Upgrading from a 12pro to the 15pro today with the hope that everything you're saying here and that I've been thinking is true and allows me to work with the iPhone exclusively on some projects. When I'm traveling and walking around all day making work is a literal pain. My main reasons for the upgrade are having less weight on my back and more freedom overall. Well spoken video. Cheers.
So much of this went right over my head but i kept watching cos your voice was so calming and the way the video was put together was just mint. Awesome effort!
My iPhone 15 Pro is on its way. From what I've seen from the iPhone 15 Pro with ProRes Log, I think the iPhone can be used as a b-cam for wide shots where depth of field isn't an issue. Plus, the fact that sharpening is not a factor with ProRes Log. I'm looking forward to see what I can do with it. I think it will be a viable filmmaking tool. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Check out my test footage here: ua-cam.com/video/Lf8EkEFawh0/v-deo.html It can absolutely be used as a b-cam in the scenario you describe. Nobody would ever know!
As a filmaker myself I really enjoyed my Iphone 7 plus, then 11 now. 15 pro soon! Can’t wait to take my productions to a totally different level. 👍🏾 I’m a +4 iphone user. Already Waiting for 19 😁✌🏾
Really loved this video, very well thought out and presented, is there anywhere where we can see the short film you helped shoot, looks amazing based off the footage in this video.
iphone needs a "pro/manual mode" which could be activated in camera settings, full exposure control. this way the camera default would act as normal but for creative "pro workflow" users it would just to enable the setting and everything would work as any other pro photo or cinema camera.
Exactly. Unfortunately I’m not sure if they’ll ever give that to us. But luckily the BlackMagic camera app offers all of this functionality and so far it’s been great!
I’ve now shot a good bit of ProRes Log on the 15 Max. If you know how to work it in post, it is amazing. Mobile video has NO business looking that good. 👌
Like your shadow in the frame of one of your shots of the old car and a young woman. "As a filmmaker..try another angle or time of day, better car with AC."
@@EvanSchneider Subscribed. Picked up a 15 Pro yesterday mainly for its video recording capabilities. I have a tiny channel and use DaVinci Resolve Studio and am interested in how to get the best results; grading, Color Space transform settings etc. using the app with my phone and Resolve.
Wow this was a really fantastic overview of what actually trying to shoot an entire short film on iPhone looks like in the real world! Thanks for that. The overheating in hot weather is a real issue I hope some team of engineers can figure out a way out of in the coming years; I understand it’s the natural processes and limitations of thermodynamics at the current moment, but perhaps we’ll discover a new method of effective heat dissipation or CPU’s will become so efficient, there will be a negligible amount of lost energy of heat. Regardless, you did a fantastic job explaining the ins and outs and I think I do want a 15 Pro if for nothing else the ability to jump up to 60fps and try out these new ‘Spatial Videos’!
One of the best post regarding Iphone filmmaking! Lots of info here... hope you don't mind, but a I have a few questions... 1- why is the LOG of filmic Pro difficult to work with in post...? (it breaks during color correction...?) 2- The "natural" profile of filmic Pro.. is the only one that allows access to manual exposure...? & 3-Not being able to to turn off "tone mapping" it is a an issue within Filmic pro...? and if so wouldn't the fact that you can use ND's help...? (because you mentioned that it makes it difficult when using ND's...) Sorry about all these questions... but I find it really fascinating that you are the only one that dissected all these important point when using an Iphone for filming...! 👏 Thank you! :) cheers!
Looks really nice! As long as they'll support ProRes in Apple Log and maybe even the SSD recording, I'm hoping it will be my go-to. Especially with its integration into Resolve. The UI looks much nicer than Filmic Pro in my opinion.
Thanks Chaz! Appreciate it. Stoked for the BlackMagic Camera app. Couldn't have been better timing. As long as it supports Apple Log and external SSD's, I'm all in over Filmic Pro. The UI looks great too.
