With the w204 c300 mercedes has done an injustice to this model. Plastic flap runners to degradable plastic wiring causing shorts and fires and yet with so many occurences and even deaths mercedes still has yet to issue recalls. This was my 1st mercedes and will be my last. Thank you for taking the time out to do this video. You have done more for mercedes owners than mercedes.
Hi, Thank you for the nice video. You have always been great to explain everything concisely. But, whatever happened to the video for part numbers and the rebuild process? Did you hit some sort of a dead-end and decided not to publish the video? is it doable? Please let me know so I don't have to spin my wheels trying to do an undoable?
As much as I want to be there and tell you the names of a lot of these parts (it's bugging me lol), I just needed to see a POV of the teardown. Thank you for it, it's hard to find a video of the case halves for the manifold split open and videoed.
always garages in GCC country when they receive codes from car computer they told us to replace whole manifold but in fact just like what you have mentioned in this video need only to replace plastic parts need to be replaced . Good job my friend keep going good job 👍
Nice! I was going to take mine apart since I bought a big tube of the loctite rtv sealant, may not bother now that I've already seen see how it is on the inside 😂 Mine is from an M112.912, and is somewhat simpler, with a single actuator for metal flaps, but has two metal vacuum valves on the front for the secondary air injection pump. Thanks for the video
I am obviously behind time now. very useful this video. I just spent a fortune replacing the intake of my M273 V8 manifold which I believe is nothing wrong with. Nothings broken. Could have been cleaned I am sure. There was a code for Bank 1 flap stuck. The rest of your offer will be very interresting. Thank you.
Hey Keith! Came across this video after my car threw a p2006 code very informative on what’s going on with it seems like a pricey job 🤦🏾♀️ Thanks for Sharing!
iRepair Autos Hi Keith - please please please tell me there is a rebuild with part numbers and step by step guidance?! I have bought one and need your help?
Great video, thank you. Liked and subscribed. By the way, my p2006 code for a 08 C300 says "runner control stuck closed bank 1," where exactly is this fault and can it be rebuilt? Most techs just replace entire intake manifold.
at the 8.30 minutue mark you move that little part broke on mine no p2006 code mine fell out but there seems to be a piece still inside do i need to seprate manifold to change out this part if so what is that little part called thanks
Separating the manifold is a pain. No error codes.... yet.... I haven't been able to locate a reliable place that sells these parts or even what it's called. I did see a comment with a link though with parts. Check the comments. I didn't verify whether or not these parts or seller is legit. Please keep that in mind.
Hi, so I broke the Male connections of both the vacuum hoses located on the front side underneath the middle pump. Do you happen to know the part numbers?
I have a 07 GL450 and my Maxi com scan tool reads inlet manifold short but after watching your video I checked it and the that part is not broke but I can tell somethen is wrong because if I don’t press the peddle down far enough the car has bad performance during acceleration
I heard they first made those internal flaps out of aluminum, but had lots of problem so changed to plastic, which still had problem, so they had new plastic version, which seems to be ok.
Hey I got c300 Mercedes the swirl flap is fully functional but it showed up p2004 and for some reason since that happen my rear wheel is locking up every time I press gass
just bought a 2007 C280 pulled all the codes how many will the intake flap cause has 6 codes p0301 p0300 p0128 p0022 p0011 p2006 thanks for any help as it runs rough at idle!
On the older m113 models the vac hose is buried under the sealed part of the lower section. Any tips for breaking that RTV (assuming) sealed and seated section? I don't want to pry on it and bend anything. Only video I found was by an old Russian with no process to do the breakdown, just reassembly.
Yo Keith! Figured out why you never made a rebuild video. (maybe) Tore mine in half and found out the internal components were broken. Tumbler flap? Anyway, I searched EVERYWHERE for that specific part. Couldn't find it. They make actuator levers but that's about it. So I went to my local salvage yard (LKQ) and picked up a salvage manifold. Funny enough, the salvage one had a broken actuator lever. I had already purchased the repair lever online but couldn't use it for my old one so now I get to use it on the new one. Thanks always for the videos.
