Why is Jeff Porcaro's Drumming SO HARD?!

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    Breaking The Code Ep.1: Jeff Porcaro (Toto)
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    Episode one of the new drum series, Breaking The Code...and who better to start with than the master himself, Jeff Porcaro. We will specifically be looking at Jeff's drumming with his original band Toto.
    Jeff Porcaro Rosanna. Jeff Porcaro Hold the Line. Jeff Porcaro Mushango Groove. Jeff Porcaro...you get it!!! Toto is one of the most iconic bands in the world. Jeff Porcaro and his drumming for Toto is a masterclass in pop and rock drumming... and that's exactly what we're looking at in this drum lesson. How Jeff Porcaro composed the parts, how Toto recorded them, the sound of the drums in all of Toto songs...groundbreaking on every level for music and drumming. I hope you enjoy this deep dive drum lesson on Jeff Porcaro, Toto, and Jeff's drumming.
    Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
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  • @nelsono4315
    @nelsono4315 2 роки тому +154

    Jeff's groove, feel and pocket were nothing short of impeccable. One of the best of all time

    • @crawfordfanatic
      @crawfordfanatic Рік тому +7

      My late husband was an amazing drummer and always loved the Purdie shuffle. He was trained at the Hart school of music.

    • @mikeyohe4750
      @mikeyohe4750 11 місяців тому +2

      Check out his playing on the first two Les Dudek albums!

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 2 роки тому +327

    Jeff got to play on a Pink Floyd song (“Mother”). Nick Mason was having trouble with the odd time signatures, and the band was on a really tight recording schedule. Eventually, Nick decided to call Jeff and have him record the drums, which Jeff did in one take.

  • @95Ldunc
    @95Ldunc 2 роки тому +68

    My absolute favorite drummer of all time. Such an incredible feel…he played with such an edge that it transcended the music.

  • @kevinmckay4520
    @kevinmckay4520 2 роки тому +163

    I grew up with Jeff and Mike in Sherman oaks California, played battle of the bands against him in 9th grade. We became friends in 1969 Millikan jr. High ,up until we lost touch when he got the gig with steely Dan. Still keep in touch with Steve Porcaro from time. To time Rip Jeff, Mike, Joe. We miss you all. Been playing 55 years 69 years young.😢my close friend Sam spent his birthday with Joe Porcaro back in 2019 at a jazz club in Thousand Oaks Calif. Joe was his teacher for years. Sam was devastated when he heard, the news like we all were Joe was very well loved by everyone who knew him.maybe some of you know or don’t TOTO played the the whole sound track of Michael Jackson’s Thriller, and Eddie Van Halen .

    • @guadalupeeg5034
      @guadalupeeg5034 2 роки тому +8

      Wow that's amazing! I wish I had or would have the opportunity to meet TOTO members, the Porcaros and Steve, Bobby Kimball and Joseph Williams, and David Paige. Amazing musicians!

    • @paulboisvert3215
      @paulboisvert3215 2 роки тому +7

      I was there in Thousand Oaks back in 2019 at Bogies. I have footage of Joe playing with Amel Richard's and the rest of David Garfield's band that night. I talked to Joe that night and told him I was a huge fan. He was so nice to me. What a great memory.

    • @kevinmckay4520
      @kevinmckay4520 2 роки тому +6

      @@paulboisvert3215 hey Paul have a picture of my friend Sam Urdank with his arm around Joe up on the stage of Boige’s wish there was a way I could send it to you. Don’t have Facebook. Just text and Email 😎

    • @thetonetosser
      @thetonetosser 2 роки тому +5

      Thank you for sharing. Jeff is my hero.

    • @drumsport
      @drumsport Рік тому +7

      David Paich was quoted in a drum magazine saying that at 12 years old Jeff was astonishing, playing better than the adults he jammed with at his father's gigs, playing almost as well as he did at 21.

  • @markmcnamara608
    @markmcnamara608 2 роки тому +43

    Music comes from the soul. Jeff Porcaro had a beautiful soul, so the music he made was beautiful

  • @JeffWald
    @JeffWald 3 роки тому +71

    Thank you for stating the FACT that he didn't do alot of ghost notes in the beginning of Rosanna! I got flamed 6 years ago when I uploaded my version and I had a lot of people trying to wear me out over that but I could hear the lack of them in the beginning so that's what I did. Keep up the great work brother!

    • @myprivateyoutube1440
      @myprivateyoutube1440 2 роки тому +11

      Dude. I saw your version years ago. I don't care what anyone else says, you nailed the shuffle. Technically AND the all important feel of it.

    • @JeffWald
      @JeffWald 2 роки тому +9

      @@myprivateyoutube1440 Right on, thanx!! Now that I just finished my Moving Pictures covers (Tom Sawyer today) I have been thinking about redoing Rosanna now that I've been fine tuning the process for 7+ years. Thanx for the support!

