The Mystery Of The Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine In Southwest America | Myth Hunters
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- The Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine (also known by similar names) is, according to legend, a rich gold mine hidden in the southwestern United States. The location is generally believed to be in the Superstition Mountains, near Apache Junction, east of Phoenix, Arizona. There have been many stories about how to find the mine, and each year people search for the mine. Some have died on the search. This documentary explores one treasure hunter's quest for the gold. Dick Holmes, born in the heart of Arizona's Gold Rush era, embodies the spirit of the Wild West. From his youth fighting Apache warriors to his relentless pursuit of the Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine, Holmes epitomizes grit and determination in the face of danger, greed, and the allure of hidden treasure.
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Love living next to the beautiful Superstition mountains! We have a Lost Dutchman festival every year.
But no balls to go looking for it
@@Midwest10 Troll
That campground is a work of art. People in that area have strong pride in the austere beauty of nature. They keep the narrow winding blacktop clean and smooth like the back of a snake. Sunrise over the Superstitions comes long after first light.
Badass story
I would love to visit there sometime
The Dutchman was actually the former mining engineer for for the Vulture Mine near Wickenburg, Arizona. Local lore has it that the Dutchman embezzled gold from the Vulture Mine, took it with him Traveled to Apache Junction . Stored the gold in a cabin, went into the superstition mountains, pretending to search for gold.. Came back from the superstition mountains, took a gold from his cabin, went to a local assayer declared he found the gold in the superstition mountains, and then came up with the fictional story of finding gold in the superstition mountains. Therefore, there was never any gold in the superstition mountains, discovered by the Dutchman.
Could be since otherwise they would have found it by now.
The geology of the Superstitions also has no gold. This is a fun story, about the lost mine, but it's only a story.
I've never heard that one before! How interesting!
What you call high grading
Then what about the corpse discovered buried with the length of chain?
There's so many stories about the lost Dutchman's mine. You don't know what one to believe. If it's there then the Apaches will know but "mums the word".
Az native here, I literally grew up searching for The Lost Dutchman in the early 80’s, as we called it, my Father’s a Prospector, we spent EVERY weekend & holiday out there gold panning & metal detecting, & I do mean EVERY free day, we were out there with the maps. My Father’s a MENSA member, he really thought he could find it, we never did but we sure did find a LOT of trouble!!! I’ve been shot AT, chased, had standoffs with psychotic old prospectors that ‘lived’ on the land… it’s actually VERY dangerous & I do NOT suggest that anyone go looking now either, sht’s only gotten worse with the invention of the internet.
AZ is The Wild West, it’s NOT texASS or Montana or any of that WEAK sht, it’s ARIZONA. Don’t go poking around unless you want to find out 🔥
Now THIS is a story worth hearing!
@@scottsmith5623 That’s funny, I’ve never thought about telling it as a story, it was just everyday life to me 🤷🏻♀️ I’ll definitely think about that, I’m sure my father would find it entertaining 😆
I would loved to have spent some time roaming around Arizona looking for gemstones, precious metals, arrowheads, fossils and stuff. I did spend it dragging my kids over the Southeast looking for Indian artifacts, civil war relics, fossils, rocks, gemstones, plants, antiques and whatever was interesting. My kids could probably relate to you.
@@robertporch8895 did y’all ever find anything noteworthy? 👀
How many active mines in the area are actually productive? As someone who’s too cheap to pay the MENSA testing fees, my question is why? Why search an area where there’s apparently not enough gold to attract large operations. Is gold actually present in any real quantities? How much of the legend about the mine and the miner just Arizona bull s&!t?
Babe get the kids packed n get ready! We’re going west!!!
I love these lost treasure stories! I love hearing stories about sunken treasures too! As a kid…. I used to always dream of finding pirates treasures from hundreds of years ago. As an adult, I stack gold and silver but it’s not the same as holding something old that was lost and could now be found. The allure of this story is that the treasure would be in its raw form!
