Fun fact! At 20:19 when Doc says "I've got two guns, one for each of ya...", he spins his guns in opposite directions which is very tough to do, especially while drunk! Hats off to Val Kilmer!
Doc Holiday is the worlds most famous dentist. A gambler, friend and shootist. They aren't characters, they were real people. But my favourite line from Doc. "I know Ike, let's have a spelling contest".
What most people don't get is when Doc says "Why Ike whatever do you mean?" he's trying to get him to call him a chest, because then legally he could take him outside and draw on him!!! Kevin Jarre did a massive amount of research for this film and it is absolutely gravid with detail!!!!!!!
What made that line so rich was that Ike probably couldn't spell the word: A, as in A dog. I love that line, too, and i was sad it didn't make the edit. However, Doc telling Kate that she was probably the antichrist did, and that's another great line that's often left out.
Wyatt apparently was bulletproof. In this combat, called The Canyon Fight, he walked forward as depicted in the film. Witnesses said that his duster(long coat) was riddled with bullet holes, but he was untouched. In all of his years, he was not even scratched by a bullet.
Tombstone is fairly accurate to how things went down. The part where Wyatt walked into a hall bullets without being hit actually happened! Great movie. You two are awesome❤
The main thing they changed is there was no way doc killed Ringo as he was found slumped against the tree and buried there.Buckskin Frank Leslie was the first to take credit
@@nathanwallace3337Wyatt also took credit at one point. But it’s believed it was suicide. Ringo when to see his family a few days before he was found and witnesses say that it didn’t go well and the family was nasty to him. He had been seen drinking more then normal after seeing them leading up to his death
Doc lived the life he wanted. Once he got the death sentence of TB he went west for a drier climate. He gambled, had sex and the violence was what he chose. He had a freedom most of us could never dream of. He realized his fate and loved to the fullest.
Doc has an interesting history. He was actually a dentist, but contracted TB, so he had to close his practice. He basically decided he didn't want to wait for death and would die with his boots on. He became a gambler and learned to become extremely fast with pistols. He had no fear of death, as he knew it was coming for him anyway. Being fearless made him a legend.
So many great reactions to this movie, but yours is one of the only one to pick up on (or at least mention) the fact that Wyatt's "Hell's coming with me" line is indeed a call back to what the priest said in the beginning. Its good to see people pick up on the subtle things. 😀 Nice reaction ladies!
The young lady who teared up...Your heart is in the right place. Stay blessed..I like how you keep your reactions real and chilled out. Nothing fake hyper stressed reactions.
One of my favorite lines ever is when Doc says, "My hypocrisy only goes so far." after earlier saying, "My hypocrisy knows no bounds." Such a phenomenal performance by such a great actor. Legend.
the actor Kurt Russell , in real life, is actually very nice, humble and shy. met him once, he said he never watches his own movies as he gets embarrassed
I’ve heard quite a few actors say that they don’t enjoy watching themselves onscreen. It must be kind of weird watching your every quirk magnified on a big screen.
The city of Tombstone is a fun little tourist area where you can have a meal see a show and a reenactment shootout on one of the most famous dirt streets in America
14:13 What a lot of people miss in this scene is that Doc won this encounter on multiple fronts. While showing off his pistol twirling skills Ringo gave away to Doc how fast he really is. However, Doc is faster than Ringo even while drunk. Furthermore, Doc was able to perfectly mimic all of Ringo’s moves without giving away his speed.
True also when ringo is drunk doc had his gun out behind him to be sure he killed him but ringo got saved ringo was no slouch so doc wanted him out the way n also when he saw ringo aim in that encounter he noticed ringo pulls his hammer after drawing while doc pulls while drawing both fast but one allows you to shoot from the hip which doc did.
Val Kilmer should have won an award for his performance in this movie. Kurt Russell was fabulous also. Geesh the whole cast was amazing. One of my favorite movies ever. Then again I go to the real Tombstone often.
Fun Fact.When Curly Bill kills the Marshall he uses a technique often referred to as the 'Underhanded Road Agent' where you hold your pistol out grip first as if you're surrendering it but you have your middle finger inside the trigger guard touching the trigger and your thumb on the hammer, you then flip or "roll" the pistol cocking the hammer as you do so and fire the pistol upside down.
This was a great reaction to one of my favorite movies. I will jump in to speak in defense of Doc's girlfriend, Kate. This movie went through a lot of production changes, and one of the results is that most of the women's stories got edited out. It made Kate come off looking pretty bad and like an enabler to Doc's self-destruction. In reality, though, Doc had tuberculosis, which was not curable at that time. It could take years to end a person's life, with the disease fading and strengthening over and over. I feel like Doc's drinking, smoking, fighting, etc., was almost a quest to die of anything but the TB, only he was too lucky and too good at gunfighting, so in the end, the TB won. He and Kate were together on and off for years. They fought, broke up, and got back together many times. Kate nursed Doc through some of his worst bouts of sickness, and although it's not shown in the movie, she was helping to care for him at the sanatorium when he died. Even when they were broken up for long periods, she didn't have another serious relationship until after Doc passed. I suspect she knew he would never change his ways because he didn't want to die of the TB, so she didn't try to make him follow the advice of doctors. Doc Holliday is a truly cool person, and he and Big Nose Kate Horony are one of my favorite real historical couples. I'd love to see a movie just about them.
