Lexus all day long. I'm the 2nd owner of 2002 ES300 with 185k miles. It has the same platform of the Camry. The amount of insulation/road silencing material is incredible. Plus my car has a strut brace and same non-folding back seat. In fact there is structural bracing behind the rear seat which makes it more solid. Whisper quiet, drives like new, especially with my new Michelin Defender 2 tires. As far as these 2 are concerned, for about 4K more the ES350 is worth it. The level of craftmanship, quality of materials is far superior than the Camry. The V6 is a proven a winner, super dependable. Cant go wrong with either, but for me im picking ES350.
I would go with Lexus all the way absolutely love the comfort that is on Lexus and a lot better quality then the Toyota we have our very first Lexus which is an 08 LS460 and we absolutely love ours great video
I have a 2024 ES 350 that I purchased a couple of months ago. It has the 12.3 inch touchscreen. I also have the Panorama Glass Roof which gives it a sleeker appearance. I am enjoying mine and I purchased it because I wanted the V6, and I know Lexus is about to get rid of it. It's super smooth on the highway.
I drive both vehicles and agree it's a toss up. The comfort on long drives is better on the Lexus. The highway long trip mileage I've gotten on the Lexus is 41 which is far above the EPA but the Camry gas mileage for local driving is twice as good as the lexus.
@RobertRothschild-r3p twice as good? I get easily 5l/100 km or less in suburban/rural driving. One trip around 50 km I ended up with 3.8 l/100 km. 2024 es 300h.
I wish I could have paid for the Lexus. The fewer trip to get fuel has been quite noticable in the new Camry. Comparing to my last sedan with a V6. I have heard other reviews comparing Camry to Lexus. Calling it Lexus like. I would not know. But I do know the 2025 Camry is a nice ride.
I bought the Camry XSE AWD. Toyota has the premier, tried and true Hybrid system. And there is plenty of luxe in the decked out XSE. No premium gas requirement and high mileage.
I can get a 2022 ES-350 Lux (under warranty) for less than a Camry XSE/XLE (especially with dealer add-ons) and apply the saving to gas costs. Also, the ES won't require a traction battery - ever (I keep my cars a looong time). My guess is that a 22 ES will be less to insure as well. I think the total ownership costs will be less with the ES for these reasons. I drove the Camry XSE and didn't like the stiffness/elevated noise levels due to the 19" wheels. I wish 18" (or even 17" were an option). The Camry was a bit more fun to drive, but the ES is ultra refined and luxurious. I'll probably buy a used ES for these reasons.
Yep my friend just got a 2022 es ulta luxury with 22k miles for about 42k. OTD was a little higher. They liked the Camry but preferred the luxury of a Lexus
I love Lexus but I'd give this one to the Camry. Cheaper, better fuel economy and almost the same comfort. Lexus does not have leather, Nuluxe is not leather
Thanks for this video! I have that same camry with all those added options plus a few more. I paid 45K OTD. I joined a Toyota group on Facebook and felt like crap because so many people said "you could get a Lexus for that price." I've never considered a Lexus because I assumed it was too expensive. However, after this video, I'm so happy that I have my Camry. I don't like that base Lexus. I love my hybrid. Plus, the screen on the Lexus is way too small for me, and a digital gauge is a must for me.
I have a 2025 Camry XLE AWD completely loaded. I haggled the dealer and paid $39k otd. I’ve had many Lexus and Toyota vehicles, and the luxury, tech, and nvh are much much closer than ever. However, the pricing is also creeping closer. Really enjoying my Camry, and the mpg is truly amazing.
You compared the top level Camry to a mid level ES. Equipment wise, an ES with the Ultra Luxury group would have been more apples to apples even though it cost more. Good information anyway. Thanks for putting it together.
Have to disagree here. When comparing cars most people are most likely comparing based on a price point they can afford. Apples to apples comparison would be a comparison of two cars of similar price, what do both offer for that price.
I bought a 2023 CPO Lexus ES350 with 7k miles because of the warranty 6 years unlimited miles bumper to bumper - the dealer experience - the V6 and the 8spd trans. My car has the premium package so has the big screen - folding mirrors - memory / heated / cooled seats - heated steering wheel - basically everything I need. IMO the luxury and ultra luxury are too expensive. I don't want a panoramic roof, nor heads up display. The Mark Levinson sound system I would like but not worth 10k price difference. The build quality is so solid I was actually shocked. Just close the doors or try to rock the car while sitting. That sold me! I will leave with this. I commute about 50 miles a day round trip and I am so relaxed in this car. It is not a sports sedan by any means, but who cares. That is not what it is designed to do. For what my needs are I don't think there is a better sedan out there for the price and quality. I highly recommend.
