DEVIN TOWNSEND PODCAST #3: Infinity

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
  • So this is episode 3, about the album 'Infinity' (which followed City and Ocean Machine). I warn you going into this: I am confusing in the ways I explain this one. There are so many things I would like to say and honestly, I'm barely able to be coherent about it all here. Once it gets going it makes a bit more sense, but it takes a while to warm up... and really, fair play. This was a hard thing to record and discuss, and in reviewing it, I still didn't find myself able to even scratch the surface. Regardless, Infinity was exactly where I was at the time, so I have no 'regrets', but you know...yikes. Anyways, I hope you enjoy this as in any case, I tried to at least be honest...(maybe a bit hard on myself, but honest nonetheless). Take care - Dev
    (0:00) - Dev’s difficult relationship with Infinity
    (10:40) - Psychedelics
    (17:32) - The genesis of Infinity
    (25:18) - The concept / Writing Truth
    (43:42) - Recording Infinity / Cause and effect
    (1:10:25) - The spider dream / The lesson of Infinity
    (1:13:22) - Dev’s obsession with Infinity
    (1:17:28) - Artistic accountability / The psychiatric institution
    (1:21:14) - The album cover
    (1:24:27) - Truth
    (1:26:38) - Christeen
    (1:27:41) - Bad Devil
    (1:29:11) - War
    (1:30:55) - Soul Driven Cadillac
    (1:32:04) - Ants
    (1:33:12) - Colonial Boy
    (1:34:46) - Dynamics
    (1:35:48) - Unity
    (1:41:41) - Moving on from Infinity
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 321

  • @seanentrikin9263
    @seanentrikin9263 4 роки тому +223

    "I WAS WRONG"... one of the most powerful and important phrases we, as humans, can think and proclaim. The maturity and growth this man has gone through is inspiring and brave. Kudos Devin. Thank you for sharing this!

    • @baubfaget
      @baubfaget 4 роки тому +6

      that " I was wrong" was an ax to the trunk. I felt that shit viscerally. ooof! my heart thing.

    • @distorq
      @distorq 4 роки тому +7

      I teared up a little.. powerful words.

    • @RobWaterman
      @RobWaterman 3 роки тому

      one of my favorite subreddits: www.reddit.com/r/IWasWrongAllAlong/

    • @nickparton5663
      @nickparton5663 2 роки тому +2

      Yep. Think about how few people out there are prepared to say that.

  • @ww1980kolo
    @ww1980kolo 4 роки тому +47

    My God... this is truly Devin cracking his skull open and letting us feast on the goo within. Thank you for this, sir. It is one of the best and most honest, cathartic and inspiring talks I’ve ever heard. Keep them coming!

  • @Monkey-fv2km
    @Monkey-fv2km 4 роки тому +19

    These must be the most positive comment sections I've ever seen on UA-cam.

  • @dlimmel
    @dlimmel 4 роки тому +19

    if this doesn't shake you to core, nothing will, Townsend is a blessing to us all.

  • @harleysrocknrollchat
    @harleysrocknrollchat 4 роки тому +59

    This is like sitting in on the ultimate psychiatrist session. wow. I hope this is therapeutic for Devin.

  • @davidgrenfell596
    @davidgrenfell596 4 роки тому +53

    Dev, having read your book and thinking I got to know you on a more personal level, these podcasts have truly allowed me to feel more of a connection to you in a way that the book lacked to some degree. This particular record allowed me to grow more as a person during a difficult time in my life. It opened my eyes to things in life that my eyes and mind were blinded to, and tracks like War, Soul Driven Cadillac and Truth were conduits in which I was able to attain a connection with life that I was lacking. A younger version of myself was deaf to the layers of which this record must be consumed in, so while I dug the record, it wasn't a stand out record like Terria or Ocean Machine was for me at the time. Now that I have grown more as an adult, Infinity is a record I return to quite often when I need to reconnect to that perfect headspace that it helped create. Thank you so much for taking time to divulge these personal bits on each record for us to enjoy. You have had an impact on my awkward teenage life, all the way up to the present adulthood I am at now, and will forever be one of my favorite musicians of all time. Don't stop being the Dev.

  • @Hegder
    @Hegder 4 роки тому +14

    I had no idea Infinity was such a hard album for you and that it was such a bad time in your life. I have always thought it sounded so life-affirming that I am somewhat stunned listening to this episode. Thank you again for sharing. These episodes are invaluable.

  • @caelenkibler6049
    @caelenkibler6049 4 роки тому +34

    Your ability to be open about transgressions of your own and others as well as being willing to reflect on these darker times is extremely commendable. When i started this podcast journey on ocean machine, I wasnt expecting you to keep that transparency as strong as you have continued to do cause i sure as hell wouldnt expect anyone too and I know right now in my life I couldnt. Ive already said thank you and so has everyone else 10000 times but still, i appreciate this connection you are still making with all of us after all these years especially at this level. Cant wait for this to keep going.

