Ford 460 RV Surges, Runs Rough but Nothing's Wrong?

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  • This 1994 Ford E350 surges and runs rough when it warms up, but there are no codes, no clues, and no way to test the problem.
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  • @ve9aa
    @ve9aa Рік тому +294

    "and a big box on the back............................that you can p00p in" Classic Wes. I love it !

  • @greghansard357
    @greghansard357 Рік тому +384

    Frankly, I can't imagine anyone else opening that ECM and finding and repairing those capacitors. You never cease to amaze me Wes. Outstanding job!

    • @skelafeti
      @skelafeti Рік тому +18

      my thoughts exactly. 99.8% would replace the board when it really was a simple fix.

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 Рік тому +9

      He is a awesome person for figuring these things out

    • @ernieb2982
      @ernieb2982 Рік тому +11

      This reminds me of Mitsubishi driveability diagnostics: step 1, remove and inspect ECM and Tcm for failed caps.
      Please keep up the good work.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy Рік тому +8

      It's lucky the electrolytic fluid itself didn't ruin the board traces. Surprisingly few caps on there - I suppose the engineers at the time thought they were a possible weak point. My mind boggles however at how many 30-odd year vehicles there are out there, and the caps are just waiting to wreak havoc.

    • @dougr.6734
      @dougr.6734 Рік тому +14

      I don't know of anyone that has a "bolt bin" of every imaginable capacitor to repair boards with. Lol

  • @Studio23Media
    @Studio23Media Рік тому +97

    Videos like this are exactly why we watch, Wes. Watching you solve a difficult problem, and then do the repairs that nobody else would do is so awesome!

  • @johnlogan6268
    @johnlogan6268 Рік тому +153

    Awesome job Wes! But you were about three years too late to help me out. I had the same situation about 3 years ago in my 95 E350 cube van with same exact drivetrain and identical symptoms. I unfortunately did not have any fancy diagnostic tools to help me pinpoint the problem. I spent many days trouble shooting and replacing various "bad" components... basically chasing the first few things you had thought it was... I love your little sketches, lists and flow charts. It ran better every time I "fixed" something but idle was still horrible. After talking to everyone I knew about what it could be and relentless internet searching, I figured maybe the computer was bad. After seeing that it was not even available anymore and for some outrageous price I could send it out for rebuilding, I decided to open it up and found the leaking capacitors. No stores close to me on the North Carolina shore sell capacitors anymore(where is radio shack when you need them?) but after a search on ebay I found a guy selling the three caps as a kit. Replaced all three and ran better than when I bought it 20 years ago! The best part of this story is that during my internet search I ran across your youtube channel because of that old E350 based flatbed you were working on. I have watched every video you have produced since. I really appreciate all the information you have put out there for everyone. I also have that disease where if its broken and I cant figure it out, it bugs me so much that I spend way more time and money than it is worth to fix it... but I am happy... I think? Broke but happy. Oh well, I never liked paying bills anyways...

    • @ottoneidlinger4938
      @ottoneidlinger4938 Рік тому +5

      I’m glad you took the time to tell us about this experience. It’s the figuring out why, that make people like you and Wes great. Never give up.

    • @electrickal1
      @electrickal1 Рік тому +4

      Thats the spirit guys!! FixNshare, that way we get a warm feeling and keep hold of our hard earned a little longer fellas. 5*

    • @ChristianRaymondFilms
      @ChristianRaymondFilms 6 місяців тому

      Wow dude awesome dialogue. I have the same issues with my E350 Cube Van. I will look Into the capacitors, thank you for the insights and information.

  • @ScoobyMaxC
    @ScoobyMaxC Рік тому +140

    "...when I figure it out it makes me happy, but it typically doesn't make me money."
    I genuinely hope that your customers appreciate you Wes, I'd pay triple to live near enough to have you as my go to mechanic! Great diagnostic process, explanation, video, humour and outtro and it made sense to me. Thank you Wes 👍🏻.

    • @scottfranson4215
      @scottfranson4215 Рік тому +1

      Ya , I have paid triple,when I knew the mechanic was like Wes. They’ll stay a little long but when they know .they should be rewarded what’s happened to this Great America. I would think he was raised like this.

  • @Uncleroger1225
    @Uncleroger1225 Рік тому +107

    Wes, you got big ones! Not 1 in a 100 techs would mess with a PCM board. Good Job! I have some experience with early automotive electronic controls and it was almost never the PCM/ECM. It sure was this time. Thanks for sharing. You and South Main Auto are the only ones I see making drawings or consulting schematics. Keep it cup!

