its cause all the reviews are for when it was priced at 600$, and at that price it was not worth it. you could get the extreme model for 100$ more, but now the diffrence is 300$ its well worth it,, i initially wanted to purchase a steam deck 512gb, but a little while later came the steam deck OLED version so i wanted to go fro that one instead, then my friend said wait for cyber monday maybe something might come up and sure it did, z1 and z1 extreme got price cut z1 for 400 and z1ex for 600$. now the steam deck was completly off the table at 550$, for 512 oled one, cause if you wanna save a buck you go for z1 and if you want performance you go with z1ex. and i went with z1 cause i have a PC already and i play alot of FC24 which is not posible on the Deck so it was a no brainer for me.
@@TheMrRadish its gonna be great for those who already have a decent PC, i personally missed alot of great games from way back in time for example ACIV Blackflag, being able to run those kind of game is all that matters to me.
I've been saying the same exact thing. I've been playing Gotham Knights, Starfield, A Plague Tale: Requiem, and quantum break with no issues on the z1 non-extreme
Yeah, I haven't seen too many positive ones myself either. Must be that price, It went back up to 599.....It's just not worth it anywhere over 449. $399 was great though! ^^
I’m buying a z1 in 2weeks I already have a steam deck in which I love but I wanna play madden24/25 n cod games I could dual boot the SD but I wanna leave it stocked and not tech savvy
@@antwanowens4013I just picked one up two weeks ago. Now that it normally runs 300 to $400 it's a much better purchase If I already had a steam library I would have gone with a steam deck but I haven't played any kind of PC gaming in like 20 years. So what I like about the Ally is how easy the Xbox app launches and I can transfer over certain games I already owned along with the majority of the game pass library available for install and not just cloud gaming. Although it does really well with cloud gaming on my network But it's running a lot of semi recent games at least pretty damn well. The oldest thing I have installed on it is Prey 2017. Otherwise I have games installed that released up to about last year. I'm playing Elden Ring with a nice frame rate, it's running Red Dead 2, Resident Evil 2 remake, Resident Evil 3 remake, Jurassic World evolution 2. And it's running Diablo 4 pretty well, that one however probably has the biggest noticeable dip and graphics from playing it on better hardware. But the compression of a smaller screen always helps that out Certainly way better than anything ported to my switch lol
Everyone speaks good about the z1 for this price, it is a beast... But if it is for the regular price 100 dollars less then the extreme model is not worthy... It's way better the extreme.
Nice to see a head to head comparison using real games, not just conjecture or benchmarks. UA-cam and Reddit are pretty much shitting on the non-extreme Z1 nonstop. The numbers you report for D4 are perfectly acceptable IMO (I plan to play D4 and Grim Dawn primarily). I'm awaiting the arrival of an open-box Z1 that I picked up for $339, and also a 512 GB Steam Deck OLED to compare side by side. Not even an iota of a clue as to which one I'll end up keeping, if either.
Congratz on the awesome deal you got there ;) I get why reddit hates on it, it's definitely not worth it at $599 or even $499......but come on at 399 or if you got it like us for $339 it's insanely good! I am curious if that oled steam deck will win out against the open box rog ally. Is the money saved worth it over the oled screen, extra battery, and pause/resume feature :o
Awesome video. Heres a tip for everyone who got the rog ally. DONT CARE ABOUT FPS. Its so much more fun to play if your only fps expectation is that it is playable.
Imo this is the handheld to beat for emulation. Open box (perfect condition) you can get this for $339, that's about on par with the Odin 2 base, and considerably cheaper than the Odin 2 pro, but this has access to Wii U/Xbox/PS3 and older pc games since it's an X86 device rather than Android which is software limited for the time being.
Hey bro I have a question I just got my opened box rog ally from bestbuy I also got it for $340 but I don’t know if mines is defective out of the box I’ve tried to charge the ally for several hours and when I unplugged it from the wall the thing turns off I’ve looked at the battery percentage and it’s at zero considering it was plugged in to charge for several hours do you know what’s causing this problem??
Yeah, yours might be defective. It should not be turning off as soon as you unplug it. Sounds like the battery is messed up or something. Good thing you can return it ^^ just let the guys at bestbuy know it has a battery issue since it won't charge. good luck ^^
I would really like for you do a benchmark on some AAA games please. It would be much appreciated because most people just shit on it for being released at all 😅. If it can run them at a solid 30fps that would be fucking awesome. Thank you 🙏
Yeah, sorry I don't have many AAA games, i'm usually just emulating stuff ;) But based on how it ran diablo 4 I'm sure it could run most triple AAA games at least 720p 30fps. I'd say for most games you'll be getting 2/3rds the performance of the z1 extreme at 25 watts and like 3/4ths the performance at 15 watts. so if you see a game running on the z1 extreme at 15 watts 1080p 60fps then you can expect 1080p 44 fps on that game.
