Which Sony Kit Lens is Best? SELP1650 vs SEL1855
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Finally, a comparison between these two kit lenses.
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After years of watching your videos, going back to this one and hearing "technology mafia" cracked me up. 😂😂😂
I can't tell the difference in this blind test.This is how lens comparison videos should be done!I'm surprised not many youtubers do this. Great video!
When shooting his girlfriend/wife it got real obvious how different the photos are.
To me B is clearly sharper and more contrasty, however compared to a pro lens it's still rather soft.
For me non of the both cuts it.
This is exactly what I needed! The side by side comparisons are also very helpful. Thank you!
"showy photographer" jab was on point 😂👍
I got both lenses in my collection. To be honest the difference is very very minimal. Both are identical, I am going to use them both, if I want to save a little battery I will go with 18-55.
The black Version 1855 from the Alpha 3000 is absolute Underrated. This thing is crazy Sharp on a zv e10
To me the 16-50 is all about size. It's nice to have the OSS and power zoom too but that's not the big attraction for my money. I'm thrilled that I can slap a 70-200 f/2.8 monster on the a6500 and have a real performer. At the same time I may just want to leave the house with a pocket camera. The idea that both can be one camera is great. I'll take the little 16-50 with me and be pretty pleased with the image quality in context.
Just the video I needed. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison.
@TM - watching your older vids, gotta admit - your approach improved like night and day
You answered all of my questions and concerns, thank you! I think I'll be going with the 1650 for my new a5100!
The 1650 has automatic application of digital correction even in RAW, even without you selecting the lens compensation option in Lightroom. It is simply forced. If you get a third party lesser known raw converter you can see the actual image. The distortion is actually MASSIVE. The older 1855 does not have forced correction, what you see is what was produced optically.
Perhaps, although tbh most consumers wont make corrections for barrel distortion in post processing, and if you are just using wifi to send the pictures to your phone to upload to instagram/fb, might as well get the lens that produces better pictures out of the camera. And in the end the 16-50mm is still a sharper lens.
***** I'm not discounting digital correction, if it works it's all fair game of corse. I'm just saying the comparison has to be fair, you can also enable correction in the 18-55 in camera and it also eliminates distortion and dark corners. The problem here is he's shooting raw so one of them is corrected and the other isn't.
16-50 seems to have a bit better color, but 18-55 has better out of focus effect. I just bought the 18-55，since im using it for time lapse, the electric lens can drain too much battery, but I also kinda want the extra wide angle tho, very hard decision to make.
Is because the 16-50 got the latest update already thats why the camera recognize it and do the adjustment of distortion, you just have to update the firmware on the sel 18-55mm i updated mine and it shows the 100 points of focus on my nex5t my test shows sharper than the 16-50mm because the edges on the 16-50 shows a little blurry
As always, another useful video. Thanks!
Nice, your quality of reviews have improved a lot. also nice driveway, where do you live?
cool, thanks I was looking to decide between the 2, but this helped me decide :D
This was actually a really nice comparison!
Props for making the lens "hidden" during the test shots, then you can't favour any lens beforehand, which is great!
I own a 16-50 and I don't mind it at all, but the grass has always been greener on the other side, I always wanted to try the other lens when so many talked so good about it, the 18-55. With this clip I felt like there were more details in the A shots, less distortion at the shot with the house (looks so bent and skewed, especially at the left side of the building).
Anyways, keep up the great vids, I've watched you now and then but now you have another subscriber :)
Have to add, when you do comparisons, please add a bit more info... like ISO and aperture.
very nice video, exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks for a really useful video!
Is it just me or does he sound like an eye doctor?? Lol
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You right. Haha
he actually looks like long lost twin of Tyler Hoover, presenter of Hoovies Garage
I know this blind eye doctor, but yes!
Nice comparison. They are very similar overall. I have the 18-55 but I would trade it any time for the smaller one.
