Jared, I'm in my mid-forties and I wanted to be a drummer all my life but didn't really have the chance. Now a few months ago I bought a kit and I practice every night with your video's. What a fantastic help that is, and what a great teacher you are. Thank you very much for all your effort, I (and as I see many many more people) really appreciate it. Best regards from Amsterdam, Holland.
As I said in the video, I am constantly striving to be a better player and am always working on my feel. No one will ever play it like Jeff Porcaro, but I felt comfortable enough to teach it. Based on the 96,000+ views and 639 likes I think a lot of people are using the lessons and liking it. So on this one, I'll stick with the majority. Thanks for your comment! - Jared Falk
Mr. Jared sir. The number of views...or likes..isn't the standard . The standard should be ..is it correct. THAT is the problem with UA-cam stardom. It's not gospel..it's not remotely correct many times and I am sorry but that matters to me and it matters to the people I have taught. The only thing that having 96,000 + views does is send a whole ton of players into the world who play this groove completely incorrectly. I love what your channel does 90% of the time. I have NO issues with general lessons..or anything remotely like that. If that had been just a video about some of the subtle aspects of a shuffle...I wouldn't have felt the need to comment. But it's billed specifically..(again to attract some of that 96,000 viewers) as THE Rosanna Shuffle..which it is not. That is my single biggest issue here.
Pra mim, me ajudou muito! Adoro o Canal Drumeo. Importante mencionar que Eu só animei tentar estudar e tocar a música Rosanna, por causa do seu vídeo Jared. Obrigado! Parabéns pelo ótimo trabalho Jared!
@@brandoncollinsdrumms Glad to hear it. He is an absolute treasure. The most important thing I learned from him wasn't even drums. He taught me how to learn. But his concepts on time and groove are priceless. Have fun and take a lot of notes.
I'm an intermediate drummer, and I so love Drumeo. I think the tips are helpful, insightful, and for me, very unpretentious. I'm sometimes intimated by drummers who are so much better than me, and are sometimes cutting in their remarks on videos and websites. I know I'm not great, (I'm very good with a band, though), but I'm here to learn and get better. To me, it's all about improvement and the music, and pushing yourself. I really appreciate the caring, accepting, and encouraging tone of Jared and all the guys who give us tips, exercises, and training. Thanks guys! (that all said, I'm STILL Struggling with Fool in the Rain, Rosanna, and Babylon Sisters!) ;) Oh well, we can't all be Purdie/Porcaro/Bonham!
Not a drummer here but an RN with a neurology background, so the sophistication of & difficulty mastering this groove has always fascinated me. When really really slowed down, the addition of the bo diddly bass rhythm seems such a misfit to me - not until it speeding up does its recruitment really synergize with other 2. What a visionary Pocoro must have been intuiting possibility of whole new groove from synthesis of all 3.
Jared, I am a professional session/live drummer for over 30 years and I bought into your online drumming a while ago and think it is such an asset from beginner to advanced. I have also been a huge fan of Jeff for a very long time and you absolutely have this groove down my friend. Thankyou for sharing yet another stellar video. One day our paths might cross but until then keep up the great work. Steve
Everybody who is complaining about it: show us a video of yourself and prove that you can make it better. I think it`s great anyway that a lot of people here trying to help with drum - guitar - pianolessons....whatever. Nobody is perfect, at least he tried. And for me it sounds very good, im a girl -guitar player and i would be glad to have a drummer like him.
Wow,I have to say that your respect and admiration for Jeff Porcaro is truly amazing! To be honest, most younger guys don't have a clue who he was or how amazing he was as a drummer! Anyhow, good lessons. I appreciate what you teach and how you do it....I'll keep learning!!
Yes, this was inspired by John Bonham, but it's not the same. Jeff Porcaro played a variation of The Bonham shuffle. I have transcribed them both, and the ghost note, kick, and accent patterns are different. So I think this one should be called the Rosanna Shuffle or Porcaro Shuffle. Don't get too caught up in the semantics of it. Just play drums.
Jeff could make any song sound good (and 1000'x better). His feel and timing are second to none. I play bass and guitar but Jeff is my favorite musician.
@royalsfanatic I only started to play drums when I was 15... I played a little piano before that. It's never too early to start. Don't expect them to take it too seriously and don't push them to practice or they might end up hating it...If they are meant to be a drummer it will happen. I have an 11 month old son and can't wait to get him a kit (if he's interested). I'll start him as young as possible. - Jared Falk
I have this bookmarked on my phone. Keep telling myself I’m gonna figure it out. I need to quit making excuses and learn it. Great breakdown of it, this is a fantastic straight to the point lesson. Thanks man!
