Why Did Prince Fire Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis? | Jemele Hill is Unbothered
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis detail what their relationship with Prince was like, and why the musician fired the iconic songwriting duo at one point. Jimmy Jam shares why he thinks there was a silent rivalry between him and Prince.
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Of course Prince fired Jimmy and Terry. These guys were threatening. They are beautiful hit Makers. Prince was good but not all of his female proteges were bankable.
The Time was the most talented band in the 1980s Funk/R&B. Look at what each of the individuals did on their own. Incredible.
Say it louder
Very interesting story…… tells you a lot about prince, but also a lot about Jimmie Jam and Terry Lewis!!!!!
It tells you he was the boss and according Jessie Johnson these guys picked on him when he was young so they had beef before.
Whenever I think about Prince firing them I'm thankful.
This Makes Prince One Of The Greatest, because of it wasn't for the pink slip that was issued it wouldn't be Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis the Architect of The Music Thats the Soundtrack to our Lives.
Prince sounds like a control freak, not a people person.
But Why Was Jesse there? Jimmy walks out. Morris walks out. Terry walks out.......and Jesse remained..?
Even though the _The Time_ was technically, Morris' band, it was made up almost entirely of Terry's former band _Flyte Tyme._ It was Morris' band, but Terry was _still_ respected as the band's functional leader. When Terry and Jam were fired, Jesse basically took over Terry's role as the operational leader of the band. Jesse brought in *Paul Petersen* (a.k.a. St. Paul), *Mark Cardenas,* and *Gerry Hubbard* to replace *Monte Moir, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis,* respectively.
Morris clearly didn't like seeing Jam & Lewis fired, while Jesse was already someone who Prince worked with individually outside of his role with _The Time._ During his Questlove podcast interview, Jesse indicated that he contributed to some of the tracks on the 1999 album, although he was a bit disappointed not to be credited. Aside from frequently not being credited, Jesse enjoyed a good working relationship with Prince until Morris left _The Time_ after the _Purple Rain_ film was completed, and Prince formed _The Family_ choosing *St. Paul* to front the new group. Jesse was not about to be a backing musician for a guy whom he had personally brought into _The Time._ Up until then, he had a somewhat close and fairly cordial working relationship with Prince.
Jimmy jam was stealing prince style 🤣🤣😂😂😂 since 12-13 year's old n jimmy jam daddy was a dj
There are three men involved in this interview, especially Jamal.
Awwwwww you are really in love
These guys are music geniuses.
Wow jimmy I’m a Gemini too grandson the 6 my is the 7 . ♊️
And so was Prince, who happened to be exactly a week younger than me. We will both be 65, me on May 31 and Price would have been on June 7th
@@williewade1 the best sign Gemini family
They fired themselves....but...it worked out well. Jam and Lewis also wrote EVERY hit for Janet Jackson.
They went on to produce Janet Jackson’s #1 album, CONTROL. 👩🏽🦱🇺🇸
@Tony You may want to look at life with a POSITIVE perspective, or else live a crappy life
They are both in their 60s. As they say, "black don't crack".
They were snowed in due to playing for the S.O.S. Band..
I love and highly respect Prince's musicianship and creativity. However, there are too many stories to demonstrate that he was a tyrant and had serious control issues. Also, Alexander O'Neal's charge about firing him because he was too black to be the lead singer, is likely true. Prince like Michael Jackson had obvious color issues too. If you look at the women that Prince chose to promote, you see no women darker than him as a sign. Still, I absolutely love Terrry's class positive way of looking at a past bad stitution: "Prince did not fire us he freed us to our destiny."
Alexander was fired bc he wanted money
"Jamie Starr is a thief. It's Time to fix yo clock. Vanity 6 is so sweet..." D.M.S.R
I'm still not used to the slimmer Jimmy Jam. I like the big guy
You and me both
I remember thinking 💭 he might have had weight loss surgery !
This story isn’t so bad. Nor very unusual. All great acts have similar stories.
Look at the MOTOWN and other great Music Companies and Acts of the 60’s.
I just cal it Growing Pains.