    • @adamtparker6515
      @adamtparker6515 Рік тому +1

      Was it Jeff who uttered "amazing" on left channel on track?

  • @MrFeinberg
    @MrFeinberg 2 роки тому +6

    I attended a master class with Jeff Porcaro in 1990. He told us that his concept for Lowdown was Earth Wind and Fire, and he went to tape with quarter notes on the hi-hat. But Boz wanted 16th notes. What you hear is Jeff's original performance with a 16th-note hi-hat groove overdubbed.

  • @wendyslittleprogram3984
    @wendyslittleprogram3984 2 роки тому +24

    I could listen to Jeff play drums all day. His groove was impeccable and unmistakable

  • @fungusdiamonds
    @fungusdiamonds 2 роки тому +10

    Some years ago, a random video introduced me to Jeff Porcaro. Today, I've watched hours of interviews, live/studio playing and drum clinics. What did I learn? He was an outstanding, remarkable, one of a kind musician, colleague and human being. I'd love a movie about his life.
    PS: I don't even play drums (bassist,guitarrist)

  • @bwolohan18
    @bwolohan18 2 роки тому +44

    In my opinion 'Georgy Porgy' has the best 4/4 basic uncomplicated groove I've ever heard and I've heard thousands.

    • @hp2823
      @hp2823 2 місяці тому

      Have a listen to Lowdown by boz scaggs, that trumps it imo

    • @bwolohan18
      @bwolohan18 2 місяці тому

      @hp2823 I know it. That's Jeff too

  • @srenlumholtz6242
    @srenlumholtz6242 Рік тому +5

    Just learned he did Dire Straits 'Calling Elvis'... Love the drums on that.

  • @theadamblock
    @theadamblock 3 роки тому +264

    Can't think of a drummer more deserving for Ep. 1

    • @StephenTaylorDrums
      @StephenTaylorDrums  3 роки тому +28

      He's the man!

    • @darkpassenger1980
      @darkpassenger1980 3 роки тому +4

      That's the problem that's so nice to have, you can't list a single "greatest ever" Steve Gadd, Bill Bruford, Ginger Baker, Max Roach.... it's impossible. Porcaro was great, but not even top 10 imo

    • @toniseppala8661
      @toniseppala8661 3 роки тому +1

      ♥️

    • @Herbster41
      @Herbster41 2 роки тому

      I think Neil Peart was Episode 1.

    • @brentmcwilliams4332
      @brentmcwilliams4332 2 роки тому +11

      Porcaro is my favorite.

  • @oldmanpence4803
    @oldmanpence4803 Рік тому +3

    nice job man. Bass player here, and I've loved Jeff's playing as well as other Toto members like Simon Philips for years and years. Well done!

  • @ernieball20
    @ernieball20 Рік тому +6

    I think... Jeff is a King of hi hats... nobody does better than Jeff in hi hats.. That groove ❤️❤️👍👍

    • @georgesmith4639
      @georgesmith4639 10 місяців тому +1

      I'd put Stewart Copeland up there at least at the same level.

  • @StephenTaylorDrums
    @StephenTaylorDrums  3 роки тому +1

    Who do you want to see in this series?
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    Episode one of the new drum series, Breaking The Code...and who better to start with than the master himself, Jeff Porcaro. We will specifically be looking at Jeff's drumming with his original band Toto.
    Toto is one of the most iconic bands in the world. Jeff Porcaro and his drumming for Toto is a masterclass in pop and rock drumming... and that's exactly what we're looking at in this drum lesson. How Jeff Porcaro composed the parts, how Toto recorded them, the sound of the drums in all of Toto songs...groundbreaking on every level for music and drumming. I hope you enjoy this deep dive drum lesson on Jeff Porcaro, Toto, and Jeff's drumming.
    Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
    Check out the other video I did on Jeff here:
    Top 5 Jeff Porcaro Drum Beats Every Drummer Should Know
    ua-cam.com/video/F_ZHQKOm_6g/v-deo.html

  • @sheldonb9002
    @sheldonb9002 2 роки тому +21

    FYI: “St. George and the Dragon” is from Toto’s 2nd album “Hydra.” Love this video, thanks for showing how great Porcaro’s drumming truly is.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 2 роки тому

    I've been playing for 2 weeks now...and just love it. After looking at a lot of beginning drum video/courses....your presentations are the easiest to follow and understand. Some guys just spend an inordinate amount of time talking. Your explanations are concise and clear....then you play it. Perfect. Thank you.

  • @aydenseay7978
    @aydenseay7978 2 роки тому +35

    I’ve been trying to learn Mama by Toto but the groove that Jeff has is insane

    • @jml-rj5re
      @jml-rj5re 2 роки тому +6

      Another fantastic Hydra track!

    • @seansherrod8725
      @seansherrod8725 2 роки тому +6

      Now THAT'S a CLASSIC Jeff Porcaro drum groove!

    • @RogerBiwandu
      @RogerBiwandu Рік тому +1

      Better than Rosanna in my ears, and Rosanna is really something else !!!

