86 year old detective tells what happened to Jimmy Hoffa!
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- 26 year veteran #NYPD police detective Frank Pergola tells of what happened to Jimmy Hoffa per his contacts over a career in #organizedcrime #mafia #hoffa #mafia #americanmafia #netflix #theirishman
I went to elementary school with Hoffa's grandson. I actually met Jimmy Hoffa at his grandson's birthday party. The day that Hoffa disappeared the family took their grandson out of school on the same day via limo and I never saw him again.
Let's take a moment of silence for the all the people who have disappeared, and nobody ever even heard their names.
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Amen 🙏🏼
They sleep with the fishes❤
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What all of the people that were forced to bend themselves to the will of gangsters or get hurt.
It's obvious Hoffa's killer is not still alive.... He doesn't have a youtube channel.
Maybe I like to keep a low profile. Ooh. Forget I said anything.
Man, you WIN the internet with that one!🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂👍
Frank Nitti Usher of Detroit killed Jimmy Hoffa. He got burned at Chester Campbell funeral parlor. Frank Nitti Usher was Tony Jack's driver.
The blacks killed hoffa. Why Italians don't know who did it. The guy just died recently during covid. You guys look it up and figure it out
The part that just doesn’t make sense is using a shotgun. Too noisy in a residential neighborhood and makes too much of a splatter mess. For that reason I say the story is off
You beat me to it. I agree 100 percent too sloppy.
and too much blood evidence. but back then all they could do was get the blood type, no DNA
Yes, exactly. Shotgun makes too much mess and someone else could have gotten dinged by accident.
Way too messy
Ah yes the armchair know it all, you forget how most people don't give a fuck about what's going on in the world or neighborhood unless it has to do with them or they actually see it and even then don't give a fuck
He’s gone and there is nothing we can do about it, and that’s that……
Nice Goodfellas reference
‘Real greaseball shit…’
Exactly
Good one 👍🏾
Waddaya mean he's gone
My mother who was elderly at the time, had to have one of those dreaded “ladie’s exams”.
She came home and said “Guess what the doctor found?” My brother piped up, “Jimmy Hoffa?”
We howled like anything, my mother wasn’t impressed and my fiancée from the UK didn’t get the joke as she had no idea who Jimmy Hoffa was.
Great little story. Real. 👍😂
I thought that Jimmy Hoffa was found inside Tony Soprano by a doctor?... I was really constipated a while ago and I wondered if Jimmy was stuck in my rectum. But now i'm not so sure. I can see the value of a second opinion. It's clear Jimmy gets lodged inside some peculiar orifices. Maybe we should start a teamsters union for those whose health has been affected by Jimmy's intrusions.... And Jimmy can run the union if he ever pops out.
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That’s absolutely hilarious. I literally laughed out loud. Not playing. ✌️😎
Ahhhh great story!
I always had the "feeling" that Jimmy went through a 'funeral home' business and probably got cremated.
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Shark bait
@@allenwhite4886 Too far away and, no sharks in Lake St. Clair.
No one will EVER know the truth abour Hoffa. Period.
I know the truth - he was killed and dispatched in a large body of water - not too hard to figure out
Soon as I heard "detective" all I could think was "cop, trained liar."
@@petegregory517 With that, it's not hard to guess how you operate.
@@petegregory517 dumb comment...I see detective?? I see a smarter than average copper
@@mottthehoople693 Yeah, people love the taste of polish.
I lived a mile from Bagnasco's Funeral Home. The people who didn't even know each other told me the same story. When I told the nephew of a couple of captains he just laughed and said "Yeah, that's Sam "Bags".
I think the cremated body story is closest to the truth.
Agreed. The actual rumor is that he as strangled then taken to a foundry and was i incinerated in a Smelting Pot and his ashes were mixed in with molten steel. The joke afterward was he was now part of an engine block!
@@balancedactguy Part of an Engine block? I heard apartment block.
@@baobo67 Actually Engine Apartment Block of Ice.
Blew they guy's head off in a house? Why make such a mess?
Who knows ? And after some 45 years does it make any difference ? The detective here , his last ditch effort to be a legend of secrets giving him self insured fame .
So he won’t have a head in the afterlife
😂😂😂@@Bobbaloomis
It was an abandoned house.
@@Tyronshoelaces laugh all you want, that’s how these old guys think
My aunt and uncle were federal marshals and the rumor they heard was Hoffa was strangled with a garotte and then his body was put into an industrial incinerator.
Tony Giacalone knew. Uncle Lou confirms there is no way Hoffa wasn’t burned up within an hour of his murder. He played golf with Tony, apparently.
