xTool Laserbox D1 and Ortur Laser Master 2 Comparison
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- This is a video where I go over the similarities and differences between the xTool D1 Laser Diode cutting and Engraving Machine and the Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro. This comparison does not go over examples of engravings or cuts with either machine since I feel like they both do the job well but wanted to go over the specs of both machines.
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Very thorough comparison, thanks. Really helps me understand these engravers before taking the plunge.
Thank you, glad to help!
I was actually able to try both of these laser engravers before purchasing the Makeblock xTool D1 (10 watt laser). The xTool D1 is an amazing laser engraver, and it just feels much sturdier than the Ortur laser engraver. The Xtool D1 now works very well with the Lightburn software (after an easy firmware upgrade). It also has a new plug & play 20 watt laser option (laser unit can be purchased separately), an air assist option, a honeycomb bed, a new updated rotary engraver tool, and leg extensions. The xTool D1 also works very well with the new lightweight Comgrow laser engraver enclosure. The xTool D1 does not have limit switches, but they are not really necessary anyway. Also, while assembly is fairly simple, the squaring of the gantry, and adjustment of the belt tension (3 of them) are key to the accuracy of the xTool D1. The focus of the 10 watt, .08 mm laser beam is very small and accurate. It will produce great photos and engravings, and the laser will cut 1/8" plywood in one pass, and 1/4" plywood in 4 or 5 passes (100% power @ 5 mm per second for both). Any wood thicker than 1/4" just burns before it can be cut, but hey this is a diode laser, not a CO2 laser. The really powerful (and loud) cooling fan actually acts like an air assist, and the totally enclosed laser eye guard creates air pressure to assist the laser (this is actually by design and not a flaw). I actually like the red crosshair sights for squaring up and centering a project. However, you can fire the main laser at very low power for framing if you wish. The Laserbox software even gives you the option of turning off the crosshairs altogether if you desire. The red crosshair laser is exactly 16 mm from the blue working laser, and it can be calibrated in Lightburn if necessary. The WiFi and mobile App. work great, but I hardly ever use them. I have a really good laptop connected to the xTool D1 by USB cable, as Lightburn (in high graphic mode) requires lots of processing power for rendering projects. Normally, I will create new projects on my custom desktop computer, and then transfer them to the laptop over the network. So far, I have engraved wood, leather, cast acrylic, stainless steel, coated steel and anodized aluminum with the xTool D1, and they all turned out great. I only cut thin wood (1/4" and under) with the xTool D1, and it also works very well. The xTool D1 and Lightburn software both have a learning curve, but once you get the hang of them they work great together. As you can probably tell, I really like the xTool D1, as it works very well for my needs, and I know it well now. In the future, I may upgrade to the 20 watt laser, and eventually a CO2 laser, but for now the xTool D1 suits me just fine. If anyone has any questions regarding the xTool D1, feel free to ask any time. I will be more than happy to help. 🙂
Might be my longest comment ever! Yes the D1 and Laserbox Basic have made a number of improvements since the this video was released. Still a solid machine, now if they would only figure out a way to add limit switches it would be even better. Can't wait to see their enclosure coming shortly.
@@BusterBeagle3D Doesn't the newer 20w laser have limit switches?
Best comment I’ve read. Thank you for your input and insight.
The X-tool D1 now has a fan assist accessory ($119). Thank you for the making of this comparison
You are very welcome! Ortur also now has a laser module with an air assist as well. Not 100% sure on the price though.
Thank you so much for this video! I was looking at this two units for myself and this is very valuable. For those wondering, Lightburn works with the D1 and there is instruction on how to set it up for it. The only detail that I might have a different opinion, is on the cross hair laser to mark where it starts burning. That extra cross hair is to mark the work origin (0,0) on the corner of your stock and not the beginning spot for burning. When I had the Camaster CNC, it came with something close to this, just to mark your own 0,0. Still undecided on which of these two, leaning towards the Otrur. Again, thank you so much for your video!
Thanks for watching, hope it was helpful!
@@BusterBeagle3D Yes, very helpful, as I said, looking at these two units. If I'm not imposing too much on you, have a question about the xTool. It has a double laser setup, are both 5W? If that's the case, do they equate to 10W output? The only reason I ask is because they offer it also in 10W, is that the double setup then?