    • @keithrimmer3
      @keithrimmer3 Рік тому +9

      And pine hollow

    • @billmalec
      @billmalec Рік тому +4

      You beat me to it

    • @dave1135
      @dave1135 Рік тому +6

      Back then, the circuit boards in the ECMs were reliable, unless it had a cracked trace or the board warping and contacting the case, we found these by doing a "tap test". Nowadays, most caps over 10 years old are failing, it's not just ECMs, but anything using them. Old home PCs are especially prone to it, I've had several I've had to recap

  • @communityminibus321
    @communityminibus321 Рік тому +99

    That is hugely impressive. A car mechanic who not only knows what a capacitor is, but can find one of the right value and voltage rating from his bits and pieces drawers. Respect!!!

  • @rdbrnr86gt
    @rdbrnr86gt Рік тому +28

    Having been working on EEC-IV Fords for half my life, I was saying to the screen many times "bad caps in the EEC" You did a great job of troubleshooting this problem though as well as the repair. Also, for Ford stuff of this era, look up "TMoss Porting" if you haven't already. He's got a lot of documents on his site about the Ford EEC controls of this era and how they work written by some very knowledgeable people.

    • @trialsted
      @trialsted Рік тому

      Great source of information, thanks!

    • @BobTheBreaker9
      @BobTheBreaker9 5 місяців тому

      Is it really that common of a problem?? I have fired the parts cannon on my truck with issues like this...now I'm thinking it couldn't hurt to look in the computer

  • @montanadan2524
    @montanadan2524 Рік тому +239

    As a electronics engineer facilty assistant who repaired the school's lab equipment, I approve of your printed circuit board repair. I would add heat to free the legs rather than cold working them free but no big deal. Always enjoy. Stay broke, stay happy!

    • @ccmoos
      @ccmoos Рік тому +23

      Repairing that is fantastic, even electronics pros can screw something like that up

    • @bobbyt2657
      @bobbyt2657 Рік тому +16

      IF it works .. it works ... and that's the main thing !!

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 Рік тому +17

      It's amazing how many problems come down to 3 (or 10 to 20) old electrolytic caps! Love the component level repair!

    • @M.TTT.
      @M.TTT. Рік тому

      Add heat with a heat gun?

    • @JustinVodden
      @JustinVodden Рік тому +2

      Hey there hive minde. Can anyone explain or point me in the direction of understanding what "open loop" and "closed loop" are. Wes has probably explained it in another video

  • @jimgrady7458
    @jimgrady7458 Рік тому +99

    Best part of this channel is watching your problem solving skills in action. I really enjoy seeing you sketch things out, make notes, and talk your way through it 👍

  • @smulderphotography2145
    @smulderphotography2145 Рік тому +31

    I’m a parts swapper and you sir are a mechanic. The detail you go into on these obscure fixes is unreal🙏🏻

  • @kevinsok3011
    @kevinsok3011 Рік тому +2

    "Pays to be a hoarder" is something I say every time I use that one fastener or odd piece I've kept in the garage for like 10 years lol. Mountains of crap in storage because you never know when you might just need something obscure.

  • @sirgreybat5954
    @sirgreybat5954 Рік тому +53

    9:09 "I have to figure it out". This is exactly why I watch your channel Wes! There are dozens of car repair channels out there, but this one is where you actually LEARN stuff. Thanks again for the excellent content.

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC Рік тому +41

    Several years ago we had a guy show up at my shop in an old Chevrolet conversion camper. He was living in it and the engine blew up. He was stranded and no one else would work on it. We ended up replacing the engine with him living inside the van. He would just wander off during the day and then we pushed the van back outside at night and he'd sleep in the parking lot. Interesting experience. Probably not One I would repeat.

    • @Rein_Ciarfella
      @Rein_Ciarfella Рік тому +8

      My step van conversion died on me on A1A in Ponte Vedra. Had it towed back to Jax Beach, got a job pumping gas at a Gulf station and the owner fixed it while I lived in it. Great experience. 👍🔧

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 Рік тому +5

      @@Rein_Ciarfella What a nice work commute you had. 😁👍

  • @JohnSmith-tv5ep
    @JohnSmith-tv5ep Рік тому +2

    WES, 37years workin in the electronics field, got paid by the hour.didnt really have time to delve into "fixing the problem" like you do, just plug and play equipment.
    Dude !!!! Your tenacity to go all in?.... Ain't no one else who would Give a SH ! π ! Thanks for sharing your abilities to help others! You Da Man!