Thanks so much this helped a lot and once you learn the main groove and play the song a lot the other versions of it just happen and the shuffle becomes muscle memory
I think having the metronome play the triplets makes it harder to swing this and make it feel right. I would have it play 4/4 and allow myself to swing the triplets to get this to groove. Nice lesson as always Jared.
@TheRudyStrong More then just the head play a factor in the sound. You also have to consider the snare wires, the shell type, reso head, number of lugs etc. - Jared Falk
I began to practice this groove with “These Chains” on Toto’s “The Seventh One”. It’s kind of a slow version and shows the dexterity of Jeff’s playing.
In the explanation you play 1 ghost note in the middle, as it really is.... in the rythm you play 2: ha ta ta ha ta ta.... that I actually prefer playing. Reason why you are a bit stiff... Try with 1 ghost note and speed it up. I love Drumeo. This channel is very helpful.
My drum teacher loves Jeff also man and no wonder. His beats are out of this world. I'm far away from this myself but man I'd love to be half this good.
Hi Jared, I just talked with my drumteacher the last time about this groove. He just showed how to play but without instrunctions. He just played the groove one time. So I am glad to find it here inculding the transcription. Now it will be able for me to learn this one, thanks for that. I realy like your videos of freedrumlessons... quite good idea and for free, thanls alot for this... and keep on with that stuff. With kind regards from germany, Markus
Jeff was inspired by John Bonham (Fool In the Rain),and more so by Bernard Purdie's "Half Time Shuffle" as heard on Steely Dan's "Babylon Sisters" and "Home At Last". He went into this groove in great detail on his Star Licks tape that he put out in the late 80's or early 90's. That tape is available in segments on You Tube. It inspired me to start playing again after a 25 year hiatus. Great job Jared. This is a tough groove to play "right".
Excellent lesson!! excellent groove, thank you. I may have already commented this but: The hard non ghost snare hits are on the 2 and the 4 beats. You are playing the snare ghost notes that immediately follow the 2 & 4 hard snare- You can ditch them- watch Porcarro break down the beat here on UA-cam & listen closely- if I remember I don't think he plays them. In my opinion the groove sounds better with those two ghosted snare notes omitted and a nice bonus is the groove is much easier to play (still a challenge regardless!)
I Think people interested in this shuffle know the basics and grasp the idea.It's the consistency when you play the notes that kills it. Its talent like Jeffs and Hardwork for most people who gets it right (better have both) . No wonder there are lots of people helping us learn the shuffle but they themselves admit they suck or seemed to.
I think the key on getting the right feel for this beat is the ghosting of the snare, and especially lagging it slightly. And by that I mean playing the notes a little bit later than you´re supposed to. Dynamics is also important, playing the notes in between the 1 and the 3 very quietly, perhaps put an emphasis on the kick notes (except the last one). Drive and energy is very important, but I´m not sure how to explain that.
Baby Jared Falk! I just came here, searching for what was folk-named "the Rosanna Shuffle," because of a new song by Fredrik Thordendal, used for demonstrating "Area 33 - Origin" in Superior Drummer 3. That song sounded completely awesome, and I need many more like that in my playlists. Great lessons AS ALWAYS, Jared! ❤️
Thank you so much for your awesome lessons. They have made a big impact. I've been trying to learn the Purdie shuffle for about 6 months on and off now and this is one of the best instructional videos I've seen. I have a couple more that I will add in the next post but I can't fit it all in because of the character limit. Other great instructional video links will follow. One from Max Sanselone who I also find to be a great teacher. The other two are from Purdie and Jeff Porcaro themselves
Jared siento como si tú fueras mi único profesor, muchas gracias, desde ahora la forma en la que toque batería va a ser gracias a Mike Wengren y a ti .
The Rosanna shuffle is quicker than you think. I think the secret is in the hands especially the right hand and if you compare the fool in the rain shuffle this is much quicker.Jeff plays it that fluent that it's almost jazzy.If you don't practice this technique with the hands at the correct tempo then you will be dragging the whole song.
I always believe one day Jared will show us he knows we care the message he is wearing. By the way, thanks for teaching me what drummers do and what they think. I'm not a drummer so these video really teach me a lot.
I appreciate that Jared took some time in the video about post-downbeat ghost note...I have personally viewed the downbeat-ghost note combination more as a double stroke (with a lighter 2nd stroke)...
