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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Selene, an original song by Michael Manring, from the DVD - Live in Toronto with Don Ross & Michael Manring special guest Andy McKee available at www.candyrat.com

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  • @German1184
    @German1184 10 років тому +998

    Ladies and gentlemen, now that Mr. Manring has finished tuning his bass guitar, he would like to play something for you.

    • @rafaelneville
      @rafaelneville 6 років тому +7

      XDDDDD

    • @plaguedoct0r
      @plaguedoct0r 5 років тому +9

      Crowd: DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

    • @MrSilver261
      @MrSilver261 4 роки тому +4

      ive overdosed on LOLS !

    • @Alexplayerbass
      @Alexplayerbass 4 роки тому +2

      German Lourenço Mejia 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MrRusCrack
      @MrRusCrack 4 роки тому +2

      LUL

  • @ollietodd4845
    @ollietodd4845 8 років тому +294

    Another under-appreciated musical genius of the last 20 years.

    • @simo7393
      @simo7393 8 років тому +57

      I guess he is appreciated just by the right people...

    • @SolReyes1
      @SolReyes1 7 років тому +4

      best comment ever.

    • @Beemerboy324
      @Beemerboy324 7 років тому +5

      Such is the lot of true genius.

    • @plaguedoct0r
      @plaguedoct0r 5 років тому +11

      There are so many. But maybe they were appreciated by the right people. Music should never be popular, it should be personal. Life has taught me that popular music is the wrong music. Too many people don't care about the art for popularity to be a measure of success in music.

    • @fryBASS
      @fryBASS 3 роки тому +4

      Was just nominated as top 3 bassists of 2020 🍻

  • @gumballb154
    @gumballb154 2 роки тому +48

    I feel like that melody has been ringing in my head all my life

    • @aceymedia
      @aceymedia 2 роки тому +2

      Its really nostalgic! Reminds me a LOT of the old Sega Megadrive game music!

    • @emilio8381
      @emilio8381 Рік тому

      Same for me, magic

    • @desi_anarch
      @desi_anarch Рік тому

      Same

  • @mikestory2272
    @mikestory2272 Рік тому +40

    Never gets old. I listen to this about 10 times a year. In the top 10 most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 9 місяців тому

      The Enormous Room is in my own top 10. Manring is a genius

  • @Raddland
    @Raddland 10 років тому +297

    One of the prettiest sounding performances I've ever heard. Bass harmonics are already very ethereal sounding. But Manring's use of the Hyperbass to emphasize and change the notes is like a pure shot right to the emotions of the listener.
    This is such a pretty, but tragic sounding track. Manring is a wizard on the bass.

    • @ContradanzaEU
      @ContradanzaEU 10 років тому +31

      The wizard is sitting behind Manring, Manring himself is a god

    • @plaguedoct0r
      @plaguedoct0r 5 років тому +3

      How dare you sully him with such a plebeian word as "pretty". WE MUST INVENT A NEW WORD. THIS NEEDS A NEW WORD!!!

    • @songanhguitar
      @songanhguitar 4 роки тому

      @@plaguedoct0r preauty then. I'm a Leper, btw :x

    • @alex.thedeadite
      @alex.thedeadite 3 роки тому

      @@plaguedoct0r Hypercalm

  • @builditwithlegos
    @builditwithlegos 13 років тому +86

    That silence at the end before the crowd began to cheer is the sound of respect.

  • @myckëta
    @myckëta 28 днів тому +2

    I first saw this video when I was 12-13 years old. Then I realized that the world of music has only a few diamonds per billion stones, which you just need to look for. Since then, I began to be interested in that same indie world of music that no one cares about and discovered many genres, and began to write music myself. Returning to listening to a melody that you haven't heard for a decade - you return to the days of naive and carefree childhood. Magic. He is certainly a magician

  • @plaguedoct0r
    @plaguedoct0r 6 років тому +41

    I can barely contain myself for how amazingly beautiful this is. It both feels good and hurts. It's...just amazing.

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 3 роки тому +2

      Check out his song “The Enormous Room” if you aren’t familiar with it. It’s amazing

  • @markkeeper7771
    @markkeeper7771 5 років тому +59

    To whoever was responsible of recording this, Thanks for the quality sound recording :)

    • @prioritytree
      @prioritytree Рік тому +5

      I have the CD, it sounds way better on my sound system at home.

