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Do Powerful Force Users Even Need Lightsabers?
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- If you can just blast people in the face with sith lightning then why do you even need a lightsaber?
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Palpatine: No need for Lightsabers when you have UNLIMITED POWER!!!
Unlimited power is insignificant next to the power of UNLIMITED PAOWAH!
unlimited power pales to the true power of the dark side
was about to like this before i saw it had order number 66 likes
@@supremechancellorpalpatine194 o god you’re here
@@JACCO20082012 what if the true power of the dark side was unlimited power
Force sensitives get tired too. Using the force at all time is exhausting.
Baby yoda showed us that in the Mandalorian. He gets so tuckered out when he uses his force abiltiies.
@@MarcusDarkstar he need some milk!
They use the force when using their lightsaber to predict on how to deflect laser bolts.
But ik what you mean
Unless you have
UNLIMITED POWAHHH
Fun fact: According to the MMO you can even use the Force in the bedroom to "heighten one's sensations"😎
How about an orgasm that lasts a full minute🤔
Light sabers aren't just weapons but tools. The light saber, regardless of the wielder being a Jedi or Sith, allows for the conservation of the force within. Obviously using things like lightning, push, telekeniesis, etc all drains a force user of useable concentrated force abilities not unlike Mana in many fantasy games.
6:37 in season 1 of the clone wars, yoda disarms ventress and just mocks her
Palpatine: “Meh!” Yoda: “Need a lightsaber I do not.”
Short answer: yes. All the their adversaries need is a sufficient force wall, not an impenetrable one.
I wish they would just outright state this in a movie so more casual fans understand why they can't just constantly use the force on each other.
Sidious was so confident about his unlimited power that he electrocuted his master to death instead of just stabbing him with his lightsaber.
His master was also drunk passed out. Like the way you left that out. As powerful as he was, sidious knew he couldn’t kill his master under normal conditions.
@@greattribulation1388 some said he actually let Sidious kill him but not sure if that's true
@@azunkor422 he didn’t necessarily let him kill him, he was so confident that sidious couldn’t harm him through the force that he didn’t resist.
He was drunk?
@@BullShitThat yeah it was in the novel, they had just won the chancellorship. So sidious convinced him to celebrate and he got him drunk
Even a powerful force user needs to pace himself when fighting off multiple opponents, and while Force Lightning can take out a lot of weaker enemies at once, wielding a lightsaber against someone who doesn't have appropriate defenses (Beskar Armor, Cortosis enforced vibroblade, Light saber) is basically an effortless dispatch even for someone with little experience wielding it
As a symbol of power, and prestige. Also as back up because you never know when something fails you
I always figured it was as much religious tradition as anything. I think a Jedi would be much more deadly combining their force abilities with being more equipped like a Mandalorian. Badass armor and tons of firepower. But I think having so much aggressive offensive capabilities and AOE damage goes against the Jedi teachings of self desipline. For the Sith, maybe they just use the lightsaber because of Sith traditionalism? Thats the in universe answer anyways. The out of universe answer is that people just like to see laser sword fights.
I think it can also be an intimidation. Not many people want to fight a sword that melts pretty much everything.
The Sith use lightsabers to mock the Jedi by killing with their own symbol.
True. A light saber used in con junction with the force . Especially when an adversary comes at you light a charging Bull .
Light side users can use lightsaber throw. Yoda in ROTS killed a clone using it
I think anyone can use the force to throw their lightsaber.
@@zachlangable Yeah, Vader did it too in Return of the Jedi.
@@danielduncan6806 yes because he learned his lesson on Mustafar not to mess with the HIGHGROUND
I love Darth Sidious's thoughts about lightsabers. He believed himself above them and only used them to mock the jedi.
Man my heart dropped when you said my name at the beginning of the video, but I guess my name is that popular.
Old Sheevster getting tossed into his chair, ass up always kills me!!! XD
You’re telling me that you DON’T want a cool-ass plasma sword?! Are you feeling well?
I think people also forget that unless you’re Yoda or mace windu, it actually takes a lot of concentration in the middle of of battle even use the force.
I was chatting to a friend about this exact subject a while ago. I would have liked to have seen Yoda and Sidius have a full on force fight. No sabers. Two full on space wizards going at it. Same with when Mace Windu tries to arrest Papltine. Pappy should have used lots of exotic force powers and drubbed the lot of them. I always imagine Yoda to be so powerful that say he encountered a room full of rowdy brawling arguing padawans he could freeze the lot with a wave of his hand.
