Another solution (if you want to keep your original axle) is spray welding, you can add material on the thinner section then machine it. For the people that doesn't know what is it, it's like giving a shower of molten metal sparks to your piece while he's turning on a lathe. You end up with a raw larger OD that can be machined. However, I have no idea how much is the average cost... I guess it's not too expensive being a pretty simple process. I'm watching your videos from Italy, I think you are a very good fabricator man, don't stop making videos! You are also very, very good to explain even difficult concepts. Don't underestimate this dude. If you can, keep it up. Cheers 🤙
Thank you my friend! I’ve never heard of that process. I think a greater challenge than cost is finding someone that can do it. It was hard enough finding someone to simply cut and re-spline my axles. 🤷♂️ I appreciate your kind words. And I’m happy to hear that my videos are making it all the way to Italy! Thank you again! And there’s more videos on the way soon. Cheers!
@@GarageFab Thank YOU! I'm happy that my weird english is understandable 🤣. Btw, there are several channels here on youtube that shows the process if you are interested, one of them is Abom79. I'm really far from the US but after a quick look online seems to have multiple places that provides the service. Maybe some of them are working online (shipping). Thank you for your answer, you looks a very dedicated and passionate person! I hope to see more videos coming up! Have a great day man!
@@GarageFab Check out Abom79's videos on this process. I agree, though - it's an extremely specialized process that you can't find done for cheap. Super interesting though!
I'm thinking this process just might be how they are able to do re-grinds on old camshafts that are no longer in production? I sent in my old CB 350 Honda camshaft and had it reground to different timing and profile to "hop" it up a little bit. That was done here in California by Megacycle Cams.
Arron, I used a 97 Ford Exploder rear end. I f remember correct i cut the drivers side axle tube off and cut out the rest of the tube out of the housing, cleared out the plug weld. the end i cut out was machined but i only ground the tube to refit fit back into the diff case, then I went and bought a right side axle which is 3.5" shorter then the left on the 97. It comes out to the stock mighty max axle width. Yes I should have had the tube machined would of made it easier but you know how cheap i am. I have no bearing shavings as far i am aware of. I freakin love your videos!!! I want to see your Truck!!
I do recall you using two right axle shafts. I would’ve done the same but the wheels I want to use require an axle that’s even narrower than the Mighty Max. I’ve got bad news about my truck. But rather than tell you here I’ll advise you to go check out a really cringey video I did called The Rotisserie. ua-cam.com/video/5YpPFCNMjI4/v-deo.html
Dont know the length of the rear montero sport axle but i would asume is as narrow as the 1st gen montero and as a bonus some models have disc brakes. So in essence more options also since the 97-99 is leaf spring amd the 2000 up is coil spring and both come in drum and discs. Just throwing an added option in case some one is interested in keeping 6 lug and going disc brakes.
I disagree! “If you can, you DEFINITELY should. Just realize that you probably shouldn’t have and let that determine how you use that thing you shouldn’t have done.” That would cover the whole mirror though.
Lol! You said the problem with narrowing the Mitsubishi axle is that the tube won't fit in your jig, so it's impossible to narrow. The axle is steel, so it can be welded. Make it so it bolts to the outer flanges, then has two cross braces (180° apart) welded to the inner axle tube. After you cut & trim the outer section, bolt it back into the jig with a spacer making up for the amount shortened. If you cut on an axle tube diameter change it may be possible to slide the outer section of the tube inside of the inner section (telescopic). Then it could be easier, than the Ford axle, because you wouldn't need trim out a section! I have no idea what you'll use for axle shafts!
may you make a video how to widen axles? I live in Indonesia and we do not have access to parts and tools like in the US. As we customize a lot here i want to widen my axles by nearly 3 inches... any idea?
