Soundcraft SI Expression 1 mixer training part three
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- The third and final part in a series of training videos featuring the Soundcraft Si Expression 1 digital mixing console.
This training session was conducted for a church that was transitioning from a Yamaha MG series analog mixer to the Soundcraft Si Expression. I took the opportunity to compare the two mixers and demonstrate the similarities and differences - as a result this training has a slightly different flavour to the series I have uploaded in the past which just featured the new mixer.
I hope that this series will give those who are considering making the switch to digital mixing a good idea of the similarities and differences between the two types of consoles.
Bookmarks for video:
00:00 Compressor section
05:27 Compressor + Gate combined
07:25 Further discussion on compression
10:36 Mute Groups
13:17 Effects Engines
20:08 Loading shows & integration with digital stagebox/snake
Camera: Cho Wen Jing
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Best teacher for me i understood Gate/Compression Very Clearly now
Glad the video was helpful :)
Even if I cannot afford this fancy mixer, most of what you are explaining is valid for the stuff I am looking at. Thanks.
Good explanation. Part of my job is also dealing with a bunch of SI Expression mixers so knowing how to configure them correctly is great.
Thanks for watching!
Please make the more parts please
Just picked up the 16 during the lockdown, so I've a bit of time to familiarise self with the desk, and I have to say your videos are extremely helpful. You are a wonderful tutor. Stay safe!
Glad to hear that, thanks for watching!
Glb productions tutor gives a clear cut views to all parameters in digital console and easy to learn. Thanks a lot Sir. Hearing to have more from you.
Thanks for watching Jacob!
Thank you Gentlemen... Your training session helped me a lot no words to describe.... God bless you abundantly
Great video series. Thanks so much
You're welcome Ian!
Thank u sir for giving me this very important andusefull information and your teaching technic is excellent.. One again thank u and keep update us
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Thank you very much! Very useful information
Really well done. Great job.
Thanks for watching Nate!
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You're welcome :)
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Thank you Sir..
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You're welcome, thanks for watching!
I have seen your training video for the QU-32.... from your experience with both what are the pros and cons between the two boards?
Thank you very..very much
You're welcome David.
Bruno brother which is better si impact or si expression?
Plz try to give yamaha mgp24x/32x mixing console tutorial.
The SI Impact has more inputs and features but is only available in one frame size, so pick the one which suits your needs.
I've also found compression helps the sound of electric guitar, when the distortion sound being used by the guitarist is too aggressive. A moderate ratio compression at lower threshold helps take the edge off.
Yes, a small amount of compression will often benefit just about any source in live sound. Talking to the guitarist can also help ;)
Very helpful! God Bless
You're welcome 😄
Thank you so much. I have learned a lot from you.
I have a question, can you assign multiple effects/FX into 1 channel? for example, you have assigned a Vocal plate fx on channel 1, can you assign a Delay fx too on the same channel so it has multiple FX?
Yes it is - if I recall this mixer has four effects engines, so you can have up to four different effects on a single channel.
Very good lesson, I'm new in digital mixers, my expression is 3 fader L&R glow light is red in all times, channel 1 is always on, even if the on bottom & master volume & L&R is off, also only one channel sounds (15 or 16, not sure witch one), the other one does heard like equalized and has low volume, I bought the mixer used, do you recommended to do a factory reset? Please, help me. Thank you.
It sounds like your mixer needs to be serviced - I would take it back to soundcraft.
Hi! Thank you for your Videos Training. And I want to know how to assign group band and group vocal on the this console (Soundcraft SI Expression). So, Could you please show me more Videos training about that. Please.
Hi sir. We have an expression 3 in our church and this training really helps. but can you teach how to use the matrix ouputs? as well as explaining the difference between the prefader vs postfader sends that are both present in the aux mix?
Thanks for the suggestions, glad the videos were helpful :)
How does input routing work when you have the 32 channel mixer with a 32 input stage box as well? How do you link the 64 channels to the faders would it be through the sub groups?
Sorry I've never used that combination of mixer and stagebox before - I suggest you get in touch with soundcraft.
How to set effect in mix???
i jut stumbled on ur channel and found this so useful. i learnt some of ur quick tips while using the same mixer. however, i need to ask as i couldn't find contents on using a cardriod condenser mic.. we are using out own mic apart from the pre sets which i believe is for the dynamic mic.. so now i can't get the mixer to max the output of condenser which i want it to be covering more thsan 250degree directional sound as i have 3 choristers on 1 mic.. how do i work this on the above mixer? i use a simple zoom mixer so never had such a problem
The maximum amount of Gain Before Feedback available in any given venue is dependent on many factors, not just the mixer itself.
will there be an extension of these series? not all of the functions are viewed.
Nope that's it for now. Yes there are many MANY features that we didn't cover as this was only a basic course for church volunteers - if you want to learn more you should take a pro level course from a soundcraft distributor :)
I am set effect in LR but not work in mix can u help me set effect in 14 mix
I like your sound lesson, Please Boss will get some lesson on si expression 3 how to use the A B C D and fader graphic equalizer GEQ HI and LOW
Thanks Isaac - how to use the fader layers is covered in the first video.
Goodmorining Boss
Please thanks for the lesson, I'm looking forward for a new video lesson
GLB, excellent and timely series. Our church is just transitioning to an Si 3. I'm going to get all our sound guys to watch this! One question, I have skimmed thru all 3 vids looking for how to send the L/R mix to a LiveStream switcher/encoder. I think that MTX is probably the way to go and indeed have got the L/R assigned (not sure how I did it) to a couple of outputs on MTX1 but the output level is a bit too hot. Can you advise how to trim it a little? (And, indeed if this is the way to go? - I looked round the back for the usual tape out co-axes - nothing of course!) Blessings to you - great job.