    • @Mantium47
      @Mantium47 Рік тому +1

      @@prioritytree Send me a copy xD

  • @zamardii12
    @zamardii12 8 років тому +65

    What a hypnotizing track... Hauntingly beautiful.

  • @calebjorstaad6128
    @calebjorstaad6128 5 років тому +37

    3:55 is a harmonic that bends the fabric of space.

  • @MrGritstoner
    @MrGritstoner 13 років тому +20

    he uses the "techy" techniques to create something beautifull,not to show off.the result is an incredible and touching piece of music

  • @eldamianos
    @eldamianos 10 років тому +393

    tune: O M F G

  • @matmarah155
    @matmarah155 5 років тому +14

    Incredible. Never have I heard anything like this performance

  • @TigerRatProductions
    @TigerRatProductions 13 років тому +2

    I met Michael. Nice guy, very humble. Best bass player in the world.

  • @togue777
    @togue777 12 років тому +7

    I could listen to a 10 or 15 minute version of this song any day of the week as it is like a mantra that leaves you craving more.

  • @michaelgerring2227
    @michaelgerring2227 10 років тому +49

    I've seen this video many times since it's come out. And I'm still blown away at how well he knows his instrument and the type of planning it takes to create any song that deals with harmonics and tuning, then on top of all that it sounds amazing. BLows my mind everytime.

    • @bhaskarville
      @bhaskarville 3 роки тому +1

      AND it's fretless. It's hard to do this on a fretted bass, mans totally manipulating the fretless like it's nobody's business lol

    • @taknothing4896
      @taknothing4896 2 місяці тому

      @@bhaskarville It's what's called a hyperbass - tunings can be precisely changed on the fly. It's not merely "hard" to do on anything else, it's impossible.

  • @TAOVmusic
    @TAOVmusic 14 років тому +6

    The beautiful sounds of Michael Manring.
    This is one of the most amazing pieces of Art and Music I have ever heard.
    This man is a genius and has soul beyond many could ever understand.

  • @truevideo_
    @truevideo_ 2 роки тому +4

    I can’t believe I’m still inspired by this performance after 12 years of first watching it and a few years since I last saw it. It’s music at its most precious. Thank you Mr. Manring for this gift.

    • @Mantium47
      @Mantium47 Рік тому +1

      I watch this AT LEAST yearly. It's difficult to put into words this performance

  • @travlynn08
    @travlynn08 8 років тому +52

    My wife played a recording of this while I was attempting to sleep on our couch after a long day of work. Needless to say I was not able to sleep, but I was refreshed by the intricacies and mellow tones of this Manring masterpiece.

    • @BananaManPL
      @BananaManPL 5 років тому +13

      Where can one find such a wife? :O

    • @wadecarefully
      @wadecarefully 4 роки тому +1

      The man asked a question

  • @Smartasacomputer
    @Smartasacomputer 13 років тому +6

    ....this is one of the most beautiful things i have ever heard

  • @sadowskit72
    @sadowskit72 2 роки тому +4

    Masterpiece is an understatement.

  • @BruceLee-zd9bw
    @BruceLee-zd9bw 3 роки тому +2

    I play bass myself, I have played for many years, but it is when you see people like this, that you just realise you are only a beginner.
    Michael is a masterclass.
    Total respect to a legend.
    I salute you. 🙏✊👏👏

  • @EddieG1888
    @EddieG1888 2 роки тому +1

    I've lost count of the amount of times I've come back to this video. Surely the most inventive bassist on the planet.

  • @magisterprimus7611
    @magisterprimus7611 8 років тому +12

    Michael is an Alien who brought in the Earth the real meaning of pure art.

  • @Iliketacos091
    @Iliketacos091 12 років тому +5

    2:45-2:50 gives me chills every time. This is quite possibly the most beautiful solo bass I've ever heard.

  • @streetdogarg
    @streetdogarg 2 роки тому +1

    after some time I back to this video, because here I listened sounds that I can not listen in any other site, thanks Micheal

  • @og_jakey
    @og_jakey 14 років тому +2

    A man that can strive to create great music, is truly a great man.