Ladies, this is my favorite move of the last 20 years. You were really paying attention, and got all the story moments and the themes, which many others completely miss. You didn't have any expectations of what a "Western" should be. This movie is so much more. As others have mentioned, this was a true story in American history- all the characters lived. Also...I like your new outfits- I'm the one who was encouraging you to change it up a bit haha!
Wyatt testified at Curly Bill's trial. Testified that Bill's guns were hair triggered and could be fired from a "half-cock" position (which is like a safety for revolvers.) It looks like Bill' is using "The Road Agents Spin, " a gun trick that would allow a person to shoot someone while the guns were being handed over.
The movie left out the politics of the region at that time. There was a lot of tension between the town folk and the cattle folk, because cow handlers spent money in town, but also raised a lot of hell. The Clinton-McLaury Cowboys were criminals, but they also had ranches in the county (in the Old West, a "cowboy" is a cow handler of flexible morals who alternated between honest labor and criminal activities), and they were shrewd enough to commit most of their crimes in Mexico, so they were on good terms with most of the cattle community, and had their sympathy during the conflict with the Earps. There was also a conflict between town & county law enforcement. Sheriff Behan was chief LE officer for the entire county, and he was elected by county residents, most of whom were cattle folk, so Behan always sided with the cowboys. Virgil Earp was town marshal, hired by the town council, and a town resident, so of course he and his brothers represented the interests of the town folk. After the territorial governor made Wyatt Earp a US Marshal and gave him warrants for the arrest of the Cowboys for the murder of Morgan Earp, and Wyatt executed those warrants by killing several of the Cowboys, Sheriff Behan deputized the Cowboys, and gave them warrants for the arrest of Wyatt and his deputies. So you had two groups of law officers with warrants for the arrest of each other, using their authority to just kill each other outright. That's why they called it the Wild West.
Great reaction! Most of this story is true and can be traced in the Tombstone Newspaper to this day. Wyatt's Oriental saloon is still standing, now used as a clothing store. You can take tours of the Birdcage theater and see the Cowboy's bullet holes in the ceiling.
The actor that got bitch slapped at the start in the Oriental is Billy Bob Thornton an Academy Award winner. Two great movies to have a look at are “Bad Santa” which is rather dark but funny as heck and the other you might like is “Sling Blade”, the one I believe he won the Academy Award for. A little trivia: he was married to Angelina Jolie.
As usual, a very insightful reaction by the two “brains.” Although some liberties were taken, most of the events of the movie happened. The most unbelievable thing, the ambush at the creek was real and apparently, Wyatt really do go wading in and shoot the bad guys. One thing you missed: when the Cowboy put the barrel of the pistol in his mouth right before they shot him, he didn’t think it was a drink. He was in an opium den and thought he was getting a hit from an opium pipe. Guess again, Cowboy!
This movie is as much about the legend of Doc Holliday as it is about Wyatt & the Earps - knowing that Doc had tuberculosis and it was fatal would reframe how you see his behavior and lifestyle. You didn't survive TB back then. So he knew he was going to die from it. Now had he "taken it easier", he probably would have lived longer, but ask yourself...if you knew you were going to die fairly young regardless, how would you live out the time you have? Who would you be with? Someone who is going to treat you like you're already dead or someone who helps you have the best quality of life and to do what's important to you? Is it better to live 2-3 years the way you want, or live 5-6 years barely leaving your house and laying in a bed? A couple other notes - Mattie was an opioid addict. She was from the first scene we see her in the movie. She was always going to die just like Doc was, and Wyatt knew that. The scene where Doc tells Wyatt what makes a man like Ringo behave the way he does, nobody ever catches it, but Doc is talking largely about himself. That's why he says earlier in the movie, that Ringo "reminds me of...me". The only difference is Doc chose not to fill the hole within him with destruction and pain of innocent people, he did it mostly to himself with his lifestyle. And some deserving bad folks who needed shot. Lastly, Doc was called Doc because when he was younger he practiced for awhile as a dentist. He found that pretty boring and not exactly lucrative back in those days because people didn't care much about their oral hygiene, so he decided to pick up a new trade or two, and along the way became known as one of the fastest guns in Western lore. He was also very intelligent as you can see, while most of the other wild west outlaws were little more than buffoons and low IQ brutes. So it's alleged he won a ton gambling and playing cards because he was simply smarter, or smart enough to count cards. Could be either one. Also lastly lastly, almost anyone will tell you that Val Kilmer was robbed of an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc in this film.
Y'all picked up on stuff I never really picked up on before, like " I just wanted to let you know it's over" and even the dog talking about the normal life I always loved that line but for some reason when you said it it really clarified it for me. Thanks epic reaction
Basically everything you saw was events which actually happened. The shot out in the river between Wyatt and Curly Bill actually took place also. It was a crazy time but it happened. Glad you reacted to the film. It is one of my favorite films. Y'all be safe.