  • @airindiana
    @airindiana Рік тому +6

    Wes I can’t tell you the recent occasions in the U.K. when I’ve had garages not help with relatively minor stuff they just didn’t want to do and announced to my friends “where’s our version of Wes or Rainman Ray”? It’s admirable your knowledge and sheer determination that something can be found and potentially fixed.

  • @luvr381
    @luvr381 Рік тому +157

    Wes, your dedication and desire to help are commendable.

  • @davidcolwill860
    @davidcolwill860 Рік тому +23

    As the old saying goes "If it flies, floats or f***s, rent it"

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 Рік тому +4

      You do WHAT to RVs?!!

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  Рік тому +4

      Well it's a land yacht so...

    • @ligurian728
      @ligurian728 Рік тому +1

      @@WatchWesWork I added "or is formal, rent it"

  • @benjamincresswell3713
    @benjamincresswell3713 Рік тому +19

    Wes, Great work! That RV looks like it's in nice shape, worth getting it right for the owner. I have a lot of older vehicles that no one will fix for me, no matter what I pay, so I appreciate what you did there. As a mechanic for 57yrs starting in 1965 and having worked in emissions fuel economy and drivability at GM for 36 concurrent, 1979-2016, I know the difficulties wading through the logic of engine controls for 1994. That year was a transition period from pre 1993 thru 1996 for that wt class. Engineers manipulated engine controls with fancy software to stay just under the emiss std w/ out adding more parts. That makes the control just crazy. But I'll bet that Ford 460 V8 is a nice combo for that class C E-350 RV, at about 12,000Lbs. And yes all high profile vehicles are a bear in windy conditions, you have to slow down. One time I went and hid behind a tall bldg while a tornado passed about a half a mile away! It was hairy. When it passed, trees were down, power poles were snapped off and I had no electricity for a week when I got home. Thank you for posting and making the guy's RV run nice again. ben/ michigan

    • @davidconner-shover51
      @davidconner-shover51 Рік тому +2

      I have a '99 E350 cutaway with a shuttle bus conversion, I've found it difficult to find anyone to work on it, even to change the plugs

  • @toocoolforsleep6941
    @toocoolforsleep6941 Рік тому +9

    As a normal DIY individual, this is absolutely insane. Insanely great work and learned some things about how 02 sensors worked.

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 Рік тому +79

    Board-level repairs are always the most satisfying! Nicely done Wes!

  • @DeadInsideButStillSmiling
    @DeadInsideButStillSmiling Рік тому +50

    You're a dedicated wrench head Wes. Not many would take it as a personal challenge to track down as obscure malfunction and put it right. Fine bit of work.

  • @yamahattr6006
    @yamahattr6006 Рік тому +2

    Your customer is lucky to have found you as you say no one else would want to work on that good job

  • @paulcooper2897
    @paulcooper2897 Рік тому +2

    Most shops would touch an RV ... NO SHOPS would repair a circuit board!
    Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

  • @codysp
    @codysp Рік тому +4

    I had to laugh when you went past the "road closed" sign. The last time i did that, a less than understanding sheriffs deputy asked me if i was confused on what "road closed" meant... 🤦‍♂️🤣

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  Рік тому +2

      We waited until he went the other way...

  • @generaldisarray
    @generaldisarray Рік тому +18

    Wes, the reason you didn't refuse to work on this RV and stuck with it is that you, like me and many others, have an obsessive compulsion to problem solve. We see, or hear, about a problem and our brain goes into problem solving mode, and we won't stop until we've either fixed it or broken it completely...🤣🤣
    Basically you are one of the good ones that doesn't let a problem beat you and chases the knowledge/satisfaction of the fix for that personal endorphine/dopamine rush, rather than for gratitude or financial reward.
    Excellent work as always Wes, keep it up. ❤❤

  • @jasonreimer6890
    @jasonreimer6890 Рік тому +11

    Wes. Your diagnostic skills are from out of this world. You amaze me every time you find the problem in the most unlikely places. Some super heroes don't wear capes.

  • @TheFreightBeast
    @TheFreightBeast Рік тому +7

    One of the few people still willing to do diag work on old OBD1 systems. Great work sir.

  • @paganguy3
    @paganguy3 Рік тому +63

    Good video!! A tip for you that might help with the soldering, you should be able to remove the conformal coating with either isopropyl alcohol or acetone. If you use a UV flashlight you'll see where the coating is (it will glow under the UV)
    Keep up the great work!!!

