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In my opinion the most no-nonsense, doable, diy septic video on youtube, and I've watched hours of clips in search of a solution for my current leech field situation. Thank you so much for posting.
You’re welcome and thank you for the kind words.
Dude. I’m in the same situation. Need to redo my leach field. What have you done so far? Anything?
Let me know. It would be nice to hear your experience.
@@earthling2007 I'm in NY, went through 3 companies so far, I have to have a soil test done with the dept of health present and they have to sign off stating that the soil is suitable. It's a major pain in the ass. I'm still waiting for them to come through. Turns out I only had one run (essentially one leech pipe) and one distribution box. I've been in this home for 8yrs, didn't know that was the case until it started failing. So far quotes for a 175ft -225ft run of leech fields has ranged from $9g to $14g. I'll keep you posted, may even upload a video.
@@robr471 I may do a clandestine install based on an engineers design.
I’ll spend the $550 for a percolation test and design.
@@earthling2007 i would absolutely do that but fear issue with having plans on file with the health Dept and them preventing me selling my place in the future. You've inspired me, fuck it, screw the man.
Great Video!!! I am not a "Septic Tank" and or "Lateral Line" installer by profession. However I have lived in the country, on a farm, all of my life. I am *not an expert* but, the Absorption System I have here, was installed in 1965. It is now in bad shape, and needs to be redone. But I will say this, no one will believe it probably, but I will say it anyway. "A Septic System, *IF* it is installed "correctly" and is located with the "advantages" it needs, like being only slightly sloping, and a soil that "percs" and the system is not "abused" is the most trouble free thing you will ever own. This one here or our property, I helped install as a kid, I am 72 NOW. Let me tell you, we almost forgot we even had it. Except, early on, the old Concrete Tiles were used to make Lateral Lines. They did not last, they never did. They were replaced in the early, very early 1970's with PVC lines. After that, it was trouble free for decades. Finally replaced the Terra Cotta Tiles that the Burlap "seals" that fed the tanks some years back. Replaced that with PVC, which is MUCH Superior. This may sound unbelievable to some people, but it is true. We were lucky to just be at the right Place with the soil and lay out etc.
This is a great video, to me you nailed it ( in my opinion anyway ), on the "VARIBLES" and the Charges you may face. Until NOW, we almost forgot we had it, almost NEVER PUMPED IT and so on. But, the VARIABLES this man pointed out is the "problem" or "savior" depending on what you have. In my area (Texas) the type of soil and SIZE or the "lot" makes a huge difference. In the area where I live, very close to our location the SOIL CHANGES ABRUPTLY. We are on what is left of our Farm. So, we could make the "Lateral Lines" or "Drain Field" as big as we needed to make it work. If you are on a smaller lot in today's world, the Regulatory Entity and THEIR Regulations on "Perc-ing" is what will kill you. Also how many people USING THE SYSTEM. They just might MAKE the Aerobic MANDATORY. I am also a Real Estate Broker, inactive at the moment, but this is something you need to check out BEFFORE YOU BUY YOUR Lot or Home etc. But where I live, the SIZE of the drain field, is the deciding factor on the Drain Field. If the soil absorbs the Affluent too quickly, you can EXPAND the Drain Field. This is important to know, as it MIGHT (but not always) save you from installing a Damned Aerobic System. I hate those things, they are a FOREVER COST just like the man said. If you THOROUGHLY check this out, you might save THOUSANDS of Bucks'.
Thank you for sharing.
If you do black and grey water separation, use anaerobic digester on the settled black water solids, digestate and grey water settled and into a leach field. Also planting shallow root high water plants next to the leach pipe is good at controlling water, in third world counties they use banana trees.
We have a partial greywater system apart from this.
This was very interesting, a styro peanut-lined drainfield. Someone was definitely thinking out of the box with that invention. Thanks.
It is working great so far.
Tree roots have destroyed a lot of old systems as well. Hope that your new system improvements fix it and give you many years. Good information and video. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you. Luckily it was not the roots for us....we just had so many other issues.
SAME, we have a huge tree in our backyard
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about replacing my parents' leach field and your insight was helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I was told 7000-8000 in south ga. Thinking about doing this myself. Watching videos like yours to learn so I can do it myself.
That is actually a good price relatively. I am sure you can do it yourself though.
If your soil perks well enough for a conventional system definitely do that. Pump systems are maintenance nightmares. I’m a 35 year plumber by the way.
Absolutely! I will take a passive system over something that can mechanically fail any day.