8:46 The guy who was shot in the ear is played by veteran western actor Buck Taylor. Buck Taylor famously played the character Newley on the classic tv western Gunsmoke. Taylor is still alive today and recently guest starred on the neo western drama Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. As many have said already Costner did his own movie version of the Wyatt Earp story called Wyatt Earp. Gunsmoke is one of the oldest running western in broadcast media history. It originally stated as a radio show in 1951 but a tv version launched in 1955. It told the story of a fictional law man named Marshall Matt Dillon. The show ran for 20 seasons on the CBS network ending in 1975. As a young boy I watched the last few seasons of Gunsmoke with my family in first run.
Thank you for watching this movie and like another commenter mentioned you to do seem to understand the story behind the movies behind each character you two are awesome. Hope you two had a good Thanksgiving.
This is one of the most accurate movies about Wyatt Earp. But there was another slightly more accurate to history that came out the same year. It is Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner and is very good. But no one has yet come close to Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday in this movie. Val really stole the show here.
There’s a few interviews with Biehn on UA-cam, including a recent one with Michael Rosenbaum (played Lex Luther in the smallville tv series) where he talks about his experiences on all his movies, and interactions with other actors and directors, including this one.
Greetings from Finland girls!!! Great choice!!! When Doc says i got two guns one for each of you.. He spinned the guns opposite directions.. If you girls didn't notice that??? "i'll be back" 😎
I don't believe, if my memory serves, that Wyatt & Mattie were actually married. Mattie became Wyatt's common-law wife at some point after Wyatt's first wife died. Mattie was a prostitue & drifter, making her way to Dodge City where she & Wyatt met.
Wyatt's wife is a drug addict. Laudanum is opium base mixed with alcohol. One of those old cure all medicines they used back at that time. Doc Holliday is suffering tuberculosis which he's had for many years. The dry desert climate has kept him alive this far. Doc is just living his life as he sees fit because he knows the disease will eventually kill him. This is a good movie based on some actual events. I'm more into the older Westerns but this movie and Unforgiven are some of the best modern Westerns. You should give Unforgiven a viewing, it star Clint Eastwood and Morgan Freeman
The first scene with Doc wasn't a robbery, the money he took were the stakes of the poker game they were playing (i.e. what all of the chips were worth)
35:02 I've watched a lot of reactions for this movie and you girls are the only ones to ever notice that reference back to the beginning of the movie. Great job 👍.
Wyatt and Maddie were never married…they just lived together and she was an addict (to laudanum) like opium. The Ok Corral shooting really happened and the part on the creek with Wyatt killing Curly Bill. Wyatt was shot at but not hit. Doc had Tuberculosis so he died young. He was a great gunslinger. Val Kilmer (Doc) and Kurt Russell (Wyatt) were great. Doc had been a dentist, that’s why they called him Doc.
Very emotional reaction by the two of you and good observation that it doidn't have to be this way between these men. Good appreciation of the characters who were real and legrendary in life. One of the most watchable Westerns ever made.
Hey guys I absolutely loved your reaction to this!!!!!!! Doc Holliday is one of the most beloved characters of the old West, he was the fastest gun and because he was highly intelligent and very well educated he naturally was very adept at playing cards which is all math!!! He was also very good looking and Val Kilmer was the perfect actor to portray him as they look similar and Val is one of the greatest actors of all time!!!!!!! Please check out another movie of his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Robert Downey Jr.
My favorite All Time movie.! I have it on DVD that I actually bought at a gift store right next to The OK Corral when I went to Tombstone Arizona and toured the town and Boot Hill the graveyard one summer while on vacation.
One of my favorite movies, and based on real people and real events. The gunfight at the OK Corral is one of the most famous gunfights of the old American west, and Tombstone, Arizona, alas...It did not grow to be as big and sophisticated as San Francisco, but the town did preserve it's history very well and it's worth visiting.
25:38 Ah, you nailed it with Kate, Docs woman. He was not the kind of man to take it easy to get a few more months of misery. She never treated him like he was sick, when she heard the doctor tell him he didn’t have much time and she wasn’t going to let that bring him down. The way I see it, she was a pillar of strength to love and support Doc that way. At least, that’s what I think. Everyone should be so lucky to have a friend as good as Doc was.
Doc learned card counting from the housekeeper, who lived with the Hollidays. She taught him all the tricks of gambling. Some also said he had a photographic memory. She was a freed slave. I dont know whether anyone has discussed it, but Laudanum is a tincture of opium. Drug abuse was also a big problem in the old west. How things have changed. The guy who grabbed the gun barrel and stuck it in his mouth thought he had an opium pipe. Also, Curley Bill had just come out of a Chinese opium den when he started to shoot up the town. Tombstone is still there. Its really geared to tourists but still a great visit. Good reaction.
I'm starting to wonder just how much Dr. Reid from Criminal Minds might have actually been based on Doc. Even the effing laudanum made an appearance, which is ABSURD for a show in the 21st century.
It is an absolute sin that Val Kilmer did not receive a academy award for this role. He absolutely steals the show. Everybody in this movie was great, but he was amazing. His death at the end always gets me a little choked up.
I love this movie so much and I typically hate westerns, so it’s saying a lot just how much I like this movie. Val Kilmers portrayal of Doc Holiday is my favorite, I love all the great lines and the acting, it’s perfect for the character.