Hello Patrick, thanks for the comment! Yes using a matrix would be the easiest way to create a copy of the LR mix. If the level is too hot just bring down the relevant matrix master (on layer D) 6-10dB, depending on how much the signal needs to be reduced :) Hope your team is getting to know the new mixer well!
Sorry to be so thick (I only get to see the mixer on Sundays pre-service) but how do I identify the matrix master? Is that one of the two "master faders" bottom right? The L/R and Mono ones? I'm guessing it would be glowing yellow?
That's right - when you're in bus mode with the relevant matrix send button on the top row depressed it will be the MONO/SEL fader on the extreme right hand side, glowing orange not yellow. However when you are in mix mode on layer D, it will be one of four matrix masters that are glowing orange. The L&R fader is always for L&R and is not included in the faderglow system.
Do you have any videos or suggestions where I can find instructions on using the MADI-USB to send and receive audio from a mac? Audio out for computer sound to house and audio in to mix and send for live stream.
I'm afraid I don't, but I'm sure that your local soundcraft distributor will be able to help you with this.
I too have a question re: feedback and compression. 99 per cent of the time when you hear feedback it is coming through the monitors .. Like someone dropping a mic down too close to the speakers. We never had a problem with feedback in the monitors in our band until the sound man would try to compress the vocalist. Is there something about the signal path in a mixer that could cause this? He would compress by inserting on the vocal channel.
Definitely sounds like a case of too much make up gain. Look at the compressor he is using and look for a knob labelled 'gain' - it should be set at 0dB (ie no make up gain) and the gain should be made up using the console fader. Recording engineers use the gain knob on the compressor because they do not have to deal with mics and speakers in the same space, but in live sound we need to handle this a bit differently.
Thank you so much for this live sound tip ... Awesome and it makes perfect sense .. You are by far the best instructor re: audio I've found on UA-cam ...
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I know this is old but it may help someone out... It also sounds like the "Sent" to the stage monitors is being sent "Post Fade" or "Post Eq"... If you change it to "Pre Dyn (Dynamics)" it shouldn't affect the monitors.
When you save and load a show, what exactly is getting loaded and saved? The user guide says "The Show contains all console settings, plus the Cuelist."
My issue is that it appears that the sound settings (gains, gate, comp, eq, etc.) are not saved or recalled when saving or loading a Show. We have multiple sound booth operators at our church, and it drives me crazy when some people mess with some of these settings. How do I get back to my same EXACT settings for the entire console? I'm wondering if this is part of the Cue list (which I haven't learned yet...)???
A show saves a snapshot of the entire mixer, including all the channel and fader settings. If your mixer is not working this way something is wrong - either there's a fault with the board or you are not doing the saving and recalling process correctly.
The other "sound booth operators" have been saving (overwriting) your console settings.
We are using si impact, i just want to ask if it is advisable to use the post fader as the output for our live stream audio? We are currently using pre fader
In general a livestream would use a post-fade aux send so that the balance of the livestream audio tracks your live fader movements.
@@GLBProductions thank you for being responsive even if this video was years ago, i would try it on sunday thank you
You're welcome, all the best with your livestream :)
sir is it safe to mix digital mixer and digital speaker management system?
Yes it is perfectly safe.
hi Sir, may i know how to connect the mixer to computer for zoom(video conference software?
and how do i use 1 mic to output to the speaker and to the computer?
thanks a million!
I'm afraid I don't know how to do that on this particular mixer - suggest you speak to your local soundcraft distributor :)
@@GLBProductions sure, thanks Mr Bruno, your videos helped me a lot!
Do you try rec out from that mixer
I have not tried that personally.
@@GLBProductions can you made test?
Will compression make feedback better or worse?
It can make it worse. If there is a small amount of feedback, the compression will bring it up, more or less amplifying (probably poor choice of vocab) the feedback. However, I'm not quite sure it can make it better, other than maybe allowing you to reduce the gain. Hopefully someone comes by with a little more knowledge answers that part.
That's a great question, thanks for asking.
Compression by itself will not cause feedback. If a mic is feeding back without compression, adding compression can sometimes prevent the feedback by reducing the signal below the point at which it begins to feed back - this is particularly true when you're using a high ratio and/or low threshold.
Caleb remember that compression does NOT make a signal louder - it reduces the signal's dynamic range in accordance with the threshold and ratio settings as explained in the video. What DOES make the signal louder is the process of make up gain - most rackmount compressors have a gain knob, or it can be done using the channel fader. This is where you 'add back' the gain reduction that the compressor caused, effectively raising the average level of the signal. This can cause feedback when the compressor is not active, because it is still gain, and gain is ultimately what causes feedback.
Looks like I'll have to do a video on this topic too ;)
My reason for asking is I'm a mix engineer bt Ive been doing a lot of Live work recently, and takling feed back with gain staging. Im thinking the best way to handle feedback with a dynamic processor is a Gate right? Just catch the feedback when its low and Gate it out? Then maybe compress afterwards if a compressor is needed.... What do you think? Great videos by the way! Thanks
Dealing with feedback begins with minimising the amount of system gain needed ie make sure the source is as close to the mic as possible. After that work on physical solutions such as speaker/mic positioning, using directional mics etc. You should be able to get the mic to be feedback free without the use of a gate/compressor - these then act as backups in case things change during the show, which they always do ;)
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