I agree with your reasoning. I either picked A or tie on every pic in the blind comparison, so winner is definitely power zoom. I already own the 16-50, and this video is making me skip the 18-55, thanks!
The difference in angle of view between 16mm and 18mm is much larger than the difference in angle of view between 50mm and 55mm.
The powezoom Sony 16-50mm has serious vignetting and barrel distortion at 16mm which is obvious with raw files. The Sony 18-55mm was one of the first e-mount lenses. It has better optical quality with raw files than the power zoom 16-50.
The first generations of NEX e-mount cameras didn't have digital lens correction of geometric distortion, vignetting and chromatic aberration. So the older 18-55mm was more appropriate.
The power-zoom 16-50mm is only usable with digital inside camera lens correction which is common with all e-mount cameras nowadays.
Thank you after reading your comment I saw a video on the raw files of the 16-50 and the distortions at any given focal lenght!
So you guys recommend the 18-55?
S.A. The power zoom 16-50mm for its price is a marvel of technology. It is very convenient with small size and lightweight. It takes advantage of the inside camera digital image processing in order to conceal its optical issues. For the average amateur photographers the quality of jpeg photos from this lens is good enough.
For photos used in social networks the 16-50mm is fine because nearly all social networks reduce the resolution, quality of photos and a lens of high optical quality is pointless and a waste of money. That's why premium smartphones with inferior cameras than APS-C ones are so good with social networks.
On the other hand many photographers like to print photos in letter or A4 size. Others wants to process the raw photo files with their computer for better results than the default image processing of the digital cameras.
For these people the Sony 18-55mm is by far an optically better affordable choice.
All kit lenses like the 16-50mm or the 18-50mm are offering just an acceptable optically quality at a reasonable price.
All lenses are a compromise between price, optical quality, size, weight and autofocus performance.
For example if you can avoid autofocus and you don't care about the lens weight, there are some prime manual focus e-mount lenses with really good optical quality at prices similar to the price of kit lenses.
The UA-cam channel of this video has some reviews of them.
@@AgnostosGnostos Hi and thanl you so much for spending the time to write all this!
This is a bit confusing, at the same time.
After the video review, lens "A" was way better in therms of optical quality (look at the portrait of his wife) - that was the 16-50.
I shoot only raw myself and edit the photos, but I need something convenient and flexible for the "family" road-trip or parties etc., where I do not have time to change lenses and stuff.
The 16-50 would be in this case the perfect fit, but the "optical quality" you mentioned confuses me now - especially after watching the video here as well.
Can you share some more details on that, please?
I figured out quickly that lens B was the 18-55, because of the crop factor. ;) Better next time to keep them at the same focal lengths.
Exactly. I was like, okay... awkward
and the barrel distortion
very interesting, often wondered how they compared
A very helpful video. Thanks
I have both lenses. I tend to use the 16-50 more often on my a600 or 6300 because of its size when I want something that resembles am unobtrusive point and shoot..I do like the images out of the 18-55 better though and still use it from time to time on my old NEX 5 out of nostalgia for casual occasions. The silver also matches nicely with the silver NEX-5.
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Are these good for video? If so which is better. And can you get good shallow depth of field with ease? Thank you
being a non-powerzoom lens 18-55mm spares battery juice.
I have a broken 1650 and I see a lot of broken ones for sell on sites. Apparently they are very easy to brake. 1650 is lighter in weight and size but I am going to replace with the 1855 hoping it will hold up better.
i preferred the 18-55 but i own the 16-50. but honestly they look so much alike
please, can you make a vs the Sony 16-50mm vs Rokinon 14mm, wich one its sharpest. Thanks
Rokinon is sharper, no need to test.
TechnologyMafia thanks a lot so, i buy it.
Also, the 16-50 mm would make a better compact traveler photo lens because of its size. Depends on what lenses are being used for.
Hello, I have a question I just bought the a6000 with the kit lens and I am going to mount it on a drone which would you recommend the SELP1650 OR THE SEL1855.