Hi Evan, I don't know if you have one ... but what would be really nice is a video that shows all the different rigs, and equipment set-ups you used for filming with the iPhone in this video together with the links. Thanks
I’m guessing this video was created before the 9/15 Blackmagic Design event where they announced their iPhone app, which is amazing and at no charge. I can’t wait to see what you’ll do with it. Great video by the way, I’ll keep some notes about using the 14 Pro.
On the Blackmagic camera app you can also shoot 60 fps 4K ProRes log INTERNALLY. Assuming you have enough capacity of course 😅 But can also shoot in smaller size ProRes such as LT, or even h.265, all internal and all at 4K 60fp log. Pretty great that Apple didn’t block this! (Yet)
As creator of one of the most viewed videos on Blackmagic's Camera app for IOS, could you do a video explaining how to focus a video shot in log format? From what I have been able to tell the focus assist tools/lines don't work in log mode even when the display lut option is on. Just by looking at the screen while filming in log mode it's really hard to tell what parts of the scene are in focus. I generally shoot with the 24mm iPhone 15 main lens.
I mostly use autofocus when using the BM Camera app. I'd recommend loading in a viewing LUT so that you're looking at a display referred image while recording. The app gives you the option to either preview the LUT or burn it in, make sure you're only previewing it. My Apple Log LUTs work perfectly inside the app for previewing and will ensure a proper exposure as they are calibrated to match the middle grey encoding of Apple Log to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4.
I’ve been praying since the release of the 14 to see someone make a short film but the only people who did have been apple themselves.. no creator made any short film.. at least that I’ve found. On this video I see you shooting on the 14 but I don’t see that video on your channel. Hopefully with the 15 you’ll make even a 2 minute short film because the 15 is amazing
Right now the short film we shot on the 14 Pro is going through festival submissions, we will probably release the full film online sometime soon and I’ll be updating my subscribers when we do. And definitely want to shoot a short on the 15 Pro.
Great video. Just upgraded to the iPhone 15 Pro and wondered what was the slider and pistol grip you were using at 2:05 and who makes it? Thanks for all of the great tips!
The log footage is definitely a game changer however the native camera app does not allow you to shoot pro. They need to allow the ability to shoot prores log AND lock shutter speeds/iso so that we can shoot with a 180 degree shutter angle.
BlackMagic Camera app gives you this ability and it’s free. I’ve been enjoying it so far. Has a few bugs but I’m sure they’ll be smoothed out. The biggest challenge of shooting at 180 degree shutter though is that you almost always need some sort of ND, since you can’t control aperture on the iPhone. That’s why I don’t think Apple will give us full manual exposure controls for ProRes Log.
Thank you! The short film hasn't been released yet, but I will be keeping my subscribers updated and also uploading a dedicated BTS video sometime soon.
I haven’t tested this yet. But I’ve seen promising things from other people plugging in usb-c hubs and everything works. So hopefully this will be possible!
@@EvanSchneider was about to buy the a6700 and now wondering for an enthusiast hoping to make good looking videos for YT that this is a better solution ?
Wow, that's for sure a very intersting video , thanks for havi,g given us the opportunity to think and watch. May I ask you what is the wood handle that looks so practical on the moment "cage". it seems that only one is necessary that make things lighter and easier to handle. Thanks for your attention. Warm hello from Parma.
Thanks so much, for the answer. I've been on their website but can't figure out which ione i is exactly. Unless if the handle is coupled with the horizontal piece connected to you moment ..A description of your setup would be extremely usefull for your followers. Thanks a lot@@EvanSchneider
I have a friend who is fully into video biz has R6 and Z9 camera some expensive lens when he has some customer that complains that he charges too much for a video my budddy say" if you cant pay a profesional service with top notch gear then look for a cheap iphone video maker.
Have y’all tried Gaming fans for the iPhone? Y’all will need a different mic because when gaming I need my headphones because my teammates hate the sound of a plane when I use my phone mic 😂 but for y’all if you can find I way to record without the fan sound trust me the gaming fan will keep y’all phone cold no overheating.