  • @FrankBriggs
    @FrankBriggs 21 день тому

    Jeff Porcaro was a one of a kind drummer and person. No one plays like him. Thanks for this!

  • @BojanBojovic
    @BojanBojovic 2 роки тому +27

    But really those grooves mean nothing without Jeff, his performance and his groove is impossible to repeat. Incredible drummer, to me the best.

    • @Andrewthestagehand
      @Andrewthestagehand Рік тому

      Jeff was a fantastic drummer, but there are MANY much better than him. His beats aren't that complicated😂

    • @BojanBojovic
      @BojanBojovic Рік тому +2

      @@Andrewthestagehand Hehe, maybe for some people complexity is important, however for me the groove is what counts. :) After all this is very subjective, people like different things.

    • @Fredphlegm
      @Fredphlegm 3 місяці тому

      ​@@AndrewthestagehandIf there are many that are better, then perhaps you should list all whom you think are better. I will decide for myself if you are full of shit, or not.
      If you don't list anyone, then you are just taking up space, or under the age of 45, and know nothing.

  • @james732007
    @james732007 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video. And you're 100% correct about Rosanna. There are no ghost notes on the drum intro on the original recording.

  • @Soaptoaster
    @Soaptoaster 2 роки тому +14

    I feel like you're the Rick Beato of drumming and this is meant as an enormous compliment to you both.

  • @andreghouse9192
    @andreghouse9192 Рік тому +1

    Im not 100% sure, but they were may not have been named Toto back then, but they were friends in high school and were already a band way before they even started doing session work. If i remember an article I read, David Paiche got him a session/touring gig with Sonny and Cher, and from there his groove became n0torious and his session work demand skyrocketed. But I may be wrong.

  • @russellsuttles2173
    @russellsuttles2173 2 роки тому +8

    Boy music misses Jeff’s influence in the industry as well, as we fans miss him so. I patterned my style after Jeff’s attention to the details in timing and dynamics. He is my number one drummer of all time. I also loved how cleanly he played and that was that attention to detail that I alluded too. He contributed so much to so many artist careers and to TOTO’s fans.

  • @coopj250
    @coopj250 2 роки тому +9

    Best drum teacher on UA-cam by far. Always entertaining and humble.
    Cheers Steven.

  • @oliverpieper4634
    @oliverpieper4634 2 роки тому +17

    Hey Steven.
    Thank you for the Rosanna version. I have often had heated discussions with students, other teachers about what and how the ghost notes are set here.
    It was an incredibly annoying topic, but you have now finally put the myth ad absurdum, as I have always seen it too.
    Thanks!

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 роки тому +1

      There’s a vid on UA-cam of Porcaro playing and teaching it.

    • @fernandomartincom
      @fernandomartincom 2 роки тому

      And the bass drum pattern Jeff plays in Rosanna is a variation of the Bo Diddley beat 🤷🏻‍♂️ the real Bo Diddley beat is the same as the 3:2 son clave

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 3 роки тому +4

    @2:20 - Georgy Porgy is a dance floor classic. Played it many times as a DJ for receptive crowds. Cheryl Lyn really helped it along and I love that horn / stab percussion break down back into the groove

  • @mattthomas214
    @mattthomas214 2 роки тому +3

    The musicianship of all these dudes is simply off the charts

  • @EricaSwitzer
    @EricaSwitzer 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite Jeff groove: Boz Scaggs’s “Gimme The Goods,” especially the blistering outro.

  • @francesterry8650
    @francesterry8650 5 місяців тому

    My youngest son is a drummer and he mastered Jeff pocaros' Rosanna last year, he found it difficult but it was so good to hear live!

  • @trip_the_light
    @trip_the_light День тому

    Thank you for this cool video. I've been loving on Toto songs recently and now I realize what a huge part the percussion plays in how much they rock!!

  • @Canyon2023
    @Canyon2023 10 місяців тому +1

    Rosanna is the only song I ever liked from Toto, still to this day. But I LOVE Jeff!!!! He's my favorite groove drummer.

  • @volbeatdbv9846
    @volbeatdbv9846 2 роки тому +6

    Jeff was simply brilliant...God bless..

  • @luisjaviertineolira6979
    @luisjaviertineolira6979 3 роки тому +26

    Should have included these chains from the seventh one. Greatest groove all over the tune. And its a ballad. Long live the legacy of Jeff Porcaro.

    • @StephenTaylorDrums
      @StephenTaylorDrums  3 роки тому +12

      Such a great cut.
      Look, if it wouldn't have bored the majority of the population, we could have done a masterclass on his ballad playing. It's insanely wonderful.

    • @luisjaviertineolira6979
      @luisjaviertineolira6979 3 роки тому

      @@StephenTaylorDrums true!

    • @Tristanrgreene11
      @Tristanrgreene11 3 роки тому +3

      One of my favorites as well. Vinnie colaiuta flipped when he first heard that track saying it was next level at the time. So smooth and a great tune, great one of steve lukather at a good point in his playing and singing especially.