I've been noticing more and more the weird flattening effect exhibited by image A at 6:29 and man combined with how delicate this lens is I'm honestly thinking of going back to my old silver 1855 that came with my NEX-5. lol
My 16-50 disintegrated, and the camera technician I went to see had a box of them in bits. He reckoned that, for long term durability and repairability, the older design is a whole lot better. However, coming from left field, the 28-70 kit lens from the full frame Sony camera may be better than either of the crop camera kit lenses on the a6000. Personally I have given up on low cost Sony zooms, and use ex film camera lenses, supplemented by Sigma and Rokinon wide angles, their IQ is by far superior.
16-50 fails a lot . mine has some grinding noise when extending on power on.
I'm surprised you found there to be more distortion from the 18-55 lens. I know the camera corrects it well for the 16-50. Can you advise if it had corrected for the 18-55 also in body?
I was thinking of changing to the 18-55 as the power zoom I find annoying, but I wont if the a6000 doesn't correct for that lens as well..
Hi I've been using today the 16-50mm lens and although image quality is quite good, there is a blueish tint I dislike,especially compared to the Sony Zeiss 16-70mm .What do you think?Is there any way to remove it?If yes,please make a video.Bye!
Hi. I have a question. I have Sony NEX 7 with original 18-55 lens. I would like to upgrade to have a better picture quality. I’m mostly using my camera for taking photos of my family. At home, while traveling, etc. I’m looking at new Sony lens 18-135, and on SEL 18-200.
Would you recommend either one of those lenses. Or would you recommend to upgrade the camera?
Please let me know how sharpe the Landscape shots with 16 - 50 kit lens with Sony A6000? I am planning to buy. How success Landscape shots with Sony 55mm f1.8 lens?
Question. Is the distortion on the 18-55 only on the wide end of the zoom?
Sending out a question: I'm thinking abouof getting a Sony Alpha a6000. I'm looking to get solid sports videos to create highlights, and try my hand at vlogging. Wanted to ask if this camera would suit both jobs?
Just got an A6000 with the 16-50 lens to replace my NEX-5 that came with the 18-55 lens. Although I prefer the manual zoom on the 1855, the 1650 is very useful when on the go because it takes less space.
Just a (noob) question: can it harm the 1650 if you manually turn it instead of using the power zoom buttons?
There's no mechanical zoom in it. 16-50mm power zoom is electronically wired it is adjusted only by switches. Even the zoom ring is an electronic switch there's no way to mechanically turn it. Unless you literally press the barrel and force it like a push-and-pull lens then you'll risk damaging the gears inside it.
I keep looking at other a6000s, I recently purchased one from amazon but i feel like the top plate is not mounted properly as there is a small gap. maybe I'm over exaggerating but does anyone notice it too? its the seam under the alpha logo opposite from the viewfinder.
Can you please suggest a single lens with Sony 6300. I am currently using D5300 with 18-140 3.5-5.6 and was planning to upgrade to mirrorless system
I am considering getting a Sony SEL 1855 lens for use with my SONY NEX-FS 100 as I didn't purchase the kit lens for the camera. Wil this lens afford full functionality of the camera? Using its Iris & auto-focusing features? Thx.
Hi - thanks for the video. Useful comparison. Quick question - can you make use of the power zoom functionality on the 16-50 when you are operating the camera with the built in wifi app on your phone/ipad? To clarify - can you make it zoom between 16mm and 50mm?
yes you can
I have both and I like both. But, I have better lenses so don't use them that often. I mostly use my 18-105. Power zoom is better for video's and the size of the 16-50 is nice when you don't want it to take up too much space. But if I carry a flash on top of my camera I prefer to couple it with the 18-55 instead of the 16-50 just because of the better grip.
Hi I know there is a old post but I have aprobé with my 18 55 mm lenses not having eye focus, is possible because was bought in 2012. I did eat button and the wide option from the menu but still eye focus not compatible with this lenses. thank you
I could barely tell the difference. It would seem that having each of these lens is a redundancy. So decide which is preferable in terms of space taking versus actual quality of picture.