Oh and I've also noticed that depending on where you lay the ghost note on the snare it can change the feel. You can put it way back, a bit early or right in the middle.
Kudos on a great lesson Jarred. You are spot on about your struggles with this groove. My ear tells me your excellent technique is just getting in your way. Lay it back a bit and let it get a little sloppy here and there. Much appreciation to you and all the Drumeo crew!
I appreciate Jared's lesson (and his humble attitude)...I realize that the groove has "shuffle" roots, but I feel that Porcaro plays the hi-hat (1st & 3rd strokes of the triplet) more evenly - so I prefer to call this groove simply a triplet groove...
I also recommend doing this when you keep time with hi hat for long drum fills, right, keep as minimal time intervals as possible, this will end you up the tightest in the end. It's very hard though
Yes he does :) In his video explaining it on UA-cam it will tell you he ghosts the accent after the third triplet, meaning the note after the accented snare hit. Jeff was able to play it so perfectly, and ghost it so well you would hardly notice unless listen extremely close. If you watch his video you can hear it :)
I Seriously think that you can learn the drums from somebody off youtube than you can if you went and took it from someone in person, awesome by the way
I don't usually chime in on these things , but I wanted to add that we should also include Bernard Purdie in the discussion. "Home At Last" from Steely Dan's "Aja" record, and "Babylon Sisters" from SD's "Gaucho" record are 2 other versions of the groove, from 1977 and 1980 respectively. I'm a huge Bonham and JP fan, but I have to say I heard Bernard do this first. Also, great job explaining the groove, Jared.
Played and translated all wrong at the beginning of your tutorial...The feel on the bottom is the Bo Diddley groove. You're playing it more like the Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle. Towards the end, your translation is the exact Porcaro Shuffle. The bass drum pattern is the Bo Diddley Groove. In fact, Jeff shares a tutorial video on Rosanna. It's so worth checking out!!! Even more so, his entire live band drum tutorial is worth its weight in gold, and then some!!!
You do credible job Jared on this very difficult groove. Jeff is a very hard act to follow. If anything, your sixteenth notes on the hat sound just a little bit stiff compared to Jeff's original. His just seemed to flow so effortlessly. It took me the better part of a month 20 years ago to really get this groove down perfectly and it has been a part of my warmup ever since. It is one of the most recognizable grooves in rock and roll and when I warm up everyone over 30 instantly recognizes it
I like seeing this broken down as I have been 'feeling' my way through this shuffle~ I was close, but no cupcake. My aim currently is to learn to play some of these important grooves correctly. I appreciate this lesson, and you know it's up to each of us to 'find' the way to groove this pattern (and all others) for ourselves. Is it possible to capture the rhythmic feel of a piece while playing it perhaps incorrectly? I think so- to a degree. BUT When you learn the right pattern everything eventually falls in place...Thanks Jared!
I envy your kit. It grows on its own. Every new video there are more cymbals. I wish my kit did that. Oh.. by the way. If you ever find that your kit is missing, its because I stole it. Kthanks. Great tutorial by the way. Tried learning it, but I am not coordinated enough to pull it off lol. Gotta practice more haha
yep this is definitely the way. so start at 40, work up to 65 till your next session. And really emphasize that hi hat technique and then let the snare come naturally, remember how the snare combined with the hi hat sounds rather then trying to process the note locations of it in your head. easier. probably gonna have to dream this before adding those kicks though
Hey man, you are really good at what you do. Your playing, your teaching, and you are humble. Bravo! And you turned me on to Toto. I had no idea they grooved like that. Just never listened to them. Thanks for the video and I am now a subscriber.
@2112jamac Ok... I learned it from Jeff Porcaro, so for me, it's the Porcaro shuffle :) For some reason everyone on UA-cam gets hung up on semantics all the time. We all need to understand that there are sometimes MANY different names for the same thing. Just saying'... - Jared Falk
I saw an 18 year old Georgia Tech student play this song perfect in 1996 and it was the most amazing live music I ever saw by a non professional. Todd was hus name
First off Jared thank you for posting your videos they have helped me get over my plateus on multiple occasions. Could you post what kind of cymbals you use...mostly the funny looking one to the right and down of your hi hats?? Thanks again for the vids
I think it's important to note that on the hi-hat rhythm played, it's best to accent the down beat more than the "let" note. If you do this, the groove will not sound as overplayed as it would otherwise. Just something to think about.
What a cool beat. I always liked that song and i can hear it going through my head just from you playing this beat so you have a good feel Jared. Thank you for this video.