  • @cedricproper5256
    @cedricproper5256 9 років тому +124

    Just look at the marks on his fingerboard. The precision of Mr. Manrings' (sir) fingerings can be measured in nanometers despite changing tunings constantly through his pieces. Jaco would be moved to tears to see his prodigy come so far. Revolutionary bassist, no doubt whatsoever.

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 3 роки тому +4

      Wait was Manring Jaco’s student or something?

    • @RW-ib5hv
      @RW-ib5hv 3 роки тому +6

      @@Rael0505 For a time, yes.

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 3 роки тому +2

      @@RW-ib5hv that’s incredible

    • @MantraHerbInchSin
      @MantraHerbInchSin 2 роки тому +2

      He got trained by Jaco? Damn, that is something you can brag about

  • @zlayer4514
    @zlayer4514 6 років тому +14

    Holy shit next level music man, this guy is a master

  • @SLAPTHEBASS11
    @SLAPTHEBASS11 12 років тому +4

    This song is beautiful on so many levels... its overwhelming

  • @marcuspringle7425
    @marcuspringle7425 9 років тому +15

    Best bass harmonic I've ever heard!

  • @thereaper2110
    @thereaper2110 13 років тому +7

    its incredible how he knows exactly where to put his fingers back to when he changes the tuning, seeing as its fretless and all. outstanding musician

  • @RedHazeBand
    @RedHazeBand 9 років тому +7

    i last listened to this 4 years ago. I thought it was a beautiful performance then, and still do now.

  • @shakuhachi
    @shakuhachi 13 років тому +2

    Michael is a creative genius and a beautiful, humble person. And he is performing at my house again on May 6th.

  • @BassAsLeaders
    @BassAsLeaders 13 років тому +14

    Now that i've heard this I can finally die in peace.

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 3 роки тому +1

      Nice melee avatar, Falco is sick

  • @TOMMYBLAYNE
    @TOMMYBLAYNE 13 років тому +3

    Truly an amazing performance, i almost cried the first time i heard this.
    Just wonderful. Good job.

  • @Laras94
    @Laras94 8 років тому +19

    that melody comes from heaven i can't explain it otherwise

  • @hecbiz75
    @hecbiz75 13 років тому +2

    Manring's a phenomenon. My favorite tune of his is "On a Day of Many Angels." It is one of the most evocative pieces of music I've heard in my 36 years on this planet. And I've heard LOTS of music - jazz, latin, funk, metal, reggae, African, "new age," blues, classical....you name it.

  • @manolomatos9790
    @manolomatos9790 2 роки тому +1

    Can’t believe this was uploaded 13 years ago. Saw it then. Still blows my mind

  • @MrNeosantana
    @MrNeosantana 9 років тому +20

    I'd like to hear Michael Manring do the score for some film now, because just by this... he'd kill it.

  • @TOCS94
    @TOCS94 8 років тому +24

    Man, I miss Michael Hedges when I listen to this.

    • @andrewkeen24
      @andrewkeen24 8 років тому +1

      Me too

    • @GitesJNG
      @GitesJNG 6 років тому +2

      You can hear they met 😀

    • @HorologicRannygazoo
      @HorologicRannygazoo 6 років тому

      I'm sure Mr. Manring does, too. Their performances together are the stuff musicians dream of.

  • @piecebearer2966
    @piecebearer2966 Рік тому +1

    This liquifies the soul that it stole through my eyes

  • @Steve91694
    @Steve91694 Рік тому +1

    One of the best songs written! 🙏

  • @HouseOfSpheres
    @HouseOfSpheres 10 років тому +28

    I love the subtle use of chorus at 1:57.

    • @MrCyssiek
      @MrCyssiek 10 років тому +5

      totally, my fav part of this piece

  • @czipendejs
    @czipendejs 5 років тому +16

    the beauty of 2:03 is way beyond my imagination...

  • @MQRED011
    @MQRED011 12 років тому +2

    You know you're a true musician when you can write something that isn't fast and flashy and still keep the audience's attention for 5 minutes. The amazing thing about this isn't the technical aspect, but the composition. Very cool.