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 Рік тому +3

      Nice tip. Thank you. 👍👍

    • @ianmorris8534
      @ianmorris8534 Рік тому +5

      Acetone might be good for removal of the conformal coating, but can also soften the pcb (on certain pcb formulations) and cause swelling, leading to delamination , and the breaking of via's on multi-layer boards. It can also cause the degradation or dissolvement of other components such as smd's, thru-hole capacitor covers, led's, lcd's, etc.

    • @sativafourtwentie
      @sativafourtwentie Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the tip! Didn’t know about the blacklight

  • @pistnbroke65
    @pistnbroke65 Рік тому +21

    I bought that exact setup in 2015 and had the same issue. 40000 miles. You could overcome the bucking and coughing by running the ac but gas milage suffered.
    I finally pulled computer and discovered the blown capacitors. $10 in parts and the thing never missed another beat.
    It was still an absolute pig to drive but great for our family travels.
    The best part was when I sold it in 2021 for $5k more than I paid for it! A rare win in the rv world.
    Keep it real Wes! Cheers

  • @AUTiger1964
    @AUTiger1964 Рік тому +1

    Next time you get a ‘94 F350 plow truck with the same symptoms just think how much time you will save and money you will make repairing it in 45 minutes and STILL not know how or why!😊
    Wes, I wish you lived in the Atlanta area, NO one else would work on my car! My mechanic of 40 years recently retired and I don’t know what I will do for a new mechanic. Too many “parts cannons” out there in my area and shop labor rates are currently $150/hour.
    My impression of you, from watching your videos, is you are a honest, hard working and trustworthy man, with a more colorful vocabulary than you display in your videos.😊

  • @rayfunk5659
    @rayfunk5659 Рік тому +11

    Great video! That strange difference in the reference voltage you measured may have been affected by the faulty electrolytic cap. Your DVOM reacts relatively slowly and measured 5.0XX volts while your scan tool may have been reading noise pulses that the cap would have normally smoothed over, thus the 6.0++ reading. At any rate, the faulty filter cap caused it. I noticed you wisely chose the replacement cap with the higher voltage, but I would suspect the 50V cap would have been just fine as there is no voltage higher than battery voltage inside the PCM frame, (Maybe 14 to 15 volts when charging?) Chances are the 63V caps were a supply chain issue when the computer was built. Anything over double the nominal supply voltage would have been just fine.

  • @newrad2007
    @newrad2007 Рік тому +23

    As these vehicles age this seems to be becoming more of a problem with the caps inside. Another UA-camr I watch has posted about 2 or 3 of these, all with bad caps, some so bad its eaten the traces on the board. Good on you Wes for finding it and gettng that rig back on the road.

    • @MichaelSteeves
      @MichaelSteeves Рік тому +4

      For high-reliability applications, they recommend replacing electrolytic capacitors every 10 years. I have zero surprise that this was the issue.

    • @robpeters5204
      @robpeters5204 Рік тому

      @@MichaelSteeves most ppl don’t keep a vehicle for more than 3-5 hrs. This should have been set out to pasture many moons ago. Lol!

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy Рік тому +1

      ​@@robpeters5204And that's why most Americans are in debt up to their eyeballs. Maybe they should pay for and keep their cars instead of leasing (renting). Still cheaper to maintain a paid off vehicle than buy a new one like the dealers/banks want you to.

  • @mikeg_123
    @mikeg_123 Рік тому +29

    As an electronics technician by trade for twenty years, that Hakko is an excellent solder sucker. I have the same unit and it has worked for over a decade. It is even possible to replace the pump diaprams when they get all gunked up with flux fumes. Nice repair Wes, professional job! I would have done the exact same thing. That is one fancy stand!

    • @JackHudler
      @JackHudler Рік тому +4

      Yes it is. I will never go back to impact solder suckers. Destroyed too many pads with those things.

    • @M.TTT.
      @M.TTT. Рік тому +2

      Oh man, they're expensive though! Guess I'll stick to the cheap spring-loaded suckers lol

  • @JackdeDuCoeur
    @JackdeDuCoeur Рік тому +1

    You just saved that RV from the boneyard. Who else is soldering caps in a 90's stone age ecu? Nice work

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
    @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Рік тому +1

    Ah classic 90s EECIV. Brings back memories!

  • @elevator9592
    @elevator9592 Рік тому +44

    Wes this is why I love to watch your channel. At one time in my life I was a great trouble shooter because I understood how everything in a vehicle was supposed to work. In these days I can’t understand why or how they manage to make these engines run. So we have now raised a generation of parts changers in stead of trouble shooters. But not Wes he will dig and prod until he finds something that doesn’t look right and fix it. Great video thanks.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger Рік тому +2

      It just takes smarter people to fix them now. The world moves forward. Keep up or get left behind. Nothing new there.