How does COD run on it? I have a steam deck, do not feel duel boosting and have been thinking about the ally non extreme because it’s cheaper plus I’ve been wanting to play games I can’t play on the SD. Fortnite, warzone, destiny 2. Games like that.
When using in handheld on the z1e, armory crate and command center are amazing but when im docked i actually disable all asus services and strictly use ghelper to handle wattage and fans ( using smokeless umaf bios to allow ghelper run at a constant 43w when the intensive games need it)
How does the non extreme compare to the standard lcd steam deck in terms of performance? Been thinking of getting this unit and selling the deck to my brother.
Sadly I don't have a steam deck to test it out right now, but I think the steam deck beats it by a little bit at 15 watts maybe 10%. I would say only go with the z1 if you want windows over linux for whatever reason because performance of the z1 is not that different from the steam deck.
I love my z1, been able to game current gen games at 30-60fps depending on the settings. I even get better framerate on forza 5 than i did on the steam deck
Just manage to get a non extreme one for around 145eur trough signing a contract with my ISP, and got 2gbit download and 1gbit upload speed in the package for 37eur a month for the next 2 years. Have a PC for any more demanding games, so this thing should be great for emulation, indie and more casual games. Can't wait for it to arrive. Happy to see it can also handle diablo 4,intought it would struggle with it. I plan on using lossless scaling program from steam for fsr and frame gen, plan to heavily debloat windows and do any optimisation I can think of, so really should be good. Just wonder how deep rock galactic survivor runs on it.
they have 2 different purpose , if you wanna play " next gen " games for cheap the series s the best option but if u want a hand held then u can choose between this, z1 extreme variant/ steam deck, etc depends on your budget and availability in your area
This guy tried it on the z1 extreme, you can probably expect a little over half the fps on the z1. Maybe 60% the fps. ua-cam.com/video/GRf9MPAthoo/v-deo.htmlsi=uAmWyXs9YSuL6khL
@@antmo991 I mean I think it's worth it, but i'm the guy who also bought the z1 extreme for $699 when it was first released. the question is, do you think it's worth it? But yeah $260 is a great deal in my opinion lol
@@Kushalchemy I sold my extreme 2 days ago , got the legion go , super bright and bigger screen , now the ally’s screen is badass too so it’s kinda the same
No offense but you picked terrible games to review the performance. Should’ve tried Cyberpunk to see the full potential of the handheld this doesn’t really tell me anything. A mobile phone can run fortnite and other games you checked.
@@EyeNVNo1 nope I owned a steam deck and I have to say for me the legion go is better in every way it’s just a shame my ally lasted 4 days blew up my sd card and gave me 3rd degree burns
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Idk why everyone hating on the non extreme, this shit is a beast and plays lots of AAA Games 900p :15watts , 60fps +
if you mean ones from 2010 then sure
its cause all the reviews are for when it was priced at 600$, and at that price it was not worth it. you could get the extreme model for 100$ more, but now the diffrence is 300$ its well worth it,, i initially wanted to purchase a steam deck 512gb, but a little while later came the steam deck OLED version so i wanted to go fro that one instead, then my friend said wait for cyber monday maybe something might come up and sure it did, z1 and z1 extreme got price cut z1 for 400 and z1ex for 600$. now the steam deck was completly off the table at 550$, for 512 oled one, cause if you wanna save a buck you go for z1 and if you want performance you go with z1ex. and i went with z1 cause i have a PC already and i play alot of FC24 which is not posible on the Deck so it was a no brainer for me.
@@TheMrRadish its gonna be great for those who already have a decent PC, i personally missed alot of great games from way back in time for example ACIV Blackflag, being able to run those kind of game is all that matters to me.
I've been saying the same exact thing. I've been playing Gotham Knights, Starfield, A Plague Tale: Requiem, and quantum break with no issues on the z1 non-extreme
@@Informational_Tunezhave you try modern warfare 2 or 3 on non extreme?
Grabbed one at $299 new when it was on sale a few weeks ago. Super happy with it at that price. Plays GamePass cloud games very well.
