Pike and Shot to Destroy Cavalry in Bannerlord? Does it Work?

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024

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  • @nikolaspanzella2584
    @nikolaspanzella2584 9 днів тому +17

    Hey brother quality over quantity is the American way! Don’t let these fellow consuming beasts drain you silly. With that being said another great video as usual

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  9 днів тому +11

      Thank you! My publishing mode has always been to release regular content and try to achieve a fairly high level of quality although some of the episodes take multiple days to produce. Still I don't feel pressure at all as mostly I just narrate and play a game for fun and it seems that most of you fellas are either benefiting or are entertained so win-win for all of us. Thanks for the continued support and encouragement!

    • @marcm.
      @marcm. 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@HeadlessHorsemanProductions obviously they are pros and cons to long format and short formats. I personally like long format, having said that, there are a lot of good solid reasons to have the short. For example if I just need a quick primer on how to do something while playing the game. But I like the overall long format because it gives so much more detail in ways that people don't realize, including your commentary

  • @Warhead-haggis
    @Warhead-haggis 9 днів тому +4

    For the record. I'm happy with whatever I get and as often as your willing to post.
    I was wondering about this combo too but the heavy cavalry screen gets the job done well and is less specialised. And of course cav has more use for counter attacking or as a mobile distraction.

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  4 дні тому +1

      Completely agree - and I for sure prefer shield and shock - hence I DO find value in cavalry, but I just wanted to share this for those who want to use pike/shot.

  • @domidoo1753
    @domidoo1753 9 днів тому +6

    if people really want to make pike and shot work without adding new items to the game, theres a mod called "better pikes" which reworks pike formations and the pikes themselves, which makes them able to hold their own in melee and against cavalry, like real pikes actually worked

    • @Lowkey_333
      @Lowkey_333 9 днів тому

      It requires both the combat and the AI modules for RBM to work though

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  9 днів тому

      I love the concept, but like Lowkey_333 noted, it requires the combat module of AI, which I only occasionally use... Ultimately I think pikes work WELL against cavalry, but not well enough overall and sooo weak to enemy archers that they are marginally valuable at best.

    • @kkdj20
      @kkdj20 9 днів тому

      ​@@Lowkey_333 Curious because I'm currently using RBM Combat module only because the AI module has some bugs atm, what features of better pikes dont work without the AI module?

    • @Lowkey_333
      @Lowkey_333 9 днів тому

      @@kkdj20 I'm not sure, but this is coming from the modder of better pikes himself, it's written in the mod description that you need both, and I'm assuming that without the RBM AI then your pikes might not brace 'optimally' (as in, when they should and/or in the direction they should)
      it's also hard to know because RBM isn't always keeping up to date with vanilla game's AI changes (see why we need mods like Siege AI for RBM), so maybe the pikes could work fine with only the combat module working, or not, who knows

  • @andreigeralt7321
    @andreigeralt7321 8 днів тому +2

    I just watched a video from strat gaming regarding pike and shot and now you upload, what are the chances lol

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  8 днів тому

      Probably the algo's working. I remember watching his episode like two years ago, but I wanted to add the optional, and probably better, shield and shock tactic for players out there...

  • @alexlower505
    @alexlower505 8 днів тому

    Good experiment. It's too bad that pikes/spears don't do any bonus damage to cavalry in Bannerlord (to my knowledge) compared to something like AoE. The lack of shield and lack of shock capacity just makes pikemen underpowered. Like you said, the main takeaway is how to protect archers long enough for them to annihilate the enemy. Keep it up!

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 8 днів тому +2

      Pikes dont do extra damage to cav, but thats not the problem. Because of how damage from speed works a pyke alread oneshots a horsemen if they hit them while charging. The problem is that the AI doesnt brace propery so they usually dont hit

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  5 днів тому

      yeah, not great AI

  • @juudjemore3525
    @juudjemore3525 9 днів тому +1

    Nice!

  • @scottmcmillen3015
    @scottmcmillen3015 9 днів тому

    I don’t think pike walls are very effective in spread formation. I get wanting to ensure your ranged units can shoot, but how do pikes do against charging cavalry if you put them in a line? Do they brace spears if they’re in shield wall formation? Would love to see what you can achieve with a few variations. I saw in an older video (probably by Strat Gaming Guides) that when they’re set up on a hill, braced pikes don’t adjust their angle to compensate, so they end up all pointing uselessly above the cavalry’s heads. Has anyone tested if that’s still the case?

  • @lukemadison4550
    @lukemadison4550 9 днів тому

    Are valandian infantry any good I’ve been hearing over and over that your better off just going strictly crossbow men and then using a section of them like infantry over that actual valandian infantry

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions  9 днів тому

      Nah as I think the second battle shows, their infantry is JUST FINE, especially Volgiers in shield/shock tactics, DEVASTATING!

    • @lukemadison4550
      @lukemadison4550 8 днів тому

      That’s fair I’ll have to give them a try some time