  • @mphilleo
    @mphilleo Рік тому +4

    My wife really enjoyed the sparkle pencil pointer in your diagrammatic explanation. 🤣

  • @irregularrex4004
    @irregularrex4004 10 місяців тому +1

    Right when you showed the info from the scan tool I said to myself "it's probably the PCM". I've had a bunch of old Ford trucks and one of them ran me in circles worse than this and it ended up being a bad PCM. Your channel brings back some of the excitement I used to have when I first started out as a mechanic.

  • @jwhibdon
    @jwhibdon Рік тому +1

    Thank you for making this video. My brother and I have been chasing a problem just like the one you fixed for over a year in a 1995 Ford econoline e350 club wagon. We did not repair the thing, just went to the parts house and purchased a rebuilt one. It now runs great. Never would of found that without your video. Thank you.

  • @Buttonsfirewood34
    @Buttonsfirewood34 Рік тому +37

    Yes, I am glad to see Max was able to take time out of his busy day to make an appearance! It makes me happy seeing people diagnose and repair electronic side of things. Generally an easy fix once you are comfortable soldering circuit boards.

  • @brianhayes7618
    @brianhayes7618 Рік тому +25

    Wes it's good to exercise your brain that's why people bring you the types of vehicles they do because they know you won't give up like most mechanics would. Love your determination to find the problems

  • @squidysquid7586
    @squidysquid7586 Рік тому +9

    Wes I really love how you stayed with it and found/ fix the issue. I would never have guessed it was the PCM. I stopped working on Ford E series after I learned the hard way/ lost $$, that I didn't have the knowledge or resources to dig very far, and that they are just too cramped for a big guy 😂. Love the vids and knowledge you share. Keep em coming plz 😁

  • @weedpuller2000
    @weedpuller2000 Рік тому +9

    Thank you for working on the RV. I too have an older 460 RV that is tough to find someone to work on. I am very grateful when I find a good mechanic that’s willing to tackle it. Watching you figure out the cause of the problem is very entertaining and educational. Good work!

  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR Рік тому +6

    Congrats Wes, there's not 1 in a hundred guys that could figure that one out.

  • @troubleis5271
    @troubleis5271 Рік тому +9

    classic Wes detective work. good to see trademark pencil sketches making a come back- love that!

    • @gs1100ed
      @gs1100ed Рік тому +1

      Wes is quite the artist! Impressive!

  • @tinbeater36
    @tinbeater36 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm quite possibly the world's worst mechanic but really enjoy your videos. Your calm demeanor and ability to continue thinking through the problem until you solve it is refreshing.

  • @fillupread
    @fillupread Рік тому +2

    OBD1 Fards...this video brought me back to a dark place and gave me the willies...

  • @jeepzea4559
    @jeepzea4559 Рік тому +6

    Wes, we love to watch you solve problems, great video. The very best part of your video is you teaching you boy to be a boy along with other kids in the flooded areas! Keep showing how to have fun, enjoy the advantages of living in rural areas and just being a kid.

  • @an04ker
    @an04ker Рік тому +42

    Good job. These are the most satisfying repairs once you’ve found the problem.

  • @kenthoward2666
    @kenthoward2666 Рік тому +14

    Nicely done Wes. A real pleasure watching a true professional.

  • @MD-ob1gq
    @MD-ob1gq Рік тому +3

    I was an electronics bench tech for about 18 years and I see no issues with your soldering. Gotta love an ECU that was actually somewhat serviceable too! Nice one!

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Рік тому +18

    Excellent diagnostic skills. You never cease to amaze me. I feel bad for all those impacted by the river flooding. Thanks for sharing.

  • @zahbus8315
    @zahbus8315 Рік тому +11

    This customer was just lucky to bring this to you. Your background in electronics saved the day for sure. Great video!

  • @mattlaptop5728
    @mattlaptop5728 Рік тому +1

    Hallelujah! “SoLder” - spread the word and thank you on behalf of all of us on the other side of the Atlantic.

  • @jamesbergeron8356
    @jamesbergeron8356 Рік тому +1

    I'll say it again, your customers are extremely fortunate to have you. NO one else would have the knowledge or skills to do this repair.

  • @TDHranch
    @TDHranch Рік тому +6

    That drawing of a big block motor and an 02 sensor was magnificent, and appeared to be in scale!