  • @timcantrell3313
    @timcantrell3313 4 роки тому +8

    I was honored to be at one of your last shows this tour, in Atlanta! You were playing War and I was holding my phone up to record you, while singing loudly along with you. You gave me a quick grin, mumbled something like “thats it” and that shot straight to my soul. To think of all the times I listened to that song over and over again 20 years ago, at the ripe age of 18, and here I am at 38 and my role model witnesses me singing his creation with him, and I being some random stranger.

  • @SlowlyLazily
    @SlowlyLazily 4 роки тому +42

    This is by far the most interesting episode. I loved read about it in your book and still connect with your experience as you talk about it now. This podcast is really making my days better. Thank you again for doing these, I hope you stay safe and have a good weekend.

  • @poida2734
    @poida2734 4 роки тому +13

    That quick story about the “Super Bowl” made me spit my coffee everywhere! 😂😂

    • @DlCHBICHE
      @DlCHBICHE 4 роки тому +2

      I dont understand how you can not flush any toilets for even 4 days but 2 weeks is outlandish. The smell, the mass... a real Bono!

  • @adamage13
    @adamage13 4 роки тому +14

    Ah crap. Was hoping to hear about “Noisy Pink Bubbles”. One of my favorite moments on the album is the lonely “You never could tell by the face he was starting to go....” section.

    • @Behemoth78
      @Behemoth78 4 роки тому +2

      a-damage13 yeah I also wondered why he didn’t go into that song? My fav from the album. And yes that one section...

    • @edwardnigma8996
      @edwardnigma8996 4 роки тому +2

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice. That song is 👍

  • @RicardoPetinga
    @RicardoPetinga 4 роки тому +14

    These podcasts have been such an incredible gift!
    I wish he hadn't forgotten to talk about Noisy Pinkbubbles. That is such a powerful song for me.
    I don't know if Devin reads any of these comments, but I wish I could tell him that for me, and I'm sure for many of us, he's so much more than just a musician, he's also a teacher, a guide if you will, or someone that, through his music and insights, travels alongside us in this journey of life, helping us surpass our obstacles and reflect on our choices. His music has been with me for over 20 years. I was instantly fascinated when I first heard it and my appreciation has only grown.

  • @solarwinds5114
    @solarwinds5114 4 роки тому +31

    "The best way out is through"
    Wow. Just wow.

    • @all_invite_0hm
      @all_invite_0hm 4 роки тому +5

      Reminds me of a lyric from the Cave In song "Iron Decibels" which made a lot of sense and helped me:
      "Don't search for any meaning, forward into the gold"

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 4 роки тому +8

    Hello people. This is a great example of self reflection. A lot of people should be able to benefit from listening to the very fabric and perceptions of Devin’s mind. There is a beauty in cross examining one’s experience good or bad. I have personally done 21 Ayahuasca ceremonies and thankfully have become a better man for it. Call it what you will weather it is getting your reset button pushed or delving hard into spiritual body building, psychedelic experiences help and broaden our perceptions and definitely help cross examine who we actually are and what kind of relationship we want to have or establish with our planet earth. 🥰

  • @auditoryarmory
    @auditoryarmory 4 роки тому +4

    I just listened to this while in the hammock in our backyard looking up at the canopy of trees, sunlight through the leaves. This podcast episode moved me and there aren't enough words to describe how much I connected to this. So I will just say thank you Devin for your courage and vulnerability in offering this to us. 🙏🏼

    • @auditoryarmory
      @auditoryarmory 4 роки тому

      Also, coincidentally, the first time I tried acid I was listening to The New Black by SYL, and "Almost Again" really encapsulated my experience and that song has a lot of significance to me.

  • @64wy4x8s
    @64wy4x8s 4 роки тому +6

    1:21:18 Cover of Infinity - Why is he naked?
    1:24:26 Truth
    1:26:38 Christeen
    1:27:42 Bad Devil
    1:29:11 War
    1:30:52 Soul Driven
    1:32:04 Ants
    1:33:05 Colonial Boy
    1:34:46 Dynamics
    Devin forgot to talk about Noisy Pink bubbles

  • @Liz-cmc313
    @Liz-cmc313 4 роки тому +8

    Listening to you makes me feel it's just the two of us. An intimate interview. Thank you for being the One.

  • @lesliewilliams7889
    @lesliewilliams7889 4 роки тому +2

    i never had any friends who were fans of Devin, so it's neat to come here and see all these other nerds soaking it up like i am. wish we could all sit by a fire and enjoy each others company :)

  • @chaitea9448
    @chaitea9448 4 роки тому +3

    These podcasts have meant so much to me. I'm heading toward 50 and I still struggle to heal, change, and grow. When I hear Dev laugh, I feel like everything is going to be okay.