@The Journey Is Yoda's stick better than bacon?
I wonder what other kind of small arms you could make with kyber crystals? I can't help but imagine an army armed with kyber-powered blasters, possibly even military vehicles, aircraft and starships.
Short answer: Yes. They look cool. The mostly visual media they inhabit require looking cool.
I think Darth Maul's last appearance in the clone wars was also an example of why a dark side user isn't as reliant on a light saber as opposed to the jedi, when Ahsoka let him go at the advent of order 66, he single handedly slaughtered squadrons of clone troopers that got in his way and crashed the Venator using only telekinesis and his martial arts skills
Against weaker Force users one can certainly get away with using only the Force. But against a powerful Jedi one has to defend one's self. And even then, the Force is a powerful complement to excellent blade work as amply demonstrated by Dooku.
In Kotor 2, Kreia uses three lightsabers simultaneously with the force. In one of the legends books, Jacen and Jania Solo use the force to compress air enough to make it luminesce. I always thought that it would be super cool if you could just have a naked kyber crystal and make a simulacrum lightsaber body with the force.
What if Anakin liked sand? 🤔🤔
There is an actual video going over this topic
Go check out star wars theorys vid on that, its hilarious as fk
When I was a kid I would imagine that I had my own order of force users and we wouldn’t use lightsabers just throw people around with the force lmao
Yes and no, the Lightsabers are an extension of the Force Users strength.
I like that idea, but wouldn't Yoda's light saber be longer?
Sam Schott more so what they can do with the lightsaber is indicative of how powerful in the force they are
@@SamSchott1 size matters not.
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 Matters not size*
Lightsabers are also very good opening things like if you want to go to the red light and see that one girl in all the posters but Yoda is watching just make a new door way as you go along so no one will see you enter or leave
May the force be with you
I think of it more as it's the best weapon to fit their inert ability to be tuned in to everything, anything else would have so much input lag it would inhibit their abilities, and it also of course is energy efficient for their force wells
I wish you would do a video on star destroyers or capital ships or frigates even with different weapons than turbo lasers. Maybe replace the 20 turbo lasers and 20 ion cannons with 6 self propelled heavy artillery cannons..? Like when anikan did with his venators but all over the ship and not just one on the bottom hanger
All the time I’m like I would love to see a story made into a movie about a powerful force user and their story and they don’t have a lightsaber. Like mauls hallway scene is really cool.
This is by far my favorite video... I’ve laughed till I cried😂 love it
Cool video. Would've been nice to see a reference to Jedi Master Fay, a Legends Jedi female human who never used a lightsaber or even was seen carrying one.
I would wager that they do, because there's nothing like getting your insides flash cooked with a stabby stabby.
Actually Sidious was wearing a Sith mask thingy that got destroyed and reveled how he really looked like.
Edit:
I prefer Star Wars: The Clone War (2003) the 2D animated series and Star wars: The Force Unleashed as references on how force users fought and way the force worked. Anyone else agreeing with me? The 3D series are nice and all but I would like to see@d animation again in Star wars. And I know about that Galaxy anime, but I meant episode long not shorts.
Can you do a video about showing the similarities between Jedi and Daoism, please?
@The Journey I thought Lucas originally designed the Jedi after the Samurai? While Daoism has had many influences on the Zen Buddhism most samurai practiced, they are different approaches I think we can actually see reflected in the characters.
Obi-wan would be more of a Zen type, seeking to understand the force through silent meditation and rigorous training, I can see him reciting Koan's very easily, while someone like Kit-fisto would be more Daoist. Happy-go-lucky, artistic, humorous, and more concerned with the "Flow" of the force than a kind of spiritual connection...
George did 6 movies and the Jedi of the prequels seem to me more dogmatic than moral absolutist, too Zen serious and not enough Tao humorous...but they'll still use mind tricks and deception, I'd say they had become very rigid in the dichotomy of force energy, it's light or dark and never the two shall meet, not very Daoist or Zen and it does give me that religious crusader "Good and evil" vibe so you're not wrong...also when Lucas made the original trilogy, Japanese and eastern culture in general was not nearly as prevalent and was still kind of seen as a novelty up until the anime boom of the late 80-90's. (See, The Vapors - Turning Japanese and Aneka - Japanese Boy, hell I'll throw in a Blue Oyster Cult - Godzilla) So a bit of westernizing I'm sure occurred...Just my 2 cents...