One of the interesting little details I liked about this movie is that they don't shy away from depicting (albeit in a very abstract manner) homosexual relationships between men in the old West. It's actually handled in a very realistic way, too - gay men in that part of the world certainly weren't 'accepted' in any sense of the word but they weren't apt to be hassled by any of their peers, either. Most men in those days had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, not because they were tolerant but because everybody carried a gun. In that kind of a lawless environment, it was a really bad idea to confront anyone over ANYTHING so if people had a problem with homosexuality, they more or less had to learn to keep it to themselves... Or get really good at dodging bullets.
Doc Holliday was born in Georgia. He later became a dentist when he contracted tuberculosis. He went out west for the drier climate. The thinking was it would help with his illness.
One of Doc Holiday's famous quotes was that he swore to die with his "boots on". At the end he is amazed that he doesn't. He doesn't see a light or anything, he just thinks his "Hypocrisy knows no bounds" when he dies with his boots off.
The whole country used to have a law called Mutual Combat. It means that both parties agreed to fight. Therefore no law was broken. Most states in the south still have it.
When Doc says "This is funny" while looking at his feet, he's responding to the fact that gunslingers or cowboys were supposed to die with their boots on. He was a gunslinger. it's funny to him that he died with his boots off after living the life he lived.
Here's a classic for you also based on actual events. ZULU (1964 introducing Michael Caine) a British Military Action where more VC's were awarded than in any other action before or since.
Doc is a legend .... this movie is one if the most accurate historical movies.... they obviously how to delete some stuff out because it was had to be 2 hours or something...... after the gun fight at the okay Corral they were actually all arrested and put on trial for murder but Wyatt Earp and his brothers and Doc were all acquitted....... and then that's when they went on the Rampage and killed all the Cowboys
The river scene where walks out one of the guys survived in real life before dying later and said how that part was real. He walked out and none of the bullets hit him.
Fun fact! At 20:19 when Doc says "I've got two guns, one for each of ya...", he spins his guns in opposite directions which is very tough to do, especially while drunk! Hats off to Val Kilmer!
Kilmer was absolutely amazing in this role.
And while holding his tin cup
Doc died of tuberculosis. Easily cured today with antibiotics but nothing available back then. Lung bacteria, that's why they called him a "lunger"
Also called consumption, because it eventually consumed your lungs. Ouch.
Irl Doc and Wyatt had a bad falling out before Doc died.
For sure, most people in the west got a vaccine against TB as kids
@@HolyGhostofBobbyLupo no they didnot...
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Yes they did
Doc Holiday is the worlds most famous dentist. A gambler, friend and shootist.
They aren't characters, they were real people. But my favourite line from Doc. "I know Ike, let's have a spelling contest".
I love that one as well, lol.
The way the lines were delivered by Kilmer was classic….
The dialogue was funny, Kilmer was brilliant.
Yes, the ultimate burn.
What most people don't get is when Doc says "Why Ike whatever do you mean?" he's trying to get him to call him a chest, because then legally he could take him outside and draw on him!!! Kevin Jarre did a massive amount of research for this film and it is absolutely gravid with detail!!!!!!!
What made that line so rich was that Ike probably couldn't spell the word: A, as in
A dog.
I love that line, too, and i was sad it didn't make the edit. However, Doc telling Kate that she was probably the antichrist did, and that's another great line that's often left out.
Wyatt apparently was bulletproof. In this combat, called The Canyon Fight, he walked forward as depicted in the film. Witnesses said that his duster(long coat) was riddled with bullet holes, but he was untouched. In all of his years, he was not even scratched by a bullet.
My all time favorite Western. Val Kilmer made a great Doc Holiday and Kurt Russell played a great Wyatt Earp❤
"You're no daisy"
Tombstone is fairly accurate to how things went down. The part where Wyatt walked into a hall bullets without being hit actually happened! Great movie. You two are awesome❤
The main thing they changed is there was no way doc killed Ringo as he was found slumped against the tree and buried there.Buckskin Frank Leslie was the first to take credit
@@nathanwallace3337Wyatt also took credit at one point. But it’s believed it was suicide. Ringo when to see his family a few days before he was found and witnesses say that it didn’t go well and the family was nasty to him. He had been seen drinking more then normal after seeing them leading up to his death
@@travisbrown1949 Is that true, visited the,? Where you got this information? I’m curious.
Doc lived the life he wanted. Once he got the death sentence of TB he went west for a drier climate. He gambled, had sex and the violence was what he chose. He had a freedom most of us could never dream of. He realized his fate and loved to the fullest.
"I have two guns.. one for each of you" just one of my favorite lines LOL love it
One of the best lines - "I have two guns, one for each of ya"
and if you can watch closely, Doc twirls his guns in opposite directions while holding his whiskey cup. Bravo!
I'm your huckleberry
Doc has an interesting history. He was actually a dentist, but contracted TB, so he had to close his practice. He basically decided he didn't want to wait for death and would die with his boots on. He became a gambler and learned to become extremely fast with pistols. He had no fear of death, as he knew it was coming for him anyway. Being fearless made him a legend.
Thinking he would die with his boots on. That's why, in his last scene when he's in bed looking at his bare feet, he says, "this is funny."
He contracted TB while caring for his mother as a teenager.
So many great reactions to this movie, but yours is one of the only one to pick up on (or at least mention) the fact that Wyatt's "Hell's coming with me" line is indeed a call back to what the priest said in the beginning. Its good to see people pick up on the subtle things. 😀 Nice reaction ladies!