  • @mincentprice1041
    @mincentprice1041 2 роки тому +1

    This whole pandemic has been very traumatizing - So many of us feel such a personal connection through your art and interviews. You sharing your most personal experiences and struggles with us through these podcasts - only cements that bond. A lot of us have had tremendously dark times. Your incredible music and voice have been the soundtrack to my personal redemption. What's amazing is there are so many others that have found strength and beauty in your art, at moments when they can be so hard to find.

  • @gener2842
    @gener2842 3 роки тому +1

    Kudos to you Devin for obliterating the notion that substances, or mental dysfunction are prerequisites for compelling creativity. Your body of work in sobriety is incredible and shows those things are impediments more than catalysts

  • @stmayhem1
    @stmayhem1 4 роки тому +2

    It's interesting that beyond all the drama, pain and suffering, the actual music remains amazing and mind-blowing. I'm glad Devin recovered from ego-inflation, but art remains timeless.

  • @YourFriendToodles
    @YourFriendToodles 4 роки тому +49

    I cannot wait for Ziltoid or Deconstruction and Addicted

    • @dantemorris2874
      @dantemorris2874 4 роки тому +4

      If you can track them down, the Contain Us boxset included album commentaries for Ki, Addicted, Deconstruction and Ghost that are similiar to these podcasts and worth a listen.

    • @solarwinds5114
      @solarwinds5114 4 роки тому +1

      @@dantemorris2874 good luck finding a copy of Contain Us, it's rare

    • @JuBer_87
      @JuBer_87 4 роки тому +2

      I have a feeling that there won't be so much to discuss at that stage. It seems to me that Ziltoid and Deconstruction sort of wrap up the angst and issues Devin had during Infinity and SYL. Ziltoid is the narcissist persona Devin described in this Podcast.

    • @brnperes
      @brnperes 4 роки тому +3

      www.mediafire.com/file/9uju9mh7frqh29t/Devin_Townsend_-_Album_Commentary.zip/file

  • @trentnoonanposivibes
    @trentnoonanposivibes 4 роки тому +11

    Man I feel this hard. I remember sitting down with you a bunch of times between 97-99 an talking in depth with you about many of these same things but from a different perspective. I knew something wasn’t right with your aura but mine wasn’t right either. So I was confused as, what I knew an what was being said an portrayed, about you, was so out of context ,I felt I couldnt make up my mind if you were “the one” or if I was just searching for someone to place that title on. An I had to just let it go an say to my self, ahh it’s juss all messed in my head, Dev is awesome, I’m awesome, let’s roll on. I eventually had breakdown an lost my world as I knew it. It’s true we are all, “the one”. We r all “PART” of the one. Well said and to hear you talk this way is juss beautiful man an makes me feel happy for you an even proud. You’re a hell of a human Devy, thank you for all you do.
    ❤️🤘🏻❤️

  • @madspanner4870
    @madspanner4870 4 роки тому +2

    Devin, thank you so much for this. I've had a similar trip that derailed my whole life, alienating my family and all the friends I had, crashing out of university and getting into tons of debt. That messiah complex looking back is haunting...I'm so regretful on how much I had hurt the people closest to me and how far from reality my delusions were. I was put on anti-psychotics and took years to rebuild my life, personality even. The 'Devin Townsend Project' quadrilogy at the time (Ki-Ghost) was huge for me when recovering from my suicidal state relating to 'deconstruction' and certain songs and lyrics. Heaven Send for example 'How can heaven be so fanatical?'. I felt alone, but your music resonated with me helping me put the pieces back together. This podcast episode has done so much for me, thank you' - Mike

  • @dogfancy
    @dogfancy 4 роки тому +2

    “Clear yourself, so you are causing the least amount of suffering to yourself; by your own hand”. Very well put and a very important thing to take away from this. Very much enjoyed this episode. Thank you Dev.

  • @molletre9606
    @molletre9606 3 роки тому +1

    I agree that "Mad Scientist" cover (I think it was on Metal Hammer Magazine) was very misplaced and I felt a bit uncomfortable as I read the whole thing back then.
    As fantastic as Infinity was, it was literally visible that Devin was not in a very healthy condition, body & mind, and that something very wrong was happening.
    In retrospective it was the unhealthy combination of psycho drugs (as he says himself) and a hyper-active/curious mind, that was burning with the speed of light (even without the drugs).
    To such bright burning minds, full of thoughts, fire and energy, psychedelic drugs are often way too much too handle.
    I am happy Devin hit the breaks before it was too late and keeps blessing us with such wonderful music.