    • @deancooper6300
      @deancooper6300 2 роки тому +1

      A brilliant song of Seventh one, another great example of Jeff and Mike's playing together, the bass on this track and Jeff's shuffle groove is sublime🕶️

    • @Phoebedumplings
      @Phoebedumplings 2 роки тому +1

      100%

  • @chadwagner174
    @chadwagner174 2 роки тому +24

    Great episode, and Jeff definitely deserves the credit. I think you missed one of his greatest ever recordings, "These Chains". Although it's kind of slow & steady, it demonstrates incredible control, and later in the song such moving power. His complex ride, snare & tom combinations are so satisfying to the ears.

    • @smoodystl
      @smoodystl 2 роки тому +2

      Still one of my top 5 Toto tunes, and he is why. A Toto ballad is one of the best regardless.. but this one just nails it - Jeff nails it (of course, words of a listener, not the talent of a drummer :)

  • @mjm5081
    @mjm5081 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks for honoring Jeff! There are so many songs featuring Jeff's incredible playing...One of my faves is Gaucho by Steely Dan from the album of the same name. To me, Jeff's drumming is as sublime as the song itself.
    🙏 ✌ ❤ 🎶 🌎 👏 Jeff

    • @marlaplunk2833
      @marlaplunk2833 2 роки тому

      Gaucho drumming is for sure legendary. I just recently became addicted to that song - largely due to Jeff's groove.

    • @SlightReturn666
      @SlightReturn666 2 роки тому +1

      It’s hard to figure out exactly where his playing is on the Gaucho LP because SD was developing the Wendel drum machine and used it all over the album in the mix with JP. At any rate, “Gaucho” is probably my favorite track of all time - crazy good!

    • @mjm5081
      @mjm5081 2 роки тому

      @@SlightReturn666 😃 👍 👊

  • @somethinginmind2151
    @somethinginmind2151 3 роки тому +19

    I'm not even a drummer but I love Jeff

  • @noferblatz
    @noferblatz 3 роки тому +7

    One of my favorite drummers. Incredibly talented. Thanks.

  • @FaustoBernacchi
    @FaustoBernacchi 2 роки тому +6

    There's a Sergio Mendes record called Brasileiro and in it, in my opinion, there is one of Jeff's underated masterpiece groove. The track is Lua soberana. Check it. The man phisically died but, as far I can see, he's alive and still kicking in our memory. Unforgettable Jeff.

  • @mulletmanrobertvandamme505
    @mulletmanrobertvandamme505 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for honoring Jeff in this video

  • @Karenann0313
    @Karenann0313 2 роки тому +3

    I'm not a drummer..but I've been in awe of jeff since 82...still am. He was not a big guy and how he had the stamina is magical

  • @TerryBrownMechEng
    @TerryBrownMechEng 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for that. Jeff is the greatest influence on my drumming. "I'll be over you" is one of my favourite Toto songs and "Farenheit" is my favourite album. Thanks for the sheet music! And thanks for all the other content you so generously provide.

  • @keepthemetalflowing
    @keepthemetalflowing Рік тому +3

    Jeff grew up with his dad, Joe Porcaro's influence on him. He learned the rudiments, he learned to apply his chops not to showing off or soloing but to how it would be effective and incorporated into "the song" -whichever song it was. Jeff was highly technical yet he was also very consistent and of course, as mentioned by other commentors, his time was superb and his FEEL, how he related to each song whether it was a hired gun session or Toto. Jeff never let his technical abilities get in the way of the song, he was able to incorporate them INTO the song to make the song better (case in point: Rosanna). His playing on whatever track is so "hard" because it was Jeff blending in like a chameleon to fit the feel and vibe of the song. He also brought with him a HUGE toolbox of chops, technique, feel and musical understanding. I used to own his instruction video he did around '86 or '87 on VHS. I watched it over and over (you can find it on UA-cam, I believe). Jeff is telling us where he's placing each beat, how he's accenting and then shows or tells us how he can change it up. Jeff may not have been a soloist but he was not one to mess with musically. Even the legendary Vinnie Colaiuta, who Jeff was friends with spoke of him with giant respect, as did Jeff's eventual "replacement" in Toto, the never underestimated SImon Phillips. Jeff had DEEP musical understanding, and that in part is due to him soaking up what he saw and learned from his dad. Carlos Vega was a huge Jeff fan and played in some respects very similarly to him, yet had his own style. Jeff was one of a kind. Bernard Purdie is in that same class of player. He makes it look easy but it's anything but. It's time, feel/touch, technique and musical understanding blending into one conscious or unconscious methodology.

    • @Fredphlegm
      @Fredphlegm 3 місяці тому +1

      Jeff was taught by generations of "Side-Men" which is what terrific drummers were called because they added their talent to make the dish, or the songs nearly perfect, and required in all elements of jazz, and blues.
      The world's best drummers take great care to never get in the way of a wonderful piece of music, but to apply the finishing touches.