Lol imagine a dark side force user going straight... It’s like “I’d like to help power peoples’ homes... I can also shoot lightning from the tips of my fingers, so I can provide the electricity to charge batteries.”
Lol, sounds like a new business venture for Darth Vectivus. :D
Also what if Anakins mother survived in episode 2? Would she be able to bring him back to the light? Would she stay with him in the temple? Would he be able to see her? I think this would make a cool video
How bout a video on whether or not Jango Fett could fight Mace Windo without outside interference screwing him over like in Episode 2.
One of the most powerful Jedi , when the emperors escape methods are unknown for fear a new uprising perhaps. Would be interesting to see an older Organa in battlefront.
Darth Nox from swtor doesn't think lightsabers are necessary. He just goes around zapping everyone to death.
6:55, Oddly enough, in The Clone Wars, Dooku is shown in a situation where he behaves as though even his power can save him when he is surrounded by Hondo Onakas pirates on Florrum, despite initially preparing to use Force Lightning (though an argument can be made he could also be prepared to use Telekinesis or Energy Negation, or rather “Tutaminis”/Force Deflection, though he’s not demonstrated being strong enough to perform such a feat to the same degree of ease as someone like Yoda or Vader) against them. He ultimately surrenders and is imprisoned due to the sheer amount of blasters being aimed him from multiple angles, meaning he seemed at though he was not confident in his ability to repel or contend with that many people at once alone, at least not without major risk that one of their bolts wouldn’t successfully hit him or without exhausting himself by utilizing his power for such significant tasks and then being struck down by the remaining pirates.
On a practical level, Force Users are usually portrayed as requiring varying degrees of focus effort to use their powers depending on their natural potential and talent with the Force and their mental and emotional state as well as their willpower. At various points, these individuals are shown straining or distracted when performing significant enough tasks with the Force alone, such as Yoda slowing down and then gradually moving a collapsed column away from a defeated Anakin and Obi-Wan or Obi-Wan charging up a telekinetic shove with a loud grunt of pain as if exerting himself physically in a strenuous manner before releasing it at General Grevious to launch him into a high ceiling. Clone Wars, Rebels and even the sequel trilogy each have similar instances of such limitations, with a notable reoccurring example being Ahsoka, the Seventh Sister, and Rey each psionically holding onto escaping ships and ending up either being unable to perform any other task in the meantime or straight up being pulled towards the ships as if they are tethered to them by invisible fields of force that they are generating from their bodies, a plausible explanation for the use of gestures being such fields being generated by or channeled through the user’s hands, which would reasonably explain why both “Force Push”, a technique that can sometimes be so imprecise and indiscriminate that it can visibly displace air and other objects around it like a shockwave, and “Force Lightning” each come from the hand.)
Generally, it seems a lot easier and more reliable for these characters to channel the Force into amplifying their physical capabilities as it would require less intense concentration and effort, especially in terms of their telekinetic abilities (which permitting a Force User possesses enough power, would still require a good imagination (which is another reason for their use of gestures), mental and emotional focus as well as proper understanding of their environment and target to use effectively and precisely if the user wouldn’t want to cause unintended effects, especially collateral damage, something that can be difficult to do in particularly intense situations like combat)…telepathic abilities (which mainly work on the weakest of minds and wills and threaten to cause damage to those who resist if enough effort is put into trying affect or interact with them)….and their extra-sensory abilities (which could threaten to disrupt a user’s perception of their surroundings if their attention is drawn elsewhere, leaving them open to incoming dangers as they are busy trying to analyze and comprehend what they are sensing).
As such, the use of physical capabilities as well as melee combat and weapons appears to be a relatively safer and more readily available alternative to using the Force alone unless one is in the highest of tiers, such as Palpatine or Yoda, who have not just high levels of power, but the skill, focus, and willpower to use them the most effectively.
The lightsaber just makes them look cool
Not as clumsy or random as a blaster
My comment above I made before scrolling down to see yours. You beat me to it!
What i really want to see is the walkers and star destroyers and TIE's of the Galactic empire Versus the Full might of the CIS.
Welcome back to another episode of Allan, my name is Generation Tech.