Great reaction ladies. I hated when Doc died too. Val Kilmer played an AMAZING Doc Holiday ❤
The young lady who teared up...Your heart is in the right place. Stay blessed..I like how you keep your reactions real and chilled out. Nothing fake hyper stressed reactions.
Val Kilmer owned this movie playing Doc. His performance was amazing. Doc was the best of friends.
Should have got an Oscar for that performance. He steals every scene he’s in.
One of the best characters ever in a movie Doc Holiday and Val Kilmer should have won a Oscar
The battle at the creek actually happened and several eye witnesses say that Wyatt's coat was riddled with bullet holes, but not one touched him
"They should un-cowboy themselves." 😂 That made me laugh, ladies.
One of my favorite lines ever is when Doc says, "My hypocrisy only goes so far." after earlier saying, "My hypocrisy knows no bounds." Such a phenomenal performance by such a great actor. Legend.
“Why Ike, whatever do you mean?!”
Favorite line.
Great reaction.
the actor Kurt Russell , in real life, is actually very nice, humble and shy. met him once, he said he never watches his own movies as he gets embarrassed
That’s awesome
I’ve heard quite a few actors say that they don’t enjoy watching themselves onscreen. It must be kind of weird watching your every quirk magnified on a big screen.
Really enjoyed your reactions. When Curly Bill was shooting at the moon, he had just come out of an opium den.
A lot of reactors have no concept of the opium den in frontier American history, so do not understand that scene or what follows at all.
@@phila3884 Most reactors also miss that it says at the beginning of the movie that Doc Holiday had tuberculosis.
@@shadowbannedmel I wish people would actually pay closer attention to the movies they review.
The city of Tombstone is a fun little tourist area where you can have a meal see a show and a reenactment shootout on one of the most famous dirt streets in America
That Doc and Wyatt ending scene gets to me every time.
14:13 What a lot of people miss in this scene is that Doc won this encounter on multiple fronts. While showing off his pistol twirling skills Ringo gave away to Doc how fast he really is. However, Doc is faster than Ringo even while drunk. Furthermore, Doc was able to perfectly mimic all of Ringo’s moves without giving away his speed.
EXACTLY!!! He also made Ringo look like a twat and Doc came out looking like the much bigger man!!!
True also when ringo is drunk doc had his gun out behind him to be sure he killed him but ringo got saved ringo was no slouch so doc wanted him out the way n also when he saw ringo aim in that encounter he noticed ringo pulls his hammer after drawing while doc pulls while drawing both fast but one allows you to shoot from the hip which doc did.
Once you understand the Latin translation it elevates that scene even more.
Val Kilmer should have won an award for his performance in this movie. Kurt Russell was fabulous also. Geesh the whole cast was amazing. One of my favorite movies ever. Then again I go to the real Tombstone often.
Fun Fact.When Curly Bill kills the Marshall he uses a technique often referred to as the 'Underhanded Road Agent' where you hold your pistol out grip first as if you're surrendering it but you have your middle finger inside the trigger guard touching the trigger and your thumb on the hammer, you then flip or "roll" the pistol cocking the hammer as you do so and fire the pistol upside down.
This was a great reaction to one of my favorite movies. I will jump in to speak in defense of Doc's girlfriend, Kate. This movie went through a lot of production changes, and one of the results is that most of the women's stories got edited out. It made Kate come off looking pretty bad and like an enabler to Doc's self-destruction. In reality, though, Doc had tuberculosis, which was not curable at that time. It could take years to end a person's life, with the disease fading and strengthening over and over. I feel like Doc's drinking, smoking, fighting, etc., was almost a quest to die of anything but the TB, only he was too lucky and too good at gunfighting, so in the end, the TB won. He and Kate were together on and off for years. They fought, broke up, and got back together many times. Kate nursed Doc through some of his worst bouts of sickness, and although it's not shown in the movie, she was helping to care for him at the sanatorium when he died. Even when they were broken up for long periods, she didn't have another serious relationship until after Doc passed. I suspect she knew he would never change his ways because he didn't want to die of the TB, so she didn't try to make him follow the advice of doctors.
Doc Holliday is a truly cool person, and he and Big Nose Kate Horony are one of my favorite real historical couples. I'd love to see a movie just about them.
Ladies, this is my favorite move of the last 20 years. You were really paying attention, and got all the story moments and the themes, which many others completely miss. You didn't have any expectations of what a "Western" should be. This movie is so much more. As others have mentioned, this was a true story in American history- all the characters lived. Also...I like your new outfits- I'm the one who was encouraging you to change it up a bit haha!
Appaloosa is a really cool western that you could prob corner the reaction market on. For a series Deadwood is amazing!
Unforgiven (1992) is an excellent western.
The Japanese remake by the same name is not as good but interesting for how they change things: the kid being an Ainu minority for example.
Val Kilmer played Doc Holiday, and was in both Top Gun movies. there's another Val Kilmer that was good was called 'The Saint'.
And to see his comedy chops they should watch "Top Secret" or "Real Genius."
And let’s not forget his performance in “The Doors”. He was excellent in that one too, but this is my favorite role of his.
Curly Bill actually didn’t mean to kill Fred White, he was fond of him. That why he felt bad after accidentally shooting him.