Hey Damien. Yeah, I was able to obtain the internal parts. Pure Junk. I wouldn't pass these on to my loyal subscribers. It's best to get a brand new unit.
Yup. It's the mercedes designer making it cheaper and lighter. Suppose to be abs durable plastic. Same crap with the air intake acuator. I suppose they wanted you to replace this part but doesn't want to admit that it will fail over time since the oil fumes from the crank case pumps right back to it clogging it. Then again, they weren't expecting anyone to keep a mercedes that long as their normal clients would have trade in for a new model already.
I've just discovered you. Immediately subscribed after your explanation of the tumble valves. Excellent stuff. I have a question..... I saw your video on the oil catch can and the oil pan at the back of the engine.... So my question is, as a preventative measure is there some spray that can be used while the engine is running to clean the runners and tumble valves? Thanks
I currently have my intake manifold removed in order to replace the actuator flap. Long story, but the part I ordered was not as advertised so I’ve attempted to make it work since I’m down and this is my daily driver. In the process, other old fragile plastic parts have broken. So now, I’m searching for all the replaceable plastic parts to rebuild the intake. However, they are difficult to find. Do you have any advice for me on finding replacement parts? Thx
Hey Keith, nice video but how about the new one where you rebuild the manifold with new parts? I cannot get an old one else I wouldve built it myself and made a video too
Seems to me the plastic inner flaps could actually be removed permanently as a fix, from what's in the video the outer flaps are the ones with sensor on.
Great work. You inspired me to buy a used Air Intake Manifold. I now have it, want to rebuild it but cannot find the rebuild videos. Please tell me you made them and I can now follow them to rebuild?!?
This is not a complete tear down. I am sure someone else has already commented on this as I didn't read all of the responses. Plus this is 6 years ago so it is probably a dead video. Anyone that comes here and wants any info about how this is completely repaired just let me know.
This seems a very clean manifold, I just took mine out, it’s a 2007c280, it has some oil residue on the inside. Well looks like the original one and 12years old. Also, I’ve been told it’s made out of magnesium and that’s why it’s so expensive. The hardest part on doing this repair is putting the intake back on top of the engine with out displacing the gaskets. I used some fishing line to secure the gaskets on to the manifold through the screw-holes, because those little push thingy secure buttons don’t hold them up good enough. You also can’t barely see if the gasket is in place after putting it back on. So paranoia;). Anyways, they car drives fine, after the first start the CEL was off but it came on again. I guess I still need to get the codes cleared or does anyone know if they will go away by themselves some time after the repair?
@@iRepairAutos did you ever track down the parts for a complete rebuild? I found these. vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132455741931&category=36474&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528894760000&ver=0 In my intake due to wear bank 1 runner flaps would get stuck open. Everything else is good outside just dirt inside and wear on the little white plastic bearings to call them so which hold the runner flaps in place. Some of them are missing actually.
It would be nice to buy all Alloy etc and rebuild using this so nothing breaks again, is this possible? I'm in Australia and due to the long distances we travel, we can't afford for the vehicle to break down.
Hi Martin, Anything is possible. I'm not sure if a machinist out there is watching my channel and could come up with aluminum parts (very light weight).
Hey i have a quick question. I have my old intake and a new unit installed in my s550. The new unit the 1st diaphragm lever popped out from the manifold. Is it repairable if i try to puah it back in? Or do i need to mix and match the psrts from both units to get 1 good 1. The oem unit is in excellent shape except for where the diaphragm sits so im going to use the top of the new unit and the bottom of the old unit unless i can fix the rotating arm.plz lmk thx
@iRepairAutos i tried. Im going to open up the intake and replace the part with ones out of metal that i fabbricated. This way the pivot ball stud is metal and so is the backing piece pocated inside. Hope it lasts a lifetime now lol.
U seems to know ur stuff on these intakes. So I’m getting code p2006 All levers are in working order. So I think I have a fault with one of the switchover valves. The switchover valve that supplies vacuum to the middle diaphragm seems to never apply vaccuum when I command it with the scanner. I switched the switchover valves around and they both work. Unfortunately I can’t check vacuum when running because there’s no access But I did notice that the vacuum port coming off of the intake that goes to the passenger side switchover has no resistance when sucking through the port. Is irs the same? I was told those ports have internal check valve. So if that’s the case I have a failed check valve? Which is why I have no vacuum when actived.