  • @kaliyepalata9973
    @kaliyepalata9973 4 роки тому +22

    I'd love to hear a podcast on accelerated evolution.

    • @squanchy666
      @squanchy666 4 роки тому

      Well hang in there, we're getting to it

    • @moarawkwarder
      @moarawkwarder 4 роки тому +1

      Mmm, cannot wait for that one - Storm was my fave DTP song for a long time. Most of my friends got off the Dev train after Physicist, but AE had a profound impact on me (and my connection to nature in a tangential way, alongside Terria). Also Deadhead seems to be his career-defining song nowadays, so interested to hear his thoughts on that

  • @d-5037
    @d-5037 4 роки тому +11

    Can't wait to listen. Infinity and Terria are _the_ albums that introduced me into the hevydevyland.

  • @stevemartinez1360
    @stevemartinez1360 4 роки тому +4

    This is one of the most insightful and fascinating things I’ve heard in my 40 years of life. Thank you sincerely.

  • @gmorkins6006
    @gmorkins6006 4 роки тому +4

    This wasn't easy to talk about Dev, I can tell, thank you for sharing it with us

  • @OrpheumGreg
    @OrpheumGreg 4 роки тому +2

    "Redemption". Your words resonate so hard in me, this is very powerfull. These experiences forged the accomplished musician and human being you are today. Very inspiring, as always.

  • @kaarutomuson
    @kaarutomuson 4 роки тому +4

    Ugly, and a catharsis for the listener to hear what was going on behind all this. It's one thing to read shit in a magazine, and even to read between the lines, and think, maybe he really went through this for real, and it wasn't some cool rebellious rock-star thing. But this makes it all clear. All delivered honestly, despite the difficulties and complexity in expressing the situation. And you are not 50 yet. C'mon, you're like 3 years older than me, which means your music got out just in time to provide a soundtrack to me going through my own shit, for which I am very grateful.

  • @kara0211
    @kara0211 4 роки тому +3

    1:05:30
    "Truth is I thought it mattered
    "
    "I thought that music mattered"
    "But does it? Bollocks
    "
    "Not compared to our people matter" -Chumbawamba
    Could be unrelated, but that quote immediately surfaced in my head when I heard that

  • @BigStevie
    @BigStevie 4 роки тому +8

    What a Good Friday indeed! Devin Townsend Podcast: To Infinity & Beyond!! Thank you Devin!!!

  • @krushruss
    @krushruss 4 роки тому

    I hope you keep doing these Dev, I thoroughly enjoy listening to these. They make working from home so much better!

  • @Mrbungleface0u818
    @Mrbungleface0u818 4 роки тому +3

    Such a underrated album. Completely ahead of its time and still holds down today among the new. Blows me away everytime and I've been listening for years and years. Such a top tier album top to bottom

  • @DonJoeBob
    @DonJoeBob 4 роки тому +3

    Amazing honest confessional of losing one's mind. I love the album even with the pain it caused Devin and those around him, glad that apparently all have healed. That closing statement at the end (1:43:25) is how I strive to live my life.

  • @MrJack8782
    @MrJack8782 4 роки тому

    These pods are beautiful. I hope you keep doing these after all the albums. We love you dev.

  • @Dansteindler
    @Dansteindler 3 роки тому +1

    I can’t thank you enough for sharing all of this, Devin. I am truly grateful.

  • @naynaynay324
    @naynaynay324 4 роки тому +1

    It is the base condition of every conscious person to go from knowing you exist, to thinking your existence is original and then accept we're all just existing in a flow of knowledge.

  • @froag4003
    @froag4003 4 роки тому +3

    I look forward to these more than anything else as of recently.

  • @thomasduray2131
    @thomasduray2131 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Devin, for these podcasts, your music and your soul that shine in every songs you made. I whish you the best!!

  • @alec666100
    @alec666100 4 роки тому

    Thanks Devin for these insights to such great music. Be sure that when it's hard to talk about something, you are sharing something valuable to others that go through the same things. Stay strong over there in these messed up times and we'll be there on the other side.

  • @jonnyarmstrong
    @jonnyarmstrong 3 роки тому

    Thanks Devin. These podcasts are such a force for good and positivity. Could listen to you talk all day.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 4 роки тому +1

    This podcast also resonates with me in ways. I used to be very self-righteous and still struggle with reminding myself that I might be more wrong than most and shouldn't get pompous and too proud. My ex-girlfriend finally taught me empathy, but it has been a nasty lesson of my own character, how flawed it is. I also really want to give to others, that might've been the core of all my issues when I was younger, but struggle finding ways and also get something for myself as well. Bumping into hard things every time you soften yourself and then hardening as a result again. Giving to others but draining yourself with that at the same time and then becoming ultimately selfish. The struggle to find the balance. Thanks for doing these podcasts, they work as group therapy, to hear someone else also struggles with life and tries to learn what it is to be human and live a good life, have a meaning. Being forgiving and supportive to others, and to yourself.