What really matters is ( how close does the county watch you ). No permit for me 😆
Yes excellent straight forward. I’ve never seen these pellet tubes before. Looks like a great idea. Had quotes for $25 000-30 000 (CAD) for complete system for the “mound type” with pump. Crazy! My soil conditions are normal and would support a conventional gravity system.
I hope that you are able to do a conventional system. The others are just way too expensive.
My county wanted to upsell me too... I went over their head a installed a gravity system like My land should support
@@2002-n8s watch who takes the county inspectors to a free lunch by the contractor that pads pockets. It happens all day long so you were smart going over inspections in the field. Most Office Supervisors never know what their field inspector is doing especially when contractors are feeding and paddling the pockets. Trust me I was a civil service inspector and if your bent the contractor will shower you with goodies. In our city one inspector was imprisoned for bribes.
Why did they tell you that you needed a mound system ?How do you know what type of sols you have ?
I'm definitely going to do it myself because I'm not paying somebody $3,000 for 6 hours worth of labor. That's ridiculous
Thanks for both of these videos and all the info!
Our pleasure!
And also County in North Carolina septic system company would normally go to the city or county and get whatever permits are needed
I live in NC as well and our leach field is backing up since we believe it collapsed. They quoted ya 20k. Or septic tank is fine and so is the dbox. Are you saying the health department would provide permits if we decided to do this ourselves??
Can't say enough good about this video!! Too cool!! Thank you
Thank you
Thank you for your educational and helpful video.
You're welcome.
I worked for a guy nd a lady had her tank pumped a month later it needed pumped again the guy that pumped the tank said it was a drain field failure and would need a whole new drain field she called my boss the system was 10 years old and shouldn't have done that there was 3 sixty foot runs we dug for a hour and on the first turn the elbow was collapsed from the trencher putting in irrigation pipes so the other two lines had never even been used since new and the first line took ten years to saturate she was very happy so dont believe some guy who's only job it is is to pump shit he doesn't know till you look
In NC we have to lay the ez flow flat with white side up and the ditch is 3ft wide
Interesting difference. Every state and jurisdiction is different.
I have this exact issue rn. Trying to fix it with 0 budget really. We tried dr.Pooper tablets yesterday and no success yet. Pretty sure nothing is making it out of the tank to the drain line, let alone all the way to the leech line
Good video! Getting this done today in a few hours. I have to know if the dog had a job or was he supervising😄
Thank you. The dog is always running around supervising....lol.
Well put.
Thanks
This is AWESOME!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!! Could you tell us who to get the peanut drainpipe from???
Your welcome. We got ours at the local septic supply company.
Great video! Quick question, though. How did you dispose of the old drain lines? Are there hazmat fees involved with that or anything? Thanks!
Thank you. No fees here. The old lines are still in the ground. New lines are routed in a different area.
I wonder how long those peanuts last compared to a regular perforated pipe with gravel?
Not sure but they were not your average styrofoam peanut. They were a much more dense material. Very tough.
@@CountryLivingExperience - Can you / your installer explain more about why these peanuts are not vulnerable? I imagine them squishing together, softened by water and compacted by weight.
@@JonathonNeville They are not your normal peanuts. They are a high density closed cell foam. They won't be softened by water at all. As for compaction, I am sure there will be some but gravel also settles and "compacts".
Some foam has more than a 60 psi rating and is used for structural work. In some applications, they actually put slab, footing, and build an entire house on top of structural foam. They even build highways on top of layers of structural foam because it has higher compression strength than gravel and soil.
So those peanuts, if the septic tank is well maintained may actually last longer than gravel also because they have a smooth surface and are less prone to aggregate dirt and sand.
Gracias por su excelente información
De nada
Good Job, Every thing you said is true!
Thank you
We put in one of these systems 7yrs ago. NEVER AGAIN!!! Over time the peanuts condense into a hard mooshed up mash. Ours only lasted 7yrs. Now we have to spend almost 4k to put in a new leach field. When the contractors came out to see what was going on they said they take these up all the time because they just don't last.
Interesting. I will check on mine. Everything is flowing fine as this point.
@@CountryLivingExperience ya, ours did great for years. Until about a month ago.
Nice job man subscribed and liked
Thank you and welcome to the channel.
Let me tell you as a pro on installing septic systems for 40 years NEVER would i do one of these. You will replace this way before its time . Best of luck
Thanks. Since I am not a professional and had one help me with this project, I could only rely on his expertise and advice.
Great stuff! Thanks
Glad it was helpful.