🤣😂🤣😂😁
I feel the same it would be nice
Fantastic video. 👏👏👏
I love these tales.
My interest started when we bought our home in 1997.
The house was built in 1912 and during some repair work on the main stairs, I found a small wooden box. In it was a folded piece of what I think is parchment, so pretty old.
It’s definitely a map and mostly faded but under certain light we can see the name Weiss or Weise?
We had it framed and it has pride of place on the stair wall.
A friend who is a historian joked it was The Dutchman’s Map and that’s what sparked my interest.
The map the Dutchmen gave his friend, the true signature is located bottom right corner looking as a scribel.
have you checked it's authentication? have you looked into finding out more information about that map you have and seeing what the history is behind it? I would definitely the homework
Well hell...don't tell everyone! Didn't you listen to the story? 😊
@@BradfordGuy History told the storyline. The Dutchmen dictated the path. I understand the gold deposit is a superposition untouchable.
I am 76 years old and my grandfather was one of those men who looked for the Dutchman's mine as well as some other lost mines. He was a prospector among other things. His son, my uncle who was a geologist spend time doing the same thing. I have always been interested in geology and have my own rock collection. However, I've more important things to do in life than worry about finding lost gold. Seems like the history of this mine is riddled with death and despair. Somebody else can find it. I care nothing about it, but this tale was interesting to me. Thanks so much!
I could see what man in the rock he was talking about I see it perfectly
Surprised the 'Peralta" stone map wasn't mentioned. U.P.
Great basic story with a lot of missing information based on all the clues that treasure hunters have gathered and shared in last century. Fear or greed divided all of them which lead them basically no where near the goldmine. But the sad stories of never finding the goldmine are so true. In fact Brownie was right he took the wrong military trail. But what those that mean? First of all, historians should know by now that the military trails primarily ran from Fort to Fort, such as Fort McDowell to Fort Apache. The Apache claimed the location of the goldmine and part of the military trail to Fort Apache was used in route to San Carlos because it was a safe trail being that Fort Apache was the closest Fort to the town. None of the trails in the superstitious climb a mountain range towards the east except the military trail to Fort Apache. Jacob Waltz explained that when climbing one had to look back at the needle because the needle points to the goldmine. The goldmine’s elevation location had been cipher on two of the Peralta cipher stones to be exactly 1847 feet above sea level which is the same ground level as Aztec Peak. In order to align yourself to the needle you had to reach the saddle peak on top of the Sierra Ancha Mountain Ridge. But you need a spyglass to make sure you’re in line. The saddle peak is the best view cause you can see the Four Peaks line up to the northwest, the needle pointing, the military trail coming from Fort McDowell, and since your above Jacob Waltz’s goldmine, as he mentioned, then by looking downward a mile away towards the East your going to see the hidden canyon that is very visible from above. At ground level you’re going to miss it unless you see it from above first then you where it is. Jacob Waltz did not sealed the goldmine. He sealed an entrance to the north canyon ledge that lead to the goldmine. As the Spaniards once said, you could not bore from above the goldmine or from below the steep ledge because it’s surrounded by hard rock. First of all you must be in the right location and second of all you cannot dig into the ground to cheat the Dutchman’s goldmine.
Some of you do not understand how the monumental rock structure called the needle points to the lost Dutchman’s goldmine. The monumental rock structure points like a finger in your hand. It doesn’t point down, up, or straight. It points far away over the highest mountain ridge towards the east. Its size, altitude, based on location can be viewed from many miles away especially with a spyglass. The needle was chosen in the creation of a stone cipher map by a person belonging to a secret organization in the early 1800’s because there was something on the needle that actually points in the direction of the goldmine. The stone cipher map was discovered by a Peralta family member at the foothills of the superstitious mountains which meant that there was no LDM on the superstitious mountains. There was no LDM as far as the needle could see cause the mine was hidden over the highest mountain ridge. He transferred the cipher map onto a ledger. The Peralta member succeeded in finding the goldmine, but that came with a lot of trouble, sacrifice and death brought upon by the Apache. The land soon became the property of the U.S. government. The Peralta member needed an American and contracted Jacob Waltz to help in extracting gold from the secret goldmine somehow Jacob Waltz acquired the cipher map and before he died gave it to Julia Thomas before his death. This map describes what was being used as a pointer which was the left side wall as described by the shadow but you can only see the wall from far away. It is the line of sight that you align yourself to locate the mine. A symbolic structure was needed for leading and deceiving those who don’t understand ciphering?