Thanks for very helpful video! I Kazakhstan, also in Russian maintenance center's masters recommend to fully extract all plastic flaps. They are promise that engine after this upgrade works normally without any errors. (if you want, I can send instructions to you email) What do you think about this?
It's not rebuildable nor worth your time to even attempt. The cost of a new one is less costly for the rebuild. The issue with replacing this part is getting to it, which takes an insane amount of time and associated dissemble of parts.
Problem is the cheap aftermarket ones are garbage and the OEM ones are mad expensive. Very easy to rebuild these if you know what you are doing. Most people don't.
I did one of these today.. They thing fell apart just taking it off...The guy brings me some Dorman fix it kit that was shit..As every damn servo arm control rod was broke, And the Control rod valves just fell in the intake...Guy was so cheap. He didn't even want to change the intake gaskets. Not the bitch is stuck in my drive way... I gave him 4 days to go buy a new intake and a gasket set. Or it gets towed off....I have had it with cheap ass MB owners...I'm never working on one again...
@@iRepairAutos hello are you still out there??✋ if so I have a question, hope you can help me with. I when went to get smog check today.he didn't put it on the computer because he found a problem(P2006) and the readout said that my manifold was stuck / closed. how can I explain that to a mechanic? And what does it mean ? thank you Dolores👍
@@sexxxxygranny hello. Yes I'm here. I your mechanic should know what that means. If he doesn't then I might try to find another mechanic. You can tell him that the Mercedes has internal flaps that open And close variably. Depending on how fast your driving. Sometimes these flaps get stuck open or closed because of gunk buildup. Sometimes they're stuck Because the plastic runner breaks.
You are the best mb mechanic ever man.
The only one in UA-cam I've seen do this appreciate it. Got my like and my subscription 👍👍
You are a life saver for a first time euro vehicle. Thanks for the descriptions of parts and brake down of the process. Thanks.
With the w204 c300 mercedes has done an injustice to this model. Plastic flap runners to degradable plastic wiring causing shorts and fires and yet with so many occurences and even deaths mercedes still has yet to issue recalls. This was my 1st mercedes and will be my last. Thank you for taking the time out to do this video. You have done more for mercedes owners than mercedes.
WOW!!!!! Thanks Pal..... Son many of us have been seeking this exact procedure to FINALLY see whats inside these babies
Glad to help
Thanks for the video. I have 25 years experience as a dealership level tech but this saved me a bunch of frustration.
Hi, Thank you for the nice video. You have always been great to explain everything concisely. But, whatever happened to the video for part numbers and the rebuild process? Did you hit some sort of a dead-end and decided not to publish the video? is it doable? Please let me know so I don't have to spin my wheels trying to do an undoable?
As much as I want to be there and tell you the names of a lot of these parts (it's bugging me lol), I just needed to see a POV of the teardown. Thank you for it, it's hard to find a video of the case halves for the manifold split open and videoed.
Thx 4 that you recording and sharing with us how to repair the air intake on M272 Engine.
Best Wishes from Germany :]
always garages in GCC country when they receive codes from car computer they told us to replace whole manifold but in fact just like what you have mentioned in this video need only to replace plastic parts need to be replaced .
Good job my friend keep going good job 👍
Thank you for the info. My vehicle is scheduled for rebuild on 2/11 and this was clear explanation of what work will be done to it
Have them change it the re-breather and re-breather cover as well.
Nice! I was going to take mine apart since I bought a big tube of the loctite rtv sealant, may not bother now that I've already seen see how it is on the inside 😂
Mine is from an M112.912, and is somewhat simpler, with a single actuator for metal flaps, but has two metal vacuum valves on the front for the secondary air injection pump. Thanks for the video
You are genius.
I am obviously behind time now. very useful this video. I just spent a fortune replacing the intake of my M273 V8 manifold which I believe is nothing wrong with. Nothings broken. Could have been cleaned I am sure. There was a code for Bank 1 flap stuck. The rest of your offer will be very interresting. Thank you.