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO. What are those leach pipes with “peanuts” called? What did you use to make sure the trench was level? No rocks were used, right? Thanks
There are various manufacturers that give them different names. You can’t find them at big box stores though. Have to get them at a septic supply. Use or rent a transom laser level for the trench. No rock was used at all.
thank you very cool. What is the name of the contractor who did the work. I wish can get him to fix my leach field and I live in Ridgefield, CT
You’re welcome. He was just a local retired contractor. A friend of a friend
You didn't leave a link for the foam peanut pipe, or styrofoam? I didn't realize it was code to use that product. Isnt' that for french drains only?
I didn't buy it online. I bought it from a local septic supply company. You need to check the codes in your area....they could be different. The peanuts in these septic pipes are a different material than the french drain.
Are those not strapped in (3)'s for shipping purposes and not install purpose?? are they not supposed to be singular?
This particular system and brand uses this triple “pipe”. Other brands use a single pipe. This one is better because you will get more capacity if your soil percolates slower.
Recently got a 32k quote to replace our modest drainfield.
Prices have changed!
Crazy
$20k for my tiny field today and learned that it's actually too small for my house with latest requirements. So here I am looking for the DIY solution.
@@Fazins Whoa! Hope you can DIY it.
I just paid 10k in middle GA.
How many feet of ez flow pipe did you end up using?
150'
What was the perc test result?
Where do you get the peanuts, lowes or home depot? Great video! Trying to get up the materials so I can do it myself of course. Thanks!
Glad we could help. Neither. We went to a septic supply company. The big box stores don’t have these as far as I know.
Which company did you go to? Or do you have an online recommendation?
@@osmosisomni2248 Do it yourself my friend! DIY. That is the point of the video.
Sorry, I was not specific. I meant where did you get these leech field drain kits from?
That is the worst drain field to put in
Where did you find the drain pipe? Is it regular French drain pipe?
That is not regular French drain pipe. I got it at a septic supply company.
could you give us some different names that big box stores may carry , as we are in Canada and having a hard time finding them to purchase without a contractor?
We really only have Lowes and Home Depot here and both of them do not carry it. You have to go through a septic supply house. That is where I got mine. I told them I was working with a contractor, which was the truth, and they let me buy it.
Where did you get that drain tile? I can only find single tubes of it and none of it looks as high quality as the tripple tubes you have.
I bought them from a septic supply company.
Is that material porous over the top or can a guy just use plastic to cover and keep the dirt out of the peanuts ?
The material keeping the dirt out is porous.
Getting ready for another "repair" - So, I'm seeing what's new? Thanks!
You're welcome
Yeah I would look into leach chambers and use gravel.
I think chambers would have been a longer lasting better option .
How much footage of drainfield would you need for a 3 person household.
The more the better. I would say 100ft.
I have to replace my leach bed and they tell me i have to go through the health department first then they draw it up and i have to do it the way they say or get fined. I would love to do it myself but have to play the game with them or no go. Yea I'm in Tennessee so i guess that's the problem. Any advice would be great thank you for all you do
Some places are like that. It all depends on the jurisdiction.
Good job getting that fixed! What is the name of that drain line product?
Thank you. I don't remember the exact name of this product. I did find one similar called EZflow. Here is the website: www.infiltratorwater.com/products/ezflow-septic-system/. If I can find out for you I will leave another comment.
That works, thank you!
What stop rain water enter your septic tank and flood all the poop to flow out
It is a closed system. They are designed not to flood because it is set in soil that will drain. It will not flow back into the tank (where the poop is) unless it is completely submerged in a pond.
Hello would only one line work for a 880 sq feer house?
Why do you put 2 of the peanut pipes under 1. Why do some videos have the 3 laying side by side. Which is correct?
That is how this particular brand is designed. Neither is wrong.
What brand were your peanut pipes. I’d like to look up the manufacturer info?
That’s looks like the type of drain field that we have.
Cool
This may be slightly off topic, but...I have raised beds over my leach field. Is this a major health hazard assuming that I have a system that is less than 4 years old?
vegetables
The idea of a leach field is that the effluent is "treated" enough when it comes out of the leach lines. "They" wouldn't allow them if it was toxic. I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you are worried about it, do not plant deep rooted veg/fruit like tomatoes.
@@CountryLivingExperience Thanks for your reply and all that you do!
are there any DIY aerobic systems? they seem much easier to install because the leech field is smaller. I can't belive they force you to sign a yearly contact. Why not just not pay for it? what can they do?
They require power and I didn't want the hassle of moving parts. Passive systems are good for me.
I have to know if its not to much to ask. But what state are you in? I just got a price quote for something like this here in NC and on the low it quoted me $15,000.
We are in Texas. Prices vary wildly from state to state and area to area.
Where did you buy the pipes
A local septic supply company.