Great unbiased comparison - and whom would have thought Sony actually didn't compromise on the more compact and even wider kit lens ! Again as with physics of lenses there's bound to be compromises - I think Sony still did a great job for a kit lens
There are massive compromises with the 16-50. It's very smeary in the corners and field flatness doesn't exist so if you focus in the center objects at the same distance in the corners won't be in focus. Add fringing to the mix and it's the worst kit I've used.
bardzo dobre porównanie ,łapa w górę.
I need both. 1650 Is nice to go with, but is every time goes to 16 when power off and on. 18-55 will stay as was.
thank you very much
I am about to buy a6k and cant decide to pick body+kit+meike 35/1.7 or jsut go for body+sony 35/1.8oss; i am mainly planning to work with night street photography (with manual focusing) w/o tripod/flash/etc + like 99% sure that i am not going for any videos/portraits/landscapes at all. maybe you got any tips which setup will be better in this case? =] Thanks for all your vids btw, you got some really great channel dedicated to mirrorless sony cams here
If you are only going to be using manual focus, you will be happy with the meike 35mm. That saves $300 over the SEL35F18.
Thanks for the response; i am pretty sure, that sooner or later ill go for this sony 35/1.8oss or, maybe, sigma 30/1.8, but not for now =]
Totally agree, and I really love my 1650 (I have also the 1855) but the great disadvantage of the selp1650 is its fragility :( you could just switch on the camera in his bag for mistake, or even a little tap on the front lens when is open, for broke it !
useful to have tucked away in your bag, a trust back up can be a godsend, I'm sure.
hi how are you? i watch your video is amazing . i am using sony A6000 camera. i have a two camera kit lenses. 18 to 55 and 55-210 .in function hall which lens i want use it? or i need to buy sigma lens like a 16 f1.4 ?please reply me ..Thanks and god bless you.
I would look at the Sigma 30mm F1.4 or the Sony 35mm F1.8. Those are two of my favorites.
what the watch you have there?
just wanted to ask if you can tell why my videos recorded using the a6000 + 1650mm is shaky and also not stabilized, is it because im not using a stabilizer or glider? or is it the settings? and could you recommend me an 'everyday use' setting for shooting video? *im a beginner* thanks!
you can just put the camera in "A" (aperture priority) and record. There are no settings that i mess around with when i shoot video. I would recommend starting out with a tripod, and then looking at stabilizers after.
isn't the power zoom lens the same as the kit lens that comes with the Sony ZV-E10 ?
Good review. Thanks.
Would you say that this SONY kit lens would perform well enough ... when set to 16mm (f 5.6 - f 8) ... for deliverable INTERIOR photos for clients whose homes are between the $400,000 to $1,500,000 price range?
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The 16-50mm would be better used for landscape photography. The 18-55 mm is a good all around general purpose lens. Both are used for different purposes.
Why would you say that? Because it is marginally wider? Both cover similar ranges and aren't particularly fast or sharp. I wouldn't use either personally.
I couldn't really see much of a difference, I think B looks better on my camera so... that's what I'm going for.
I bought sony cx6700 and came with this lens. I have tried many times and i cannot seem to get a decent picture inside and out. Mostly blurry pictures which i need one mainly for family portraits. I did buy a sony FE 2.8/90 macr which is the most amazing lens but not wide enough for portraits. Not sure what im doing wrong with sony 50mm lens and camera.
My wife just told me that my step daughter will be treating her to a Portugal river cruise somewhere in the near future. I have never owned a kit lens for any camera I have ever owned but, I decided to get a 16-50mm kit lens to put either on my A6400 or A6600 so she will have a very small package to carry on the trip... I normally use the 28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron on either of the above cameras backed up with the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 and Sony 70-350mm lens on a second body but, I know that my wife would want a smaller and lighter package to carry...