Thanks for watching! Make sure you subscribe so you don't miss my test footage and in depth testing of the new iPhone.
At the 2:28 mark I see your slate. I wanted to know where did you get that from. I’ve been looking for a digital low cost option. Thanks
i subscribe to this channel because of this video sir, thank you
That was absolutely enjoyable to watch. Less of a “product review” and more of a from the heart and eye of a filmmaker.
Upgrading from a 12pro to the 15pro today with the hope that everything you're saying here and that I've been thinking is true and allows me to work with the iPhone exclusively on some projects. When I'm traveling and walking around all day making work is a literal pain. My main reasons for the upgrade are having less weight on my back and more freedom overall. Well spoken video. Cheers.
Thanks so much. I got mine today and it has not disappointed! Checks a ton of boxes.
Thanks for posting...
So much of this went right over my head but i kept watching cos your voice was so calming and the way the video was put together was just mint. Awesome effort!
Thanks so much
This is an excellent and enjoyable video to watch mate. Too stuff.
Thanks!
Pumped to watch your short!
Thanks man! I'll let you know when we release it!
My iPhone 15 Pro is on its way. From what I've seen from the iPhone 15 Pro with ProRes Log, I think the iPhone can be used as a b-cam for wide shots where depth of field isn't an issue. Plus, the fact that sharpening is not a factor with ProRes Log. I'm looking forward to see what I can do with it. I think it will be a viable filmmaking tool. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Check out my test footage here: ua-cam.com/video/Lf8EkEFawh0/v-deo.html
It can absolutely be used as a b-cam in the scenario you describe. Nobody would ever know!
As a filmaker myself I really enjoyed my Iphone 7 plus, then 11 now. 15 pro soon! Can’t wait to take my productions to a totally different level. 👍🏾 I’m a +4 iphone user. Already Waiting for 19 😁✌🏾
Your video itself looks like a Netflix documentary. Damn 👌🏻
I appreciate it!
Black Magic pro app my dude, I'm sure they'll get log and record to SSD in the next update, after that its RIP Filmic pro
I'm stoked to try it out! It looks very promising. Goodbye Filmic Pro ✌
The image coming out of that app also looks better than stock, I think the app adds some of that BM color science to it @@EvanSchneider
iPhone 15 Pro Max camera now is absolutely awesome!🔥🤧
Can't wait to test it out for myself!
That was they said about 14PM and video on a beach at highes bitrate on filmic was too noisy and artifacts shown in a 42" monitor.
this was so well put together 🙌🏻
Thank you man!
Really loved this video, very well thought out and presented, is there anywhere where we can see the short film you helped shoot, looks amazing based off the footage in this video.
Thanks! The film hasn't been released online yet, but I'll be keeping my subscribers updated.
i subscribe to this channel because of this video sir, thank you
Great video bro!
Thank you bro
iphone needs a "pro/manual mode" which could be activated in camera settings, full exposure control. this way the camera default would act as normal but for creative "pro workflow" users it would just to enable the setting and everything would work as any other pro photo or cinema camera.
Exactly. Unfortunately I’m not sure if they’ll ever give that to us. But luckily the BlackMagic camera app offers all of this functionality and so far it’s been great!
Is 15 pro great for filmmaking or would need the pro max?
were can i see te actual movie?
I’ve now shot a good bit of ProRes Log on the 15 Max. If you know how to work it in post, it is amazing. Mobile video has NO business looking that good. 👌
It’s actually insane
Apple really should enable full manual control on the Pro models. You know, something that Pro’s use!!
We have the Blackmagic Camera app now which takes care of a lot of these issues
Like your shadow in the frame of one of your shots of the old car and a young woman. "As a filmmaker..try another angle or time of day, better car with AC."
All the footage in this video was behind the scenes, not from the actual film
Looking forward to your review of the new Blackmagic Camera App. Seems like it was designed especially for the 15 pro
I’ve been playing with it and taking notes for a video, so check back soon for that.