Awesome video. Very helpful as I am about to disassemble mine. 😀 Thanks!
Thanks! Take your time on doing it. Let me know how you make out.
We are here already mate, yes so the rebuild!
Word that’s where the commercial would start 😂
Did you ever do the rebuild and the parts list ??
I have mine out after watching the tear down I was considering doing the same thing
You are the man.
Yes on the rebuilding of these
Thank you, I found easier to repair it than to remove it.
Hey Keith! Came across this video after my car threw a p2006 code very informative on what’s going on with it seems like a pricey job 🤦🏾♀️ Thanks for Sharing!
Hi Lude! I can take a look at your mercedes for you.
iRepair Autos Hi Keith - please please please tell me there is a rebuild with part numbers and step by step guidance?! I have bought one and need your help?
Intake manifold stuck closed, I have the same problem, I did a scan, but I don't know how to fix it
Are you sure the plenum is made out of aluminum? I think is made out of magnesium, or at least the older models. great video!
Magnesium.
Great video, thank you. Liked and subscribed. By the way, my p2006 code for a 08 C300 says "runner control stuck closed bank 1," where exactly is this fault and can it be rebuilt? Most techs just replace entire intake manifold.
at the 8.30 minutue mark you move that little part broke on mine no p2006 code mine fell out but there seems to be a piece still inside do i need to seprate manifold to change out this part if so what is that little part called thanks
Separating the manifold is a pain. No error codes.... yet.... I haven't been able to locate a reliable place that sells these parts or even what it's called. I did see a comment with a link though with parts. Check the comments. I didn't verify whether or not these parts or seller is legit. Please keep that in mind.
Hi, so I broke the Male connections of both the vacuum hoses located on the front side underneath the middle pump. Do you happen to know the part numbers?
Excellent video!
I have a 07 GL450 and my Maxi com scan tool reads inlet manifold short but after watching your video I checked it and the that part is not broke but I can tell somethen is wrong because if I don’t press the peddle down far enough the car has bad performance during acceleration
Thank you Mercedes for making this out of plastic junk!
I heard they first made those internal flaps out of aluminum, but had lots of problem so changed to plastic, which still had problem, so they had new plastic version, which seems to be ok.
Hey I got c300 Mercedes the swirl flap is fully functional but it showed up p2004 and for some reason since that happen my rear wheel is locking up every time I press gass
How do I order parts for the internal of this manifold I need gaskets and the plastic bushings the flaps pivot in please help?????
No one sells the internal parts. Gaskets can be ordered at the dealership
Did you either make or find a supplier for the parts?
I don’t own a Mercedes Benz but I like rebuilding things
just bought a 2007 C280 pulled all the codes how many will the intake flap cause has 6 codes p0301 p0300 p0128 p0022 p0011 p2006 thanks for any help as it runs rough at idle!
On the older m113 models the vac hose is buried under the sealed part of the lower section. Any tips for breaking that RTV (assuming) sealed and seated section? I don't want to pry on it and bend anything. Only video I found was by an old Russian with no process to do the breakdown, just reassembly.
Hello!
I have question, can i delete all swirl flaps and does it any damage to engine if i delete them?
Hello. I deleted all inner flaps because i had 2 broken flaps, and car performing well. Dont have check engine or any problems.
Yo Keith!
Figured out why you never made a rebuild video. (maybe)
Tore mine in half and found out the internal components were broken. Tumbler flap?
Anyway, I searched EVERYWHERE for that specific part. Couldn't find it. They make actuator levers but that's about it. So I went to my local salvage yard (LKQ) and picked up a salvage manifold.
Funny enough, the salvage one had a broken actuator lever. I had already purchased the repair lever online but couldn't use it for my old one so now I get to use it on the new one.
Thanks always for the videos.
Hey Damien. Yeah, I was able to obtain the internal parts. Pure Junk. I wouldn't pass these on to my loyal subscribers. It's best to get a brand new unit.
Yup. It's the mercedes designer making it cheaper and lighter. Suppose to be abs durable plastic. Same crap with the air intake acuator. I suppose they wanted you to replace this part but doesn't want to admit that it will fail over time since the oil fumes from the crank case pumps right back to it clogging it. Then again, they weren't expecting anyone to keep a mercedes that long as their normal clients would have trade in for a new model already.