  • @Military-Museum-LP
    @Military-Museum-LP Рік тому +3

    I’ve always loved your designs. Helps me understand better. Wes maybe you should be teaching at a tech college??

  • @bryantalbot8984
    @bryantalbot8984 Рік тому +2

    I have no issue with your pronunciation of solder, being from the UK, it's exactly how we would pronounce it. Very informative video as always, cheers wes

  • @andrewsnoozy
    @andrewsnoozy Рік тому +9

    Hey Wes, that was most impressive and you even had the capacitors in stock! Using higher voltage is ok, we all do that. VREF = Voltage Reference, something for it to compare against to make its calculations. If you accidently have a "track delete" you can use the capacitor leads as a track. Yeah, that was good thanks for showing.

    • @davidconner-shover51
      @davidconner-shover51 Рік тому

      Vref of 5 volts is actually the power supply voltage to every chip in there. those are power supply filter caps to keep the voltage stable across load changes, the mad thing is, once over 5.5V with much of that, it can possibly fry the electronics.
      Going a bit heavy on the uF is generally ok in most circuits
      These days, one could pay a bit more for tantalum caps in those ranges, they don't have that pesky electrolytic leakage/drying out issue.

  • @mark98070
    @mark98070 Рік тому +8

    Your tenacity and determination is what separates the mechanics/diagnosticians
    from the parts changers/clock watchers.

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 Рік тому +24

    Hats off to you sir, love your attitude on solving problems, wished there were more shops as dedicated to the profession of solving problems and not just changing parts. Thanks for the tag along vid Wes.

    • @fuckjewtube69
      @fuckjewtube69 Рік тому +1

      Theres lots of people out there its that people dont wanna pay

  • @falcorthewonderdog2758
    @falcorthewonderdog2758 Рік тому +6

    I'm impressed with your skill level.
    Great to see there are still craftsman working in the automotive repair field.

  • @user-vy5jw1zm1o
    @user-vy5jw1zm1o 9 днів тому

    Subscribed just cuz nobody else took the time to go this deep into a project. These days everyone says no just get a new part instead of fixing something

  • @FliesLikeABrick
    @FliesLikeABrick Рік тому +6

    Absolutely love the component-level fix, your background of multiple disciplines pays off again

  • @bensmith6051
    @bensmith6051 Рік тому +5

    I should be at church, but I’m watching Wes work. Thanks Wes.

  • @peterdrake3535
    @peterdrake3535 Рік тому +1

    The first time I have heard an American person pronounce the word solder without a silent “L” and a terrific job fixing the problem.

  • @rhadden8976
    @rhadden8976 Рік тому +3

    Wes, you really impress me. It's not often that a wrench ape (not inferring you as such) would even attempt a board level repair. Most are a r&r only. Great Job and thank you for taking the time to share.

  • @cg8469
    @cg8469 Рік тому +5

    "Chevy Racing" sticker on a 90s era Ford van motorhome. Fantastic.

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 Рік тому +1

      To quote another channel: "There's your problem lady!"
      No wonder it's unhappy.

  • @justinchetney3902
    @justinchetney3902 Рік тому +4

    Soon as you had the scan tool reading 6v vs the 5v the multimeter was reading, I knew there was a problem with the PCM. Great diag! I love this channel for that reason.

    • @rogertucker6662
      @rogertucker6662 Рік тому

      It still reads 6 volts even after he fixed it.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  Рік тому +1

      Yep, still confused.

    • @justinchetney3902
      @justinchetney3902 Рік тому

      I don't try to understand magic and O2 sensors. Haha!

    • @justinchetney3902
      @justinchetney3902 Рік тому

      @ROGER TUCKER I must have missed that part. I just saw the initial clip and my head was like... well... there's something wrong with the PCM, cause it's what sending data to the scan tool. Who knows... magic. Lol!

  • @georgetoth1913
    @georgetoth1913 2 місяці тому

    I absolutely love this guy’s humor. Great drawings and explanations.

  • @davidholder3207
    @davidholder3207 Рік тому +1

    Oh for a simple spring, vacuum tube and choke cable. Those where the days my friend.
    Nice piece of logical thinking and a solution.

  • @paulaspinall919
    @paulaspinall919 Рік тому +7

    My brain boggles at some of your repairs. The diagnosis is heavy enough but then you start working on PCBs. Super impressed. Way beyond my abilities. Thank you.