Definitely, I’ll be sharing my thoughts and tips in the near future.
@@EvanSchneider Subscribed. Picked up a 15 Pro yesterday mainly for its video recording capabilities. I have a tiny channel and use DaVinci Resolve Studio and am interested in how to get the best results; grading, Color Space transform settings etc. using the app with my phone and Resolve.
This was so valuable, Evan - thank you. Happy new sub from Australia. 👍🦘
Wow this was a really fantastic overview of what actually trying to shoot an entire short film on iPhone looks like in the real world! Thanks for that. The overheating in hot weather is a real issue I hope some team of engineers can figure out a way out of in the coming years; I understand it’s the natural processes and limitations of thermodynamics at the current moment, but perhaps we’ll discover a new method of effective heat dissipation or CPU’s will become so efficient, there will be a negligible amount of lost energy of heat. Regardless, you did a fantastic job explaining the ins and outs and I think I do want a 15 Pro if for nothing else the ability to jump up to 60fps and try out these new ‘Spatial Videos’!
Definitely, or I could attach a gaming cooler to the phone haha
very nice video man . thnx to share !
You needed Black Magic Camera app!
Made this before the app was released. It fulfilled all of my needs and more!
One of the best post regarding Iphone filmmaking! Lots of info here... hope you don't mind, but a I have a few questions... 1- why is the LOG of filmic Pro difficult to work with in post...? (it breaks during color correction...?) 2- The "natural" profile of filmic Pro.. is the only one that allows access to manual exposure...? & 3-Not being able to to turn off "tone mapping" it is a an issue within Filmic pro...? and if so wouldn't the fact that you can use ND's help...? (because you mentioned that it makes it difficult when using ND's...) Sorry about all these questions... but I find it really fascinating that you are the only one that dissected all these important point when using an Iphone for filming...! 👏 Thank you! :) cheers!
Great video Evan! I’m a big fan!
Thanks so much!
How do you feel about the new blackmagic camera app for iPhone?
Looks really nice! As long as they'll support ProRes in Apple Log and maybe even the SSD recording, I'm hoping it will be my go-to. Especially with its integration into Resolve. The UI looks much nicer than Filmic Pro in my opinion.
Amazing feedback and enjoyable watch, 500th like!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sick Evan! Loved this!!! You mentioned Filmic Pro, what are your thoughts on BlackMagics new camera App?
Thanks Chaz! Appreciate it. Stoked for the BlackMagic Camera app. Couldn't have been better timing. As long as it supports Apple Log and external SSD's, I'm all in over Filmic Pro. The UI looks great too.
Hi Evan, I don't know if you have one ... but what would be really nice is a video that shows all the different rigs, and equipment set-ups you used for filming with the iPhone in this video together with the links. Thanks
I'll keep it in mind for a future video
I’m guessing this video was created before the 9/15 Blackmagic Design event where they announced their iPhone app, which is amazing and at no charge. I can’t wait to see what you’ll do with it. Great video by the way, I’ll keep some notes about using the 14 Pro.
Thanks for the comment. It was made before their announcement. I can confirm now though, you can shoot in Apple Log in the BlackMagic Camera app!
On the Blackmagic camera app you can also shoot 60 fps 4K ProRes log INTERNALLY.
Assuming you have enough capacity of course 😅
But can also shoot in smaller size ProRes such as LT, or even h.265, all internal and all at 4K 60fp log. Pretty great that Apple didn’t block this! (Yet)
I would love to see a video from you about BlackMagic in context of this one.
As creator of one of the most viewed videos on Blackmagic's Camera app for IOS, could you do a video explaining how to focus a video shot in log format? From what I have been able to tell the focus assist tools/lines don't work in log mode even when the display lut option is on. Just by looking at the screen while filming in log mode it's really hard to tell what parts of the scene are in focus. I generally shoot with the 24mm iPhone 15 main lens.