  • @GeraldLUpdyke
    @GeraldLUpdyke 14 років тому +1

    every time i see a Michael Manring video, i am blown away by his playing...but i also am blown away by how much he looks like Jon Stewart with a pony tail.

  • @RepsajSpook
    @RepsajSpook 8 років тому +7

    So totally in control. Amazing

  • @eddievedderisbedder
    @eddievedderisbedder 4 роки тому +19

    This is easily Michael Manrings "Portrait of Tracy"

  • @turnt0ff
    @turnt0ff 4 роки тому +1

    I remember when I first saw/heard this when I was like 12 or something. I still remember this performance hence why I’m back lol. Amazing music ☺️

  • @OnyxDeity
    @OnyxDeity 10 років тому +1

    So cool to see Don Ross just sitting there, respecting his fellow musician. He could've been backstage, tuning and prepping or something. But instead he just stayed on stage and watched Micheal play.

  • @chrisMUC69
    @chrisMUC69 2 роки тому +3

    harmonics at 1:58 gives me showers through my spine

  • @TheJoshBurd
    @TheJoshBurd 10 років тому +4

    This song just pulls the emotion right out of you!

  • @JoeyBullet222
    @JoeyBullet222 2 роки тому +1

    What a gifted musician. Respect 🙌

  • @swiftymcgarnagle4567
    @swiftymcgarnagle4567 5 років тому +1

    Aw man, I come back to this every once in a while to remind me why I keep playing music and the bass....
    Beauty of a composition:)

  • @kaspervandijk4454
    @kaspervandijk4454 12 років тому +11

    That harmonic at 3:56 gives me chills to the bones

    • @Acrimusic
      @Acrimusic Рік тому +1

      The sharp 7 goes hard

  • @mrjulianbala
    @mrjulianbala 8 років тому +6

    Wow wow wow, just wow

  • @ZappaFan101
    @ZappaFan101 13 років тому +2

    Damn. Manring is one of the best bassists around. How can a human mind write something like this?

  • @vinoveritas4921
    @vinoveritas4921 2 роки тому +1

    Simply wonderful.

  • @blahblahsen1142
    @blahblahsen1142 3 роки тому +14

    bass is easy...sure it is. and when you master just playing it, you can remove all the frets, memorize precise harmonics and play in 3 different tunings at the same time. ya know...to make it a little tougher. ladies and gentleman i used to make basses, and if i might say i'm a hell of a bass player. and i'm watching this like...how...the fuck...does he get any of this right? zero marks, no frets, frigging detuning all 4 strings mid-play. this man is not a bassist, he's a damn wizard and there is clearly some Elvin magic happening.

  • @LuizRM
    @LuizRM 8 років тому +3

    Some guys at Candyrat channel are more concerned about the technique, but this guy has both, technique and most important, the melody.

  • @KZFisher
    @KZFisher 13 років тому

    Selene must be beautiful - because this piece named after her is breath-takingly beautiful!

  • @buzz1167
    @buzz1167 9 років тому +1

    One word, Epic! Listened to this multiple times, its more art than just knowing how to play a Bass. I not only like the technique, the composition is also great.

  • @zumazmusic
    @zumazmusic 4 роки тому +12

    I got so into this that I almost started clapping at the end, as if I was there. 🥴😎

  • @c00ckiez
    @c00ckiez 9 років тому +5

    This guy is DEFINITELY not a human. Or at least he time-traveled from another era.

    • @coreosg4635
      @coreosg4635 4 роки тому

      This gives me doctor who vibes for some reason :D

  • @crossingzero6514
    @crossingzero6514 9 років тому +2

    first saw this two years ago keep coming back 6 stringer here could play over this all day and often do !!

  • @Artaxbozzim
    @Artaxbozzim 14 років тому

    Ok, any comment is personal, and this is also the beauty of you tube ..
    But here I am, a musician, I feel the universality of art.
    There is sound, feel, taste, musicality, intensity, pain, nostalgia and so on .... Nothing is missing.
    I'm sorry for those who still stops to unnecessary disquisitions on the instrument.
    The tool (called so for that matter) is only a means of expression is important is what comes out ..
    And what comes out here I really like.