I'm glad that you like your car, and that your choice was right for you. But it's not true that the differences you named were the only ones between the Premium Package and the hlgher Luxury trims. In fact, you missed some of the biggest differences: 3 extra quietness features (chassis Performance Dampers, dual-pane front glass, noise-reducing wheels), plus the upgrade from vinyl to fragrant semi-aniline leather upholstery. Whether it's worth thousands extra is up to you, but it is more of a difference than you acknowledged here.
@@VWGTI123 I think you chose wisely. I took a long look at the Arteon's predecessor, the CC, years ago. Seeing its long-term problems makes me glad i passed.
Thanks! Im assuming you have a Lexus now. If so best of luck. Great cars for the money. Peace of mind and actually makes me drive more relaxed which is hard to explain. :)
That's the base ES. Small screen, no 360 cameras, no HUD, no adaptive headlights (perhaps not available in the US but nevertheless), no electrically adjustable / heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, sun shades etc.
Therefore this was the one trim level up from the loaded Camry. ES basically picks up where the Camry leaves off. Also this is the only ES my dealer has had in a long time. And this was the week I had a Camry press car. Gotta work with what I have
@@BrosFOURRSpeed EU specs are slightly different. You can only get both Camry and ES with the same 2.5 hybrid, no AWD versions. ES Ultra Luxury has several features not available in the US. Camry starts from 38 k€, ES from 55 k€. Since in the US there are much more options available, it's probably not a good idea to compare them directly, so sorry.
Waiting on the new ES design (we've owned two ES's and one LS in the past) that could debut next summer. In the meantime, we bought the 2025 Toyota Camry XLE. The Lexus exudes luxury. The new 2025 Camry, while not as luxurious, seems to have driving dynamics close to the Lexus ES's - very smooth (and much better than the 2024 Camry). The 2025 Camry is an excellent value.
I just bought a 2025 XSE fully loaded, from a 2020 Prius, what a nice difference. Im going to look at the Lexus Hybrid I do like the upgraded material, but this Camry is very nice in so many variations.
Both have a standard stereo and an optional upgrade stereo. As you'd imagine at the prices, the worst one is the Camry's standard system and the best one is the Lexus's upgrade system.
From what I reading, camry seems like better option in every way, besides if you must have better materials inside, some small differences in road noise besides that Camry better in every way. Cheaper, better technology, better platform for now (maybe es will be better in next generation)
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Might be, but for example in my country the difference between highest trim Camry and highest trim ES is over 20k (Camry is 47k) ES is around 70k. While Camry has even better technology package, similar quality interior, sure es has some better materials and more of them, but it does not affect driving or comfort since both of them have leather even if it's nuLuxe (or w/e it's called), and better road noise and possibility for more speakers (mark levinson instead of jbl). I mean I understand the argument that es has something extra in some departments, but so does Camry, including updated power-train . I would even have doubts about buying es if they were the same price but in no world it's worth 20k difference, at that point if money is not an issue it might just be better to splurge on LS and get everything including a toaster (a little joke here). Of course it's my opinion, but I found weird how a lot of people in comments said, that they would all go for es, when I don't really see the reasoning. I am planning to upgrade to ES (probably), when the new generation hits in a year or two, I just hope that the quality can match the price that time. They might just made a mistake, by making the Camry this good this time around 😆
Every single ES350 in the past few years by car reviewers have the larger 12.3 inch screen. It's actually refreshing to see the smaller screen because lots of people are on a $40-$45K budget.
The Ultra Luxury ES350 would be the model to compare with. We bought a 2024 Ultra luxury model. It has every option available on the ES350, and most of the accessory’s offered ! The lexus is a better car than the Camry.
I had a warrant Avalon Toyota. I've had three Alexis and I can tell you from my experience, your Lexus ES 350 and a card in the Avalon better ride better looking.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you do realize the build quality on the Lexus is a far different animal than the Toyota? I’m still watching your video but when you watch like the fellow from Automotive Press the engineer do the gap study and just shutting and opening the doors between the Camry and an ES and how much more solid sounding that action is on the Lexus. Then explaining the manufacturing differences like the Lexus having over twice the weld points and it goes on and on. The evidence is clear there is very much difference between the two
Obviously the Lexus is the next step up. But being Lexus/Toyota are part of the same company it's fun comparing there too similar cars. The ES picks up where the Camry leaves off and has the next step up in luxury. But lots of buyers are interested to see if it's worth spending more money for the Lexus. New Camry is a great choice and a loaded one in the low $40k range might be perfect for some buyers and they might not desire to spend more on the luxury version of the Camry, which is the ES. Depends on what people want
Lexus all day. V6, real transmission, faster, higher resale value, better build quality, proven reliability. This is just my personal opinion. Some may like the Camry due to excellent gas mileage, a few more bells and whistles, cheaper price.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Actual Lexus and Toyota are not the same company, Lexus is a luxury brand owned by Toyota. They operate completely independent of each other. They operate with different priorities and philosophies. You are going to get two different experiences between the cars, that is just the facts.