I've followed this case for many years and I have trouble believing that a shotgun was used and not a handgun. However, I do believe that he was in fact cremated or incinerated because that way there would never be any possibility of his body ever being found. It just makes the most sense to me. I have wondered if maybe the FBI knows the real truth but has chosen not to ever reveal it. JMO.
Never knew he was so important, they find drug dealers in their homes in my town not living in their beds & the nextdoor neighbors arent scared at all & dont even consider it important
"HIS VERSION" of what happened to Hoffa. There's a zillion of them. (eye roll)
Geraldo says he's buried in Al Capones vault.
And Geraldo still couldn’t find him . Good old Jerry Rivers ! Can’t find shit .
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Jimmy Hoffa was drinking a bottle of coke too.😊
Jerkaldo is the biggest idiot ever to open his trap.
@MrScotttr1958 - He's a fully shaped wing nut... nobody should believe anything that he says about Jimmy Hoffa.
They cremated his body right after they killed him is the story around Detroit
Which makes sense. They shot Hoffa and transported the body to a Detroit cemetary and cremated it. Done in hours, not days.
Heard this story from my late uncle, a Federal LEO (not FBI). Yep, what most people thought then.
@@captainamerica6525 Or the other possible scenario is that they poured some cement and built him into the base of the Renaissance center building which they were building at the time and is now the General Motors building. Most of the cement and construction companies were all Italian owned.
Lol...And you believe it? Lol..WTF?
@@BBAKER22 Most logical stories out there, I suppose you think they drove him all the way to New Jersey to kill him and bury him in the end zone in Giants stadium.
I remember seeing a horse farm being dug up in Michigan.
Hoffa walks through the door and they hit blew his head off with a shotgun? c'mon...
Too much brain, and body matter all over the walls, etc.i.e. evidence.
Exactly. Why would you use a shotgun? That would be a big mess to clean up. We're talking hours of work if not days. Walls of older homes were not put together with sheet rock, so you have big holes to patch, sand, patch again, sand and paint... that's a few more days. The cremation part sounds nice, but why would you involve more people to cremate the body? It's complicated, and most mobsters I know are lazy cheap bastards. That's a lot of toting a body around, and a few trash cans full of bloody rags, clothing, and you have two witnesses including whoever is on your shooting crew and clean up crew, and someone at the mortuary who would automatically know it was Jimmy Hoffa by the next day when it was discovered he was missing.
@@elmerkilred159 I agree with you 100%! That's not how it happened. This guy is full of lies, I think it is intentional to throw people off! But for me, and I kind of guess for you too, it is clear as daylight what actually happened!
Good story, but I might think check the Republic landfill at Carleton Michigan
Indeed, the shotgun part ain't very likely.
The mafia guys who talked, the car crushing makes the most sense, according to Sam Gravano
With how many enemies he had, it could have been multiple people.
"Please form an orderly queue ..." :)
He says he "didn't like" the film, The Irishman, then goes on to relate what he says is the truth, which almost exactly parallels the movie, which was based on the book. Fat Tony allowed to bump him off...blah blah, restaurant...blah blah meeting at private house...bang, bang...blah blah crematorium. Only now some guy named "Red Hot" actually pulled the trigger. Pergola just seeking publicity/glory.
Sir, what you said is so much more realistic than other theories I’ve heard over the years. I have always said, from the beginning, that no one will ever find Hoffa. When I saw people dig sites I always thought, “What a bunch of idiots.” Thanks. Cremated him! Why of course they did!!!
Literally the plot of The Irishman 😂
Yea mate , he must have watched it & got inspired. .. 😂
@@queenslander954the story has been recounted before the book was even written. Only part that’s different is Sally Buggs apparently shot Jimmy Hoffa and then jumped his body somewhere, Frank Sheeran was just bait
@@queenslander954 he actually said he watched it
No wonder he says he didn’t like it!
a million cops and wiseguys have thought that they knew the real story but the real story died with Tony Jack.
Why a shotgun? Very messy in someone’s house. Lots to clean…
That sounds like a real story that rings a bell concerning Hoffa's disappearance! I could believe this more than him being buried someplace especially after the case of the 3 Civil rights workers down south. How they were found and charges were brought against the perpetrators.
getting cremated does make sense. there would be no way in hell that his body would be found. ashes don't have dna any more.
Like other people posting here, I have my doubts about an experienced criminal using a shotgun inside a private house. Making noise and leaving lots of blood-spatter evidence. Also, transporting the body to a crematorium leaves blood evidence. And somebody at the crematorium was bound to notice a body with no head.
New sub from Belfast, Ireland. 👍 Would love to hear more about the stuff you worked on over your career.