Remember, the Cream Always Rises To The Top. Period.💜🕊️
My brother, uncle and I met them when they were in Detroit. Right inside Trappers Alley in Greektown. They were with Cherrelle. The nicest people I've ever met in the industry. I'm a musician as well and they have always inspired me. I'm a fan from day one. Stay classy fellas!
They probably wouldn't have never worked for Janet if they were still with Prince.
It would be great if a movie came out about these 2
So Prince broke up my favorite band on a bluff? 😳 I still haven’t gotten over it. I know. It’s petty but I’m always gonna wonder how great they could’ve been as a group. Jimmy and Terry could still do their thing. The rest of the fellas as well. I will always miss them as a band. RIP Prince 💜
They were told not to work with other groups they did and got fired.
@@lauraveney1412especially considering Prince gave them to become professional musicians!
Prince wanted to create the new Motown in Paisley Park. The Time Was One Of His Alter Egos. He wrote a played all of the instruments in the studio. He just didn't know how to bring it all together without Ego and control. Can you imagine if it would've happened. The Greatest To Ever Do It! Rest In Power Messenger!!
Coulda been, he ruined it himself.
good work Jemele !!!... thank you
LEGENDS☝️🖤🇺🇸
Legendary song writing duo with an endless, brilliant and still growing music catalogue. Keep winning Jam and Lewis....R.I.P. Prince
I'm happy for you guys you are monster producers in
the music industry. You guys have respect for each other that's rare in bands and singing groups.I enjoyed you guys inview very much Prince did you a wonderful favor now look at what you're become .
And they have ENDLESS SMASH HITS 😂!!!!
So Prince is responsible for Janet Jackson's career. lol
Prince was magically coming up with songs AFTER being with the REAL people who were making the song. Prince didn't do those songs. It was Andre Simone.
ALL the heavy synth stuff.
He uses your efforts in his studio, fires you, keeps your ideas
Prince was a friggin thief and a hack
The way people describe Prince is that he was an iconic Genius. Very hardworking and talented, however he also had a controlling, competitive, jealous spirit. Sad
All Creatives are Multi-faceted. All People, really.
His Royal Badness was not DIVINE; just Perfect to his fans.💜🕊️
Yeah, that was a bitch move on Prince's part. However, all of us are made of a whole host of elements, both positive, and negative. It's just about which side do we allow to dominate.
@@onlinesavant
Plus, it’s SHOW BUSINESS. That’s just How It’s Done.
(Actors, Directors, Producers, etc. have Very Similar Stories.)
Not just a PRINCE “character flaw.” He learned Early.
@@joiisler8986 But it wasn't "business." As they said, he didn't actually fire them. He was jealous of Jam for some reason according to both their accounts. What's that got to do with "business?" No. He was an immature individual, that let his power go to his head. Though this is not an unusual thing, I personally am not going to make it seem like it was something other than what it actually was.
@@onlinesavant One thing to bare in mind is at the the time Prince fired Jimmy and Terry he was only 24 years old very controlling and insecure and immature…a kid! In his later years Prince had evolved into a much different person. Jimmy and Terry were obviously done a HUGE favor by being let go and in hindsight Prince was the one who suffer the loss. He took the power of “the firing” out of the hands of the bandleader which was Morris Day. Monte Moir left with Jam and Lewis. Prince chose their replacements..not Morris….long story short the best band Prince ever had in his stable was torn asunder. I believe Prince regretted it whole heartedly the older he got. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Jesse Johnson, Morris Day, Monte Moir and Jellybean Johnson all left and went on to be great outside of Prince’s shadow. The Time was clearly the most talented act Prince ever worked with.
Why do prior band members and their entourage creep out the woodwork with stories after the lead member dies? Why not talk about the person while he or she is alive.
Lol...It seems Prince didn't like the competition, always wanting to be the best. He threw Michael the shade as well
The heck with Michael. He wouldn't even help Janet get started
@@BoosterGoldEarth6 Michael don't have anything to do with this....The Time & Prince were friends b4 it all.....even after being fired ....they did a full circle & worked together on occasions.....as J Jam said ...Morris & Prince were always close....
That's my 💍 tone just be good to me thanks Roger 😅