Das sind zwei super Autos Wer den Luxus eines Lexus nicht braucht kann zum Toyota greifen.Der Lexus ist ein Traum an Ruhe und Komfort.Eine Oase mit Feinster Verarbeitung. Eins,das wichtigste haben beide Gemeinsam; Das sind Autos die locker 15 Jahre und mehr fahren ohne ihren Fahrer auch nur einmal im Stich zu lassen. Technische Probleme? Es wird keine geben. 500000 Km? Denken sie an eine Million. Das ist noch Qualität die man in dieser Form nur von Autos bekommt aus dem Hause Toyota/Lexus
Toyota made a big mistake going away from the great 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, 8-speed automatic that got 40+ on a steady 65-70mph highway drive. I believe it is best to stay away from the Camry’s only option of a “hybrid” with CVT unless you’re going to lease the vehicle and get rid of it after three years. The Lexus at least has the 8-speed automatic and a non-hybrid engine. The 2023 Camry was the last “great” by Toyota in my opinion.
I didn't choose the hybrid, but the "three years" comment is a silly take. Toyota warranties the hybrid battery for 8 years or 100,000 miles. And there are Prius cabs in NYC that have rolled up 300,000 trouble-free miles on the original battery. Yeah, it's unlikely to go 20 years without a battery swap, but it's an excellent bet to go 10, and reliability surveys say those miles will be low-cost and trouble-free.
I have a 2012 Camry hybrid that I have never gotten anything close to the EPA claimed mileage. It is just 80,000 mi on it and it's starting to need the new hybrid battery replaced at a cost of $5,000. I don't want another hybrid it's not worth the money.
@@tonysterbenc so after 8 years OWNER replaces the battery on an already depreciated car? Nobody would buy a car at that point knowing THEY would have to buy a $5K (probably $10K 8 years from now) battery. Not a silly take, but a realistic one.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it actually doesn’t anymore. Toyota got rid of that option. It used to be an OPTION and Toyota got rid of it. Government controls cars now for political reasons, forcing car manufacturers to squeeze out every mpg possible to the extent of cheapening body frames and other materials used. It looks like Mazda and Kia still have the 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, real geared (non CVT) automatics. Buy them now before they too are gone.
but you should be comparing the camry xse with the lexus es350 fsport pack not the regular. The camry is top of the line but the es in the video is base 350.
@@Offensively-normal I just don’t have access to do that with dealership cars. I have to film during the day. Plus filming at night never comes across on camera well
I have a 21 es 350 f sport black line edition with the v6. Im keeping it forever. You are comparing a base es with a fully loaded camry. The higher trim es have the larger display and lfa speedometer. Mine also had the bolstered seats and fully loaded.
Hardly any sedans in the US market have that. Very few from Mercedes, maybe Audi, Bentley or Aston Martin. Vehicles on this price won’t have that ever.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Didn't know this was a "price" competition. I thought this was a question about which car you prefer? I prefer the Lexus ES 300h (sorry for that...)
So you chose an ES With a small screen to make it seem like there is no larger one? Just the 2GR FKS makes this a no brainer. The interior is much better material as well on the ES.
This was the only ES available to film. Kinda hard to be that picky and get 100% perfect specs to compare. This was the week we had a Camry for a press car. And this was the firs and only 2025 ES our dealer has even had
Toyotas exterior looks.....ugly from most angles. The only thing from camry i would take are the gauges and mavbe the improved hybrid system. Otherwise my es 300h is more than perfect
Now we are comparing a mainstream Toyota vs a luxury marque Lexus? We realize don’t we that luxury marque buyer gets that brand for the cache don’t we?
The Lexus ES literally picks up where the Camry leaves. Lexus/Toyota are the same company. So it's cool to see how these cars do stack up since the ES is practically the luxury version of the Camry. Fun to see if it's worth spending more money on the Lexus touch or save it and just stick with the loaded Camry
Compare the ES Ultra Luxury 350 to the Camry XSE. Then you will see the difference. Two whole different cars. That Camry is top of the line, that Lexus is NOT.
True, but... The tester explains above that this base ES was all he could get his hands on. And, arguably, this makes for a more level price comparison, so it's a relevant comparison for some buyers.