Could you Repaire my car? E350, 2008 error p2006. What’s the cost. Thanks.
I've just discovered you. Immediately subscribed after your explanation of the tumble valves. Excellent stuff. I have a question..... I saw your video on the oil catch can and the oil pan at the back of the engine.... So my question is, as a preventative measure is there some spray that can be used while the engine is running to clean the runners and tumble valves? Thanks
I currently have my intake manifold removed in order to replace the actuator flap. Long story, but the part I ordered was not as advertised so I’ve attempted to make it work since I’m down and this is my daily driver. In the process, other old fragile plastic parts have broken. So now, I’m searching for all the replaceable plastic parts to rebuild the intake. However, they are difficult to find. Do you have any advice for me on finding replacement parts? Thx
Don't rebuild. Get a brand new one from fcp. It comes with a lifetime warranty
Hey Keith, nice video but how about the new one where you rebuild the manifold with new parts?
I cannot get an old one else I wouldve built it myself and made a video too
Seems to me the plastic inner flaps could actually be removed permanently as a fix, from what's in the video the outer flaps are the ones with sensor on.
I think that the air-flow mapping needs to be changed if you wanna remove the flaps. Have you done any of this?
Looking for help on applying silicon gasket on 06 r350. Valve cover. Schematic of the silicon route.
Great work. You inspired me to buy a used Air Intake Manifold. I now have it, want to rebuild it but cannot find the rebuild videos. Please tell me you made them and I can now follow them to rebuild?!?
Check for wear, replace broken/worn parts if necessary, clean the sealing surfaces very well and reseal with loctite 5970 RTV silicone
Hey is there a gasket for the two halfs of the intake??thanks
no, they used sealer that looks kinda like silicon caulk.
Thanks !!
8:30
there are metal aftermarket parts now available for those things too.
tell us where?
when in doubt, check ebay.
This is not a complete tear down. I am sure someone else has already commented on this as I didn't read all of the responses. Plus this is 6 years ago so it is probably a dead video.
Anyone that comes here and wants any info about how this is completely repaired just let me know.
This seems a very clean manifold, I just took mine out, it’s a 2007c280, it has some oil residue on the inside. Well looks like the original one and 12years old. Also, I’ve been told it’s made out of magnesium and that’s why it’s so expensive. The hardest part on doing this repair is putting the intake back on top of the engine with out displacing the gaskets. I used some fishing line to secure the gaskets on to the manifold through the screw-holes, because those little push thingy secure buttons don’t hold them up good enough. You also can’t barely see if the gasket is in place after putting it back on. So paranoia;). Anyways, they car drives fine, after the first start the CEL was off but it came on again. I guess I still need to get the codes cleared or does anyone know if they will go away by themselves some time after the repair?
~Hey Mon is there a part number for the intake manifold sensors? By the way nice ring. Boaz.... Cc
#272-153-02-32
Hello, what was the issue with this particular manifold? It seems like the flaps and everything was intact
Maybe to check their conditions (plastic flaps) and to replace them before they break, you know “preventive maintenance “...
Is this the same intake that you cleaned with degreaser in the other video? Looks pretty clean to me
Yes the same one.
@@iRepairAutos did you ever track down the parts for a complete rebuild?
I found these.
vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132455741931&category=36474&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528894760000&ver=0
In my intake due to wear bank 1 runner flaps would get stuck open. Everything else is good outside just dirt inside and wear on the little white plastic bearings to call them so which hold the runner flaps in place. Some of them are missing actually.
It would be nice to buy all Alloy etc and rebuild using this so nothing breaks again, is this possible?
I'm in Australia and due to the long distances we travel, we can't afford for the vehicle to break down.
Hi Martin, Anything is possible. I'm not sure if a machinist out there is watching my channel and could come up with aluminum parts (very light weight).
What are the symptoms of this code?