    • @WastelandWanderer1216
      @WastelandWanderer1216 Рік тому

      Hell at this point and going into the future you're not only gonna need Mechanical Training but also Computer Science learning. Completely screws over shade tree mechanics like myself 😅😅😅😅

  • @mrv8788
    @mrv8788 Рік тому +15

    Wes you’re so much like a friend of mine. He’s got an identical working garage as we all say in the old days a one-man band get a problem that somebody else can’t fix and he won’t leave alone until he gets to the bottom of it no matter how long it would take and then he finishes up really losing money in one way but he will pursue it until he gets to the bottom of it and get it done. Well done to you and good luck. Keep up the good work you do

  • @richardeasther2569
    @richardeasther2569 Рік тому +1

    I sure do hope the owner appreciated your dedication to problem solving

  • @SmallMartingale
    @SmallMartingale Рік тому +4

    That little engine doodle was so good lol

  • @letitroll1972
    @letitroll1972 Рік тому +9

    A real pleasure watching a good mechanic get to the root of the problem. Well done Wes.

  • @gregblanton2656
    @gregblanton2656 22 дні тому

    Wes is intelligent and intuitive enough to fix the world's problems, but he prefers to live the simple life and listen to straight-piped Peterbilts go by as he fixes what nobody else can. I enjoy your videos endlessly and watched them on all my navy deployments when I was a diesel tech on an aircraft carrier. Bought UA-cam Premium just to use my entire phone's storage to download and watch your videos.

  • @SkiddingF350
    @SkiddingF350 Рік тому +1

    I owned a '94 E350 motorhome. Had it a couple years and it started surging and doing stupid stuff. I confirmed a lot of stuff, determined that it wasn't actually misfiring. I searched the forums online for days, just trying to get another angle of what could be the issue. I found a post with pictures of the inside of the ECU, showing damaged capacitors. I removed my ECU, inspected and found all three damaged capacitors. I don't have the skilled to replace them so I ordered a 'rebuilt' ECU. Installed it and it did the same thing. The rebuilt ECU had 'don't tamper' tape on it, I carefully removed the screwed, not to damage the tape, and discovered the same damage to all three capacitors. I contacted the company, asked them if they replaced them. They advised to send it back and they would inspect. Pretty sure I received a different ECU, this time it was super taped, no way to examine the inside without damaging the tape. Installed the ECU and it ran perfect. I sold it shortly afterwards. Good job Wes!!!

  • @jerrymoore7669
    @jerrymoore7669 Рік тому +4

    Damn, I am impressed with the radio shack stash.

  • @bigdog7813
    @bigdog7813 Рік тому +5

    Nice find! Every vehicle that has electrolytic capacitors is a ticking timebomb. Eventually they will fail. However, most of the time the capacitors will outlast the rust (at least here in the rustbelt) before the vehicle reaches end-of-life. WRT the secondary air injection, I thought SAI was only active during cold engine start up and used to accelerate the O2 warm up for closed loop operation. Once the engine goes into closed loop operation, the SAI would be disabled. Might be different for different makes/models.
    Nice shoots of the flooding. Tough year with the snow melt and rains. Hopefully summer is much less eventful, weatherwise. Thanks for the videos!

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  Рік тому +1

      It seems to run the secondary air on a timer, cycling every minute or so.

    • @jrevillug
      @jrevillug Рік тому

      ​@@WatchWesWork I commented elsewhere but I suspect that cycle is used to poll the O2 sensor and update the idle mixture, but that it has a 2-way cat that just needs a lean mixture.

  • @c185pilot3
    @c185pilot3 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant analysis...you are amazing in your ability to deal with mechanical and electrical issues in a most sophisticated manner...you do great videos

  • @richardmorse5307
    @richardmorse5307 4 місяці тому

    After watching this one I sure wish I could take our 2002 CR V with 409,000 Km for repairs that would inject new life into it. No one I’ve seen could match your incredible diagnostic ability and remarkable persistence. That’s why your shop is surrounded by vehicles of all types waiting patiently to be given a new lease on life!!! And amazingly you remain good natured about everything!!!

  • @spaghettilocomotive
    @spaghettilocomotive Рік тому +5

    This actually hit close to home for me, I've got a 1992 bmw 325i out here that does the same thing, runs rough, guzzles fuel and won't go into closed loop. I think I'm gonna have a look see in the ecu before I throw any more money at it. Thanks for the video Wes, always a pleasure learning something from you.

  • @JJ-iw7nh
    @JJ-iw7nh Рік тому +8

    This is why I watch this channel. Your tenacity is something else. I always learn something new and appreciate all the videos.