@2112jamac Thats kind of true, but actually this groove was done by Jeff Porcaro. He fused the Bernard Purdie shuffle, the John Bonham "Fool in the Rain" shuffle and a shuffle bo-diddly figure on the bass drum. This drum groove was all Jeff Porcaro.
It doesn't matter what its called. It's an awesome technique no matter what. And if there are any Death Cab For Cutie fans, Grapevine Fires has this in it. :D
One of my favourite grooves of all time aswell. For me the hardest part about playing this track is actually the chorus part, the base drum pattern always messed up the shuffle and I haven't been able to get it right for like 4 years, since I started playing this song.
In my modest opinion the basic ghost notes are the same played from that drummer, but if you listen carefully the original version played by jeff you will problably notice that there are others ghostes notes..but you know...Jeff was one of the greatest and unique.
The main thing is to make it dance, Bernard Purdy shufflle, you gotta touch right hand tip of the stick, right hand shoulder of the stick, left hand ghost note, That Is The Shuffle Groove !!!
In the original recorded version on album there is only one ghost note. People have been getting this beat wrong for years. There is also another kick drum note in unison with the final snare hit on count 4. This song is up there with Led Zeppelin's "The Immigrant" song for being transcribed and taught incorrectly. This is just my opinion.
I had to go back and read the shirt. I think the shirt is cool. Very hard song to show and play Jared. Great job! It was also great to hear you have played this for some time and still try to get it better! It shows we are not alone when playing drums!
+Craig DeWolf Even better than its creator Jeffs demonstration? :) UA-cam search for it Craig, its described in detail by Jeff, and actually a lot less technical/cold & complicated then this cats explanation is. No disrespect to this drummer here, but I passionately agree with the comment posted a few below this, this cat just doesn't get the 'feel', its far too too 'dry', serious and mechanical, like the difference between digital sequenced sampled drums and 'analog' drums (I love saying that. To think that playing an actual instrument would be called analog one day was something I never saw coming!)
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Jared, I'm in my mid-forties and I wanted to be a drummer all my life but didn't really have the chance. Now a few months ago I bought a kit and I practice every night with your video's. What a fantastic help that is, and what a great teacher you are. Thank you very much for all your effort, I (and as I see many many more people) really appreciate it. Best regards from Amsterdam, Holland.
lol me too
That’s so great dude, hopefully after 8 years you still might be practicing!!
This is amazing, so inspiring, I'm 34 and just starting!
Well done man, never too late! The more you play, the better you get, the better you get, the more you want to play! It's all up from here :)
I hope you’re still playing and having a blast!
As I said in the video, I am constantly striving to be a better player and am always working on my feel. No one will ever play it like Jeff Porcaro, but I felt comfortable enough to teach it. Based on the 96,000+ views and 639 likes I think a lot of people are using the lessons and liking it. So on this one, I'll stick with the majority. Thanks for your comment! - Jared Falk
Mr. Jared sir. The number of views...or likes..isn't the standard . The standard should be ..is it correct. THAT is the problem with UA-cam stardom. It's not gospel..it's not remotely correct many times and I am sorry but that matters to me and it matters to the people I have taught. The only thing that having 96,000 + views does is send a whole ton of players into the world who play this groove completely incorrectly.
I love what your channel does 90% of the time. I have NO issues with general lessons..or anything remotely like that. If that had been just a video about some of the subtle aspects of a shuffle...I wouldn't have felt the need to comment. But it's billed specifically..(again to attract some of that 96,000 viewers) as THE Rosanna Shuffle..which it is not. That is my single biggest issue here.
pjones8404 nobody cares what ur issue is though who are u? if u don’t like it keep it moving... this was very similar if not spot on
Pra mim, me ajudou muito! Adoro o Canal Drumeo. Importante mencionar que Eu só animei tentar estudar e tocar a música Rosanna, por causa do seu vídeo Jared. Obrigado! Parabéns pelo ótimo trabalho Jared!
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Classy Response!
Circa 2013
My teacher Fred Dinkins was a student of Jeff's. He taught me this shuffle, and you did it some justice. Good job.
Herman Melville Did you go to MI?
The classic; I knew a guy who knew the guy, so I can say this is good.
Most classic comment of any drum song on UA-cam !
@@brandoncollinsdrumms Absolutely. Was there back in '03-'04.
@@hermanmelville3871 That's awesome! I have him as an instructor at MI currently, honestly one of the best I could ask for.