Yeah, I mentioned that..this wasn’t a trim to trim comparison..when the dealer only has 1 ES and I only have the Camry for 5 days, I work with what I have..
What school did ALL the car reviewers attend that teaches to repeatedly say "as well" at the end of every sentence even though it is never used correctly? How much is the tuition there? Where is it located? Just curious...
Lexus all day long. I'm the 2nd owner of 2002 ES300 with 185k miles. It has the same platform of the Camry. The amount of insulation/road silencing material is incredible. Plus my car has a strut brace and same non-folding back seat. In fact there is structural bracing behind the rear seat which makes it more solid. Whisper quiet, drives like new, especially with my new Michelin Defender 2 tires. As far as these 2 are concerned, for about 4K more the ES350 is worth it. The level of craftmanship, quality of materials is far superior than the Camry. The V6 is a proven a winner, super dependable. Cant go wrong with either, but for me im picking ES350.
thanks for sharing!
Past ES were based on the Camry. This ES was based on the bigger Avalon, so there is still better backseat room in the ES.
yeah it's the next step up. But the ES picks up where the Camry leaves off in price. So it's the best way to go up from the Camry
I would go with Lexus all the way absolutely love the comfort that is on Lexus and a lot better quality then the Toyota we have our very first Lexus which is an 08 LS460 and we absolutely love ours great video
A Japan built Toyota will be better than an American/Canadian built Lexus.
@@djplonghead5403 Both cars are assembled in Kentucky 🤣😂.
@@jackfrost99 I know. I am talking about other models.
Lexus IS Toyota. Quality is the same.
CAmry on 16 inch tires looks like crap but the drive is very comfortable.
I have a 2024 ES 350 that I purchased a couple of months ago. It has the 12.3 inch touchscreen. I also have the Panorama Glass Roof which gives it a sleeker appearance. I am enjoying mine and I purchased it because I wanted the V6, and I know Lexus is about to get rid of it. It's super smooth on the highway.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthe fully loaded Camry should have been vs an ES 350 Ultra luxury
ES350 is clunky during acceleration
I drive both vehicles and agree it's a toss up. The comfort on long drives is better on the Lexus. The highway long trip mileage I've gotten on the Lexus is 41 which is far above the EPA but the Camry gas mileage for local driving is twice as good as the lexus.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah tough call!
@RobertRothschild-r3p twice as good? I get easily 5l/100 km or less in suburban/rural driving. One trip around 50 km I ended up with 3.8 l/100 km. 2024 es 300h.
I wish I could have paid for the Lexus. The fewer trip to get fuel has been quite noticable in the new Camry. Comparing to my last sedan with a V6. I have heard other reviews comparing Camry to Lexus. Calling it Lexus like. I would not know. But I do know the 2025 Camry is a nice ride.
The 2025 Camry is a solid choice for sure. Can't go wrong. The hybrid is super efficient. Lexus adds a nice luxury touch tho
I bought the Camry XSE AWD. Toyota has the premier, tried and true Hybrid system. And there is plenty of luxe in the decked out XSE. No premium gas requirement and high mileage.
Glad you enjoy it!
ES take regular
I can get a 2022 ES-350 Lux (under warranty) for less than a Camry XSE/XLE (especially with dealer add-ons) and apply the saving to gas costs. Also, the ES won't require a traction battery - ever (I keep my cars a looong time). My guess is that a 22 ES will be less to insure as well. I think the total ownership costs will be less with the ES for these reasons. I drove the Camry XSE and didn't like the stiffness/elevated noise levels due to the 19" wheels. I wish 18" (or even 17" were an option). The Camry was a bit more fun to drive, but the ES is ultra refined and luxurious. I'll probably buy a used ES for these reasons.
Thanks for sharing! Insurance depends on multiple factors with the buyer, not necessarily the vehicle.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I just checked with my insurance company: both premiums are identical (22 ES vs 25 Camry)
Yep my friend just got a 2022 es ulta luxury with 22k miles for about 42k. OTD was a little higher. They liked the Camry but preferred the luxury of a Lexus
I love Lexus but I'd give this one to the Camry. Cheaper, better fuel economy and almost the same comfort. Lexus does not have leather, Nuluxe is not leather
Both good options just depending on what you want.
@MR3DDev my es ul most certainly has leather
@MR3DDev my last tank on esh was 46.12 mpg or 5.1 l per 100k. On 18 inch wheels
Camry won't do much better.
@@robertduklus6555 what year? If it says Nuluxe you got zero leather.