  • @ghettostreamlabs5724
    @ghettostreamlabs5724 3 роки тому +64

    Between Jeff and Lukather, i think they were on every album cut in the 70's and 80's lol. I always feel like Jeff is underrated simply because a lot of people only know 5 Toto songs, but there is so much more to his musical story. This series will be great and glad Jeff was episode one. I hope Carl Pamler (ELP) finds his way into this series too.

    • @avbeast
      @avbeast 3 роки тому +4

      Underrated?

    • @StephenTaylorDrums
      @StephenTaylorDrums  3 роки тому +12

      I agree that a lot of people don't realize his resume would still be legend status even without Toto

    • @marksimpson2321
      @marksimpson2321 3 роки тому +6

      Porcaro does the drums on most of the tracks on the Dire Straits' album 'On Every Steet'. The drums on 'When it comes to you' are just amazing! Jeff was a boss.

    • @21Danieltbs
      @21Danieltbs 2 роки тому +4

      I don't believe he was/is underrated by any means. From Steely Dan, Bozz Scaggs, Al Jerreau and countless others. You name it, he's played on it.

    • @stevenqirkle
      @stevenqirkle 2 роки тому +2

      Toto has 5 songs?

  • @courtneybarr9332
    @courtneybarr9332 Рік тому +1

    I think something that goes understated about Jeff's playing is his dynamics. When he played the hi hat it was simply musical. That's the best place to start in my opinion. The grooves themselves are timeless but not necessarily the most important aspect to focus on when studying Jeff. I think listening to his playing gets you into the "why?" of drumming. The level beyond playing notes where it becomes about laser precision placement of sounds that enhances the music.

  • @jexherradura1825
    @jexherradura1825 2 роки тому

    so true when I first try to learn rosanna i don't here tons of ghost notes 'then while the song progresses the ghost comes more and more, i did argue that with some drummers but you know they already watch the VHS tape of Jeff teaching so i just didn't contest it .now i watch youre video thank god someon proved it thank you very much such a relief to me ,and i've been playing drums since 92' thank you man.

  • @robertrutkowski7186
    @robertrutkowski7186 3 роки тому +31

    Mushanga is an awesome groove. Gotta learn that one.

  • @mattheweernisse1963
    @mattheweernisse1963 2 роки тому +9

    Maybe already mentioned, but I'm pretty sure the cowbell on "St. George" is being played by Lenny Castro, who played percussion on most of their albums. Jeff is playing the high hat, and you can clearly hear some cool sixteenth-note flourishes in there. This is a great video, and awesome to see you pay respects to such giant talent. Just seemed worth mentioning.

  • @vancedylan5842
    @vancedylan5842 2 роки тому +4

    Why is Jeff Porcaro's Drumming SO HARD?! Because he's Jeff Porcaro

    • @charlesjames9783
      @charlesjames9783 8 місяців тому

      Because the drummers main job is keeping time. His time is so tight. The subtleties in his hihat sticking is hard to reproduce.

  • @SuperStrik9
    @SuperStrik9 3 місяці тому

    Jeff was an incredible drummer and an even more beautiful soul.

  • @mattharper69
    @mattharper69 3 роки тому +9

    Yes, exactly, I remember watching his Star licks video and thinking: all those ghost notes he is playing in the Rosanna demo on the video are cool but don't remember hearing them all on the actual recording

  • @thetonetosser
    @thetonetosser 2 роки тому +2

    Very good explanation of Jeff's style. Outside Toto, I think my favourite session of Jeff's is George Benson's 'Lady Love Me'. Of course, he played a fabulous cut on everything he worked on. Hopping from session to session with two kits. One being played, the other being set up ready for him in another studio. So the Lady Love me track is a testament to his brilliance. It's a great song for sure, but Jeff just totally makes the song into the hit that it became. He carries the groove all the way through from classic Jeff intro to the classic Jeff fills at the very end. I have many records and CDs featuring Jeff with many different artists. But for me, and in my personal opinion, that track nails his ability as a world class musician. Truly magical and sorely missed. May he rest in peace.

  • @jml-rj5re
    @jml-rj5re 2 роки тому +8

    St. George and the Dragon is from Hydra (not the first album), their most underrated album. Prog rock- jazz - pop hybrid. A fantastic album and my personal favorite along with The Seventh One, which is also overlooked.

  • @SeaMark782
    @SeaMark782 Рік тому

    Thnks for the great video. I guess you might say I'm a lucky guy, I went to High School with Jeff and his brothers, Lukather and even Kevin DuBrow of Quiet Riot fame. Jim Gordon also went to Grant, a few years earlier.
    Saw Jeff play with Steely Dan a few times.
    He and Mike left quite a legacy, my old school.