I have a baco and other equipment. I'ma farmer. Do you remember how much the d box 90s and maybe two 20ft sections of peanut pipes was. I'm in East NC. I own 26 more open aces behind my house. Only when I wash clothes the field overflows
Not a separate drain pipe on my washer it goes through my Septic. I wanna change that as well
It was about $1100 for all the materials years ago. 150ft of the peanut pipes, the d box, some elbows, and fabric cover. I live in Texas though. Not sure how different prices would be in NC.
@@CountryLivingExperience ok thanks 👍.
GO GREEN!!
can u put gravel instead of dirt?
Yes, some. But then you will still have to cover it with soil if it is in your yard.
@@CountryLivingExperience thanks so much for answering.
@@CountryLivingExperience can u do drain leach for washer only? and how deep and wide can leach field should be ??
So it's been a while, have you had any further issues with this system 🤔? Also. Where did you buy these peanut Styrofoam system?
It has worked flawlessly. No issues at all. I got the styrofoam peanut system at a local septic supply house. They asked if I was a contractor and I told them no but my contractor told me to come buy the materials.
@@CountryLivingExperience awesome thank you
Where are you locates?
I had to get a new drain field because the first one was poorly made and they put a big hill and now it's there and makes my yard super ugly
Sorry to hear that.
Here, just to come out and inspect the system was $ 3,000.00 4 years ago. That was with a $1000 discount after the wildfires.
That is crazy.
Why did you decide to go with styrofoam instead of gravel?
Way less expensive in my area.
Actually using an aero-stream system would have made it an aerobic system for less but it might not have fixed the drainage.
Yep. The lines were totally blocked
thousand dollars you paid a friend for 6 hours of work? I wanna be your friend lol. I wouldn't ever charge my friends something like that for HVAC work(my trade) but everyone is different I guess. good video though.
Thank you. Actually a friend of a friend. It was way cheaper than all the other options. I am an Architect and always give friends deep discounts. I was out of options on the septic deal.
The cost of replacing these vital systems are ridiculous then they wonder why people prefer sewer systems everywhere.
What tool did you use for checking the grade of the trenches? 10:00
That is a laser transit level. Like this one...amzn.to/3o4g18w
@@CountryLivingExperience Thank you for the quick response as well as your helpful video.
could you use "socks" around the pipes????
Instead of the fabric?
What type fabric you put over ez flow pipes
It was recommended to me by the septic supply store. Not sure what brand it is. Sorry.
What was the fabric made of? was it plastic, was it woven, was it like a tyvek type? Even though you don’t know the name or brand of the covering fabric, maybe you could describe?
@@carriestrong591 It was a standard, below grade, spun (not woven) polyester filter fabric. Easily obtained from many outlets.
Turn on the CC. Say what?
Where did you buy the drain tail?
There is a local septic supply company. As you saw in the video, the drain lines must remain relatively flat.
Thank you!
Who fixes thoose is it a plumbing company?
@@martrome7449 If you do not do it yourself, you need to call a septic company.
Sorry sir, your septic did not pass inspection. You cannot sell/close at this time. Here's contact info, a few guys(buddies of mine) will take care of you for around $30,000.
lol
@@williamrobinson6680 man that happened to me. I didn’t didn’t even have anything wrong with my septic system but the buyer wanted it inspected as a condition of sale. The septic company comes out there, says the can’t find the access cap and then starts digging. Somehow by the end of the afternoon I ended up getting charged $3000 to install an new top slab with a new access hatch. The septic company screws you over because it’s two weeks before closing and you just have to bite the bullet. They know your not going to contest payment and potentially get a lien put on your home to mess up those whole sale. They really have you over a barrel.
How long normally does these fields last🤔
Depends. It well taken care of in an area with good soil, I have heard of conventional systems lasting 50 years. These styrofoam ones have not been around that long but they should last for quite a long time if properly maintained.
My house has this system in now and it’s beginning to fail. It was built in 1985 and I assume it’s original
huge system.. apt complex ? looks like overkill. tanks are usually bulletproof
No. This isn't overkill at all. It is only oversized by 20% for our 3 bed 2 bath house.
You didn't get it inspected?
Why?
is this still holding up good?
Still working perfectly
Most places are going to require a formal percolation test and a leach field plan submitted to the AHJ to be approved and inspected so you dont contaminate the watershed. The perc test alone is not cheap. Maybe you can get away with this in your county in TX, but many throughout the rest of the country cannot. I'm not sure how realistic this video is. Annnd OP hides any replies from here on out. I see how you roll.
So why are you watching this video?
It is realistic enough to have 75k views and numerous comments of praise saying "thank you for helping me with this knowledge".