  • @idleengines229
    @idleengines229 4 роки тому +6

    Devin, thanks so much for doing these podcast!!! I'm loving hearing you talk about the process behind the music without having an interviewer injecting themselves into or derailing the conversation. I'm really hoping you'll shed more insight into how you went from being the guy that knew something just wasn't right about the "Ocean Machine" masters and not knowing how to fix it to being the genius arranger/mixer you proved yourself to be on "Empath". I think that would be so valuable to many of us who are somewhere in the middle of that journey.
    We've heard over and over that an artist shouldn't mix his own records, and, while almost always true, you just destroyed that argument by doing something the greatest mixers on the planet couldn't match with "Empath", which I consider to be the most daring and emotionally complete album in the history of recorded music (that I'm aware of at least). And how is this going unnoticed? Where are the grammys? Why isn't Pensado's Place beating your door down trying to get you on the show to unravel this mystery?? Oh, because the secret isn't the plug-ins or the gear? It's got to be the ideas, the vision and the inability to let things go when what's coming through the speakers isn't meeting one's standards sonically or emotionally. Perhaps that combined with a ton of time and a little OCD?
    I think you've broken through a new level where the writing, arranging and mixing have melded together into something new. You've turned mixing into a compositional tool and it seems to me like the inevitable next step in the evolution of record making. Please tell us more!!

  • @NeedForStorms
    @NeedForStorms 4 роки тому +1

    This series is amazingly binge-worthy! I grew up listening to Terria and Ocean Machine nearly on constant repeat. So great to hear the stories behind this back catalog!

  • @johncollyeraravena7968
    @johncollyeraravena7968 4 роки тому

    Hey Dev, thank you very much for this journey you're sharing with us. Love to you and your family. Stay safe ❤

  • @lilplantlet
    @lilplantlet 4 роки тому

    What an amazing episode! Thank you Devin for being so honest about your experiences and even your downfalls! I’d love to hear you talk some more about spirituality and your insights in how this whole human existence thing means to you/to us all.

  • @ChadBillAnderson
    @ChadBillAnderson 4 роки тому

    Thank you so so so much for sharing your experiences and perspectives in such a public and vulnerable way. The insights and inspirations I am gleaning from listening to these podcasts are great, and plentiful.

  • @jamesthompson9395
    @jamesthompson9395 4 роки тому

    Another amazing album and another insightful and inspiring podcast. Thank you Devin. 🙏

  • @naegrant4722
    @naegrant4722 4 роки тому +1

    Devin got heavy in an entirely different way for this one. I appreciate how unflinching and open he is about himself and his actions, this cannot be easy to put out in a public sphere. Grasping your mistakes and knowing what lessons to take from them; that's what we're here for. Kudos to Devin for another great podcast ep.

  • @jreyes8838
    @jreyes8838 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you devin for the insight into your albums and to yourself at the time of making of each album. It is inspiring to know over the course of time you have come to peace with a lot of these albums. Of course it's from a different perspective, but regardless wisdom sometimes only comes with age.

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato 4 роки тому +1

    This is such great insight. You've always mentioned every album corresponds to your overall life/mental state, but always kind of glossed over the particular circumstances. I think it takes courage too, to expose your past without "romanticizing" it as you say

  • @stayheavypdx
    @stayheavypdx 4 роки тому

    Excellent.. thank you
    One of the more insightful transparencies of an album I've listened

  • @GeoffBarone
    @GeoffBarone 2 роки тому +1

    1:25:02 I remember playing this specific part of Truth over and over again. It was a mind blowing experience. Now I come to find out that when it does go into mono; it was all just a mistake.

  • @mitcheldenhartog1886
    @mitcheldenhartog1886 4 роки тому +2

    That was incredible.
    I can't say anything to accurately express just how thankful I am to hear this.
    But...thank you.

  • @mreverythingman1958
    @mreverythingman1958 4 роки тому +1

    Wow......just wow. This episode has helped me so much in ways I can't even begin to try to find the words to explain. Thank you, Devin.

  • @connermcgoat7594
    @connermcgoat7594 4 роки тому

    Brother you have brought so much soul through your ❤. I will support with continued faith in your career and as a human being you are a shining example of a loving, honest talented wonderfully flawed human🦋❤🦋 I thankyou so much with all the love and entertainment you have manifested devin. Only spiritually will heal this world.