Not to mention being high on opiates at the time. Hence his confusion at Fred collapsing to the ground.
@@richardjohnson5435 There are historians who will tell you that there were more opium dens in the Old West than saloons.
Wyatt testified at Curly Bill's trial. Testified that Bill's guns were hair triggered and could be fired from a "half-cock" position (which is like a safety for revolvers.) It looks like Bill' is using "The Road Agents Spin, " a gun trick that would allow a person to shoot someone while the guns were being handed over.
The movie left out the politics of the region at that time. There was a lot of tension between the town folk and the cattle folk, because cow handlers spent money in town, but also raised a lot of hell. The Clinton-McLaury Cowboys were criminals, but they also had ranches in the county (in the Old West, a "cowboy" is a cow handler of flexible morals who alternated between honest labor and criminal activities), and they were shrewd enough to commit most of their crimes in Mexico, so they were on good terms with most of the cattle community, and had their sympathy during the conflict with the Earps. There was also a conflict between town & county law enforcement. Sheriff Behan was chief LE officer for the entire county, and he was elected by county residents, most of whom were cattle folk, so Behan always sided with the cowboys. Virgil Earp was town marshal, hired by the town council, and a town resident, so of course he and his brothers represented the interests of the town folk. After the territorial governor made Wyatt Earp a US Marshal and gave him warrants for the arrest of the Cowboys for the murder of Morgan Earp, and Wyatt executed those warrants by killing several of the Cowboys, Sheriff Behan deputized the Cowboys, and gave them warrants for the arrest of Wyatt and his deputies. So you had two groups of law officers with warrants for the arrest of each other, using their authority to just kill each other outright. That's why they called it the Wild West.
Laudanum was a medicinal drink containing about 10% powdered opium by weight, including morphine and codeine. Maddy was addicted.
PS - Good job !!!
The best western movie ever made ! 👍🍿🇺🇸🇮🇹🇲🇽
I really love how you guys understand each movie you watch and really feel for the characters. You guys are too sweet! ❤❤❤
Great reaction! Most of this story is true and can be traced in the Tombstone Newspaper to this day. Wyatt's Oriental saloon is still standing, now used as a clothing store. You can take tours of the Birdcage theater and see the Cowboy's bullet holes in the ceiling.
They have 2 of the Glass windowed Coffins used in the Movie .... And go up to Boothill Cemetery and see their Graves!
Oh wow! So, they actually shot up the ceiling like they did in the film? I didn’t know that.
The actor that got bitch slapped at the start in the Oriental is Billy Bob Thornton an Academy Award winner. Two great movies to have a look at are “Bad Santa” which is rather dark but funny as heck and the other you might like is “Sling Blade”, the one I believe he won the Academy Award for. A little trivia: he was married to Angelina Jolie.
Also, his sex scene with Hailie? Berry was real. Lol dude put in that work on camera my guy is a cornstar
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He’s also excellent in season 1 of Fargo the tv series.
Great reaction! One of my all time favorite movies!!
As usual, a very insightful reaction by the two “brains.”
Although some liberties were taken, most of the events of the movie happened. The most unbelievable thing, the ambush at the creek was real and apparently, Wyatt really do go wading in and shoot the bad guys.
One thing you missed: when the Cowboy put the barrel of the pistol in his mouth right before they shot him, he didn’t think it was a drink. He was in an opium den and thought he was getting a hit from an opium pipe. Guess again, Cowboy!
This movie is as much about the legend of Doc Holliday as it is about Wyatt & the Earps - knowing that Doc had tuberculosis and it was fatal would reframe how you see his behavior and lifestyle. You didn't survive TB back then. So he knew he was going to die from it. Now had he "taken it easier", he probably would have lived longer, but ask yourself...if you knew you were going to die fairly young regardless, how would you live out the time you have? Who would you be with? Someone who is going to treat you like you're already dead or someone who helps you have the best quality of life and to do what's important to you? Is it better to live 2-3 years the way you want, or live 5-6 years barely leaving your house and laying in a bed?
A couple other notes - Mattie was an opioid addict. She was from the first scene we see her in the movie. She was always going to die just like Doc was, and Wyatt knew that.
The scene where Doc tells Wyatt what makes a man like Ringo behave the way he does, nobody ever catches it, but Doc is talking largely about himself. That's why he says earlier in the movie, that Ringo "reminds me of...me". The only difference is Doc chose not to fill the hole within him with destruction and pain of innocent people, he did it mostly to himself with his lifestyle. And some deserving bad folks who needed shot.
Lastly, Doc was called Doc because when he was younger he practiced for awhile as a dentist. He found that pretty boring and not exactly lucrative back in those days because people didn't care much about their oral hygiene, so he decided to pick up a new trade or two, and along the way became known as one of the fastest guns in Western lore. He was also very intelligent as you can see, while most of the other wild west outlaws were little more than buffoons and low IQ brutes. So it's alleged he won a ton gambling and playing cards because he was simply smarter, or smart enough to count cards. Could be either one.
Also lastly lastly, almost anyone will tell you that Val Kilmer was robbed of an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc in this film.
He also left dentistry because that's where he caught tuberculosis! Yeah excellent comment though!!!
@@HonRevPTB I thought he caught it from his mother.
@@MsAppassionata Everything I've read said he'd caught it from a patient, his mother did have it and they were very close!