@@CountryLivingExperience I'm in the industry and was curious what people publicly post. Eric, did you receive a formal waiver from Smith County to do what you did? I'd be surprised if you met the 10 acre exemption threshold. I get it if you don't want anyone telling you what to do with your land, but I'm just saying that this video is probably misleading for a lot of people who wouldn't have the luxury of doing whatever.
@@mikedyer6004 oh come on man! Quit being such a damn square! Quit being a mindless robot and think outside the box a little bit it would be good for you honestly. It's our land! And we should be able to do whatever the hell we want on our land and there are not City officials or county officials driving by watching 24 hours a day to make sure you're up to no good
Here in Washington state anything having to do with septic needs permits and everything gets reported to the health dept.
It's silly how strict people are about reporting things to their masters haha. I could understand if you have evil neighbors close by who like to call the cops but otherwise the only thing you gain by reporting yourself to the authorities is additional costs.
First time i've seen anyone use peanut type piping for a leech field.
Very common now. Especially here.
DUUUUDDE!
THAT YOU, RYAN EGGOLD???
You know it.
Don't call anyone just fix it
Seems like a lot of drainfield for such a small septic system.
I put in extra line.
You don't need permits to work on your own property.
In many states you do. You also don’t own your property. You rent it from the government.
There is so much you do not know about installing a septic system .You are right in some places there are rules to install because you can pollute the water supply for your home and or other people.Telling people you can do this is not the thing to do .
Throwing stones without offering any specifics. Typical.
Can you build a new system with this product
Yes, Absolutely. Great for new systems. That is essentially what we did.
@@CountryLivingExperience thakn you i guess this is what the inspector was talking about .it saves alot of space
Won't the foam slowly depress down with all that dirt packed on top??? I mean this can't last nearly as long as say pvc and gravel or sand
I haven't had any issues. I would look to the manufacturer for longevity details.
@@CountryLivingExperience Werrd I'm not hating, more power to people do stuff themselves.
I just know over time those peanuts gotta soak with water mabye get soggy or just sheer weight.
Il check it out and see the years, was looking for cheaper alternatives considering I don't plan on be alive as long as a full system would last lol saves more money
@@noch3579 I didn't think you were hatin so no worries.
The peanuts are not the same as the ones you see in the bib box store. They are another type of material. Much more firm and not as spongy. Mine has had no issues since install.
We use Styrofoam to build roads.
In CA this is about 20-30k… pathetic state.
That is insane. Hope you can get out of there.
where in CA? i live in CA and we do leech lines for 7500 to 10000 and full replacement for around 12000
@@brandonhernandez5720 Silicon Valley
Be very nice to have ENGLISH. captioning
My brother lost his house over that pump system
How?
@CountryLivingExperience he couldn't afford to pay for the pump system so they took his house
@@jefferykeeper9034 OH my! That is horrible.
That looks pretty easy..
I can't believe your friend charged you $1,000 for his labor for a day. You need new friends
He was a friend of a friend and he gave me a discount from what he normally charges.
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Compost toilets are better cheaper and cleaner. I'm so sick of $ gouging City crap especially when property is in the Country and the land has already been sh*tted up back when settlers were living on the same lands. Plus the leach lines kill trees, vegetation and you lose all of your land to use for growing food. It doesn't make sense . People throw diapers and doggie crap bags kitty crap in the trash everyday and they worry about Compost toilets? smh
does toilet paper go into this?
No. Your toilet paper should stay and break down in the concrete tank.
I have seen these used in french drains but never in septic fields.
You must have to be careful about driving anything on top of them.
They have more dense foam than the french drain types. Yes, you still need to be very careful to not drive anything heavy on top of them.
@@CountryLivingExperience When you were back filling at 11:05 I was bighting my pencil. It looked to me like the earth would easily crush / compress the styro and pipe within.
@@symcardnel1741 I have not had any issues with it so far. When he was backfilling the trenches I was cringing a bit too.
Aerobic Systems:
1.) The pumps are constantly going out.💲💲💲
2.) the State of Texas will allow the homeowner to jump through some hoops and monitor the system yourself. ✔️
3.) This systems require the addition of costly chlorine tablets. Many(most?) people abandon that practice due to cost, and just go au natural, baby!💩
That stuff is junk
How so?
This video is what you do not use in a leach field
These are junk. Why not use drainage stone and pvc It will last longer
Cost
That particular system that you put in is garbage from experience of 25 years that stuff is really made for a downspout on the house not for a drainfield although I know they let you use it for drainfield last about four years that’s it I’ve dug up many of them
I appreciate the warning. That was all I could afford at the time.
No gravel. Fail
Hahahahah