I don’t know if I’ll have the opportunity to make that video. My next project will have CV axles rather than the solid axle like my Wife’s truck. Widening would be a very similar process. If at all possible, I would try and get two axles. You could cut the ends off one axle tube, and then cut the ends off the other axle inward 1.5 inches. Then weld on the longer ends to gain your 3 inches. The only safe option is to purchase custom axles that are made 1.5 inches longer to fit your newly made axle housing. I hope this helps! I’m excited to hear Garage Fab has reached Indonesia!! Good luck my friend!
I hope you can help me out. I just found your channel and I have a 1992 MM Manual 4g64 motor . I have swapped out the gas engine for a 2.5L 4d56 Diesel Or a brand new Hyundai d4bf turbo diesel . it was a direct bolt up to me tranny. but I would like to get a Taller gear Ratio. Like a Ford 2.73 Rear end to lower my highway rpms as it is over reving the diesel at antthing faster than 55 mph. will a Mustang rear end differential pinion flange bolt up to the MM Driveshaft?
@@2davydo It does NOT. In order to get this combination to work you’ll need to have a driveshaft made or modified. I suspect you might need to do this anyway unless the tail of your transmission is in the exact spot it was before the swap. Your custom shaft will simply have the slip yoke and front U joint that matches the transmission and the rear U joint/flange that matches the differential. Happy to have you my friend! Best of luck.
A lot of my viewers are Mighty Max owners. Not all of them would be doing a five lug conversion, or replacing their axles with a Mustang axle, so I still wanted to show them how it would be done. Obviously that didn’t work out so well. 🤷♂️
Excellent! That's awesome. I've never heard of (or more importantly seen) a Mitsubishi Van. And now I want one! I don't think they're available in the states. Would you happen to know the axle width?
Is it really? I thought something looked off but I've only seen it on my phone so far. Now to decide if I should re-upload and loose some helpful comments or just let this one slide.
Do Toyota axles have straight axle housings? My main reason for choosing Mustang is the additional power from the turbo engine. Not to mention ease of narrowing. I’d agree the Toyota axle is a great choice for a simple 5 lug conversion.
@@GarageFab my garage here in Florida is air-conditioned but it's so small that I end up doing everything outside in the sun anyway. Welding in the sun is even more fun than going to the beach. Somehow it doesn't feel that way when I'm doing it.
Just by looking at the diff it was a no go. Thank god they are a ton of fords out there. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure my man! There’s definitely lots to choose from. 👍
Another solution (if you want to keep your original axle) is spray welding, you can add material on the thinner section then machine it. For the people that doesn't know what is it, it's like giving a shower of molten metal sparks to your piece while he's turning on a lathe. You end up with a raw larger OD that can be machined.
However, I have no idea how much is the average cost... I guess it's not too expensive being a pretty simple process.
I'm watching your videos from Italy, I think you are a very good fabricator man, don't stop making videos! You are also very, very good to explain even difficult concepts. Don't underestimate this dude. If you can, keep it up. Cheers 🤙
Thank you my friend! I’ve never heard of that process. I think a greater challenge than cost is finding someone that can do it. It was hard enough finding someone to simply cut and re-spline my axles. 🤷♂️
I appreciate your kind words. And I’m happy to hear that my videos are making it all the way to Italy! Thank you again! And there’s more videos on the way soon. Cheers!
@@GarageFab Thank YOU! I'm happy that my weird english is understandable 🤣. Btw, there are several channels here on youtube that shows the process if you are interested, one of them is Abom79. I'm really far from the US but after a quick look online seems to have multiple places that provides the service. Maybe some of them are working online (shipping). Thank you for your answer, you looks a very dedicated and passionate person! I hope to see more videos coming up! Have a great day man!
@@GarageFab Check out Abom79's videos on this process. I agree, though - it's an extremely specialized process that you can't find done for cheap. Super interesting though!
I'm thinking this process just might be how they are able to do re-grinds on old camshafts that are no longer in production? I sent in my old CB 350 Honda camshaft and had it reground to different timing and profile to "hop" it up a little bit. That was done here in California by Megacycle Cams.
@@robertalexander2506 cam shafts are just welded up and turned down normally
GOTTA LOVE THAT SHIRT BROTHA!