  • @Benskingdom
    @Benskingdom 4 роки тому

    Great Podcast Dev. Really nice to hear you articulate you past experiences. It really helps me to put my life into some kind of context. God bless you. 😊

  • @DragonQuarter
    @DragonQuarter 4 роки тому

    Wanted to let you know I greatly appreciated the Dr. Steve Brule mentions; cracked me up! And of course, greatly appreciate yourself opening up about these intense, heavy experiences. Infinity was the first album I heard by you. Right from hearing Truth going into Christeen I just KNEW that I would love all of your music. Also just wanted to say that the sound of your voice and that low-key dreamy backing track has been very therapeutic for me. I have loved ones affected by this COVID-19 situation and this has helped me ease the anxiety a little.

  • @Batsquid_
    @Batsquid_ 4 роки тому +4

    Man, knowing how Devin’s music works, where each album has this association to his mindset at some given time, I hope performing old songs isn’t something that feels destructive or negative for him. For example, I really like Bad Devil and War off of Infinity here, but if playing those songs means clawing at old scabs left by a shit period of Devy’s life, I wouldn’t want to indirectly hurt him like that. I know he’s said he made his peace with that part of his life, but I hope the same can be said for the music that became of it.
    Always gonna appreciate Devy’s art, whatever direction it goes in, but damn I hope he’s still down to clown with his older music.

  • @python395
    @python395 4 роки тому +2

    Damn. When I was 15 or so I started smoking weed and that opened up my awareness to see my thoughts in a new way. I began to question reality and meditate to find what is really true in this world. I found pieces of art that would showcase this a bit like the Beatles or other prog/ prog metal bands.
    Then when I was 16 I found Devys music and I absolutely fell in love. The music was so compelling and true to me. Then of course one night I was listening to War off of Infinity and I hear "in the morning bout a 3 or so, cant stop thinking about what I know... cant stop thinking about the universe.... god is in the mountains, as is in the rock, and god is not concerned about keeping stock" and that shook me because I realize his experiences was very similar to what I was going through.
    Ironically, while tripping on mushrooms a few years later while listening to Soul Driven, I had the experience he was describing, and literally interpreted it the same way. I was the second coming of Jesus or Buddha here to awaken humanity and bring world peace.
    I have since learned the lessons I needed to, and dont have a complete Christ complex. But its quite funny that to this very album about the experience he was having I had a very similar experience. Shits weird yo

  • @millerlightmoose
    @millerlightmoose 4 роки тому +2

    I studied music in school and my parents had always told me that I was talented and special. I sort of developed a similar mentality, thinking that I was better than everyone. Thinking that everything I touched was gold. 10 years later I’m happy I grew out of it. to hear that I’m not the only one who has ever struggled with this, especially someone who is also a musician and how this mentality affects the process has been invaluable. Thank you for opening up and speaking your truth.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 4 роки тому

      I think everyone goes through that phase in life, or at least they should go through it. I have breaking fucking news for all you guys: without EGO nothing ever gets done in this world. Supressing ego is not the ultimate answer that you guys all love to rave about.

  • @boltman1974
    @boltman1974 4 роки тому

    Thank you Dev, that was an amazing listen. I’m glad you could talk about this all and help get it out of your system. X

  • @thatguitarguy99
    @thatguitarguy99 4 роки тому +3

    Someone could make a movie based on this podcast alone. Tons of insight and such an interesting series of events for young Devin

  • @_waveseven_
    @_waveseven_ 4 роки тому +1

    Really means something to hear Dev’s perspective on this, as someone who has (much more mildly) struggled with the experience of radical non-dualism -this helps clear some things up in my own psychology

  • @thescoon1
    @thescoon1 4 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for this podcast since I first heard Infinity when I was 16. There was something about this record that changed me, and it's weird to now hear all the similarities between my experiences as a teen and yours (replace Fist of the North Star, which is sick by the way, with Neon Genesis). But if it's any consolation, I always interpreted the sense of 'oneness' from this album as a sense of oneness with life, and all things that affect somebody, and trying understand your place in that whole, and that's why it felt so profound to me. That's what is so amazing about art; people take from it interpretations that might help them, even if the intention of the artist was different.
    Thanks for making life-changing music.

  • @garrisonturner5670
    @garrisonturner5670 4 роки тому

    Whether or not you read these Devin, thank you for your honesty. Thank you for sharing the wisdom you've gained and allow yourself to be vulnerable with your audience. Your words encouraging introspection and seeking help if needed just may help people as much as your music and art. Thank you.

  • @muntificator
    @muntificator 4 роки тому +17

    So Empath is kinda like anti-Infinity in a lot of ways

    • @monsieurabsurd1395
      @monsieurabsurd1395 4 роки тому +9

      That's been my impression after I listened to Empath. It's anti-infinty or what infinity would be like if it were written today in his current state of mind and without all the drugs.

    • @d-5037
      @d-5037 4 роки тому +7

      Interesting perspective. To me it's also interesting that those two records are maybe my favorites.