@MR3DDev if I said I have leather that means I have leather. Educate yourself about trims available in canada and usa
Thanks for this video! I have that same camry with all those added options plus a few more. I paid 45K OTD. I joined a Toyota group on Facebook and felt like crap because so many people said "you could get a Lexus for that price." I've never considered a Lexus because I assumed it was too expensive. However, after this video, I'm so happy that I have my Camry. I don't like that base Lexus. I love my hybrid. Plus, the screen on the Lexus is way too small for me, and a digital gauge is a must for me.
Thanks for sharing! Both are nice, just depends on the features you like more!
I have a 2025 Camry XLE AWD completely loaded. I haggled the dealer and paid $39k otd. I’ve had many Lexus and Toyota vehicles, and the luxury, tech, and nvh are much much closer than ever. However, the pricing is also creeping closer. Really enjoying my Camry, and the mpg is truly amazing.
You made the better choice, love your Camry :) Best car I owned so far
I like the Camry, but 45k is wild.
You could’ve got a lightly used Lexus at that price but not brand new. New it’s about 60k
You compared the top level Camry to a mid level ES. Equipment wise, an ES with the Ultra Luxury group would have been more apples to apples even though it cost more. Good information anyway. Thanks for putting it together.
Yeah, this was the only ES on the lot! They don’t even have any now! But a lot of people are curious about both for sure!
Have to disagree here. When comparing cars most people are most likely comparing based on a price point they can afford. Apples to apples comparison would be a comparison of two cars of similar price, what do both offer for that price.
Love love the camry!
It’s a great option!
Imo one overlooked feature Lexus has over Toyota is sound dampening and smoother suspension. You will feel and hear more road noise with Toyota.
Yeah it definitely rides a bit nicer for sure
Did I miss the better options on the Camry / Lexus….Thanks
good report ❤️
Both are great options!
The only thing I want Toyota to add to the Camry is adding air condition controls for the back seat people.
That would be nice!
Not happening... you have to go for a Lexus
it's happening in Saudi Arabia, here we have Camry Lumiere is a version that includes rear air conditioning control and reclining back seats.
I bought the Camry XSE Premium plus package White Pearl 41800 MSRP delivery and tax. :) I love this Car so much fun and very Nice indeed. Happy 62
Nice! Glad you enjoy it!
I bought a 2023 CPO Lexus ES350 with 7k miles because of the warranty 6 years unlimited miles bumper to bumper - the dealer experience - the V6 and the 8spd trans. My car has the premium package so has the big screen - folding mirrors - memory / heated / cooled seats - heated steering wheel - basically everything I need. IMO the luxury and ultra luxury are too expensive. I don't want a panoramic roof, nor heads up display. The Mark Levinson sound system I would like but not worth 10k price difference. The build quality is so solid I was actually shocked. Just close the doors or try to rock the car while sitting. That sold me! I will leave with this. I commute about 50 miles a day round trip and I am so relaxed in this car. It is not a sports sedan by any means, but who cares. That is not what it is designed to do. For what my needs are I don't think there is a better sedan out there for the price and quality. I highly recommend.
Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad that you like your car, and that your choice was right for you. But it's not true that the differences you named were the only ones between the Premium Package and the hlgher Luxury trims. In fact, you missed some of the biggest differences: 3 extra quietness features (chassis Performance Dampers, dual-pane front glass, noise-reducing wheels), plus the upgrade from vinyl to fragrant semi-aniline leather upholstery. Whether it's worth thousands extra is up to you, but it is more of a difference than you acknowledged here.
All true. Is just wasnt worth the 10k difference imo. Im 3k miles into ownership and beyond satisfied coming fron a 2023 VW SEL Arteon Premium.
@@VWGTI123 I think you chose wisely. I took a long look at the Arteon's predecessor, the CC, years ago. Seeing its long-term problems makes me glad i passed.
Thanks! Im assuming you have a Lexus now. If so best of luck. Great cars for the money. Peace of mind and actually makes me drive more relaxed which is hard to explain. :)
I would go Camry as well. Much better mpg and this one is loaded and in my opinion a better design.
Yeah it has a lot going for it! Very nice interior too
No V6 on Camry.
Lexus ES all the way 🔝🎾🏌️
Who cares about mpg? 😂
@@ExecuteBrandon Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side today.
@@ExecuteBrandon with these types of vehicles, that’s an important factor…if you don’t care about mpg, you buy a sportscar or truck.
Good review. The ‘cut-out’ is called a ‘pass through’.
Same thing. I said for items to go through.
That's the base ES. Small screen, no 360 cameras, no HUD, no adaptive headlights (perhaps not available in the US but nevertheless), no electrically adjustable / heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, sun shades etc.