@@brandoncollinsdrumms Glad to hear it. He is an absolute treasure. The most important thing I learned from him wasn't even drums. He taught me how to learn. But his concepts on time and groove are priceless. Have fun and take a lot of notes.
I'm an intermediate drummer, and I so love Drumeo. I think the tips are helpful, insightful, and for me, very unpretentious. I'm sometimes intimated by drummers who are so much better than me, and are sometimes cutting in their remarks on videos and websites. I know I'm not great, (I'm very good with a band, though), but I'm here to learn and get better. To me, it's all about improvement and the music, and pushing yourself. I really appreciate the caring, accepting, and encouraging tone of Jared and all the guys who give us tips, exercises, and training. Thanks guys! (that all said, I'm STILL Struggling with Fool in the Rain, Rosanna, and Babylon Sisters!) ;) Oh well, we can't all be Purdie/Porcaro/Bonham!
Not a drummer here but an RN with a neurology background, so the sophistication of & difficulty mastering this groove has always fascinated me. When really really slowed down, the addition of the bo diddly bass rhythm seems such a misfit to me - not until it speeding up does its recruitment really synergize with other 2. What a visionary Pocoro must have been intuiting possibility of whole new groove from synthesis of all 3.
"bo diddley" is really the cuban CLAVE
The framus intersects with the ramistan approximately at the paternoster
Jared, I am a professional session/live drummer for over 30 years and I bought into your online drumming a while ago and think it is such an asset from beginner to advanced. I have also been a huge fan of Jeff for a very long time and you absolutely have this groove down my friend. Thankyou for sharing yet another stellar video. One day our paths might cross but until then keep up the great work. Steve
after 11 years still very helpful :)
Porcaro shuffle, which Jeff says (said) he took from Bernard Purdie and John Bonham. :-)
Yes but he mixed those and was modified from him.
Don’t forget them Bo Didley feet!
Fool in the rain
Everybody who is complaining about it: show us a video of yourself and prove that you can make it better. I think it`s great anyway that a lot of people here trying to help with drum - guitar - pianolessons....whatever. Nobody is perfect, at least he tried. And for me it sounds very good, im a girl -guitar player and i would be glad to have a drummer like him.
Wow,I have to say that your respect and admiration for Jeff Porcaro is truly amazing! To be honest, most younger guys don't have a clue who he was or how amazing he was as a drummer! Anyhow, good lessons. I appreciate what you teach and how you do it....I'll keep learning!!
Yes, this was inspired by John Bonham, but it's not the same. Jeff Porcaro played a variation of The Bonham shuffle. I have transcribed them both, and the ghost note, kick, and accent patterns are different. So I think this one should be called the Rosanna Shuffle or Porcaro Shuffle. Don't get too caught up in the semantics of it. Just play drums.
Loved Jeff's drumming on Boz Skaggs' "Silk Degrees" album and on Michael Jackson's "Beat It". My all time favorite drummer. RIP, Jeff Porcaro.
Jeff could make any song sound good (and 1000'x better).
His feel and timing are second to none.
I play bass and guitar but Jeff is my favorite musician.
Porcaro explains it as a hybrid of Purdie/Bonham/Diddley The Bo Diddley Kick rhythm is missing from this lesson.
Don't worry about those ghost notes... They ain't nothin but rebounds!!
chris haigh I GOT A LITTLE AIR UNDER MY HIGH HAT THAT TIME!
To make it soouuuuunnd... and feeeeeel... Goooood!
Bernard Purdie?
@@murderinc.hunting7686 yes sir
@@FlatBroke612 hahaha you know it
@royalsfanatic I only started to play drums when I was 15... I played a little piano before that. It's never too early to start. Don't expect them to take it too seriously and don't push them to practice or they might end up hating it...If they are meant to be a drummer it will happen. I have an 11 month old son and can't wait to get him a kit (if he's interested). I'll start him as young as possible.
- Jared Falk
I have this bookmarked on my phone. Keep telling myself I’m gonna figure it out. I need to quit making excuses and learn it. Great breakdown of it, this is a fantastic straight to the point lesson. Thanks man!
Thanks so much this helped a lot and once you learn the main groove and play the song a lot the other versions of it just happen and the shuffle becomes muscle memory
Love the way you break down the parts to build on the full groove. I found when you played along with music on the screen very helpful.
I think having the metronome play the triplets makes it harder to swing this and make it feel right. I would have it play 4/4 and allow myself to swing the triplets to get this to groove. Nice lesson as always Jared.