Im not camera savvy at all soooo....Ques: would I have more, and less expensive, f2.8 options if I went to an A-mount lens on my newly acquired NEX 5t? I currently have the 3.5f kit lens, but my indoor shots are always dark. (I don't have $500 for the Sigma f2.8 18/50 E-mount lens).
thanks for video. Could you recommend a good affordable lens for astrophotography for my nex 5n? As of now I only have 18-55 but it cannot take in enough light for stars
04av6 Rokinon 12 mm f/2.0
I had the 18-55 and tried the 16-50, but the 18-200 is much better, except at 200mm...
looking at the current price point and deals, I am finding hard to figure out which camera should I purchase between Sony a6500 and a6300; I am a beginner photographer coming from iphone7. I will be moving back to India where it's going to be really hot so will overheating be an issue or should I pay $300 extra dollars to get a6500 considering the price difference. I am looking to mostly shoot photos and some wildlife.
a6500 is better with stabilization and less overheating.
Hi will this lens work with a Sony A5100 it comes with the e-mount ?
Both these 2 lens are E-Mount lens. Able to fit Sony A5100
I purchased my a6000 several years ago, when they first came out. My 16-50 broke 6 months after I purchased the camera! The gears that drive the focus are not only Tiny, but are made of plastic and really hard to replace yourself. I will never buy another!! The 18-55 has been going strong now, for a couple of years. Buy Metal NOT Plastic!!!
Get the Hasselbald's 18-55mm e-mount, it is better than both of them. I own all three.
Let some users I don't like to use the 16-50mm, I prefer manual zoom instead of power zoom used by the 16-50mm lens.
Would you recommend the 18-55 mm for vlogs? I'm using the power zoom on my a5000.
No. Stick with the 16-50.
If you would like to upgrade from the 16-50 kit lens i would get the sigma 19mm (for vlogs). I got it, it's light and it works great😊
TechnologyMafia ok! Thank you for the recommendation! I appreciate it!
So I only have a SELP50 lens and I'm looking for something wider to add. Should I buy a kit lens or go straight for a 25mm/35mm lens?
Are you talking about SEL50F18 or SELP1650 kit lens?
@@HMX_12 yes the SEL50F18 prime lens is what I have. I do not have the kit lens. I'm wondering if I should or go for another wide prime lens.
i bet the distortion just comes from the newer kit lens being digitally corrected in the camera. you can switch it off to see the "real" peprformance of the glas.
Nice comparison. I've heard lots of comments about the PZ version being really delicate and subject to damage. I had a used one that worked briefly then failed, seemingly the way others have failed. My 18-55 feels rugged in comparison.
Hi there,
My kit lens consist of 16-50 Zoom and the other lens 55-210 these are my kit lens not
18-55. There is a big difference 16-50 is far better when focusing as to the 55-210.
am interested is getting an adapter and use my Nikon lens on the Sony
I bought a6000 body only, then 50mm f/1.8 separately. Should I buy the kit lens 16-50mm? . I will probably take video most than photos. Thanks
I think you should get the kit lens, but the 16-50mm is will be loud on your vids when zooming. Video with the 50mm will look great, but you'll be forced to move farther from your subject.
Why didn't you just get the kit lens with your body as a bundle?? In Canada, it just costs $50 extra. And used ones that are in new conditions cost about $150. So if you do the math, you kinda had to get the kit-lens even if you did not want one because you could have sold it for $150 and made $100 on the lens..
Better contrast with the 16-50 and it's decently sharp in the center but not so much in the outer areas. I think my copy is decentered as it's much sharper on left side than the right. I prefer using a Minolta MD 28mm f/2.8 for most situations except video without support as the OSS is very helpful. As a side note, I wish Sony would release an updated Minolta MD 135 f/2.8 with nothing more than new coatings and price it less than $500. It's such a tiny lens and it performs very nicely minus the CA at f/2.8, but focus is smooth and the metal body with sliding hood is very durable. The color rendition of the lenses is pretty old school, reminds me of the 80's (released in early 80's so yeah).