  • @patrickward3850
    @patrickward3850 4 роки тому +1

    Still listening through the discography Devin i am almost fully enlightened... very interesting story as well. You rock!

  • @distorq
    @distorq 4 роки тому +7

    These podcasts have been extremely Insightful. I've only started listening to your music about 2 or 3 years ago and in that time you've gone from "that weird prog dude who's music I kinda like" to my favorite artist. And I know this is awkward to hear, but some of us can't helpt it ok! Haha.
    Anyway. I never knew the story behind these albums and have only guessed by trying to Interpret the music and lyrics. My point being: even though you don't know, even though some albums and the making of them have caused others harm. Your music, almost all of it, has helped me channel emotions, has helped me open up to people, and has had a general positive impact on my life and possibly subsequently the lives of others trough mine.
    That I think is the beauty of art. You maybe didn't mean to help in some stages of your career, but you unknowingly did. I know there are many others that have found (some) solace and recognition in your work.
    I can feel that this is a difficult one to talk about, so I wanted to point out some of the positives. Keep doing what you're doing, you're doing great!

  • @scottnixon9236
    @scottnixon9236 4 роки тому

    Again. Thank you. I can really relate to this one. Went threw a similar xo at a youthful time period in my life. Its awesome to be able to reflect but even more importantly, share your revelation. Cheers Mr.Dev.

  • @TheNightmareRider
    @TheNightmareRider 4 роки тому

    I can see where Devin is coming from with his philosophical musings of "oneness". I too went through a phase of new-age spiritualism and Astral Projection in my teens, and though I am very much a skeptical atheist now, I can still see the value in fables and stories that express feelings of unity within our culture. We all are part of one planet, a pale blue dot spinning in space.
    We may chose our individual paths in life with no set destiny laid out for us, but we still contribute to society as a whole in some way or another. So the more we help each other form a cohesive, caring unit, the more we can thrive!

  • @wizarddragon
    @wizarddragon 4 роки тому +1

    I totally get what you mean by going over these albums reopening your state of mind and experiences during that particular time period. This is what connects your fans to you. Relistening to your music, any music you love for that matter will take you back to that time period to relive your state of mind and experiences. We all experience the same emotions throughout our lives. We all are walking along this path together separated only by space and time.

  • @edusszfx
    @edusszfx 3 роки тому +1

    This was so heavy... So painfully honest!
    I definitely took a lot out of this, and I thank you, Devin, for sharing!

  • @bassmartyr
    @bassmartyr 4 роки тому

    Wow this episode was incredible! This has to be one of the best episodes of any podcast I've ever heard.
    Thank you so much Devin for having the courage to tell us this story.

  • @depthchargestu7867
    @depthchargestu7867 4 роки тому

    Thank you Dev for the openness and honesty, peace and love to all.

  • @jordanstuck747
    @jordanstuck747 4 роки тому +1

    To say the least, I'm loving these podcasts! The making of albums has always been a fascinating process especially when someone is in that kind of head space. Very powerful words

  • @chrixtopherjane
    @chrixtopherjane 4 роки тому

    This podcast series is cathartic. Both for us listening, and (it seems) for you making it. Stay strong. It's good, positive content.

  • @uncertainultradian
    @uncertainultradian 4 роки тому +1

    This is just damn good listening. Interesting, subdued and explorative.

  • @peterdonnell3784
    @peterdonnell3784 4 роки тому

    Wow I learnt a lot here, thank you for sharing Dev, this can't have been easy, but it's very much appreciated

  • @ianvanvliet296
    @ianvanvliet296 4 роки тому +2

    Jesus Dev, that's beautiful and tragic and humbling man... I'm sorry and grateful for what you went through

  • @samjerbs
    @samjerbs 4 роки тому

    Thank you, Devin. For everything. Truly and sincerely

  • @JoeyDBIV
    @JoeyDBIV 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you! No pressure. We''ll love 'em when you post 'em.

  • @jxfine
    @jxfine 4 роки тому

    Thanks for doing these Dev. It's great to hear these stories, even the ugly parts. Always leaves me looking forward to the next one, (evening you're going to tear down one of my favorite records.) Buttttt....maybe avoid the sports analogies. 🤣 Love ya man!

  • @DrToddBoddMD
    @DrToddBoddMD 3 роки тому

    Dev, you’ve been the single biggest influence on my musical tastes, and now, you’re one of the biggest influences on my real life. I can’t draw any true comparisons to your life, but I’m, at this point, going through some shit that can be somewhat compared to since of what you dealt with. This specific episode hit home for me, I honestly feel like you spoke directly to me, and I want to thank you for everything you’ve done, both musically and otherwise. You’re literally the best, don’t let anyone, or yourself, tell you otherwise lol

  • @Mr_Gray_Sky
    @Mr_Gray_Sky 4 роки тому +2

    I'm in tears listening to this.