It's all about feel, if it doesn't swing it won't sing
Thanks Jared. Definitely worth of watching. R.I.P. Jeff Porcaro you are the GOAT
@TheRudyStrong More then just the head play a factor in the sound. You also have to consider the snare wires, the shell type, reso head, number of lugs etc.
- Jared Falk
I began to practice this groove with “These Chains” on Toto’s “The Seventh One”. It’s kind of a slow version and shows the dexterity of Jeff’s playing.
Body movement is key also. Moving with the groove helped me. Dance while you play!
In the explanation you play 1 ghost note in the middle, as it really is.... in the rythm you play 2: ha ta ta ha ta ta.... that I actually prefer playing. Reason why you are a bit stiff... Try with 1 ghost note and speed it up.
I love Drumeo. This channel is very helpful.
My drum teacher loves Jeff also man and no wonder. His beats are out of this world. I'm far away from this myself but man I'd love to be half this good.
@TheThecrazyone Thank you for your kind words!
- Jared Falk
I am amazed by the way you "broke down" the piece in such away that I managed to play it. Excellent.
Hi Jared,
I just talked with my drumteacher the last time about this groove. He just showed how to play but without instrunctions. He just played the groove one time. So I am glad to find it here inculding the transcription. Now it will be able for me to learn this one, thanks for that. I realy like your videos of freedrumlessons... quite good idea and for free, thanls alot for this... and keep on with that stuff.
With kind regards from germany,
Markus
Thank you very much for the lessons , now i can do it. Very happy to do That. Your lessons are perfect , with solfege , metronome, etc.....
Jeff was inspired by John Bonham (Fool In the Rain),and more so by Bernard Purdie's "Half Time Shuffle" as heard on Steely Dan's "Babylon Sisters" and "Home At Last". He went into this groove in great detail on his Star Licks tape that he put out in the late 80's or early 90's. That tape is available in segments on You Tube. It inspired me to start playing again after a 25 year hiatus. Great job Jared. This is a tough groove to play "right".
Jeff said the bass drum was a combo of fool in the rain and the bo diddly shuffle. Great job, you sound nice
Excellent lesson!! excellent groove, thank you. I may have already commented this but: The hard non ghost snare hits are on the 2 and the 4 beats. You are playing the snare ghost notes that immediately follow the 2 & 4 hard snare- You can ditch them- watch Porcarro break down the beat here on UA-cam & listen closely- if I remember I don't think he plays them. In my opinion the groove sounds better with those two ghosted snare notes omitted and a nice bonus is the groove is much easier to play (still a challenge regardless!)
Thank you for breaking it down. I couldn’t start learning this without your video.
Hands down the best drum teacher out there.
I Think people interested in this shuffle know the basics and grasp the idea.It's the consistency when you play the notes that kills it. Its talent like Jeffs and Hardwork for most people who gets it right (better have both) . No wonder there are lots of people helping us learn the shuffle but they themselves admit they suck or seemed to.
I think the key on getting the right feel for this beat is the ghosting of the snare, and especially lagging it slightly. And by that I mean playing the notes a little bit later than you´re supposed to.
Dynamics is also important, playing the notes in between the 1 and the 3 very quietly, perhaps put an emphasis on the kick notes (except the last one).
Drive and energy is very important, but I´m not sure how to explain that.
Baby Jared Falk! I just came here, searching for what was folk-named "the Rosanna Shuffle," because of a new song by Fredrik Thordendal, used for demonstrating "Area 33 - Origin" in Superior Drummer 3. That song sounded completely awesome, and I need many more like that in my playlists.
Great lessons AS ALWAYS, Jared! ❤️
Thank you so much for your awesome lessons. They have made a big impact. I've been trying to learn the Purdie shuffle for about 6 months on and off now and this is one of the best instructional videos I've seen. I have a couple more that I will add in the next post but I can't fit it all in because of the character limit. Other great instructional video links will follow. One from Max Sanselone who I also find to be a great teacher. The other two are from Purdie and Jeff Porcaro themselves
This i called teachin, not showig. Thank you for this!
Jared siento como si tú fueras mi único profesor, muchas gracias, desde ahora la forma en la que toque batería va a ser gracias a Mike Wengren y a ti .
This breakdown really helped a ton, more than Porcaro's, and I can now play Rosanna and Fool in the Rain. Thanks!
The Rosanna shuffle is quicker than you think. I think the secret is in the hands especially the right hand and if you compare the fool in the rain shuffle this is much quicker.Jeff plays it that fluent that it's almost jazzy.If you don't practice this technique with the hands at the correct tempo then you will be dragging the whole song.