Sorry for the question, but watched the video again and my question was answered in the first 5 minutes, sorry to bother.
can i ask y u r leaning towards the Otrur
@@joecornejo7454 I was because it has limit switches, but in reality is not needed and also xTool was not compatible with Lightburn. Changed my mind when I saw Lightburn and the D1 working together. Purchased the D1 and the rotary unit, plus I like having 10W better than 5.5W, love the metal construction of the D1.
One thing I would tell you about the D1, make sure you have it go the home position on Lightburn startup, otherwise the origin point won't be steady. I'm quitye happy with the D1.
Great video, thanks! I wish you've had a Sculpfun s9 video!
great, thanks! Appreciate your Etsy store as well!
Glad you like it!
Thank you so much for this video.
You are very welcome!
Excellent video, very helpful. I was wondering could one upgrade the Ortur with a higher laser to meet up with the 10w laser power of the xTool?
I don't think Ortur sells a 10W currently but it has been rumored that they might be in the future. I feel like I have also seen others do it with other brands laser as well.
there are available updates to the xTool D1 that should be included in this video...air assist,lightburn compatibility,and a 20 watt output laser module.
As of now (June 2022) the xTool D1 can be controlled by LaserBurn Software. Does the xTool rapid travel between locations when the laser is not firing? The one drawback I have on my AtomStack is it moves the same speed when laser is on or off. Those steel v-wheels running on round guide rods, are they hardened steel? I have the same design on my 30 year old Dahlgren engraving machine which has maintained superior alignment, mechanical stability, and wear resistance.
*Excellent video! Thank you!* My thoughts: X-Tool has released the firmware for the D1 to use Lightburn. The LM2 Pro is 400x400. The standard LM2 is 400 x430. X-Tool made a huge mistake by not including $0.25 Limit Switches, and if you move the gantry it looses its coordinates and the X,Y don't move together. The D1 has a long way to go before it's consumer ready; looks don't count.
I agree that limit switches would have been nice which is why I bring it up in the review. I was even looking at the board to see if there was some way to add it but I don't see a port for them. However to be honest I don't even use limit switches on my CNC machine. I simply have to know where the start position is and the go from there. Not an excuse for not having the switches because I wish they did but I wouldn't say it's not usable. I have seen people create some amazing things so far using the machine.
@@BusterBeagle3D Definitely a nice beta for sure! But the fact that the gantry moves unevenly for me by hand is a deal breaker. A friend has one and he loves it, except if he finds out he has to run a second pass. They just didn't get enough beta testers involved, or perhaps didn't take the feedback. This could have been the #1 on the market.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Which machine currently is the best buy in your opinion?
The D1 not currently working with LightBurn is a killer for me. Hope they get it sorted soon as I like the build quality.
It currently does work with Lightburn. It didn't at the time of the publish on this video but it does now.
@@BusterBeagle3D Yes, thanks for that. I realise that now after doing more research after posting this 🙂. Cheers.
Can this cut 3/4”-1” foam ?
Great video thanks for all the work you put in your videos I’m looking at the ORTUR Laser Master 2 Pro-S2-LF an I run a Mac computer you mentioned there were several softwares for I know Lightburn will are there any others that will run on a Mac I like to have more than one option
Almost everyone I see with Mac uses Lightburn. I have a Macbook Air but I run Bootcamp on it so I can use Windows when I want to then use LaserGRBL instead with my mac (only in Windows mode)
@@BusterBeagle3D Thanks for replying back I ran a industrial laser since 92 I have retired now an do some wood working an looking to get a laser to engrave my work ORTUR Laser is what I’m liking the best would just like to have more options to operate an I’m not a fan of bootcamp
Thanks again
I was so excited about ordering my Ortur from your channel, but sorry to say the service(or lack of) I got from Ortur left me so dissatisfied I need to write about, I ordered my Laser pro on the 5th of April and 3 other items and even included express post(because I live in Australia) it was suppose to arrive on the 17th, I had no contact about my order by the 12th so I got in touch via email only not the get a reply, I went online (14th)and was able to chat with someone, who gave me tracking for all four item. Yes I have received 2 of my four items last week(date stamped the 14th) I then sent another email requesting about my other items and still havent got a response. In all my online transactions I have never felt so dissatisfied than now. I cant honselty say I have received service from Ortur.