So if you know all of this, why haven't you found it?
My specialty skill and knowledge I have acquired happens to be in deciphering old symbolic cipher treasure maps, cipher text, and cipher messaging. The cipher maps are very precise when you figure them out. I’m here to let those treasure hunters know the location of the hidden treasure because as I said I can’t read ciphers. I’m not here to help myself with the gold or to extract it. I’m here to help the treasure hunters who have not found since the time it has been mentioned. You are welcome to go find it if that’s what you’re looking for.
Another gut folklore story about gold,curses and graves
Thanks for covering my state 😊 I grew up on the lost Dutchman mine in the superstitions
And didn’t find crap
Grew up on what, dirt..lol
I hiked those trails
Not many videos I find that I interesting. This is an exception.👍
Being a native of Phoenix, I grew up hearing all of the tales of the Lost Dutchman's mine. There have been so many people who have either died or mysteriously gone missing while looking for it that it is a true legend, a mystery, a ghost story, that even just camping in the Superstitions gives one an eerie feeling. The mountains do not look that big, but I've hiked them, and you can easily become hopelessly lost if you do not give the mountains their respect.
I found it , spent it on creating a story about a lost mine that will have people searching for centuries
I lived in butte Montana which was a massive gold streak.
I was told by people that live in Butte long term that they could pan the dirt in the yard and find gold.
Gold does not stay in a underground streak. There would be gold around the area on the surface.
LOL - you do NOT lift up a chest full of gold ore as easy as the young snapper did in the movie 😅
EXACTLY what I thought!! But then they did say it was 48 lbs of ore…
That was full of paper
You mean like Mike Pence's photo op hand delivering Covid 19 supplies in large empty box's 📦📦📦📦🤣
TDS much? @@JB-rt4mx
@JB-rt4mxOg yes because a photo op of a political event that happened 5 years ago is so relevant to a legend of a gold mine in Arizona. Lay off the crazy pills. They are living rent free in your head. 😅😂😅
Watching from Anchorage, Alaska.
Shoose got a nice shape up for the cameras 🎥 😬
This is my favorite Myth Hunters episode. Thanks for uploading it
RIP Dutchman. May you find the peace in death that you weren't afforded in life. 🙏
Why? Since he killed for greed, he deserves no peace.
It’s about time that someone told this story. After all these years it finally came out. Now maybe there will be another gold rush.
There's still gold in Alaska. 🙂✌
This is no secret everyone who grows up in AZ has heard of it. There street name sand a state park named "lost Dutchman" Huge sing on the freeway as to drive past the superstion mountains. Every year we go to then Ren festival we drive past it lol..
@@jamesrjohanniii774 i get it sarcasm sometimes doesn’t come across in comments.
Lol
@@charlenejones68 Now that I totally believe! Would love to come searching there.
Love those stories about gold and the scary impact of gold fever ...
You guys did a great job on this!
19th century version of losing your bitcoin password
Truly Fascinating!! Absolutely loved this, thank you!!!
Sounds just like the legend of Lassiter's lost gold reef here in Australia.
That reef LoL 😂. A bloke presented someone I actually know with a cabin full of gold ore. His daughter refused to accept anymore gold from him scared of getting robbed.
My own mines run four ounces to the ton half an 18 grams average at two foot wide. One thousand ounces from a single ton.
Australia has rich gold reefs that reef has already been found but it is nothing special.