I always believe one day Jared will show us he knows we care the message he is wearing. By the way, thanks for teaching me what drummers do and what they think. I'm not a drummer so these video really teach me a lot.
I appreciate that Jared took some time in the video about post-downbeat ghost note...I have personally viewed the downbeat-ghost note combination more as a double stroke (with a lighter 2nd stroke)...
Oh and I've also noticed that depending on where you lay the ghost note on the snare it can change the feel. You can put it way back, a bit early or right in the middle.
The key to getting this groove is the Bo Diddley beat on the bass drum, which I didn't see or hear in this lesson.
Kudos on a great lesson Jarred. You are spot on about your struggles with this groove. My ear tells me your excellent technique is just getting in your way. Lay it back a bit and let it get a little sloppy here and there. Much appreciation to you and all the Drumeo crew!
I appreciate Jared's lesson (and his humble attitude)...I realize that the groove has "shuffle" roots, but I feel that Porcaro plays the hi-hat (1st & 3rd strokes of the triplet) more evenly - so I prefer to call this groove simply a triplet groove...
Love your honesty an approach to teaching
I also recommend doing this when you keep time with hi hat for long drum fills, right, keep as minimal time intervals as possible, this will end you up the tightest in the end. It's very hard though
Yes he does :)
In his video explaining it on UA-cam it will tell you he ghosts the accent after the third triplet, meaning the note after the accented snare hit. Jeff was able to play it so perfectly, and ghost it so well you would hardly notice unless listen extremely close. If you watch his video you can hear it :)
I Seriously think that you can learn the drums from somebody off youtube than you can if you went and took it from someone in person, awesome by the way
I don't usually chime in on these things , but I wanted to add that we should also include Bernard Purdie in the discussion. "Home At Last" from Steely Dan's "Aja" record, and "Babylon Sisters" from SD's "Gaucho" record are 2 other versions of the groove, from 1977 and 1980 respectively. I'm a huge Bonham and JP fan, but I have to say I heard Bernard do this first.
Also, great job explaining the groove, Jared.
great and humble way to teach that wonderful drum beat, one day il get it !!!! on the drum
Played and translated all wrong at the beginning of your tutorial...The feel on the bottom is the Bo Diddley groove. You're playing it more like the Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle.
Towards the end, your translation is the exact Porcaro Shuffle. The bass drum pattern is the Bo Diddley Groove.
In fact, Jeff shares a tutorial video on Rosanna. It's so worth checking out!!!
Even more so, his entire live band drum tutorial is worth its weight in gold, and then some!!!
You do credible job Jared on this very difficult groove. Jeff is a very hard act to follow. If anything, your sixteenth notes on the hat sound just a little bit stiff compared to Jeff's original. His just seemed to flow so effortlessly. It took me the better part of a month 20 years ago to really get this groove down perfectly and it has been a part of my warmup ever since. It is one of the most recognizable grooves in rock and roll and when I warm up everyone over 30 instantly recognizes it
I like seeing this broken down as I have been 'feeling' my way through this shuffle~ I was close, but no cupcake. My aim currently is to learn to play some of these important grooves correctly. I appreciate this lesson, and you know it's up to each of us to 'find' the way to groove this pattern (and all others) for ourselves. Is it possible to capture the rhythmic feel of a piece while playing it perhaps incorrectly? I think so- to a degree. BUT When you learn the right pattern everything eventually falls in place...Thanks Jared!
I love that roll he does at the end of it.
I always thought it was singles but it goes lrr lrr lrr lrr k s with the accents on that third r.
I didnt know Mason Plumlee is teaching drum lessons..
They do look alike! 🤣
Amazing feel and timing Jared. This groove has eluded me for years. Lol
Thank, thank and thank you!!!!
Watching you from São Paulo Brazil🇧🇷
Got the hand bit down, applying kick is really tough!! Practice, practice, practice though!! Great video!!
good work dude. and you can get it on jammit too. the whole song. bare bones. just jeff. superb.
Dear Jared , can i ask who is your influence ? And what genre of music do you really love to play ?
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I envy your kit. It grows on its own. Every new video there are more cymbals. I wish my kit did that. Oh.. by the way. If you ever find that your kit is missing, its because I stole it. Kthanks.
