because they were popping amphetamines like candy.
My grandfather owned a bar in downtown Flushing at that time. Allegedly there was no shortage of Mets back in the 60s drinking to excess during the season, especially those early, worst team in Baseball years of 64 to say 68. Quite a different time indeed!
@@teejay3272 Lol dude I just recently learned about 'bennies' (benzedrine pills) and how popular and commonly used they were.
And then cocaine use took over the league, apparently it was everywhere.
while we are here- thanks for giving us this cool insights and videos for our brains. big love to you Jom. thanks for getting me through my day to day. couldn’t do it without you guys at JM.
Well done. We need more of these breakdowns!
No, JomBoy, thank you! Such a nice take on sports coverage. I've been sharing with anybody that I think it would appeal to. Love what you guys are doing.
The shoe polish thing was real. Shoes were black and they were polished. And while middle infielders needed to protect themselves at second, so did runners. The thinking at the time was you don't change your throw to first if the runner is in the way. You drilled them. But something that's been swept under the rug is the amount of Bennies these guys were taking. Accessible in every clubhouse. So different than today.
“Ball Four” caused a big controversy when it came out. Jim Bouton wrote about drug and alcohol use, including the infamous “leaded” (with greenies) and “unleaded” coffee pots. Much of it seems quaint today, now that players basically tell us about their own bad behavior all year round, for free
Can't believe some player tosses some ball to the ump who reverses his own call because this ball has some polish on it. Jimmy's so right, an ump of today would require documentation of chain of custody before considering any such possible evidence.
@@BuildHousing You're right. That book was a big deal. Pulling back the veil was not how things were done then.
Earl Weaver was amazing. My dad and I met him at a photo/signing event when I was like 10 or 11. I think it was for the "93 all star game.
My dad and I were both lifetime Maryland residents, but for some reason I was wearing a Florida Marlins hat. Who the hell knows why, I think it was their expansion year and I just liked the colors. As we shook hands, Earl goes "Marlins?" He continued to give me a hard time about it as we set up for the photo, during the photo, waiting for the print, and while he signed it. As he handed me the autographed photo of us alongside my Dad, who had just met one of his heroes, he simply said "get yourself an Orioles hat, kid" and that was it.
He was 63 at the time, but seemed like the oldest, gruffiest man I had ever seen. He went on to live another 19 years. His argument with Bill Haller is legendary.
This is awesome and I learned a good amount from this throwback breakdown. Shoe polish proving that a batter got hit? Crazy how the game changes.
Loved this. Please do more of these old games
Umps can actually see balls hit into the outfield better when they don't run hard toward them. A number of umps who had written books have mentioned this. They say that it is easier to focus on that small ball when their eyes aren't jiggling during a run.
would love more old footage breakdowns, this was great!
absolutely stellar--love this one!
This is amazing. More please man. Love this
Just casually showing Yogi Berra was so unexpected but cool as hell.
This was great. More old school observation videos would be amazing
More of this! Great video and all the oddities are fun to discuss.
Great video, dude! I'd love to see more like this.
look at that crowd! suits, ties and top hats! people putting on their sunday best for the games!
Yes, Jimmy. Do more!!!
love these old breakdowns, keep 'em coming!
Please do more videos of past events like this, it's awesome
This was fantastically entertaining, please do more of this. Well done Jimbodini.
I love the old shit, Jimmy, bring it on!
The pushing him off the bag is hilarious 😂
That first base ump is giant!!
0:10 Do yourself a favor and pause here and actually read.
Love these guys. Jomboy is one of the best things to happen to baseball commentary since UA-cam. If not the best.
Please keep doing what you do!
As a baseball ground keeper the condition of that field is kind of funny
In '69, the Mets shared Shea Stadium with the NY Jets.
They didn't have the tech back then that makes your job easier now...
Ah the good ol’ shoe polish ball switcharoo 😂 7:41
0:09 gold. Thank you! Great content. All around fun and decent human beings. Keep doing what you're doing. Cheers 🍻
More retro breakdowns please this was amazing