  • @kzarandooz
    @kzarandooz 5 років тому +202

    im here from Davie504 video

    • @matmarah155
      @matmarah155 5 років тому +4

      same here!

    • @henriquematias1986
      @henriquematias1986 5 років тому +14

      me too.. and wow.. this guy is totally next level, next dimension even!

    • @jeremiahsullivan7834
      @jeremiahsullivan7834 5 років тому +13

      Best video on the davie video even if there is no SLAP

    • @osiferdan
      @osiferdan 5 років тому +2

      same

    • @dudeman5303
      @dudeman5303 5 років тому +3

      Dude Idk how I hadn't heard this guy until the Davie video. I am a huge jaco pastorius fan and michael is apparently a big deal in terms of bass playing post-jaco. Idk this is like jaco's "Portrait of tracey" but more tonally diverse and possibly more technically dificult

  • @helloitsnicko
    @helloitsnicko 14 років тому +47

    BASS IS EASIER THAN GUITAR!!!!
    Incorrect.

    • @TheV4D3R
      @TheV4D3R 4 роки тому +4

      said literally no musician ever ^^

    • @DropsOfDestruction
      @DropsOfDestruction 4 роки тому +3

      Beats, Bass, Battlestar Galactica

    • @theonlybass8947
      @theonlybass8947 3 роки тому +1

      The perception of most casual music enthusiasts/musicians is skewed toward the belief that bass is easy because their context is modern rock/pop music, where the bass serves a very important but basic barebones role. Nobody who wants to pick up bass so they can play Green Day covers in their buddy's garage is going to have heard of or even necessarily want to listen to Michael Manring. Turning the bass into a solo instrument the way he does is like making a full course dinner for 8 people with nothing but a spoon.

  • @kyokujirou2112
    @kyokujirou2112 13 років тому +1

    It's so so beautiful...I respect him from bottom of my heart.

    • @JM-yk6eh
      @JM-yk6eh 4 роки тому

      Look the video again my friend ;) I also respect him a lot for that

  • @JazzBass7
    @JazzBass7 14 років тому

    No matter what comment comes about...I wish I could play this!

  • @tylerjacobson8012
    @tylerjacobson8012 8 років тому +5

    Him an jaco are the masters of harmonics. I'm a huge jaco guy for his groove prowess but Manring has him ambiance and feel.

  • @Flemmingdoerken
    @Flemmingdoerken 13 років тому +19

    @thisiswebbmaster There is actually an answer to that :) These are the tunings for the song:
    Bb F Bb F
    Ab Eb Bb F
    Gb Eb Bb Gb
    Ab F Bb F
    Gb Eb Bb F
    Ab Eb Ab Eb
    Gb Eb Ab Eb

  • @vhyles
    @vhyles 5 років тому

    It's as if this otherworldly melody is coming from another planet, or another dimension. I've never heard anything remotely close to this. I have no words to describe these sublime, ethereal sounds

  • @Runtav4o
    @Runtav4o 13 років тому

    Wonderful... Got no words to describe such as beautiiful music and original idea

  • @tupatutupatu
    @tupatutupatu 11 років тому +4

    4:33 Don Ross starts trying that in his guitar, he cant belive it.

  • @ismollcheeken
    @ismollcheeken 5 років тому +5

    NO SLAPP!!! DAT'S STRAIGHT UP ILLEGAL!!!
    But very nice sounding bass though, found you from davie's latest video ^_^ Keep it up dude ^_^
    OheMGee!!!

    • @watchingsometube
      @watchingsometube 5 років тому +2

      I know you just came here from Davie504. Go back if you want SLAPP, but do SLAPP like on this video NOW.

    • @TiltCntrlz
      @TiltCntrlz 5 років тому

      You should actually check out more videos from Michael Manring. It's a shame Davie reacted to a video without Slap, but Michael Manring can definitely slap 10x better than Davie504... At LEAST. Manring just does everything though, so this was a bad song to send him seeing as it has no slap. :( Try Helios?

  • @BobWilliam
    @BobWilliam 13 років тому

    Watching Manring gives me the shivers... he's out of this world.