Also a good crystal in your saber can help your force abilities
Could you do Galactic Marines vs US Marines?
Refusing to carry a lightsaber out of arrogance is a bad idea for any force user, given how hostile the galaxy can be.
I prefer a trusty blaster myself.
I mean, what with TLJ, apparently lightsabers can be manifested through the Force, but only once.
I've been thinking about this for like...20+ years at least
I have a good question: how do non-force users make their cable shooters (projectiles that only have forward momentum) to wrap around a target or object?
Palpatine had a lightsaber. And he was inarguably one of the most, if not _the_ most powerful dark side users in the entire history of force(light and dark) users.
Honest before Darth Maul pulled out his light saber, I just figured Vader used one because he was a fallen Jedi...
Human are tool users, event with incredible supernatural powers, any tool humanized the user, that's why I think the jedi use it, the lightsaber makes the jedi more down to earth for others.
The sith probable just like to shop people up
With the jedi believing the sith being extinct, I'm not even sure why much training would be given to lightsaber to lightsaber combat. The only scenario where you'd end up in a fight is with a fallen Jedi, who only would be as a good as instructed.
Imagine a Force Ability that could stop time for a few seconds. It would be pretty deadly in combat.
You have that power. Just hit PAUSE. You're welcome. :-)
@Christian Ball Rather than stop the entire universe around you, it’s easier to speed yourself up.
@Christian Ball And also with you
If they're so powerful they need Heavysabers
Also lightsabers don't need focus, you can use them a lot quicker than you can use the force. This is how grevious was able to kill Jedi
Canon says they do require a certain degree of focus to be used to their maximum efficiency. Jedi also use them as a catalyst to help connect with the Force, so when they do not have them, they may be slightly off balance and less effective than normal.
The Grey Jedi have 2 sub-groups who only use the force (ditched the lightsabers) with only one using it offensively but to great effect.
Duke Dirtfarmer couldnt be the last Laser Master without one! Of course they need Lightsabers!
Force telekinesis can be deadly if you use it to throw a sharp or heavy object.
It would be interesting if we got to see a mature Grogu wield a lightsaber 🤔
@@bigredwolf6 that would be epic 😎 Maybe he could become the second mandalorian-Jedi !
Hey Allen quick video idea. I’d force users were real in our world what would be the ethical reservations our society would have about letting compete in professional sports and would they be required to enlist in our armed forces due to their invaluable status in battle?
In my professional opinion: Even if you no longer need a Lightsaber in most situations, it still doesn’t hurt to have one nearby, if not just because they’re cool as fuck.
Why no personal deflector shields? The tech is there.
Shield Generators are all the place in Star Wars, wdym?
He means those personal energy shields, like the ones the mandalorians have on their wrists
@@adama9300 also no. He's talking about body force fields like in Dune. I believe they were a thing in star wars a looong time ago, dont know why they lost popularity.
@@B1ackxUnicornxyooooo thats what i was thinking. I dont think they exist in star wars tho. Dune is amazing tho
@@Reflection554 They do, they existed in some old star wars settings...tis what I said. Jedi I believe had them at one point but honestly, I think one of the biggest issues was the radiation given off by wearing a full on force field, at least in the star wars setting.
If not for the combat aspects, it'd still be am amazing tool to have in general. Make your own entrance tool. Melt important things tool. Shut down a civilian argument tool. It's got practical applications!
Well, I mean if they know how to absorb blaster-fire, force crush, and force pull/push I think they’re pretty much set. Battle against other lightsaber users might be a little tougher though...
I mean, if we're arguing practicality, the primary weapon of a force user should be a compact fast firing slug thrower. A lightsaber ain't gonna do shit against an uzi as long as the bullets aren't coming in a straight line. Sheev was right that he didn't need lightsabers. His mistake was that he believed it was because of his super force abilities instead of the fact that there are simply better offensive weapons in existence.
Though I would say that keeping a lightsaber around for utility would still have been a good idea. Never know when you're going to need to cut something in half.
7:12 I didn't know Palps was a Jedi...
Super useful for cutting bread. Toasts as you cut.
Unpopular opinion: I believe Alan is a Sith Lord....he knows the ways of the dark side...
Jedi Padawan in the galaxy needs lightsaber ? Most Definitely ! Sith Master in Kotor 1 and 2 needs lightsaber ? Fuck No ! 😎
Could you cover the mc80 in the ten flaws series?