  • @djknat
    @djknat 2 роки тому

    "i can't play drums, can you help?" "sure, I can't either. let's figure it out together"

  • @mrsupportfriend
    @mrsupportfriend 2 роки тому +8

    How about his one handed sixteenth notes on "I Keep Forgettin'"? AMAZING! Ran it down once then nailed it on TAKE 2!

    • @SlightReturn666
      @SlightReturn666 Рік тому +2

      Similar on Ruby Baby by Donald Fagen. Man my wrist is absolutely dead 3/4 of the way through that track! I don't get how he had so much stamina!!

  • @TheSylvanpass
    @TheSylvanpass 7 місяців тому

    I love Jeff’s drumming. Thank you for the bomber analysis!

  • @jmvm31
    @jmvm31 3 роки тому +35

    You should have added These Chains...one of Jeff's juicyest grooves. He plays a similar one on Nik Kershaw's 'Walkabout' song

    • @evanjazzista
      @evanjazzista 2 роки тому +2

      I was hoping someone would mention _Walkabout_ in here, obrigado! :)
      Also _Breakin' Away_ by Al Jarreau features Jeff on drums and has that same feel.

    • @tuptekgaming321
      @tuptekgaming321 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@evanjazzista I love Breakin' Away. I also love his work on Mornin', Lady Love Me (One More Time) and Cherish. And ofcourse many more songs!

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree!

    • @jmvm31
      @jmvm31 2 роки тому +1

      Also the same kind of groove in Larry Carltons song "NY LA". Check it out.

    • @crazyferret9409
      @crazyferret9409 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely

  • @qhines9272
    @qhines9272 6 місяців тому

    Okay I'm at 80s baby and I love this song so I literally had to look up the drummer and I'm glad because that man got some soul that's amazing, love hold the line because of that double bass beat,and I'm in love with drums. High-hat the best sound ever!!

  • @SuperBab21
    @SuperBab21 3 роки тому +3

    absolutely right ..the ghost notes start after the second verse of the song in Rosanna

  • @johnniedelonghi473
    @johnniedelonghi473 Рік тому +1

    JEFF IS GOOOOOD DUDE!!

  • @jjadaddy
    @jjadaddy 2 роки тому +12

    How the heck do you not include and demonstrate the groove he played for, Lowdown? That's effing stunning dude.

    • @jacobherring6445
      @jacobherring6445 Рік тому +2

      They used over dubbing on the recording so there is a hihat pattern during the chorus during the ride part. A lot of the song has two hihat parts at once which isn’t possible to perform live

    • @jjadaddy
      @jjadaddy Рік тому

      @@jacobherring6445 I can play the basic groove myself, but he doesn't even mention the song. Just dumb shit.

    • @amichaelcollinsdrums
      @amichaelcollinsdrums Рік тому

      @@jacobherring6445Yep. Dig the hard panning. Same can be said of some of Copeland’s stuff. Stewart has straight up said there’s no way he coulda done that stuff in real time!

  • @pennyfarmer1423
    @pennyfarmer1423 Рік тому

    He was just one of my favorite drummers just knew how to take a song and do the rhythm that's just so cool

  • @odaydrums
    @odaydrums 2 роки тому

    I got to study with his dad Joe and Jeff came in to a clinic. Both great people. I was so lucky to meet them.

  • @benjahnz
    @benjahnz Рік тому +1

    Thanks for demonstrating that only Jeff Pocaro can play like Jeff Pocaro.

  • @bartlangenberg8180
    @bartlangenberg8180 3 роки тому +13

    Can you please do Simon Phillips as well??
    Not only because he played with TOTO. But he just a brilliant drummer.

  • @crazy8sdrums
    @crazy8sdrums 2 роки тому +9

    I think in the case of a lot of Toto's songs, Jeff's drumming is really hard to replicate to the sound of the recording because of the tremendous amount of production. All of the cats were studio pros so they used all the studio finesse they could to make those songs as good as possible. It is impossible to get your live drums and cymbals to sound like Jeff did on the recordings.

    • @Diesel0807
      @Diesel0807 Рік тому

      Thats not what we are talking about here, production has nothing to do with pocket and time or Jeff's magic ability to play the perfect parts to compliment the song .. jeff is hard to cop because he has his own unique time, you may learn the part but you won't sound like him .. his signature was silky hihats and late back beats he liked giving his 4/4 a loping feel if the track was enhanced by it

    • @crazy8sdrums
      @crazy8sdrums Рік тому

      @@Diesel0807 "Thats not what we are talking about here..." . You weren't talking here. I was. Your own channel is remarkably devoid of anything....there is no you.

  • @kevincrouch2732
    @kevincrouch2732 3 роки тому +6

    Jeff always the King a superb musician who will always be remembered 😎

  • @mattharper69
    @mattharper69 3 роки тому +5

    Legend drummer covering another legend drummer... great work sir !