Link please
Link please
It's good to play cloud gaming???
this is the first positive review I've seen of this unit
Yeah, I haven't seen too many positive ones myself either. Must be that price, It went back up to 599.....It's just not worth it anywhere over 449. $399 was great though! ^^
So u actually went and bought you one. Nice. Was waiting on this review to see how this stacks up
This is the first time I’ve seen someone speak positive about the Z1 I just picked one up for $300 that was a steal for me 😂
Link please
I’m buying a z1 in 2weeks I already have a steam deck in which I love but I wanna play madden24/25 n cod games I could dual boot the SD but I wanna leave it stocked and not tech savvy
@@antwanowens4013 I recommend the z1 extreme if you have the steam deck
@@antwanowens4013I just picked one up two weeks ago. Now that it normally runs 300 to $400 it's a much better purchase
If I already had a steam library I would have gone with a steam deck but I haven't played any kind of PC gaming in like 20 years. So what I like about the Ally is how easy the Xbox app launches and I can transfer over certain games I already owned along with the majority of the game pass library available for install and not just cloud gaming. Although it does really well with cloud gaming on my network
But it's running a lot of semi recent games at least pretty damn well. The oldest thing I have installed on it is Prey 2017. Otherwise I have games installed that released up to about last year. I'm playing Elden Ring with a nice frame rate, it's running Red Dead 2, Resident Evil 2 remake, Resident Evil 3 remake, Jurassic World evolution 2. And it's running Diablo 4 pretty well, that one however probably has the biggest noticeable dip and graphics from playing it on better hardware. But the compression of a smaller screen always helps that out
Certainly way better than anything ported to my switch lol
Everyone speaks good about the z1 for this price, it is a beast... But if it is for the regular price 100 dollars less then the extreme model is not worthy... It's way better the extreme.
love my non extreme runs everything great once dialed in. Good video 👍
True, I would have gone for that over the z1 extreme as well and saved some cash v.v
Same , everyone hating on the non extreme but this shit is a beast and plays lots of AAA Games 900p :15watts , 60fps +
I just bought my open box extreme at best buy for $370! I have ZERO regrets buying this beast of a pc
Nice to see a head to head comparison using real games, not just conjecture or benchmarks. UA-cam and Reddit are pretty much shitting on the non-extreme Z1 nonstop. The numbers you report for D4 are perfectly acceptable IMO (I plan to play D4 and Grim Dawn primarily). I'm awaiting the arrival of an open-box Z1 that I picked up for $339, and also a 512 GB Steam Deck OLED to compare side by side. Not even an iota of a clue as to which one I'll end up keeping, if either.
Congratz on the awesome deal you got there ;)
I get why reddit hates on it, it's definitely not worth it at $599 or even $499......but come on at 399 or if you got it like us for $339 it's insanely good!
I am curious if that oled steam deck will win out against the open box rog ally. Is the money saved worth it over the oled screen, extra battery, and pause/resume feature :o
Awesome video. Heres a tip for everyone who got the rog ally. DONT CARE ABOUT FPS. Its so much more fun to play if your only fps expectation is that it is playable.
Great and honest Review towards the z1 standard!
Kinda considering adding one of thess to my collection! Pretty crazy how affordable these things are right now
Have you been able to play games like Baldurs Gate 3, Star wars jedi survivor, MW3? On the Non extreme?
finally someone did it after price drop. my only concern is that if sd card reader fries like z1 extreme models in the past or its not an issue on z1
I reviewed the z1 extreme and other than some hardware issues it was a good device. For $399 i think this would be a steal.
Yes! \(o.o)/
Thanks Nice video, this open box deal is back on right now and I’m considering
Imo this is the handheld to beat for emulation. Open box (perfect condition) you can get this for $339, that's about on par with the Odin 2 base, and considerably cheaper than the Odin 2 pro, but this has access to Wii U/Xbox/PS3 and older pc games since it's an X86 device rather than Android which is software limited for the time being.
Hey bro I have a question I just got my opened box rog ally from bestbuy I also got it for $340 but I don’t know if mines is defective out of the box I’ve tried to charge the ally for several hours and when I unplugged it from the wall the thing turns off I’ve looked at the battery percentage and it’s at zero considering it was plugged in to charge for several hours do you know what’s causing this problem??
Yeah, yours might be defective. It should not be turning off as soon as you unplug it. Sounds like the battery is messed up or something. Good thing you can return it ^^
just let the guys at bestbuy know it has a battery issue since it won't charge. good luck ^^
Btw, even though the VRR is advertized as 48hz-120hz, it still has Low Framerate Compensation for anything lower than 48hz and is still very smooth.
I would really like for you do a benchmark on some AAA games please. It would be much appreciated because most people just shit on it for being released at all 😅. If it can run them at a solid 30fps that would be fucking awesome. Thank you 🙏
Yeah, sorry I don't have many AAA games, i'm usually just emulating stuff ;)
But based on how it ran diablo 4 I'm sure it could run most triple AAA games at least 720p 30fps.
I'd say for most games you'll be getting 2/3rds the performance of the z1 extreme at 25 watts and like 3/4ths the performance at 15 watts.
so if you see a game running on the z1 extreme at 15 watts 1080p 60fps then you can expect 1080p 44 fps on that game.