Literally my favorite shirt.
The end very funny, Great video thanks for sharing
The one still makes me snicker. Thank you, John. 🙏
😂🤣That intro had me in tears 😅
Excellent! It was much longer than that originally and included flying tires and such but it just felt like it dragged on too long.
@@GarageFab need the uncut version 😂😂😂
Garage Blab, nice easter egg
Haha! Glad you found it.
Arron, I used a 97 Ford Exploder rear end. I f remember correct i cut the drivers side axle tube off and cut out the rest of the tube out of the housing, cleared out the plug weld. the end i cut out was machined but i only ground the tube to refit fit back into the diff case, then I went and bought a right side axle which is 3.5" shorter then the left on the 97. It comes out to the stock mighty max axle width. Yes I should have had the tube machined would of made it easier but you know how cheap i am. I have no bearing shavings as far i am aware of.
I freakin love your videos!!! I want to see your Truck!!
I do recall you using two right axle shafts. I would’ve done the same but the wheels I want to use require an axle that’s even narrower than the Mighty Max.
I’ve got bad news about my truck. But rather than tell you here I’ll advise you to go check out a really cringey video I did called The Rotisserie.
ua-cam.com/video/5YpPFCNMjI4/v-deo.html
Dont know the length of the rear montero sport axle but i would asume is as narrow as the 1st gen montero and as a bonus some models have disc brakes. So in essence more options also since the 97-99 is leaf spring amd the 2000 up is coil spring and both come in drum and discs. Just throwing an added option in case some one is interested in keeping 6 lug and going disc brakes.
Nice! Thank you!!
Well done Erin!
Thx Kile!!!
I think you could cut and weld it, IF you perform a friction weld. They are pretty much as strong as a solid piece of steel.
Was that your wife throwing stuff at you because you cut her truck up...lol. You do have great videos.
Haha! I called a buddy over just for that. I think he enjoyed it way too much. Thank you, my man.
@@GarageFab Do you give your email out.
Sure thing! GarageFab@Gmail.com
Feel free to message me on Instagram @GarageFab
No i will not agree to that. I love narrowed track widths . I love the look
And here I am thinking I was the only hating narrowed track widths
Definitely not!
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
My girlfriend wrote that across my bathroom mirror to remind me, every morning.
I disagree! “If you can, you DEFINITELY should. Just realize that you probably shouldn’t have and let that determine how you use that thing you shouldn’t have done.”
That would cover the whole mirror though.
Lol!
You said the problem with narrowing the Mitsubishi axle is that the tube won't fit in your jig, so it's impossible to narrow.
The axle is steel, so it can be welded. Make it so it bolts to the outer flanges, then has two cross braces (180° apart) welded to the inner axle tube. After you cut & trim the outer section, bolt it back into the jig with a spacer making up for the amount shortened.
If you cut on an axle tube diameter change it may be possible to slide the outer section of the tube inside of the inner section (telescopic). Then it could be easier, than the Ford axle, because you wouldn't need trim out a section!
I have no idea what you'll use for axle shafts!
I like where your head is at. I’d consider giving that a shot if I hadn’t already tossed it in an apartment complex dumpster. 😇
So we're still a go to shorten the mighty max axle then 😂
Haha! Do it! Take photos. Document all misery and report back here. 😀
may you make a video how to widen axles? I live in Indonesia and we do not have access to parts and tools like in the US. As we customize a lot here i want to widen my axles by nearly 3 inches... any idea?
I don’t know if I’ll have the opportunity to make that video. My next project will have CV axles rather than the solid axle like my Wife’s truck.
Widening would be a very similar process. If at all possible, I would try and get two axles. You could cut the ends off one axle tube, and then cut the ends off the other axle inward 1.5 inches. Then weld on the longer ends to gain your 3 inches.
The only safe option is to purchase custom axles that are made 1.5 inches longer to fit your newly made axle housing.
I hope this helps! I’m excited to hear Garage Fab has reached Indonesia!! Good luck my friend!
I like garageblab!