I mostly use autofocus when using the BM Camera app. I'd recommend loading in a viewing LUT so that you're looking at a display referred image while recording. The app gives you the option to either preview the LUT or burn it in, make sure you're only previewing it. My Apple Log LUTs work perfectly inside the app for previewing and will ensure a proper exposure as they are calibrated to match the middle grey encoding of Apple Log to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4.
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
No problem 👍
Great video man !!! 👍🔥
Thanks!
I’ve been praying since the release of the 14 to see someone make a short film but the only people who did have been apple themselves.. no creator made any short film.. at least that I’ve found. On this video I see you shooting on the 14 but I don’t see that video on your channel. Hopefully with the 15 you’ll make even a 2 minute short film because the 15 is amazing
Right now the short film we shot on the 14 Pro is going through festival submissions, we will probably release the full film online sometime soon and I’ll be updating my subscribers when we do. And definitely want to shoot a short on the 15 Pro.
Where can I watch that Joshua Tree film?
It actually hasn't been publicly released yet, it's been going through some festival submissions!
Great video. Just upgraded to the iPhone 15 Pro and wondered what was the slider and pistol grip you were using at 2:05 and who makes it? Thanks for all of the great tips!
Hey, the slider is the Rhino Rov Pro and the grip is actually a gimbal, it's the Freefly Movi Cinema Robot stabilizer.
At 3:19 - did you say Lightning Port as the reason you couldn't download footage from an iPhone 15???
I was referring to the iPhone 14 Pro in that part, sorry if it wasn’t clear.
@EvanSchneider Could very well be my misunderstanding. Thanks for replying!
Maybe they should implement different settings options and offer a full manual option for the true pro users.
I would love it if the pro settings would pop up when switching into ProRes Log mode. Manual exposure controls and a histogram would be great.
BM Camera solves like 90% of your requests, I think
I'm hoping so! Looking forward to testing it on the 15 Pro. Will probably share my results here as well.
And the really great thing about the iPhone is, you can even make phone calls 😊
haha yes, but hopefully nobody calls you while you're filming 😬
The log footage is definitely a game changer however the native camera app does not allow you to shoot pro. They need to allow the ability to shoot prores log AND lock shutter speeds/iso so that we can shoot with a 180 degree shutter angle.
BlackMagic Camera app gives you this ability and it’s free. I’ve been enjoying it so far. Has a few bugs but I’m sure they’ll be smoothed out.
The biggest challenge of shooting at 180 degree shutter though is that you almost always need some sort of ND, since you can’t control aperture on the iPhone.
That’s why I don’t think Apple will give us full manual exposure controls for ProRes Log.
Nice! That’s probably the least stressed crew I’ve ever seen in my life lol
When you make cool things with your friends it’s always a good time 😎
Great video cheers
Thank you!
Very nice video! Do you maybe have the link to your finished video that you shot with the Iphone for your project?
Thank you! The short film hasn't been released yet, but I will be keeping my subscribers updated and also uploading a dedicated BTS video sometime soon.
Why didn’t you use Black magic app on the iPhone ?
This video was released before the app came out. That’s what I use almost exclusively now.
Did you use the T-Series or M-Series anamorphic lens from moment? Cant wait for the footage
We shot this short film before those lenses were made. But I will be testing them in the near future with the 15 Pro.
Great Video: Super recap. Thanks Europe for forcing Apple to innovate with USB C: No usb c, no fast Video process
Appreciate it! And yes, thank you Europe! haha
Can you use an external mic, external SSD and charging function with split cable? that would be interesting. if not everything seem to be useless
I haven’t tested this yet. But I’ve seen promising things from other people plugging in usb-c hubs and everything works. So hopefully this will be possible!
Did you get one? I’d love to see what you do with it. Subbed. Awesome video
Yup got my 15 Pro Max yesterday. Already shot a bunch of tests, playing with BlackMagic camera app and working on Apple Log LUTs. Will share soon.
Where I can see this footage?
The film hasn't been released online yet, but I'll be updating my subscribers when it is!