Won't ever do Facebook. EVER. I liked your explanation of this, but I'd be way more afraid of a Force user that didn't carry a weapon, than one who did. Both Yoda and Sideous were excellent Force users that showed no weapon; Dooku when challenged by Yoda fled when lightsabers weren't useful.
A Jedi might not NEED to use some other weapon, but it would at least be prudent. You may have to loan your blaster to an unarmed ally. Or to avoid screaming, "Jedi!" in some settings by using an enemy weapon. A thinking, powerful Jedi will live longer than one who is just powerful.
Well, Snouke was quite effective in disarming Rey but still failed. To be honest, his telekinesis looked even more powerful than lightning of Palpatine.
I got through the force unleashed games several times using mostly sith lightning lol
It's both a weapon and status symbol.
Maul after order 66 did very well for himself without a lightsaber
all the kyber crystals in the world? good thing theres other worlds =P haha pretty sure you meant galaxy there @1:19
“Redundant defensive moves”...I just re-thought life. I’ve been a fool for so long. I don’t even have a single move, better start on it!
How did the Jedi discover that they can deflect blaster bolts with a lightsaber?
Lightsaber is the backup sidearm. Primary ranged weapon is the Force.
The lightsaber also in tune a Jedi to the Force easier.
This video explains everything really good. It's true that jedi only used lightsabers for blaster deflecting before the return of the sith. You can see this very clearly if you know some rare character stories. For example, when Count Dooku was a jedi padawan and a knight later, Yoda, who was his "master" for some time, saw his fighting style as too aggressive and dangerous to other jedi. Dooku's lightsaber combat style is Makashi, which is most useful when duelling other lightsaber-using individuals. No wonder jedi didn't really understand him - there were no enemies with lightsabers (except dark jedi) for almost 1000 years. Also this explains perfectly why even lot of jedi masters were afraid of Dooku and Grievous - they just weren't prepared for battling real enemies.
Yes at least they need a weapon to protect themselves in case their enemy gets pass their guard and with no weapon at close quarter combat they be killed
Other than that, to defend yourself from a lightsaber there are only 2 ways that I know of: using another lightsaber or Beskar.
If the force, Jedi and sith was real and I was force sensitive and knew about it I would only focus completely on training on the force
Throw Lightsaber is a neutral ability. The Jedi of the Clone Wars don't see themselves as warriors.
The Jedi/Sith skill tree reminds me of when I played Dragon Age back in the day. I played as a mage because why wouldn't you and it was fine but like Jedi you had to work quite a bit more to take people out. So naturally despite everyone constantly saying how evil it was, I got Blood Mage the moment it was available and it was glorious.
Sweet vid man!
0:31 sans lightsaber sans lightsaber
Nihilus didnt........until the Exile gate-crashed his party!
Yes and no , they do not need to use the light saber. The light saber is just a extension that benefit more from a force user using them. As a tool against other force user's , non-force user's and as a tool . It is useful in that roll as a back up weapon if ever need to be use. Also it tool impressive on the screen as a weapon or in fights. In theory base on the era for the jedi/sith that they fight. They can rely on the force and the common weapons of the day such as vibro swords or etc before the proto-light saber was made. Weapons such as the sith warblade or etc were as equally effective agaist force power's use base on how truthful old cannon lore is to be on par as a light saber is a weapon or tool minus what you can with a light saber that a non-energy blade can't do for a force user.
I only watch GenerationTech when Allen is the host.
If you ask me jedi are using lightsabers wrong... Remember how Yondu was using his arrow in the Gotg? Well....just saying jedi can do the same thing.
What if Rey was trained from a youngling at the Jedi temple she is ridiculously powerful for the extremely limited training she received, we were told that Jedi had to be trained from a young age and it took years to begin to use it but in a year of Rey discovering that she had the force she killed the most powerful being in the galaxy so what would happen if she trained from a youngling?
Who is most powerful humanoid robot in statwars
I meaaaan.... if you're trying to avoid using the darkside?
So true
If your opponent is just as strong as you in the force, or just strong enough to resist the worst of your effects, you'll wish you had a sidearm of some sort. I suggest carrying a lightsbaber, and a little holdout slugthrower, even if you are a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Where would Darth Traya fit in this argument?