  • @mathiaslindhardtgreve2076
    @mathiaslindhardtgreve2076 12 років тому

    I think this might be the most beautiful performance I have ever seen/heard.. Not just bass-wise.. This particular video takes a humongous dump on ANY other video, of ANYONE else, playing ANY other piece, on ANY instrument. God damn..

  • @adamsubtract81
    @adamsubtract81 12 років тому +4

    I think he plays more harmonies than actual notes lol - genius

  • @kkkthebassist
    @kkkthebassist 7 років тому +7

    ......tabs?

  • @Pedroanf94
    @Pedroanf94 13 років тому

    I felt in a zen mode when i listen this song... its so... peacefull...

  • @Nazhror
    @Nazhror 12 років тому

    This is the most wonderful thing I've ever heard. I think this is the point when man and instrument become one.

  • @t0sjo
    @t0sjo 10 років тому +7

    Just imagine how this would've sound if the bass wasn't perfectly tuned...
    And that kids, is why you always tune your guitar/bass!

  • @Vectoreal
    @Vectoreal 9 років тому +37

    It's very interesting watching one man tuning his bass for 5 minutes =/

    • @TheAlpha800
      @TheAlpha800 9 років тому +1

      Victor Shutov lol this is how he tunes by ear

    • @okidot
      @okidot 9 років тому +17

      Victor Shutov I genuinely feel sorry for you if the musicality of this track has bypassed your attention....

    •  9 років тому +3

      Victor Shutov ... While it is wild seeing him on his hyperbass, I rarely watch now... The sound is so great it doesnt need your eyes.

    • @supravista
      @supravista 9 років тому

      Mike Harkins Me too, I actually don't like watching him. He looks cheesier than the way it sounds.

    • @michaelciancetta6397
      @michaelciancetta6397 8 років тому +1

      +supravista he he true! and the funny thing is that he's playing really easy melodies that you could easily play without all that struggling ;) and where is the composition in the end?

  • @HaythemMusic
    @HaythemMusic 11 років тому

    Just had my ears melted and spread on toast.

  • @ribpaie
    @ribpaie 5 років тому

    Follow him during 1985 France amazing talent Thanks for posting

  • @marcschelz
    @marcschelz 10 років тому +3

    Insanity that is.

  • @HandlanMon
    @HandlanMon 12 років тому

    This guy played this at my school once. Best musical performance I have ever seen.

  • @JW-zg4lr
    @JW-zg4lr 2 роки тому +1

    Bravo Maestro! Greetings from Chile

  • @TheMourningBlade
    @TheMourningBlade 13 років тому

    Not a single time i've lisetened till the end. Every time i stuck somewhere. 'Gotta listen to this part again' and so on, so on...

  • @KongoXIIV
    @KongoXIIV 13 років тому

    That's it I gave in...my diaphragm painfully spasmed throughout this song until finally I relaxed and cried... :-( Damn...a lot of emotion just got released...but much needed.
    Guess that's the power of music!

  • @Jouwl
    @Jouwl 14 років тому

    This is unbelievable! Re-tuning like that flawlessly without losing the beat... he's probably an alien.

  • @KiffeKun
    @KiffeKun 13 років тому +1

    Candyrat delivers, yet again!!
    Never seen anyone play the bass that way before, most interesting indeed. This is a clear example of why I enjoy watching and listening to the musicians of Candyrat Records :)

  • @jerseyanimall
    @jerseyanimall 14 років тому

    One of the most amazing and innovative bass players to date. I have seen him live twice and he is one of the best ever.

  • @taliayaya
    @taliayaya 13 років тому +1

    4:00-4:10 there is such a scream, amazing one, this is so great, can't stop listening to it. realy.
    it has that king of magic, get's into your brain, clean all your feelings out of you.
    that is AMAZING!
    THANK YOU!

  • @chuckminzenberger7590
    @chuckminzenberger7590 Рік тому

    hypnotic, beautiful sound

  • @Soaringflat
    @Soaringflat 10 років тому

    Never forget Michael Hedges - he was the root of the root and the bud of the bud. Thank all that is holy that i saw him so many times

  • @phunkymonk131
    @phunkymonk131 13 років тому +1

    man, judging by this song i'd have to say that whoever selene is, she must be beautiful.