Therefore this was the one trim level up from the loaded Camry. ES basically picks up where the Camry leaves off. Also this is the only ES my dealer has had in a long time. And this was the week I had a Camry press car. Gotta work with what I have
@@BrosFOURRSpeed EU specs are slightly different. You can only get both Camry and ES with the same 2.5 hybrid, no AWD versions. ES Ultra Luxury has several features not available in the US. Camry starts from 38 k€, ES from 55 k€. Since in the US there are much more options available, it's probably not a good idea to compare them directly, so sorry.
Waiting on the new ES design (we've owned two ES's and one LS in the past) that could debut next summer. In the meantime, we bought the 2025 Toyota Camry XLE. The Lexus exudes luxury. The new 2025 Camry, while not as luxurious, seems to have driving dynamics close to the Lexus ES's - very smooth (and much better than the 2024 Camry). The 2025 Camry is an excellent value.
I just bought a 2025 XSE fully loaded, from a 2020 Prius, what a nice difference. Im going to look at the Lexus Hybrid I do like the upgraded material, but this Camry is very nice in so many variations.
Thanks for sharing! The Camry was great to drive for the week!
Almost hard to want the Lexus when the Camry is so nice!
@ I agree. Best car yet for me. I love driving it. The insurance is high though.
@@Heyitsyourfriendrobert interesting, it’s shouldn’t be much at all, but lots of factors go into that.
How's the ride comfort and cabin noise between them?
About the same, I thought I talked about that, but they aren’t much different.
Which one has the better audio system and sound?
I didn’t test that. I also don’t listen to music loud enough for it to matter so for me they would both be the same.
Both have a standard stereo and an optional upgrade stereo. As you'd imagine at the prices, the worst one is the Camry's standard system and the best one is the Lexus's upgrade system.
Which car has the best seats as far as comfort?
Both seem pretty nice. Lexus will be a tad more comfortable
Where do you affix the front license plate?
There is probably spot in the mesh with holes for it. We have don't have front plates so I'm not too sure
Lexus offers a bracket that mounts to the grille.
Lexus is far better car if you want quality, comfort and superb fit and finish. The Camry is an efficient family car.
Both are honestly the same, you’ll get that with both.
Lexus is Toyota built with the same highly skilled associates paired with the same Robots that build the Camry.
From what I reading, camry seems like better option in every way, besides if you must have better materials inside, some small differences in road noise besides that Camry better in every way. Cheaper, better technology, better platform for now (maybe es will be better in next generation)
Just depends on which one you like, I wouldn't say the camry is better, but for less money, it's a great option.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Might be, but for example in my country the difference between highest trim Camry and highest trim ES is over 20k (Camry is 47k) ES is around 70k. While Camry has even better technology package, similar quality interior, sure es has some better materials and more of them, but it does not affect driving or comfort since both of them have leather even if it's nuLuxe (or w/e it's called), and better road noise and possibility for more speakers (mark levinson instead of jbl). I mean I understand the argument that es has something extra in some departments, but so does Camry, including updated power-train . I would even have doubts about buying es if they were the same price but in no world it's worth 20k difference, at that point if money is not an issue it might just be better to splurge on LS and get everything including a toaster (a little joke here). Of course it's my opinion, but I found weird how a lot of people in comments said, that they would all go for es, when I don't really see the reasoning. I am planning to upgrade to ES (probably), when the new generation hits in a year or two, I just hope that the quality can match the price that time. They might just made a mistake, by making the Camry this good this time around 😆
You picked a car with a small screen. Should’ve picked a different trim level.
This is what I had to work with.
It's what he had to work with, get a grip
The larger screen would have given the ES an even bigger cost difference just making the Camry seem like a better deal.
Every single ES350 in the past few years by car reviewers have the larger 12.3 inch screen. It's actually refreshing to see the smaller screen because lots of people are on a $40-$45K budget.
@@Damage_Inc Very true comment! This was a fair comparison.
The Ultra Luxury ES350 would be the model to compare with. We bought a 2024 Ultra luxury model. It has every option available on the ES350, and most of the accessory’s offered ! The lexus is a better car than the Camry.
Glad you enjoy it!
Does the Lexus have double pane windows?
I would think so. I believe its available on the Camry too
The Luxury and Ultra Luxury trims have them on the front door windows.
@ Thank you for the reply.
@@cyih8u Glad to help.
All vehicle safety glass is like double pane back from the 70s I believe. Are they doing something different now?
I got a older lexus. 2018 is 300 v6 now but the new carmry is a nice car too .
Oh cool. New one is nice for sure!