A lot of gold bearing reefs out that country even now go down ten twenty feet. With thousands of ounces in the first pay.
Send me a phone number I will send you pictures taken recently of gold ore from my mine and others. Or email even panning gold I can show you half an ounce for five hours work in fine gold want a video.
So I can prove it going out to work gold on Wednesday this week?
I'm gonna keep a chunk of high purity gold ore on me so when I die I can start a legend of a lost gold mine. That's how you make a legacy 😎
You can’t afford McDonald’s. Good luck with that
Then quit your crack habit and put down the meth first. Then go out and pick up some gold.
Uh...where on your body will that gold be???
@@mikebacherl2490 his grill.
He regularly brought back lots of ore! He didn’t plan on getting pneumonia and dying! He gave clues to his mine to friends but all over those mRNA those clues match multiple places
I thought they already found it?? Isn't it now called the MAMMOTH MINE
Greetings from the BIG SKY. I SPENT 11 YEARS in Phoenix from 1959. This tale is good.
Bet you know Doug Stoker 🚮🤡🍼
@@Thecodexnoir Greetings from the BIG SKY. Nope.
great story and thank you.
Love how killing the soldiers reenactment was covering them with a fitted sheet..lol goodwill didn't have an old wool blanket or something more realistic i guess.
Interesting video, great idea
I have a book on lost treasures in Colorado. When I lived there, I sometimes casually looked for several of them. I think the real treasure is in the story, the searching and the imagination of discovery. The trouble with all these lost treasures is the constantly evolving mountains. They will probably never look the same as the clues. One such story was the finding of massive gold by a hunter in a snow storm. He carefully marked the spot but never found it again. I heard he died in the state hospital without ever finding the gold again. The mountain had reworked itself over winter and nothing was the same. Have fun and good luck looking for any of them.
I live in Colorado. What is the name of this book? I haven't heard about anything besides Forest Fenn's treasure, which some theorized was in Colorado, but was actually found in Wyoming.
@@caseycurtis7497 Sorry for the delay. Just checked notifications. The name of the book is COLORADO TREASURE TALES by W.C. Jameson. Mine was published in 2001. Great book for anyone familiar with the state. I love this book.
I doubt Waltz ever killed anyone? Arizona had such a small population at the Time. It would have definitely been noticeable. I think he was a Claim jumper possibly. I always thought it was suspicious Waltz never filled a Mineral Claim like he did in the Bradshaw Mountains? It just doesn't make any sense otherwise.
Watching from Mackinac Island Michigan
Watch out for trolls you are our first defense.
Mackinac city would be a better choice. Too tourist. Too cold. Too much snow. Sorry for you
@Midwest10
Not really
I love it.
Have for 25 year's
@@mattmatt6572
Absolutely
@@Chadswonderfulwalkingtours I drove for Arrowhead Carriages summers of 99 and 2000. Loved that place!
I grew up right under the Superstition Mountains. love those mountains 🌵
What a great story. Thanks
Good show, I grew up close to the Superstition Mountains, in AZ.
Excellent video
a great video
Great watch always heard about this living in Arizona maybe one day ill go for a hike .
John Wayne found it and had a legal claim that is public record. Him and Charles Kenworthy
If you think that was the real actual duthmans mine and not a publicity stunt. Ya got another thing coming
I was born in southern AZ, so was my mother and her father. Can't finish this, too melodramatic. Too old news.
😂
i believe that Dick H stole the gold under the dutchmans bed, and i also believes that he didn't even share it with the woman who took care of him nor did the dutchmans sister. NOW that's a thief.
im chinese and i live in a small village in china... i think i will move to the states & give a crack at this famous american gold mine.
Brilliant idea!
Bob Schoose you look like Eugene Terreblanche of South Africa. Is like your twins 😂😂🤣🤣
Here in Kentucky a Rock House is a natural formation that most people would call a cliff.