Great tutorial by the way. Tried learning it, but I am not coordinated enough to pull it off lol. Gotta practice more haha
yep this is definitely the way. so start at 40, work up to 65 till your next session. And really emphasize that hi hat technique and then let the snare come naturally, remember how the snare combined with the hi hat sounds rather then trying to process the note locations of it in your head. easier. probably gonna have to dream this before adding those kicks though
Hey man, you are really good at what you do. Your playing, your teaching, and you are humble. Bravo! And you turned me on to Toto. I had no idea they grooved like that. Just never listened to them. Thanks for the video and I am now a subscriber.
Excellent breakdown. Thank you for the score
@2112jamac Ok... I learned it from Jeff Porcaro, so for me, it's the Porcaro shuffle :) For some reason everyone on UA-cam gets hung up on semantics all the time. We all need to understand that there are sometimes MANY different names for the same thing. Just saying'...
- Jared Falk
I saw an 18 year old Georgia Tech student play this song perfect in 1996 and it was the most amazing live music I ever saw by a non professional. Todd was hus name
First off Jared thank you for posting your videos they have helped me get over my plateus on multiple occasions. Could you post what kind of cymbals you use...mostly the funny looking one to the right and down of your hi hats?? Thanks again for the vids
"fool in the rain" and "home at last" are also great examples of the purdie shuffle
I think it's important to note that on the hi-hat rhythm played, it's best to accent the down beat more than the "let" note. If you do this, the groove will not sound as overplayed as it would otherwise. Just something to think about.
What a cool beat. I always liked that song and i can hear it going through my head just from you playing this beat so you have a good feel Jared. Thank you for this video.
@2112jamac Thats kind of true, but actually this groove was done by Jeff Porcaro. He fused the Bernard Purdie shuffle, the John Bonham "Fool in the Rain" shuffle and a shuffle bo-diddly figure on the bass drum. This drum groove was all Jeff Porcaro.
It doesn't matter what its called. It's an awesome technique no matter what. And if there are any Death Cab For Cutie fans, Grapevine Fires has this in it. :D
God damn I love that song
One of my favourite grooves of all time aswell. For me the hardest part about playing this track is actually the chorus part, the base drum pattern always messed up the shuffle and I haven't been able to get it right for like 4 years, since I started playing this song.
You can always go to the source and watch Jeff explain it himself from the very old but still gold Star Licks video
Best explanation yet !
that kick sounds awesome!
In my modest opinion the basic ghost notes are the same played from that drummer, but if you listen carefully the original version played by jeff you will problably notice that there are others ghostes notes..but you know...Jeff was one of the greatest and unique.
good job, thanks! you did it great!
The main thing is to make it dance, Bernard Purdy shufflle, you gotta touch right hand tip of the stick, right hand shoulder of the stick, left hand ghost note, That Is The Shuffle Groove !!!
In the original recorded version on album there is only one ghost note. People have been getting this beat wrong for years. There is also another kick drum note in unison with the final snare hit on count 4. This song is up there with Led Zeppelin's "The Immigrant" song for being transcribed and taught incorrectly. This is just my opinion.
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
Thank you drumeo. We need a lesson on how to play this shuffle but with right hand job inverted (on snare instread of hi hat)
Your kit sounds great!
I had to go back and read the shirt. I think the shirt is cool. Very hard song to show and play Jared. Great job! It was also great to hear you have played this for some time and still try to get it better! It shows we are not alone when playing drums!
This lesson is GOLD!!!
the snare is perfect, great sound
This is the best explanation of the groove of all the ones I've seen online
+Craig DeWolf Even better than its creator Jeffs demonstration? :) UA-cam search for it Craig, its described in detail by Jeff, and actually a lot less technical/cold & complicated then this cats explanation is. No disrespect to this drummer here, but I passionately agree with the comment posted a few below this, this cat just doesn't get the 'feel', its far too too 'dry', serious and mechanical, like the difference between digital sequenced sampled drums and 'analog' drums (I love saying that. To think that playing an actual instrument would be called analog one day was something I never saw coming!)
1:48 The mark of an artistic mind
Great drummer and teacher, thanks man
Its originally the Purdy shuffle. Jeff learned it from. Bernard Purdy. Bernard and Jeff's dad worked together and Bernard mentored him.
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I found this video very helpful, thank you!
Thank you so much for this one great job Fantastic teacher
@Gunbardo Playing along to straight quarter notes was very challenging due to all the space. Having the triplets in there helps a lot.
- Jared Falk
Dude to Honest this video really helped me a lot...
Hank you Jared for this fine lesson. I wanted to learn this for a long time :-)