  • @averystevenstv5040
    @averystevenstv5040 5 місяців тому

    After 4 months of chasing this same problem on my 1995 e350 7.5l, replacing all ignition components and more. I finally pulled out the pcm after watching this video, and boom. Same exact capacitor had failed. Now to find someone who can fix it!
    Thanks for ending my wild goose chase! Cheers

  • @RedE4fun2
    @RedE4fun2 6 місяців тому

    My Ford E350 Rv is having almost exact same problem and failing smog. This was a big help. You don't need to apologize. I haven't run into many mechanics that would actually try and repair a board instead of just charging the customer for a new one weather he needed it or not. That's integrity and tenacity on your part.

  • @mikespain8655
    @mikespain8655 Рік тому +3

    Many shops give up too quickly. They are profit and time driven, not customer satisfaction and actually fixing the issue focused. I like to go the extra mile myself for my customers. In the end, the personal gratification and happy customer often offset the lower profits and additional time spent on the repair. Additionally, the referrals continue to come in like crazy. Another great repair Wes.

  • @Coinhunter-km4qo
    @Coinhunter-km4qo Рік тому +8

    Well done Wes. Don’t spend a lot of time trying to figure out all the complicated communications in these rigs, just take the WIN and proceed to the next job. 👍

  • @DonziGT230
    @DonziGT230 Рік тому +1

    It being an RV has nothing to do with the problem. I was pretty sure it would't be the O2 and was guessing ECU pretty early on. I love that you opened it and found and fixed the problem, very cool.
    I broke those mechanic's rules long ago, I own and work on boats and RVs. I'm also in violation of the other mechanic's rule; I have several old ugly vehicles like I'm supposed to, BUT they all run properly 🤣

  • @joecrypto
    @joecrypto 9 місяців тому

    I have worked in the electronics industry for over 40 years and must say this fix was very impressive! Good work

  • @simuler
    @simuler Рік тому +6

    I've seen Shango066 fix several of those ECMs with various damage level from leaking capacitors, i'm guessing it's a common problem with this era ECMs. Great repair as always Wes

  • @smokierspy
    @smokierspy Рік тому +4

    It’s not that you don’t like making money it’s that you like actually helping customers and that the nitch, but being from only a few towns over I can tell you we need more mechanics like you in our area !

  • @arashtorabi8852
    @arashtorabi8852 Рік тому

    Maybe not so much money but that smile after fixing and smiling customers on the door is good and the happy customers bring more customers and money .

  • @sudd2685
    @sudd2685 Рік тому

    The folks in your area are lucky to have you, thank you for your videos.

  • @MayaPosch
    @MayaPosch Рік тому +3

    When the symptoms are so bizarre and make absolutely no sense, it's either a dodgy ground somewhere, or ECU problem. That seems to be roughly what it comes down to :)

  • @mikaelmossbring1728
    @mikaelmossbring1728 Рік тому +7

    Shame that one can not like the video more than once. You Sir, are an awsome mechanic. I think that the number of people that could find AND solve that problen can be counted on one hands fingers.
    Take pride in that! Greetings from Sweden. Awesome video as always.

    • @lesbender236
      @lesbender236 Рік тому

      you can if you have several computers!

  • @woopimagpie
    @woopimagpie Рік тому +3

    As an ex computer tech I completely understand the concept of sometimes taking your payment in knowledge and satisfaction rather than money. I had several customers with very old and/or problematic computer systems that I knew I was going to lose money on but they were such nice people doing excellent work I just treated it as my contribution to their operations. Luckily I had enough big clients that paid well so I could afford to do a bit of "charity" work now and then. Some of those clients become friends who I still see and help out occasionally, as good friends do. Eventually I got so addicted to the feel-good aspect that I quit the IT game and now run a little second-hand bookshop that makes next to no money. It makes a lot of people happy, including me, so I have no regrets at all. I much prefer being broke and happy to loaded and miserable, which is what I was before. I realise I sound like I'm trying to justify being broke by saying money is over-rated, but the old saying "you can't buy happiness" is absolutely true. Good on you Wes, keep on keeping on mate.

  • @djhscorp
    @djhscorp Рік тому

    With your skill set and knowledge you will never be out of work for sure, when you get a simple job in, I hope you go home just as happy. Great channel.

  • @ME-kv8ew
    @ME-kv8ew Рік тому +15

    I would like to see the program in the ecu. I think that would explain a lot. I think it runs more than we realize without other sensor input. I also think the 5v ref reading 6v is just the obd1 setup to read on a scanner. Curious what others readings would be in comparison. Wes as always you do a great job. I never would have guessed ECU. God bless you and your family. Love you videos.😊