And the part im n may b the spot graves?co.ky.42066. 4+2=6 +2last 6,s hmmm an ef3 came threw 2yrs ago a mile wide @ nighttime >3mins. An blink gone what i seen is undescribleable lived here 30yrs
No matter the rest of my history here an with that said blink so did all of humanity life souls have been replaced from the unknown places off darkness an evil bc im the living one that seems 2 not have changed some say it is me that has been replaced bc u wasnt like this b4 so when asked 2 prove they havent the slightes example or excuse they say comparison ,,,,i call it example it is what it is but now there seems 2b alot more evilnesss
My theory is that the US Government mined it out in secrecy in the early twentieth century and still keeps the legend going for shits and giggles.
Good story.
Dutchman's mine forever lost in mist of Time.
Fabulous presentation
Tell the story within an hour then croak just before you can tell the gold finding location. Aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh can you imagine how frustrating that is.
I found my Lil daughter a whole set of those spuds from playscool. I actually had a few of the spuds when I was Lil kid
The Legend ❤❤❤
I have been reading Dutchman stories since I came here 40 years ago. This story doesn't even resemble the credible stories I've read before... it's like an amalgam of stories which is what the treasure mags do
"An ice cream and oyster parlor" ok then....
If the Lost Dutchman mine is so productive, why are there no other gold mines in the area?
There are several.
There are many mines there, just most have been abandoned
@@kempeioniiko7916 Soooo, holes in the ground. They’re not really productive mines like the Lost Dutchman is supposed to be? If it’s not productive, is it really a mine?
@@doliver5447 Really? So why is the Lost Dutchman the only one that’s supposed to be so productive?
@@frankedgar6694 It doesn’t make sense to compare an un mined claim to a claim that has been mined out. You would have to find the mine and mine it out before you could compare. But I think you mean why does no other mine have veins as rich. There was the Bulldog mine in the area, which was so rich that some think it actually was the Dutchman Mine. But geologists say the sample from under Waltz’s bed doesn’t match ore from Bulldog. But there are plenty of sources of valid information about the Lost Dutchman mine, other mines in the area, and the Superstitions. If you are interested you don’t have to look far. But the Lost Dutchman is such a big deal because Jacob Waltz did have a box of incredibly rich gold ore under his bed and he got it somewhere, probably nearby. If nothing else, he had more of it hidden nearby. It’s not a baseless legend.
Jacob Waltz sound more like a Deutsch-man (Germany) 😂😂😂
The gold was hidden in the Chiricahua mountains by Apache Indians and will likely never be found
Wow! So interesting! I believe it never will be found.
What ever happen to the lady who took care of Jacob Waltz "The Dutch Man" when he got sick.
Good telling but a lot of details glossed over, some totally missed and some plain misleading. For starters Julia Thomas was not black but of mixed race. She may have only been 1/4 black. Existing photos of her detail as much.
There was another man with Dick Holmes at the time Of Jacob Waltz's death. His name was Gideon Roberts and he owned the lot next to Jacob's.
Rhinehart Petraesh, a German boy taken in by Julia Thomas is also never mentioned. He played a key role in helping Jacob getting that candle box with the gold ore in it placed under Jacob's bed. There is no doubt that he knew there was gold ore in that box and Julia would have known as well. What is not known is why Jacob had not already given the gold to Julia?
It is recorded that Julia claimed Jacob did but she was never able to prove it.
The thing is both Julia and Dick had different clues that Jacob had given them. If Dick had shared the gold with Julia they might have also shared their clues and history surrounding the mine would be quite different today for they might have found it working together.
However, it was greed that found the mine and now it is greed that keeps it hidden!
FYI if you put chocolate in milk what is it?
You better watch out in Arizona, they shoot first,that place is wide open.I live here.
There are more gold in lost treasure than in known treasure 😂
Pity that no one seems to know how to read the Peralta Stone Maps... Oh well...
Peralta stones are bogus fakes
@@chadlongnecker630 haha, if that's what you think, carry on.