Good idea.
Nobody would probably be prosecuted for Hoffa ever
Yup. U R right sort of. His body is well covered up.
Hoffa never left Detroit,there’s no body.🔥
Damn Straight ! He's in the footings in the Ren Cen.. That's the "tea" in Construction Trades. Cross check Superintendent Reports compared with Missing Reports. After all, whose going to dig up the RenCen..???
@@bobettemorgan453 hoffa turned to ashes soon after they carried his body out of the house on beaverland st.
@@bobettemorgan453I had heard the exact same thing. A guy that I used to work with, that was working all kinds of crazy hours,pouring the caisson footings at the Ren Cen-- he said that one day they were all told that they were only to work 8 hours and go home. He said when he got home, him and his wife were eating dinner, and the Hoffa story was all over TV.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p He and his wife.
This account of Hoffa's murder mirrors the story told by Frank Sheran in, I Heard You Paint Houses. There are some slight differences, but the meat and postatoes of what the detective said in this video is extremely close to what the Irishman said in his deathbed confession.
Which, for many people in the mafia, were all lies. I don't claim to know but I'm skeptical of the Irish man's portrayal of events.
@@cameronjones8641 Skepticism is a good thing. Two Stories that have come about independantly that closely resemble each other means to me it is likely the events took place as stated. Who the triggerman was is all that's left to be proved. Frank Sheeran confessed to it, and Hoffa's family believe he was there when their father was taken. That should count for something.
@@InterestedAmerican Sheeran had a history of making things up. Maybe he heard the story and inserted himself into it.
@@crusader7991 I didn't know you knew him.
If he actually knew, Hoffa would have been recovered. If he knew and didn't say anything he should be in jail.
You mean Jimmy Hoffa is not living with Elvis and Bruce Lee in Roswell?
simple and straightforward
My great grandfather was a big shot in a union from the 40s thru the late 60s. Mob union. He swore he knew the truth and claims Hoffa's body was dumped into a bridge pier during the concrete pour. He refused to tell anyone in the family which bridge, but swore to it until his own dying day. Obviously, no one can prove or disprove it, but it's interesting to think about. 🤷♂️
Here to hoping it wasn't a Baltimore harbor bridge support..😂😂😮
@@patriot6350 I thought the same thing 🤣
unless he saw it happen he didn't know. someone may have told him that i'm not saying he lied.
very common story. Ive heard he was poured into a slab in ________(add concrete plant) and Hoffa is holding up _________(insert bridge or structure that was completed shortly after his death) .
You can fill in the blanks with any two depending on where you are and hearing the story from.
"Hoffa was poured into a slab in Youngstown OH and is now part of the GE building in Detroit)
Hoffa was poured into a slab in New Jersey and is now part of Foxboro Stadium
Hoffa was poured into a slab in Detroit and now Jimmy is holding up the Wisconsin-Dubuque bridge"
Old tale
Too many people and witnesses involved in something like this. Cremation would only involve one person other than the hit team. There are several crematories in the Detroit area, so very likely that at least one had mob connections. Think of the money that could be made by making bodies disappear?
Doesn't matter who killed him or where the body went, ultimately the order of the hit came from the teamster leaders who didn't want him gaining control of the union again. The loss of Hoffa was the beginning of the downfall of the Teamsters Union. When Hoffa was the head of the union, there was no such thing as a non union trucking company. The leadership of the union after Hoffa only cared about themselves and allowed non union companies, even union companies forming non union companies. No matter what people think of Hoffa, he took care of the working members.
boo who
"Took care of' has more than one meaning...... and someone certainly took care of Jimmy Hoffa.
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why would they take the ashes to lake sinclair from just washing them down a drain
Lake St. Clair is just north of Detroit but yeah, that aspect doesn't make sense and the potential to be caught.
A professional hit man using a shot gun in a residential neighbor on a known public figure? He was more likely strangled to cut down any noise.
Frank made at least one misstatement of fact - Genovese hitman Red Hot's name was Enrico Gentile, not Galante.
When you ride with outlaws, you die like an outlaw.
I always believed there was NO body. A smart killer would cremated. End of story.
I don't know where he's buried but I think Tony Giacalone has something to do with it
Jimmy is in the Yellow Pages - under "Cement".
That makes sense. It’s not personal it’s just business.
Franzese said he knows where Hoffa went. He said he sleeps with the fishes. 😆
But the story he relates is almost exactly the same as the one in The Irishman. The actual triggerman may be different but the set up is the same.
Thank you
That sounds very reasonable. Better than some of the other theories.