You said lightning usb 2. It’s usb c now
I was referring to the old spec. Lightning had usb 2.0 speeds.
Which phone do you recommend pro max or pro?
Pro Max this time!
Hope to see you take the iPhone 15 and use log and black magic app to create.
I definitely will. Sharing more soon.
@@EvanSchneider was about to buy the a6700 and now wondering for an enthusiast hoping to make good looking videos for YT that this is a better solution ?
8:58 Was the Blackmagic camera app out when you made this video ?
It wasn’t yet. That app fulfilled a lot of my needs!
About F-ing time Apple stepped up and supported external drives in a meaningful way.
Is it possible to shoot log footage on iPhone 14 pro?
No, it's exclusive to iPhone 15 Pro/Max
Hi, Does iPhone 15pro has 3xzooming in cinematic mode ??
No, only 1x and 2x. I don’t use cinematic mode though.
Great video
Thank you
Wow, that's for sure a very intersting video , thanks for havi,g given us the opportunity to think and watch. May I ask you what is the wood handle that looks so practical on the moment "cage". it seems that only one is necessary that make things lighter and easier to handle. Thanks for your attention. Warm hello from Parma.
Thanks for watching. The top handle is made by Wooden Camera. One of my favorite pieces of the kit.
Thanks so much, for the answer. I've been on their website but can't figure out which ione i is exactly. Unless if the handle is coupled with the horizontal piece connected to you moment ..A description of your setup would be extremely usefull for your followers. Thanks a lot@@EvanSchneider
Shame that port isn't thunderbolt 4 speed, ie 4x faster than USB 3.2
True, but I'll take this anyway and I'm very happy about it!
Can you post the cage info
where is the film bro? 🙂
Hasn’t been released online yet! We’re submitting it to festivals right now.
Where did you get the digital film slate cool you guys did a short film
It's a Denecke TS-C
well said
Thank you!
Where can we see the short film?
This
you said usb 2.0 would take to long to transfer but the iphone 15 pro is usb 3 tho?
I was referring to the 14 Pro for the slow transfer speeds. Yes, the 15 Pro solves this issue with the USB-C port.
@@EvanSchneider oh word, love
If you are a professional Filmmaker using an iPhone as your primary camera, chances are you are not really a professional Filmmaker.
I don’t recall saying that the iPhone was my primary camera.
I have a friend who is fully into video biz has R6 and Z9 camera some expensive lens when he has some customer that complains that he charges too much for a video my budddy say" if you cant pay a profesional service with top notch gear then look for a cheap iphone video maker.
It seems to me that if a videographer loves apple he will say the quality is awesome even if its not true.
I do love me some Apple, but in this case the video quality is no joke and unmatched by any other phone on the market.
I guess you never heard of the S23 Ultra? In my professial experience the better choice.
It may have a great camera, but the recording formats are lacking. No ProRes and no log = no go for me at this point
First!
Yoooooo!
That's why you shoot on an advanced flagship android.
Unfortunately while the cameras may be good on flagship Androids, the recording codecs and color encoding profiles are not.
Have y’all tried Gaming fans for the iPhone? Y’all will need a different mic because when gaming I need my headphones because my teammates hate the sound of a plane when I use my phone mic 😂 but for y’all if you can find I way to record without the fan sound trust me the gaming fan will keep y’all phone cold no overheating.
Great idea. After we finished the short film, we realized we could have just rubber banded an ice pack to the back of the phone too haha
Apple is misleading about the cameras on 15 pro. and this sound like a paid cormercial
I think they've done an incredible job on this one. And no, this was in no way sponsored and I have no relationship with Apple.
Stating opinions without making a point brings us nowhere. Where did Apple mislead us and why assuming this is like a commercial ?
"Filmmakers" and "iPhone" should not be used in the same sentence
That’s your opinion, but some of us filmmakers enjoy pushing the boundaries and seeing how far we can get.
Two Words: SHOOT... ANDROID... 😮
One word: ProRes
i am farting for you