Hey i have a quick question. I have my old intake and a new unit installed in my s550. The new unit the 1st diaphragm lever popped out from the manifold. Is it repairable if i try to puah it back in? Or do i need to mix and match the psrts from both units to get 1 good 1. The oem unit is in excellent shape except for where the diaphragm sits so im going to use the top of the new unit and the bottom of the old unit unless i can fix the rotating arm.plz lmk thx
You can try popping it back on. Important to check if the flaps rotate as the levers are moved.
@iRepairAutos i tried. Im going to open up the intake and replace the part with ones out of metal that i fabbricated. This way the pivot ball stud is metal and so is the backing piece pocated inside. Hope it lasts a lifetime now lol.
those suckers are magnesium btw
What causes this problems
Gunk from the rebreather, not changing your oil in a timely fashion, dirty air intake air fillers
good one, keep it up, whats with the load music.
Cant find part numbers
What were the part numbers 7:30
The flaps inside melted and I can't find the part
you will have to get another manifold. these parts are not sourced anywhere that I could find.
@@iRepairAutos yes I tried too. This is a scam because these parts are plastic with part numbers you can't find very suspicious.
i could not find part 2
I’ve had to replace mine poor quality parts
U seems to know ur stuff on these intakes. So I’m getting code p2006
All levers are in working order. So I think I have a fault with one of the switchover valves. The switchover valve that supplies vacuum to the middle diaphragm seems to never apply vaccuum when I command it with the scanner. I switched the switchover valves around and they both work. Unfortunately I can’t check vacuum when running because there’s no access
But I did notice that the vacuum port coming off of the intake that goes to the passenger side switchover has no resistance when sucking through the port. Is irs the same? I was told those ports have internal check valve. So if that’s the case I have a failed check valve? Which is why I have no vacuum when actived.
Good video man
Красавчик
Please do show us
Thanks for very helpful video! I Kazakhstan, also in Russian maintenance center's masters recommend to fully extract all plastic flaps. They are promise that engine after this upgrade works normally without any errors. (if you want, I can send instructions to you email) What do you think about this?
Hello my friend. Yes please send me. I am curious to read this. Keith.Joi@gmail.com
iRepair Autos www.drive2.ru/o/b/1671175
iRepair Autos sorry, but instructions only in Russian language, maybe can be translated by Google translate
iRepair Autos Also I found the bushing for flapes (in Ukraine), if you would to replace them: www.drive2.ru/o/b/1671175
I would just purchase new one because they're about $300 on eBay.
Wheres the rebuild video? Your more than a mechanic, your an engineer.
its magnesium not aluminium. just do you know.
You're right.
Thank you for your informative video, can you write down the part numbers for these flaps
I'll be adding them to the description soon.
It's not rebuildable nor worth your time to even attempt. The cost of a new one is less costly for the rebuild. The issue with replacing this part is getting to it, which takes an insane amount of time and associated dissemble of parts.
Problem is the cheap aftermarket ones are garbage and the OEM ones are mad expensive. Very easy to rebuild these if you know what you are doing. Most people don't.
I did one of these today.. They thing fell apart just taking it off...The guy brings me some Dorman fix it kit that was shit..As every damn servo arm control rod was broke, And the Control rod valves just fell in the intake...Guy was so cheap. He didn't even want to change the intake gaskets. Not the bitch is stuck in my drive way...
I gave him 4 days to go buy a new intake and a gasket set. Or it gets towed off....I have had it with cheap ass MB owners...I'm never working on one again...
you re gonna ruin your knife
You have good hobby ,but your not a mechanic at all.
Never claimed to be one. Lol
@@iRepairAutos hello are you still out there??✋ if so I have a question, hope you can help me with. I when went to get smog check today.he didn't put it on the computer because he found a problem(P2006) and the readout said that my manifold was stuck / closed. how can I explain that to a mechanic? And what does it mean ? thank you Dolores👍
@@sexxxxygranny hello. Yes I'm here. I your mechanic should know what that means. If he doesn't then I might try to find another mechanic. You can tell him that the Mercedes has internal flaps that open And close variably. Depending on how fast your driving. Sometimes these flaps get stuck open or closed because of gunk buildup. Sometimes they're stuck Because the plastic runner breaks.
@@iRepairAutos thx sounds simply enuff., yes i have to find 1.(machanic)
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