From someplace I don't recall, I was convinced that due to foul play, Mr. Hoffa wound up...."sleeping with the fishes." 🧐
Wasn’t that basically The Irishman Story ?? Especially at the end
Very plausible except for the shotgun. Too messy. Probably shot with a handgun. Cremation seems very likely. Cremains dumped into the lake. Hence, Jimmy sleeps with the fishes.
I would love to see what Dan Moldea has to say about that.
Billy Jack used a garrote. He and Briguglio put Hoffa's body in the trunk of Jr.'s Merc. Later... they went to the incinerator, sandwiched him inbetween some cardboard and put him in. That's why the dogs sniffed and hit on the car later on. There wasnt even a drop of blood. The Feds took the car.
The Detroit Partnership is/was the only family that could ever keep quiet. Once they finished a job... it was NEVER mentioned again. Not even amongst themselves. We all know what happened to "Sally Bugs".
Chuckie sat behind the wheel of the Merc at the Schultz residence the entire time. He didn't actually "see" anything... so he couldn't actually "say" anything; and, he knew what would happen if he ever did. He "suspected" what had taken place, put two and two together, but had to lie to save his own skin. Little Lenny was with Tony that afternoon. His house was empty but Hoffa was duped into thinking the meet was there and he walked right into it.
Vito wasn't a "Made Man" at the time, but he got made later as a result. He took it to the grave, along with a few others.
That's my take on it.
Sounds like you watched Goodfellas one too many times.
@@cd3949 - Over at your mom's house...
@@joebobgrizzler9963 What a zinger. 🙄
Where’s the full interview ?
Mad shit ! I love facts ! I love truth! Nice work Gentlemen
Keep it coming 👣🇦🇺🌍⚖️✝️
the older I get the more I regret of all the people Ive lost over the years but maybe being a trail guide wasnt such a great Idea after all
I drove past Machus Red Fox twice on the day he disappeared, and often wondered if I hadn't been in the proximity of a car driving him away. As a 76 year resident of the Detroit area, I've heard several accounts from people closely familiar with that culture, who I know personally. There is one story that I've always found the most credible, and Mr. Pergola has just repeated it.
Thanks.
Hey Frank,
I grew up around that guys that were directly involved with this in North Bergen - Union City NJ. A very close family member worked at Local 560 and we were close to a top guy who was a West Sider (The Westies). One day All of the we had to leave our home in Guttenberg quickly and we ended moving around to different places in the Catskills in the 70's. Respectively- I overheard what happened to Mr. Hoffa a little differently. In a funny turn of events the West Sider who was living with us was hiding out because of another well known incident. He ended up saving me and my mothers life from a really (REALLY) bad time after all of this and we were able to flee... It's sad that all of that was over Egos and Greed... I find myself disgusted by all of the movies and stories that are written about these horrible people. Not much is mentioned about the kids who were affected by it all. People have no idea the level of depravity these sc*mbags are capable of. Mr. Hoffa will not be found and no one will really know the facts because of all of the "buffers" that were placed in this situation. Thanks.
oh ya have to believe a youtube commenter, I heard what happened to hoffa but proceeds to tell us his life story, ok bud
I agree with your sense of disgust. I’ve never liked how these guys are glorified in movies. Imagine if we made movies about the KKK that presented them sympathetically (well there was one… but it was a silent movie made in 1915).
Many thanks for reminding us that these 'organized criminals' are indeed scumbags. I watched all the Godfather movies and the Scorsese movies, but never again. Jimmy Hoffa should've left the union and walked away, but all these guys have an ego which gets in the way. Very glad that you and your mom were able to escape with your lives all that time ago. All the best !
560 guy here..PIE Trucking late 70's to late 80's Knew the players ....
A lot of relatives worked on my job ....PIE trucking
The biggest question today is, does anybody really give a sh*t what happened to Hoffa?
His family , just saying
Somebody’s house was full of blood and brains. I hope the mob had some really good clean up people that wouldn’t talk.😮
Money buys silence. Snitches get a whole lot more than stitches.
Dinner reservation for one.
Ever notice the endless line of those who know what happened to Hoffa? 😂
Best theory out there, plus this guy is credible
i will accept that!!! makes perfect sence!!! ty sir now we know!!!
Most of these details are described in the book, “I heard you paint houses”. Which is an autobiography of the Irishman that joined the mob after trying to kill some of them.
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Wouldn’t anyone report a shotgun blast in the middle of the afternoon in a residential neighborhood? In the seventies housewives would be home.
Not if she's running the vacuum cleaner, yelling at the kids, doing laundry, dishes, TV, radio or stereo blasting, napping or lawn mowers outside. Shotgun sound would only last about .3 tenths of a second. And if it's muffled inside the house, especially a brick building you're not going to hear much outside.