I had a warrant Avalon Toyota. I've had three Alexis and I can tell you from my experience, your Lexus ES 350 and a card in the Avalon better ride better looking.
Thanks for checking out this review!
There’s no comparison. It’s like comparing Burger King to Cheesecake Factory
Interesting, which is which? Because they aren’t that different..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you do realize the build quality on the Lexus is a far different animal than the Toyota? I’m still watching your video but when you watch like the fellow from Automotive Press the engineer do the gap study and just shutting and opening the doors between the Camry and an ES and how much more solid sounding that action is on the Lexus. Then explaining the manufacturing differences like the Lexus having over twice the weld points and it goes on and on. The evidence is clear there is very much difference between the two
Obviously the Lexus is the next step up. But being Lexus/Toyota are part of the same company it's fun comparing there too similar cars. The ES picks up where the Camry leaves off and has the next step up in luxury. But lots of buyers are interested to see if it's worth spending more money for the Lexus. New Camry is a great choice and a loaded one in the low $40k range might be perfect for some buyers and they might not desire to spend more on the luxury version of the Camry, which is the ES. Depends on what people want
Lexus all day. V6, real transmission, faster, higher resale value, better build quality, proven reliability. This is just my personal opinion. Some may like the Camry due to excellent gas mileage, a few more bells and whistles, cheaper price.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Actual Lexus and Toyota are not the same company, Lexus is a luxury brand owned by Toyota. They operate completely independent of each other. They operate with different priorities and philosophies. You are going to get two different experiences between the cars, that is just the facts.
Das sind zwei super Autos
Wer den Luxus eines Lexus
nicht braucht kann zum
Toyota greifen.Der Lexus
ist ein Traum an Ruhe und
Komfort.Eine Oase mit
Feinster Verarbeitung.
Eins,das wichtigste haben
beide Gemeinsam;
Das sind Autos die locker
15 Jahre und mehr fahren
ohne ihren Fahrer auch nur
einmal im Stich zu lassen.
Technische Probleme?
Es wird keine geben.
500000 Km?
Denken sie an eine Million.
Das ist noch Qualität die
man in dieser Form nur
von Autos bekommt aus
dem Hause Toyota/Lexus
Both good options!
Both of them need a much better looking front end/grill real bad
Looks are subjective, but tons of people like the style.
@ Possibly. But I’m willing to bet the majority of people don’t like the front end design of the Camry in particular. Just sayin..😉
Toyota made a big mistake going away from the great 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, 8-speed automatic that got 40+ on a steady 65-70mph highway drive. I believe it is best to stay away from the Camry’s only option of a “hybrid” with CVT unless you’re going to lease the vehicle and get rid of it after three years. The Lexus at least has the 8-speed automatic and a non-hybrid engine. The 2023 Camry was the last “great” by Toyota in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing, just depends on what the buyer wants.
I didn't choose the hybrid, but the "three years" comment is a silly take. Toyota warranties the hybrid battery for 8 years or 100,000 miles. And there are Prius cabs in NYC that have rolled up 300,000 trouble-free miles on the original battery. Yeah, it's unlikely to go 20 years without a battery swap, but it's an excellent bet to go 10, and reliability surveys say those miles will be low-cost and trouble-free.
I have a 2012 Camry hybrid that I have never gotten anything close to the EPA claimed mileage. It is just 80,000 mi on it and it's starting to need the new hybrid battery replaced at a cost of $5,000. I don't want another hybrid it's not worth the money.
@@tonysterbenc so after 8 years OWNER replaces the battery on an already depreciated car? Nobody would buy a car at that point knowing THEY would have to buy a $5K (probably $10K 8 years from now) battery. Not a silly take, but a realistic one.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it actually doesn’t anymore. Toyota got rid of that option. It used to be an OPTION and Toyota got rid of it. Government controls cars now for political reasons, forcing car manufacturers to squeeze out every mpg possible to the extent of cheapening body frames and other materials used. It looks like Mazda and Kia still have the 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, real geared (non CVT) automatics. Buy them now before they too are gone.
Road noise? Compare next time
I talked about that in the full reviews. Not much of a difference to talk about.
The Crown is the Avalon replacement. And I’d take a base Crown over the loaded Camry.
Yeah basically. However the ES picks up where the Camry leaves off in price. So it's a good luxury version of the Camry
but you should be comparing the camry xse with the lexus es350 fsport pack not the regular. The camry is top of the line but the es in the video is base 350.
Nice! These are super cool for sure! Very well rounded!
I wish you compared the triple beam es350 vs this camry
What? The headlights? I don’t have access to film videos like this at night.