Y'all picked up on stuff I never really picked up on before, like " I just wanted to let you know it's over" and even the dog talking about the normal life I always loved that line but for some reason when you said it it really clarified it for me. Thanks epic reaction
Basically everything you saw was events which actually happened. The shot out in the river between Wyatt and Curly Bill actually took place also. It was a crazy time but it happened.
Glad you reacted to the film. It is one of my favorite films.
Y'all be safe.
8:46 The guy who was shot in the ear is played by veteran western actor Buck Taylor. Buck Taylor famously played the character Newley on the classic tv western Gunsmoke. Taylor is still alive today and recently guest starred on the neo western drama Yellowstone with Kevin Costner. As many have said already Costner did his own movie version of the Wyatt Earp story called Wyatt Earp.
Gunsmoke is one of the oldest running western in broadcast media history. It originally stated as a radio show in 1951 but a tv version launched in 1955. It told the story of a fictional law man named Marshall Matt Dillon. The show ran for 20 seasons on the CBS network ending in 1975. As a young boy I watched the last few seasons of Gunsmoke with my family in first run.
Thank you for watching this movie and like another commenter mentioned you to do seem to understand the story behind the movies behind each character you two are awesome. Hope you two had a good Thanksgiving.
This is one of the most accurate movies about Wyatt Earp. But there was another slightly more accurate to history that came out the same year. It is Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner and is very good. But no one has yet come close to Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday in this movie. Val really stole the show here.
It's always cool to see Paxton and Biehn in the same film. Terminator, Aliens, Tombstone, Lords of Discipline and Navy SEALs. 😁
I wonder if they are all friends offscreen.
@@MsAppassionata Biehn had some nice things to say about Bill:
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There’s a few interviews with Biehn on UA-cam, including a recent one with Michael Rosenbaum (played Lex Luther in the smallville tv series) where he talks about his experiences on all his movies, and interactions with other actors and directors, including this one.
Everyone loves Doc and hates to see him go. A true friend. 😢 Val Kilmer was excellent.
Greetings from Finland girls!!! Great choice!!! When Doc says i got two guns one for each of you.. He spinned the guns opposite directions.. If you girls didn't notice that??? "i'll be back" 😎
Everybody needs that one ride-or-die friend like Doc.Few of us ever get one.
I don't believe, if my memory serves, that Wyatt & Mattie were actually married. Mattie became Wyatt's common-law wife at some point after Wyatt's first wife died. Mattie was a prostitue & drifter, making her way to Dodge City where she & Wyatt met.
I thought according to the original script she had originally died in the movie but it was cut from the final release.
True. common law husband and wife.
Wyatt's wife is a drug addict. Laudanum is opium base mixed with alcohol. One of those old cure all medicines they used back at that time. Doc Holliday is suffering tuberculosis which he's had for many years. The dry desert climate has kept him alive this far. Doc is just living his life as he sees fit because he knows the disease will eventually kill him. This is a good movie based on some actual events. I'm more into the older Westerns but this movie and Unforgiven are some of the best modern Westerns. You should give Unforgiven a viewing, it star Clint Eastwood and Morgan Freeman
When he looks at his feet and says "I'll be damned, this is funny" Doc always thought he'd die with his boots on
The first scene with Doc wasn't a robbery, the money he took were the stakes of the poker game they were playing (i.e. what all of the chips were worth)
The old rancher played by Charlton Heston
Also known as Ben hur
And also in the movie soilent green.
Many other movies in harms way.
I would love to see you two watch Dances With Wolves.
This movie is so inspiring, my former punk bandmates and I made a song out of it appropriately titled Tombstone, the sound is punktry, punk country
35:02 I've watched a lot of reactions for this movie and you girls are the only ones to ever notice that reference back to the beginning of the movie. Great job 👍.
Wyatt and Maddie were never married…they just lived together and she was an addict (to laudanum) like opium. The Ok Corral shooting really happened and the part on the creek with Wyatt killing Curly Bill. Wyatt was shot at but not hit. Doc had Tuberculosis so he died young. He was a great gunslinger. Val Kilmer (Doc) and Kurt Russell (Wyatt) were great. Doc had been a dentist, that’s why they called him Doc.
Very emotional reaction by the two of you and good observation that it doidn't have to be this way between these men. Good appreciation of the characters who were real and legrendary in life. One of the most watchable Westerns ever made.
So glad you girls liked this. Btw Doc is everyone's favorite. 👍🏻
I never see new reactions to ‘tombstone’. Great reaction!
Hey guys I absolutely loved your reaction to this!!!!!!! Doc Holliday is one of the most beloved characters of the old West, he was the fastest gun and because he was highly intelligent and very well educated he naturally was very adept at playing cards which is all math!!! He was also very good looking and Val Kilmer was the perfect actor to portray him as they look similar and Val is one of the greatest actors of all time!!!!!!! Please check out another movie of his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Robert Downey Jr.
You two absolutely compliment each other
I just moved out to Arizona in September and Tombstone is about 6 hours from me now, I definitely want to go there sooner than later.
My favorite All Time movie.! I have it on DVD that I actually bought at a gift store right next to The OK Corral when I went to Tombstone Arizona and toured the town and Boot Hill the graveyard one summer while on vacation.