  • @abacadaniel04
    @abacadaniel04 Рік тому +3

    God rest Jeff, his drumming is pure magic. ✌️😙

  • @riff1117
    @riff1117 8 місяців тому

    Thank you, thank you thank you! You finally got it right I have been having this debate and struggle and fight with people all these years about Rosanna as a matter of fact now it’s readily available that you can listen to on UA-cam listen to the isolated drum track. he starts out exactly like you said, and he slowly builds up more and more, shuffling to the point where the guitar solo portion has him switching to the bell of the ride symbol, and you literally hear him hitting twos and fours and all the rest of snare drum shuffle amazing also the way he snaps into the kicks from those rolls that start out and build up intensity right on the second beat of the never in my life. When the song came out, I threw my drumsticks out the window that nearly made me insane. Trying to figure out how we did it. Thank you for settling the argument for me.

  • @andthensome512
    @andthensome512 2 роки тому +3

    One of my favorite performances is his drumming on Boz Scaggs, Lido Shuffle.

  • @wormtownpaul
    @wormtownpaul 11 місяців тому

    Jeff's right handed 16th notes on the hi hat are a thing of beauty. I don't know how he can play them that fast and smoothly. Any tips?

  • @r.m.9196
    @r.m.9196 3 роки тому +2

    this series is amazing, thank you so much for it

  • @jiminy7277
    @jiminy7277 10 місяців тому

    Adding in more ghost notes and opening and closing the hi-hat as the song develops is precisely what Bernard did on Babylon Sisters.

  • @Notintimidated2013
    @Notintimidated2013 Місяць тому

    The groove on that ballad reminds me of the drumming on “sweetest taboo” by Sade.

  • @VinsonTate
    @VinsonTate Рік тому

    Thanks for the great history of Jeff.I love your videos.Keep it rolling.

  • @HorologicRannygazoo
    @HorologicRannygazoo 3 роки тому +1

    So glad you included "Can You Hear What I'm Saying". Your Mushanga core groove is how I play it, though my toms are positioned more like Jeff's, and I hear rim clicks that vary, less pronounced in the beginning, and occurring more as the song builds, much like the Rosanna ghost notes, which you are correct on. A lot of the controversy on Mushanga is that the drums are so deep in the mix that you can't state with certainty what is being heard. Another difficulty on figuring out Toto is that percussion from Lenny Castro, Joe Porcaro and Jeff is all smooshed together in their sound. I would have picked "These Chains" over "I'll Be Over You", "Jake to the Bone" instead of "St. George", and "Till the End" instead of "Waiting for your Love". But I love all of those, too. And though it was more rock than groove, I always loved playing "Carmen", too. Great job!!!!!

  • @LittleMAC78
    @LittleMAC78 2 роки тому

    The Rosanna intro ghost notes are more like Fool in the Rain, not being consistent through the whole groove but then it changes into Purdie's shuffle variation with ghosts through every triplet.
    Even harder (for me as a crappyish drummer!) is the bass drum variation which I've never seen videos for during the 'Meet you all the way' part of the song whilst keeping the full shuffle going with the hands.

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 2 роки тому +2

    So, I think one of his best grooves, if not a few weren't in the band, but session work. I LOVE "I Keep Forgettin'". I think it's better than most of the grooves here. The kick beat and 16th note with a change to 8th note with closed going to open hi-hat is not only amazing in sound but it's really hard.

  • @CraigShawCraigShaw
    @CraigShawCraigShaw 2 роки тому +2

    You can learn so much about Jeff's style by watching him play. His grip and wrist movements are quite different to many other drummers

    • @Ticker2
      @Ticker2 2 роки тому

      Ding. Ding. Ding. Your motion effects your sound. Another example of this was Charlie Watts.

  • @steevidrums
    @steevidrums 2 роки тому +23

    Jeff's playing mystifies me! Sure, I get hear all the notes and what he's playing, but it's that thing in-between that you can't put your finger on which makes him sound like Jeff and no one else.

    • @krishouseholder261
      @krishouseholder261 2 роки тому +2

      Ah yeah, the Jeff “ ghost notes”!! It’s the millisecond pause of feeling-the beat❤️😎

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 роки тому +5

      We do ourselves a disservice by notating music in eighth notes and 16th notes. We don’t have a way of communicating the millisecond timing that conveys feel. It really comes down to that level of precision.

    • @steevidrums
      @steevidrums 2 роки тому

      If you haven't, seriously take 30 mins of your day out to watch this video of him at MIT in the late 80s. It's less about the playing, it's about the man. When he does get playing later on when someone asks him about reggae beats, he nails out the fattest groove.
      ua-cam.com/video/dQ6tzbKsKKk/v-deo.html

  • @KirksDrumRoom
    @KirksDrumRoom 3 роки тому +5

    Great examples of Jeff's parts. Always informative content. Love your channel, Stephen!

  • @danlc95
    @danlc95 3 роки тому +5

    The example Jeff played of Rosanna in his instructional video is what he did on the second verse.
    I personally love how they were sparse in the beginning, but blossomed later in the song.
    It propels that second verse in a way that's unexplainable for me.