You will. 358k. How many more do you need? 358k & 1. Ok I'm in.
Let's do night reviews. 😅
@@Offensively-normal I just don’t have access to do that with dealership cars. I have to film during the day. Plus filming at night never comes across on camera well
I have a 21 es 350 f sport black line edition with the v6. Im keeping it forever. You are comparing a base es with a fully loaded camry. The higher trim es have the larger display and lfa speedometer. Mine also had the bolstered seats and fully loaded.
Like I said, this is what I had to work with, only ES on the lot and I only had the Camry for 5 days.
Easy win. All new Camry. Topgun grannymobile #1 👍 👵
lol
It's the same crap apart from few small things. You mainly paying for name brand. Both slow. Lexus is 240 whp and camry is 170-190 whp
No one buying these really cares about horsepower. I know I mentioned them.
But the average Camry buyer doesn’t even look at that.
@ I agree with you
Is this an apartment or a car? What good is a comparison without how they both drive?
What do cars have to do with an apartment?
But both were driven in this video..
Does Camry XSE get memory seat buttons?
I can't remember. Maybe the XLE does
LEXUS & TOYOTA ARE 1 IN 2 VERSIONS.
Pretty much!
Why do both of these cars in the video do not come with power rear seat controls on the center armrest?
Hardly any sedans in the US market have that. Very few from Mercedes, maybe Audi, Bentley or Aston Martin. Vehicles on this price won’t have that ever.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah on a Lexus only an LS has that kind of feature
Yeah thats a top level option. Not going to find that in a $60k Lexus lol
@@BrokenAdam770 because it's the usa
Lexus ES Hybrid
Why?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Smooth and frugal - Let alone we can only buy the Hybrid version here in Europe 😘
@@planbparadise2046 “frugal”? The Lexus costs more.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Didn't know this was a "price" competition. I thought this was a question about which car you prefer? I prefer the Lexus ES 300h (sorry for that...)
@@planbparadise2046 what does “frugal” have to do with the comparison though?
Camry looks better
Looks are subjective, both have a nice look!
Say how tall you are. Important
5'10'', if I didn't mention that here, I did in the full reviews, but pretty sure I did in the back seats..
A little bit expensive, huh? 😂 Lexus is expensive mainly because of the badge. In Japan, they’re all just Toyota badges!
The ES picks up where the Camry leaves off in price. Not bad options
Es350 needs a redesign. Something new
Yeah maybe next year we'll see
You'll get your wish for '26.
So you chose an ES With a small screen to make it seem like there is no larger one? Just the 2GR FKS makes this a no brainer. The interior is much better material as well on the ES.
This was the only ES available to film. Kinda hard to be that picky and get 100% perfect specs to compare. This was the week we had a Camry for a press car. And this was the firs and only 2025 ES our dealer has even had
Without Avalon, you can choose Crown !
Yeah good choice too
Toyotas exterior looks.....ugly from most angles. The only thing from camry i would take are the gauges and mavbe the improved hybrid system. Otherwise my es 300h is more than perfect
Glad that's what you'd enjoy!
Now we are comparing a mainstream Toyota vs a luxury marque Lexus? We realize don’t we that luxury marque buyer gets that brand for the cache don’t we?
The Lexus ES literally picks up where the Camry leaves. Lexus/Toyota are the same company. So it's cool to see how these cars do stack up since the ES is practically the luxury version of the Camry. Fun to see if it's worth spending more money on the Lexus touch or save it and just stick with the loaded Camry
Compare the ES Ultra Luxury 350 to the Camry XSE. Then you will see the difference. Two whole different cars. That Camry is top of the line, that Lexus is NOT.
True, but... The tester explains above that this base ES was all he could get his hands on. And, arguably, this makes for a more level price comparison, so it's a relevant comparison for some buyers.
Yeah, I mentioned that..this wasn’t a trim to trim comparison..when the dealer only has 1 ES and I only have the Camry for 5 days, I work with what I have..
Thank you for listening and understanding!
your video is waste of time you should explain differnce between the driving the quite the comfort !!!!! you just waste my ttime for real
Pretty sure I went over all that…
What school did ALL the car reviewers attend that teaches to repeatedly say "as well" at the end of every sentence even though it is never used correctly? How much is the tuition there? Where is it located? Just curious...
Can you time stamp where I said that? How is that not used correctly?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Glad you defended yourself. I'm tired of all these self-appointed priggish grammar police all over the Internet.
Hey, that TOYOTA has the exploding glass-roof. That sucks! If you notice, Lexus won't do that to their customers.
What are you talking about?
Lexus totally Toyota garbage.
How’s Toyota garage if they own Lexus??