Ok thanks for the info 👍
How does COD run on it? I have a steam deck, do not feel duel boosting and have been thinking about the ally non extreme because it’s cheaper plus I’ve been wanting to play games I can’t play on the SD. Fortnite, warzone, destiny 2. Games like that.
How's it? Any update? Did you buy?
When using in handheld on the z1e, armory crate and command center are amazing but when im docked i actually disable all asus services and strictly use ghelper to handle wattage and fans ( using smokeless umaf bios to allow ghelper run at a constant 43w when the intensive games need it)
Might as well get a used Z1 Extreme for the same price for a Z1 or Z1 open box. Got mine for $400 barely used pretty much in new condition.
honestly at this point the rog allys are being given away with these low prices bro. Best deal in computers I've seen in a while 🗿
How does the non extreme compare to the standard lcd steam deck in terms of performance? Been thinking of getting this unit and selling the deck to my brother.
Sadly I don't have a steam deck to test it out right now, but I think the steam deck beats it by a little bit at 15 watts maybe 10%.
I would say only go with the z1 if you want windows over linux for whatever reason because performance of the z1 is not that different from the steam deck.
They should make another version called only z version which will cost only 100 dollars.
If they ever make a windows handheld for only $100 O.O amazing!
BRO AM I USED TO LOW FRAMES BUT HOW DOES THIS LITTLE THING GET 100+ FRAMES WHEN MY PC GETS ONLY 30 IM DEFINITELY BUYING A OPEN BOX ONE!
I love my z1, been able to game current gen games at 30-60fps depending on the settings. I even get better framerate on forza 5 than i did on the steam deck
Just manage to get a non extreme one for around 145eur trough signing a contract with my ISP, and got 2gbit download and 1gbit upload speed in the package for 37eur a month for the next 2 years.
Have a PC for any more demanding games, so this thing should be great for emulation, indie and more casual games. Can't wait for it to arrive. Happy to see it can also handle diablo 4,intought it would struggle with it. I plan on using lossless scaling program from steam for fsr and frame gen, plan to heavily debloat windows and do any optimisation I can think of, so really should be good. Just wonder how deep rock galactic survivor runs on it.
What about one for 200
Is this the normal and not extreme?
Its now 299.00 so i pulled the trigger on it and bought a 1tb ssd on Amazon
Should I get a rog ally z1 or a Xbox series s
they have 2 different purpose , if you wanna play " next gen " games for cheap the series s the best option but if u want a hand held then u can choose between this, z1 extreme variant/ steam deck, etc depends on your budget and availability in your area
@@danielcocom5728 what better the steam deck or the z1 (not the z1 extreme)
How does this do on Fallout 4?
This guy tried it on the z1 extreme, you can probably expect a little over half the fps on the z1. Maybe 60% the fps.
ua-cam.com/video/GRf9MPAthoo/v-deo.htmlsi=uAmWyXs9YSuL6khL
The Legion Go using the Z1 Extreme is totally worth it
Personally I like them smaller, but that big screen does look awesome ^^
The rog ally is better
Not for the price
No VRR kills the Legion Go for me.
$400 is a banger
Facts! v.v
@@MrJustek
You think it worth it for open box like new for 260$
@@antmo991 I mean I think it's worth it, but i'm the guy who also bought the z1 extreme for $699 when it was first released. the question is, do you think it's worth it?
But yeah $260 is a great deal in my opinion lol
I found one for 379 and at that price point I say that's worth it.
hmm wonder if it can play cod/apex
It can
@@dmdassowat what fps? I play on the z1 extreme but im debating getting a z1 instead and selling this one. I play apex and overwatch 2 mainly
My dude, clean your camera lens
I got one for 230 after taxes open box
Can the z1 run cod warzone?
Yes..i have no issues at all!
@@Godson2324 man I just returned the z1 and got the extreme yesterday damn I should have waited for your response
@@rickyazz529did the normal z1 run cod ? I have the z1 extreme but i want to sell it and get the z1
@@Kushalchemy if you have the extreme just keep it don’t downgrade, it will run tho but I bet it sucks unless you tweak it a lot
@@Kushalchemy I sold my extreme 2 days ago , got the legion go , super bright and bigger screen , now the ally’s screen is badass too so it’s kinda the same
No offense but you picked terrible games to review the performance. Should’ve tried Cyberpunk to see the full potential of the handheld this doesn’t really tell me anything. A mobile phone can run fortnite and other games you checked.
Yes.
The z1 extreme ally isn’t even worth it lol
Fair enough, windows handhelds aren't for everyone! v.v
Z1 Extreme goes really well with legion go. 8 cores 16 threads.
Steam deck owner spotted!
@@MrJustek Oh no I love my legion go!!
@@EyeNVNo1 nope I owned a steam deck and I have to say for me the legion go is better in every way it’s just a shame my ally lasted 4 days blew up my sd card and gave me 3rd degree burns