Very cool. I havent looked into minolta lenses, but i will now. Thanks for the comment!
i bought the 16-50, i didn't have a choice but i absolutely hate the bigger one in any case.
Nice review.With all respect both this basic Sony kit lenses is very weak even for zooms,IMHO.Compares to this lenses Nikon last kit lens is another universe.This Sony kit lenses is on same level as Canon 18-55 kit lens-let it be just for some shots.If somebody will buy a6000-a6600 to realise full potential of this truly great cameras another zoom or fix lens is needed.
In the blind test I always preferred the lens A since the B produced either more chromatic aberration or distortion, but I was worried because I didn't knew which lens it was, glad to see the 16-50mm is actually an improvement.
Nice job
What do you recommend for all purpose lense? I have a6000
I prefer 16-50 mm
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You take those in Okinawa?
are you backyard scientist guy?
Perhaps mine was defective but the 1650 gave me pictures with bigger distortion than my old 1855. I bought it for the size and, thinking that because was newer were better, but returned to seller because of the barrel effect that gave to the pictures with wider aperture, awful, and also because of the noise of the zoom when recording videos which was very noticeable while reproducing. Terrible. So, I went back to my kit lens 1855
With an adapter would the 16-50 work properly on an eos m since it's a power lens?
Has anybody run some tests how many shots can A6000 make with each one of those two lenses? Since there's no motor in SEL1855 it should turn out better in this matter.... A6000 drains the battery a lot...
Does the 16-50 match to Sony nex5??
Yes (E mount)
Which one is a sharper lens ?
Did you watch the video...? 16-50 is sharper.
I have both, the smaller black 16-50 mm is nicer to look at. But no sun cap. Like the older 18-55 mm has. Important when the sun is shining. I like to zoom with my hand, not with a motor. Both zoom lenses does not give you a great result.
ok, now i sell my 16-50
I had the 16-50 and totally hated the power zoom (was my first "power zoom" lens at least I got it used cheap). I traded it towards a used A6000 and had to find a black 18-55 as a substitute. Finally found one at a reasonable price. They're getting harder and harder to find at a good price...
18-55 does it have auto focus?
Brendan yes. And is faster than 1650 on the a6000
I have a silver SEL1855 for my NEX-5R, and ended up getting a SELP1650 for my A6000 after watching this video again. Thanks for a nice video.
Hi Mr. Music Studio. I also have the SEL50F18 and about 30+ legacy lenses for my E-Mount cameras. I upgraded because I thought I've skipped the NEX-6, NEX-7, and found a good deal on the A6000.
To answer your question, I'm not a pro and not a pixel peeper. There are a few things I like about the A6000: The built-in flash, the electronic viewer, the physical dial, higher quality build, eye-focus, nicer menu system. I miss the touch-screen on the NEX-5R that the A6000 doesn't have. The A6000 is a bit bigger and heavier. They both overheat when filming. I ordered a rig case for the A6000 to see if it will help.
I still use my NEX-5R as much as the A6000. In terms of image and video quality, I can't tell the difference.
The A6000 is definitely a much nicer camera. But if I were you, wait for the Sony announcement near the end of April 2017, and pick up the A7II. Go full-frame.
my copy of the 1650 was indeed easily sharper than the 1855 I had so it was surprising but welcome
yes indeed, i agree. i was equally surprised.
around 60,000 rupees which camera is better sony a 6000 or Canon DSLR cameras . please help me
Check out my other video on why I switched from Canon to Sony. The choice is yours- both great companies that make great cameras.
A6000 any day
i dont know what it is , but there is a distinct lack of sharpness , look at the eyes on the portrait , its all smudgy , i tell you my old Canon SX130 will do sharper , i tested it against full frame Canon 5D with 24-80 USM lens and its not far in sharpness . But micro contrast color rendering and such is not obviously on that level