Yeah. Unfortunately that feeling can be pretty universal across the board for different companies in this space. A few minutes checking out the facebook groups from any of these machines and you will see similar stories. Sorry this has happened to you. I can only speak from my own experiences and have had nothing but positive interactions but I also know how frustrating it can be to not get what you ordered or be able to speak with someone with some real answers. Hope this got sorted out.
Will the X Tool D1 work with Lightburn alone with no other software involved?
I believe so.
Hi Ryan, I'm hoping you can help me. I am interested in buying one of these two machines and plan on cutting 1/4 pine plywood for my small business, in your opinion which is better for that?
Hello. currently the D1 comes with a more powerful laser and are even coming out with a 20W (Output power) laser as well. Ortur currently tops out at a 5W(Output Power) It would be the best choice for cutting unless you wanted to go for a CO2 laser which would be much more powerful.
Hello, I am a small business selling coconut shell bowls and I engrave on them to personalize. I currently outsource the engraving, planning to buy either xtool d1 or LM2 pro, so I can do the engraving in house. I wanted to know if these machines can engrave hard materials like coconut shell with sufficient depth
I see you asked on Facebook as well. I don’t see any reason that you wouldn’t be able to use either machine for the bowls. The D1 currently has the larger wattage of laser but either should work for what you want.
I got the lc-40 recently & engraved a piece of the included paper with it. My goal is not engraving, though. It is cutting 3mm wood & hardboard - things like that. Do I need to return this & get the Xtool pro 10w instead? I love the build, fit & finish of this lc-40, however I feel like it might be a different class of machine & won’t fit MY needs - is that so? It is my first laser. I would like to be able to do 15x15 works, though I could live with 12x12 for a while, too (considering Lc-40 is 14x15 roughly). Please advise me! Thanks!
I also wish to do rotary of many kinds from shot glasses to jars - I feel like I need to send back the Lc-40 because they say a rotary is coming & a stronger laser - by the time I get either of those, that’s the price of the Xtool d1 pro anyway, right? Air assist seems very important & the nozzle comes standard on Xtool d1 pro as well.
The moment Xtool opens that up to light burn I'm going to buy one.
They were literally asking for Beta testers for it today on their Facebook group so hopefully soon.
Their website says they are working closely with lightburn. So they can't run lightburn yet?
@@redrider7xbilly548 yes they can.
It has opened up to lightburn.
Good morning! I was wondering if you had any specific thoughts regarding an educational setting? I'm a high school engineering teacher looking to use some of my program funding to get a laser for my lab and need one that's durable, economical, and good for student use.
I'm leaning towards the D1, but would also be interested in your thoughts.
I would say wait a few days. They are both coming out with new versions that I haven’t had a chance to test yet but they should both be improvements over their current models.
@@BusterBeagle3D Thanks! I'll keep my eyes peeled for updated versions of them.
Any technical info on the yet Ortur Laser Master 3 Laser Engraving Machine 20,000mm/min 10W LU2-10A
Soon. ;)
can you use the ortur with CorelDraw?
I haven't used it so I'm not sure. Sorry. If you are just using it for graphics you could author them in there and then use LaserGRBL or Lightburn to burn the images.
Hi there 👋 Love Ur videos 👍 I currently own the LM2 20w...& was ready 2 upgrade 2 the LM2 Pro LF. I can get the LM2 Pro with enclosure & z-axis lifter for around $750 (free delivery & no added tax) The D1 would b slightly more expensive just on its own with the rotary attachment & lifters. Which would U suggest would b the better purchase please & do U feel like the steel wheels/rails on the D1 make a big difference over the rubber/aluminium on the LM2 Pro?
If you already have the LM2 and are used to the working of that you may find the xTool frustrating until they workout the software updates or make it work with something like Lightburn. I don't think the steel wheels make anything work better but I do feel like they would last better in the long run. The LF is nice and the added hardware for the air assist is also nice but the laser on the xTool D1 is much better, it's available in 10 Watts so almost double what you can get on the LM2. I have also created a file that you can use to add an air assist to the D1 as well. You can see a video on that by looking at my UA-cam Channel.