One of my favorite movies, and based on real people and real events. The gunfight at the OK Corral is one of the most famous gunfights of the old American west, and Tombstone, Arizona, alas...It did not grow to be as big and sophisticated as San Francisco, but the town did preserve it's history very well and it's worth visiting.
Another great western is Open Range. With Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall.
Thanks for another great video, and the chance to watch it with you. Very enjoyable! Again, thanks!
25:38 Ah, you nailed it with Kate, Docs woman. He was not the kind of man to take it easy to get a few more months of misery. She never treated him like he was sick, when she heard the doctor tell him he didn’t have much time and she wasn’t going to let that bring him down. The way I see it, she was a pillar of strength to love and support Doc that way. At least, that’s what I think.
Everyone should be so lucky to have a friend as good as Doc was.
"it's a wonderful life" Best Christmas movie of all time!
Doc learned card counting from the housekeeper, who lived with the Hollidays. She taught him all the tricks of gambling. Some also said he had a photographic memory. She was a freed slave. I dont know whether anyone has discussed it, but Laudanum is a tincture of opium. Drug abuse was also a big problem in the old west. How things have changed. The guy who grabbed the gun barrel and stuck it in his mouth thought he had an opium pipe. Also, Curley Bill had just come out of a Chinese opium den when he started to shoot up the town. Tombstone is still there. Its really geared to tourists but still a great visit. Good reaction.
I'm starting to wonder just how much Dr. Reid from Criminal Minds might have actually been based on Doc. Even the effing laudanum made an appearance, which is ABSURD for a show in the 21st century.
It is an absolute sin that Val Kilmer did not receive a academy award for this role. He absolutely steals the show. Everybody in this movie was great, but he was amazing. His death at the end always gets me a little choked up.
I like that they both recognize that Doc Holiday is the one. lmao
Doc was Wyatt's ' Ride or Die ' for real, OMG!!!
It is a great movie. I saw it in the theater with my wife in 1994. Thank you for your reaction.
This is 1 of the few western movies I like.
Young Guns 1 & 2 are also good movies.
I love this movie so much and I typically hate westerns, so it’s saying a lot just how much I like this movie. Val Kilmers portrayal of Doc Holiday is my favorite, I love all the great lines and the acting, it’s perfect for the character.
One of the interesting little details I liked about this movie is that they don't shy away from depicting (albeit in a very abstract manner) homosexual relationships between men in the old West.
It's actually handled in a very realistic way, too - gay men in that part of the world certainly weren't 'accepted' in any sense of the word but they weren't apt to be hassled by any of their peers, either. Most men in those days had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, not because they were tolerant but because everybody carried a gun. In that kind of a lawless environment, it was a really bad idea to confront anyone over ANYTHING so if people had a problem with homosexuality, they more or less had to learn to keep it to themselves... Or get really good at dodging bullets.
Doc Holliday was born in Georgia. He later became a dentist when he contracted tuberculosis. He went out west for the drier climate. The thinking was it would help with his illness.
Kurt Russel is such a fan of Wyatt Earp he named his son Wyatt. They are both on some godzilla series on apple tv.
"In town" in this case means the very center main street. Like he's literally just saying "don't bring a gun on to this one street."
Ive been to Doc Hollidays grave. Ive also seen Wyatt and Josephine's house in California. This is the BEST american story ever!
Thank you for a great reaction.
"I'm your huckleberry" How/Why is this one of the coldest lines ever delivered in a movie?
I loved watching you ladies react to this move. More please.
I watch “first time watching Tombstone” videos like theyre medicine, and I gotta say you guys probably have the driest most nonexistent commentary yet
That was fun watching this movie with you guys.
Cool thing is most of that live really happened and Wyatt Earp lived until like 1929, died pretty recently in the grand scheme of things
One of Doc Holiday's famous quotes was that he swore to die with his "boots on". At the end he is amazed that he doesn't. He doesn't see a light or anything, he just thinks his "Hypocrisy knows no bounds" when he dies with his boots off.
The whole country used to have a law called Mutual Combat. It means that both parties agreed to fight. Therefore no law was broken. Most states in the south still have it.
Epic reaction!!!
Can’t wait to watch with y’all! Your video list is awesome. Can’t wait to see more!! 😊❤ BTW this is one of my Favs
When Doc says "This is funny" while looking at his feet, he's responding to the fact that gunslingers or cowboys were supposed to die with their boots on. He was a gunslinger. it's funny to him that he died with his boots off after living the life he lived.
Great reaction girls! Jyn you are gorgeous ❤
Val Kilmer performance was legendary.
I love this movie.
I saw it every weekend on its theatrical run.
Here's a classic for you also based on actual events.
ZULU (1964 introducing Michael Caine) a British Military Action where more VC's were awarded than in any other action before or since.
Doc is a legend .... this movie is one if the most accurate historical movies.... they obviously how to delete some stuff out because it was had to be 2 hours or something...... after the gun fight at the okay Corral they were actually all arrested and put on trial for murder but Wyatt Earp and his brothers and Doc were all acquitted....... and then that's when they went on the Rampage and killed all the Cowboys
TOMBSTONE is probably the most entertaining western ever made.
The river scene where walks out one of the guys survived in real life before dying later and said how that part was real. He walked out and none of the bullets hit him.