Y’all are fuckin crazy looked that up and it’s the obvious bored person fucking with people tale I’ve ever seen might as well be Arizona’s oak island lmao
If mister waltz has committed these murders then he's not a nice person. He will be punished in the afterlife.
They've lost their mines...er, minds...
Thing is there was a rock slide a few yrs ago , so I doubt anyone will find it because it is covered by tons of sand and rock. I dont think any of the landmarks survived the storm .
Suprised they haven't tried to find it using LIDAR.
Sounds like the “Dutchman” may have moved there with the gold and used his excursions to the “mine” to launder it.
Greed is the Devils handy work
The Lost Fudgeman's recipe, forever gone, forever gone...
If the mine was ever real, the government took all the gold long ago. I think the Dutchman killed those men but lied about the mine. He could have stolen the ore from another mine and used the cover story to explain where his gold came from. He had no reason to tell Dick about his actual mine if there ever was one. He hated Dick and would have thought it was funny to lead him on a wild goose chase.
Cool story. I wonder if they ever found the gold
Curly got the gold
There are some mines in the area that some folks claim is it but none of those mines contain the same type of gold that the dutchman was bringing out…I can’t remember the exact details but I think it was just larger nuggets that nobody else has produced since….there are still a few large veins that have been lost to time-the blue bucket mine in Oregan was only found once and they didn’t even know what they had and didn’t know how to get back once they found out-slumachs mine in bc is rumored to hold millions easily but old slumach took the location to his grave…I probably spelled slumach wrong
It's crazy. It's been over 100 years and nobody's found it. I think the guy is right by bringing in the technology. I hope he finds it or somebody does. I hope somebody finds it and keeps it to themselves until they get the gold out and to turn it in and get the money. Then tell everybody where it is lol. I guarantee if you find it and you tell somebody it's there, the government will take over
Yes I did. Beverly Hills resident
The story that keeps tourists coming back and spending Uber amounts of money is the true Dutchman mine.
so wait - the deathbed story has to be false because such a plank & earth coverage, obscured with any single winter season, would man the owner would not find his stash
11:10 it was at that point,,,,you realise the story was revised sometime in the past 5 years. That was it for me.
Insane.
Mayor of a ghost town lol did the ghost town ghost vote ?
He looks like yosemite sam😮
The mine is on flat land which was mined with equipment. The vein shaft is covered by a block house, and it is private property.
Just seems like a wild goose chase. Gold is very limited. Your chances of finding gold is very very rare. The Apaches will know where it is but they won't tell you. If it exists.
Why didn't Tom Kollenborn get credit in this video? Everyone else got their name and a title flashed on the screen when they were interviewed. Mr. Kollenborn was a remarkable and honorable man.
The area out there looks so beautiful. Damn the mine idc about that lol I would never find it I am not that lucky lmao but I would definitely go for the beautiful scenery.
Sound like Lasseter reef in australia.
A big find but no one knowns were it is now.
Its not a mine, its a stash
I grew up in the shadow of the Superstitions... I have seen more than I can count, guys that got eaten alive by this "Lost" gold.. Guys started with a lot of capitol and zero returns... over and over...... Few can imagine just how rough this country is.. Running around here as a kid? yea, great parents....
I wonder the Apache were attacking?👀
The lost Dutchman Mine is area 51 run by the US army. You can't get near it. They got guys in white vans.
more likely he was german,and americans mistook deutsch for dutch...
Judging from the title, it was the Dutchman that was lost - not the gold.
Another tall story...
Three Mexican strangers showed him their fabulous gold mine ?
i know right ? first thing i thought & they even spoke english ? & were so happy to have found him raiding there camp site & food they showed him the lost city of gold ,he would have been the one killed not the one doing the killing .
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Cool story bro! 😂
I will get boffins to build me a time machine and go back in time and put a stop to mister waltz's activity. It's not cricket if he's guilty.
The first story has about 1% truth in it.
Word was he sent a huge amount of money to his sister in Germany.
Wild goose chase.