@@BusterBeagle3D would you spend the extra $100-150 on the D1 then? I have heard that Ortur may be bringing out a 10w laser themselves 🤔 I'll be happy cutting 4mm Ply/Acrylic tho (& O think the Ortur LF "may" handle that?
@@neilrisley6667 That's really your call whether it's worth the extra money. I myself have cut around 10mm on the D1 so it's nice that you can do that if you need to. Again I received both of these machines for free so I could review them. I think they are both great options. I have even cut over 4mm on the Ortur Aufero so I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that with the same LF laser on the LM2.
So my main questions is : I want to be able to engrave initials/ names and or logos on cutting and charcuterie boards. From what I have read both of these can do that. Which is the easiest to learn? I am a senior citizen with some computer skills but… lol and I don’t want to break the bank either. Also May want to engrave on metal thanks
They both have an identical learning curve. They are essentially the same machine with small upgrades. Metal however is a different story. While you can engrave on some coated stainless steel there are many metals it will not work on. If you want to be able to engrave on metal you will need coat it with something like a black dry erase marker for the mark to show up. Either one will work for the boards.
@@BusterBeagle3D the metal I speak of is the one you do for awards. Comes usually in black. I guess it’s etched on? Not sure if metal was the correct term. So it should be at least 10w?
How do the speeds compare?
Roughly the same. You might be able to run the XTool a little faster since it has a more powerful laser but for most jobs they are pretty comparable.
Will this engrave/etch on a pistol?
I have seen people do that with the xTool D1. Not sure why it wouldn't work on the Ortur as well.
Can d1 cut though thin metal? Aluminum titanium?
No. I don't think so.
So where is the comparison of it actually doing some work?
lightburn now working with firmware v1.1.0.B3
Yes it is! I knew it was coming but wasn't there by the time I made this video so I mentioned it as a future improvement.
xTool
RA2 Pro, 4-in-1 Laser Rotary for Laser Engraver, Laser Rotary Roller
Jaw Chuck Rotary, Y-axis Rotary Roller Engraving Module for Laser
Engraving Cylindrical Objects, Wine Glass, Tumbler, Ring.
Is this compatible with I don't hear anybody talking about it.
The only reason why is this one has the capability of doing coffee mugs it will flip either way.
Ortur Laser Master Pro 2
I have a video on the RA2 Pro video as well. It also comes with wires that allow the RA2 Pro to work with other machines that are not xTool
New to laser. Why is glowforge so much more than these two?
It’s a different type of laser and comes with a host of other features like cameras, and enclosure, as well as other features. The glowforge is also a what is called a CO2 laser which has way more cutting power. These 2 machines use what is called a diode laser. Hope that helps.
@Buster Beagle 3D the xtool and ortur are the two I've been looking at the most. Glowforge price is something I can't justify, not knowing anything about lasers. I would be using it many for wood projects, and I like the idea of the xtool leg extensions.
Major mistake to make Laserbox D1 not play with Lightburn (excellent software). Giving you a weak, basic program that will cost $$$ (likely) to upgrade is a non-starter. I have been using the Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro for a couple months with Lightburn and it is fabulous. I have not found anything that I could not easily figure out to do. I have been using Vectric Aspire for CNC for 12 years and although popular and super high quality like Lightburn, Aspire had a pretty steep learning curve and very pricey (over $2000 over the years).
Ortur's quality is outstanding and the machine should have a long life and easily maintained.
According to XTools and Lightburn they are working together to make the D1 compatible with Lightburn so that should be available soon. My comparison is based on how it is right now so that's what I reported. I think the LM2 is also as great machine, no complaints from me.
The new firmware update makes the D1 compatible with light burn.
A half an hour comparison video and you never even turn on the machines?!? What’s the point?
The new x tool is nothing bad software poor at best its junk.
The laser bounces all over the place when running. The speed on this thing is slower than anything I have running and it IT WILL NOT NOT CUT 1/8th BASS WOOD DONT BUY IT!!!
As of today, this video is irrelevant to D1 except air assist
The only part that has changed is that the D1 can now use Lightburn which I said was going to happen in the video but the hardware and lack of limit switches, etc remain. The Ortur also has no changes so the comparison in spec is still valid.