Good! Cuz the next one is blabbing from beginning to end. 😩
Love the work!
Thank you!
I hope you can help me out. I just found your channel and I have a 1992 MM Manual 4g64 motor .
I have swapped out the gas engine for a 2.5L 4d56 Diesel Or a brand new Hyundai d4bf turbo diesel . it was a direct bolt up to me tranny. but I would like to get a Taller gear Ratio. Like a Ford 2.73 Rear end to lower my highway rpms as it is over reving the diesel at antthing faster than 55 mph. will a Mustang rear end differential pinion flange bolt up to the MM Driveshaft?
@@2davydo It does NOT. In order to get this combination to work you’ll need to have a driveshaft made or modified. I suspect you might need to do this anyway unless the tail of your transmission is in the exact spot it was before the swap.
Your custom shaft will simply have the slip yoke and front U joint that matches the transmission and the rear U joint/flange that matches the differential.
Happy to have you my friend! Best of luck.
Hola amigo, me gusta tu contenido!!
¡Gracias! ¡Me gusta tu cara!
Q. If you had the Ford axle, then what was the purpose of attempting to shorten the mighty max axle ?
A lot of my viewers are Mighty Max owners. Not all of them would be doing a five lug conversion, or replacing their axles with a Mustang axle, so I still wanted to show them how it would be done. Obviously that didn’t work out so well. 🤷♂️
Mitsubishi van rear axle will work too and is 5 lug think you just need to change the leaf purches and such
Excellent! That's awesome. I've never heard of (or more importantly seen) a Mitsubishi Van. And now I want one!
I don't think they're available in the states.
Would you happen to know the axle width?
Garage Fab I don’t I just saw it posted on the Mitsubishi mighty Max fb page there is one by me at a yard
I have done the van rear swap. It’s been in my mighty max since the 90s. 5 lug/4.22 gear ratio. Still in it. Daily driven.
@Antonio Valez Nice! How does it fit?
20x9.5 mmr hr3 245/35/20 square. rubs in front but 225/35/20 should help.
Will the Toyota 5 lug hubs fit the mighty max?
Yes they will! Hub and rotor is a direct swap, bearings and all. The Mighty Max brake caliper will need to be spaced out a small amount though.
Check out this video. It goes into a bit more detail.
ua-cam.com/video/UjAYjhVgwWc/v-deo.html
It is still available as I own an 82 toyota
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Why is the video not in HD and only 360p?
Is it really? I thought something looked off but I've only seen it on my phone so far. Now to decide if I should re-upload and loose some helpful comments or just let this one slide.
Great info and as always lmao 😂
Thank you! Definitely not my best work.
weld the shaft! lol
I'd rather not!
I promise Hahaha
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You could just use a toyota axle and narrow that
Do Toyota axles have straight axle housings?
My main reason for choosing Mustang is the additional power from the turbo engine. Not to mention ease of narrowing.
I’d agree the Toyota axle is a great choice for a simple 5 lug conversion.
@@GarageFab yes they do
I’ve been telling the wife 3.5 inches is way too much for years.
Some people don’t realize it doesn’t take much to get the job done.
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But aren't you the ONLY mitymax owner?
Not by far! Though they do seem to be fairly rare. I see more Ferraris than Mighty Maxs here in Vegas. 😆
@@GarageFab the only thing more fun than metal fabrication is metal fabrication where it regularly reaches 111° right?
If I had an air conditioned shop. 😩 That would be a dream life.
@@GarageFab my garage here in Florida is air-conditioned but it's so small that I end up doing everything outside in the sun anyway. Welding in the sun is even more fun than going to the beach. Somehow it doesn't feel that way when I'm doing it.
Hahaha!
Haha sunk in wheels suck.
Hopefully I didn't offend anyone with that one. Just figured some people might not know better.
@@GarageFab and knowing is half the battle. "G.I. joe" lol.
Garage Fab I’m offended but ill get over it ...... yep I’m over it now..
Can’t wait to see some super wide wheels on that beast. 👏