  • @derrickcramer4277
    @derrickcramer4277 3 роки тому +1

    "The character is so drawn to the light that he's willing to destroy himself to participate in it... but as an entity he is evolutionarily not capable of understanding." This was incredible.

  • @marcussabom2696
    @marcussabom2696 4 роки тому

    Thank you for making these podcasts

  • @sicklefinger
    @sicklefinger 4 роки тому

    Damn, Devin. That was serious and better than just an explanation of the music/production. I'm seeing your career and music in a new light (not that I knew what the hell your motivations were). This discussion didn't sound easy to do. Thanks.

  • @pin-upmariposa412
    @pin-upmariposa412 4 роки тому

    Thank You very much for this podcast. Last days was very difficult for me. I try to clean mess in my head (my Ying and Yang can't find balans so I fight with this state). I can do this and I belive in this. I understand everything what You say in your podcast (without alcohol and rest stuff experiens - that worse). This episod was hard to me but I need this. Thank You Sir and take care about Yourself.

  • @timothee865
    @timothee865 3 роки тому

    Awesome dude. Thanks for sharing Dev

  • @misscoffeebeans
    @misscoffeebeans 4 роки тому

    Devin Pown...ugh, whatever my name is.
    Seriously though, these podcasts have been the highlight of my days, I'm loving listening to Devin and his thoughts and his honestly. Dev if you read this, thank you for opening up yourself in such a personal way for us to hear.

  • @Brzeczyszczykiewable
    @Brzeczyszczykiewable 4 роки тому +1

    Podcast about the album ... But I have a feeling that I visited a very good psychotherapist. Thank you so much, mr Townsend

  • @seba5837
    @seba5837 4 роки тому

    I remember that i was full into SYL (didnt know about DTB at that time) and a friend lended me "Infinity", i was just 17 ... i still had that rage and beautifull madness with CITY in my universe (sometimes til 2day) went to my house and listened from Truth to Unity... and it was the most mind liberation experience i had at that point, for example .... with Master of puppetz i discovered that Metal and distorted guitars was my stuff... but years after, then with infinity i discovered that life is complex and you need a personal way out of all reality and structured social construction as we know it.... Til this day DYNAMICS is an statement for me, mind liberation in all aspects.. that record is pure philosophy and thanks for that Dev. (waiting for moooore podcastsss!!! When ZILTOIIDDD!!! (1 by the way, the Z2 is just the second part of a weird movie but Z1 is a real dream)

  • @hardrocker498
    @hardrocker498 4 роки тому

    i love these so much. thank you dev

  • @aracknoinfiniteeseekertrip9689
    @aracknoinfiniteeseekertrip9689 4 роки тому

    Devin my friend, I can only applaud that where your guitars chose your albums that fit best as you said you didn't need one there! Symphony of truth is what I pictured laying listening to this and all the very familiar concepts! There is no final destination, but I like the look of the trail your transcending if it's honesty how you feel! People would look at me perplexed when I would state with music I often would bypass lyrics for just the tones and sounds going in the flow that they did! Obviously your lyrics like perhaps Nevermore, and Opeth (as a personal reference) I find ones I do listen to with meaningful depth and meaning of course! But my point is listening to your self reflected comments about ocean machine was very interesting because your music in that album portrayed what you said you intended in my opinion, and your lyrics seemed to be at odds to that! Makes sence with artistic too logic or right vs left hemispheres of the brain competing ETC! But facinating hearing all of your new thoughts pertaining to everything! You even had some humor thrown in like the grey spider biting you stating it's what death was like being my favorite honestly despite how it could have been perceived to some I guess! It's the process, and like anything interesting in its inner workings this just adds even more to be enjoyed from your past albums that due to circumstances I don't have all of like I used to because of unfortunate situations, but does nothing short of motivated me even more to require them into my collection wich has not wavered at all! I will say though I'm envious of your guitar collection though lol! But from the sounds of it you won't have to learn the hard way like some the importance and value of some things untill one doesn't have them, or appreciate before it's gone and all that! Most great things were born from mistakes, and even more so the most grand and cosmically incredible and beautiful things were created and/or acknowledged as a biproduct of moving forward from those learning experiences in my opinion!!! "If you can see the world as a grain of sand the right energy can change the world in the palm of your hand"! And remember you made "Deconstruction" not "Implosion"! Hats off to you brotha, I feel lucky to have gotten to listen to this regardless of whatever my role is in all this! Time will decide that, and untill then I'll keep enjoying and learning all I can, however i can, whenever! Looking forward to at least a few more of these..... before I kick the can at any rate lol! Thanks again!