Sounds more likely than any of the other scenarios.
Det Frank Pergola Absolute Legend 💙💙🇺🇲
Your English is fine! The Google translation sucks!
He is a babbling old man trying to stay relevant. Story doesn’t make sense…a shotgun is too loud (residential area) and too messy.
Spaghetti and Salami took hoffa 😅😅😅 this guys FOS
Definitely possible. This guy probably knows for sure.
Makes perfect sense to me.
He was made to completely disappear not put in some hole to ever be found again. They wanted him to disappear properly. Everyone has a theory but the only ones that really know are definitely not around anymore
Yeah I know he never left Detroit area. I dunno about the cremation, but that could be. For that matter they could of crushed him on a car, or whatever.
But all the people claiming they killed him in Detroit and then put him in a trunk and drove back to new york or new jersey, c'mon... why,?
Because the New Jersey mob couldn't stand to think that the biggest mob hit in history took place in Detroit, so they've tried to twist any way they can to take the credit.
Nothing personal, it's just business.
There's a car painting store in Detroit. Had a new concrete slab put in the weekend Hoffa disappeared. But his heart is under the Washington Monument. I scare the mob. (Mineakey.)
The Irishman was a terrible film . Very likely Anthony Provenzano had Hoffa killed and to some extent who actually carried out his orders is a bit irrelevant as he was ultimately responsible. Shocking as it is , its difficult to feel much sympathy for Hoffa, as he seems to have used the mob throughout his career for his own ends. For instance he allowed Teamster’s union funds to be used by the mob to build casinos in Las Vegas etc
The movie was not like it was said in the book that movie is based on. I Heard You Paint Houses, to me is the definitive book on the topic and a must read if you are into the subject of Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance. The book account is so close to this detective's account. In the book Frank Sheran takes responsibility as the shooter and the guy this detective mentions as the shooter was the guy that got the house they killed Hoffa in.
@@InterestedAmerican I read the book LONG before the movie was even made, much less when I saw it, and thought the book was better. In fact, it didn`t even need to be made into a movie, as far as I`m concerned, because Hollywood likes to embellish true stories and 9 times out of 10, I think the real-life person(s) is more interesting, anyway!
@@TJS82 I completely agree. The movie was a let down compared to the book.
@@InterestedAmerican As I said, knowing Hollywood`s reputation, my expectations were realistic, at best, so, I wasn`t necessarily surprised.
I was embarrassed for Robert De Niro when he was kicking that man in the street. It looked so ridiculous.
I always thought he was killed in Michigan.
Anything is possible after 49 years.
New sub here from Quebec !
Hello Canada.
@@bcatblues725 Hey !!
To this day I reference Jimmy Hoffa in a variety of scenarios. Good to know how it finally happened. May God have mercy on his soul and the souls of all those who have disappeared. God bless~
This was a Detroit operation with all Detroit players and had nothing to do with New Jersey or New York.
Why should we believe him? The real story is Hoffa in managing a Cinnabon in Omaha.
They turned him into a pepperoni pizza.
Спасибо за интересный выпуск
Ask Jimmy two times ; two times.
What happened to his drivers?
So fitting that hoffa’s middle name was riddle.
Yeah, a 26 year veteran Detective from the NYPD going back to Serpico in the 60's, any NYPD detective's testimony is highly suspect.
All these years and nobody bothers to mention his Safe House in Lansing Michigan or the lime pits that are relatively close to said house
A shotgun!! Why would anyone has a shotgun to kill someone in a house, at close range?? The mess would have been awful and impossible to fully clean! Gotta call bs on that one. 🤔
Oh brother, not another one.
Clickbait at its finest
My dad was working for his uncle in Detroit at a “recreation center” that was really a gambling hall for numbers and sports. Hoffa used to come in there all the time. Also, Tony Giacolone came in there all the time as well. “Tony Jack” as they used to call him came to my grandparents home for dinner back in the day. He was one of the people to meet Hoffa at the restaurant and the last to be seen with him! Tony did indeed personally give the details to my uncle about the demise of Hoffa.
what were the details on hoffas disappearance?
Well if he is buried at Giants Stadium, that would offer some explanation for why the giants suck.
WOODLAND STREET the old union hall, the newer stadium is going in, the site will be completely gone now.
My grandfather was a Deputy US Marshal, he was involved in witness protection for informants. He actually did protection for a guy who testified against Hoffa, kind of ironic. Most of what he did, he never talked about because he couldn't.
You don’t put hands on a made guy… RIP Jimmy