  • @GabbyBabby-pp1lx
    @GabbyBabby-pp1lx 11 місяців тому

    He was, is, and will be the master for all time.

  • @marcelkoetze9794
    @marcelkoetze9794 3 роки тому +38

    I believe 'S.t. George and the dragon' is from their second Album 'Hydra' and not from the first album 'Toto'. Besides that, great video!

    • @bebobalula
      @bebobalula 2 роки тому +2

      You're absolutely right, and it's a great song.

    • @theshaker6458
      @theshaker6458 2 роки тому +1

      you are right

    • @theshaker6458
      @theshaker6458 2 роки тому

      Hell of an album. The half-time shuffle Jeff plays in "Mamma" is just perfect...

  • @MatthewBarelick
    @MatthewBarelick 7 місяців тому

    Jeffs drumming isnt "Hard" its CHALLENGING and thats what makes it fun to play! When we can play like he did that's when we know we've made it! That isnt something thats developed its in his genes and you can hear how his dads jazz improvisation has influenced his performances! Too bad he left us way too soon but his songs were the soundtrack of my life all throughout the 70's and 80's! I would have love to have met him but never had the chance here on earth but perhaps we shall meet in heaven one day! RIP JEFF i am sure you're playing a gig in heaven as i write this!

  • @megatedassaultituary6783
    @megatedassaultituary6783 7 місяців тому

    Jeff's instructional DVD is so trippy I feel like it takes place inside one of those buildings featured on prog albums like the Royal Scam or Going for the ONe xD

  • @liberamor01
    @liberamor01 2 роки тому +1

    I love Porcaro in Goodbye Eleonor too.
    Thanks for the video

    • @teresaclark1508
      @teresaclark1508 2 роки тому

      He's a monster on that video. It is obviously live .

  • @raztratt
    @raztratt 3 роки тому +4

    The thing i did not heard or feel before on this subject is the real clear difference between Jeff and Simon who took over. The groove with Jeffs heavy right foot is sooo good. I did not really notice until Shannon played later and was so much closer to Jeff then Simon.
    I think the Africa version played live by Shannon is the best sounding live drums of Toto so far :)

  • @megaforse
    @megaforse 2 роки тому

    Just awesome. I'm glad you described how Rosanna is progressive with the ghost notes. Cheers!

  • @johngrobson4899
    @johngrobson4899 Рік тому

    Wow Awesome delivery of Jeff Pocarro💎👏💎👏💎🥁🔥🥁🔥🥁💯💯💯💯💎👏💎

  • @meekoloco
    @meekoloco 3 роки тому +1

    I like this series idea a lot! Well done! I’m glad you had Waiting For Your Love on the list, killer groove! And I love that lone, sort of out of time china/crash at the top of the keyboard solo in that song. Dead nuts correct on the Rosanna intro. Congratulations on the new studio!

  • @karlhungus5554
    @karlhungus5554 2 роки тому

    I'm neither a drummer nor a musician, but I've been watching Jeff Porcaro videos and found your channel. Very nice work. If you get tired of being a musician, it looks like you could easily transition into an MMA career.

  • @bane1240
    @bane1240 2 роки тому +2

    Awesom episode! To me (and maybe others), Jeff is on the Mount Rushmore of all time drummers. Him, Bonham, Peart and (for me) Danny Carey (Tool). Jeff’s unbelievable reach in his session career is amazing. Has played on so many well known songs over his career and his work in Toto is obviously stellar. Shame he left us so soon. Love his instructional vids and thanks for acknowledging him in this episode.

    • @johncollins5552
      @johncollins5552 2 роки тому

      I always heard a lot of Purdie, another fantastic pocket player and master of those shuffle grooves .
      Dennis Chambers and Steve Gadd also.

  • @thejonathandoan
    @thejonathandoan 3 роки тому +1

    09:53 I appreciate your attention to detail. This reminds me of a demonstration I saw on UA-cam of Mike Portnoy and his playing on Dream Theater's "Honor Thy Father". What he showed his audience was not exactly like his playing on the album version. Though it was close, it had morphed and expanded.
    Porcaro is a legend. Thanks for sharing your expertise and demonstrating why he deserves his status! Great video.

  • @SmokeBreakStudios
    @SmokeBreakStudios 3 роки тому +3

    Love this in depth content on a great drummer. Thanks Stephen!

  • @djmylesmatisse
    @djmylesmatisse 2 роки тому +4

    Jeff Porcaro is the main reason I listened to every single song on every single Toto album with him behind the kit. I also created a massive playlist on my Spotify from not only his Toto songs but many of the other artists he drummed for as a session drummer. An incredible body of work. Thank you Stephen.

  • @zekie106
    @zekie106 Рік тому

    You know a drummer is professional when they can play Rosanna

  • @adrianbird1139
    @adrianbird1139 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for clarifying the Rosanna ghost note discrepancies.