Monster Fish Causes Chaos in the 58,000 Gallon Monster Pond
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As long as greedy importers are selling these huge fish and ignorant hobbyists are buying them we will need rescues. I am glad places like OFR exist. People need to stop buying Pacus and all of the giant catfish and gars but as long as importers (even predatory fins) continue to offer them for sale fools will buy them and perpetuate the problem. I don't see a solution unfortunately.
You could say the same about large/dangerous dog breeds that need good training. Or worse, exotic animals that are seriously dangerous (e.g., big cats, poisonous snakes). There needs to be some attempt at real legislation but there's often no will to get it done. Because naive animal enthusiasts will want these interesting animals without recognizing or worrying about their inability to care for them properly. If this is what happens when the pros get these animals in a 50,000+ gallon pool, imagine the damage they'd do in a smaller tank!
Hate to be that guy but did I miss something in another video about the smaller Arapima?
If was me the paroon sharks would be going
Any chance of a 24hour underwater stream in the monster pond, wouldnt be too hard to implement and have a few mods. I would love to have it on in the background while I work. The bigger aquariums are boring - this would be more entertaining.
I feel so bad for those fish... that shovel nose was absolutely torn to shreds. I hope the target feeding takes care of it and they settle down again!
I don’t keep fish but I enjoy watching a multitude of monster fish keepers’ cannels and I still haven’t seen anyone else keep such a massive monster pool pond so well and so naturalistic looking outside of OFR. Those goliaths obviously require a habitat on a grand scale and these folks are doin’ it proper. I love when Josh showcases this one!!
Fish wars 😤 , I would just remove them as another attack will likely kill the injured fish threw stress and injuries
Where is Bruiser?
Good question 🤔
Get those Paroon sharks in a separate tank that you have by themselves. You have plenty of big tanks. Don’t risk your other big monster fish that live in harmony to accommodate 1-2 other fish. That’s the way I see it. I’m not a pro at all. Just hate seeing beautiful monster fish get put into jeopardy because of 2 bad fish.
I know they have many big tanks, but as far as I know, none of them are empty (except maybe Lavaca's tank, but I don't think you'd fit even one of them into her tank). So first they'd have to move all the fish in one tank to other tanks, and hypothetically, those fishes might not get along with their new tank mates, so then they'll need to be moved again, and you can't overcrowd the other tanks, so even OFR's options aren't unlimited.
They have the 2000 just outside the building and under the tarp. But it needs some repairs and where would you put it right now even if it was repaired and back up and running? That being said, those paroons are likely already too big for a 2000g anyway.
safe to say thesse aren't communiy fish, would be better to take them out of there. Those poor other fish the wounds look horrible
Hope they didnt gang up on poor Bruiser
He's gone
Thank you for your video, and for keeping it real for everyone. You really are a brilliant advocate for the hobby.
Maybe the sharks had problems with all those divers in there living area. Got them rilled up
why not put a partition across the low end for the catfish to heal up
Yeah, I also didn't saw Bruiser.
Where is he?
Target feeding should work! It's the method big aquariums use to keep their hammerheads, tiger, bull and sand sharks from attacking one another and also to stop them munching on the other inhabitants of their exhibits.
Also i believe i read somewhere, paroon sharks are seasonal eaters. In the drier seasons, the rivers where they live run lower and the fish populations are more concentrated. Thats when the parooons gorge themselves and fatten up When the monsoons arrive and the rivers flood,the parooons travel upstream to spawn ( like salmon). So I'd definitely keep them over fed for the next 2-3 months. Sad to see that beautiful catfish all chewd up 😫
My favorite part of this pond is the cichlids taking over the cliffs, i wonder if theyre too small or fast to not be eaten, but its like unlimited bait fish haha
The reward for catching one isn't worth the expended calories for going after them, so they're left alone.
The monsters are too well fed
Good Morning! 💙💚
Hoping everyone gets back to getting along! Those Paroon sharks are SO beautiful, but dang!! Extra healing love to the babies! Poor loves ♡ Thank you for keeping an eye and doing all you can, always doing all you can! A bad mama jama!! Ha! Love it! Haven't heard that in a minute! Happy Thursday OFR family! Sending hugs and love to everyone! 💌🦭💌🦈💌
Anyone else wanna just sit down with Josh and buy him a beer? Me too
Ohhhh ohhhh mee me says bigrich lol
Where is the other arapaima?
Best alternative im sure Josh thought about it is having paroon sharks at His house. Start gomefund for enclosure for them. Those paroon sharks seeing them eat with above viewing area would be a treat for all of us. Anyone knows paroons they go wild during feeding.
Good job OFR very informative. I hope to come and visit soon.
Wow! The damage done to those poor catfish, blows my mind. If anyone can figure out how to make this work it’s Big Rich and Josh.
What happened to bruiser
Mekong catfish aren't aggressive and are ok with tank mates. The paroon sharks are aggressive and will eat tank mates. Mekong catfish are readily available in Thailand for cheap
Thanks for explaining the difference between an Iredescent shark and a paroon shark! I never knew, that short body paroon was AMAZING!!
Happy to help!
Hopefully target feeding can solve the problem for now but I am afraid it can happen again if it happened once.
As an alternative to what your supposition about growth, Any chance the people diving/swimming the other day got the sharks riled up a bit somehow? Having some even bigger things swimming around with them suddenly making them agitated about their place in the hierarchy and trying to assert themselves. Sure people have dived before but...
No it's definitely about a hunger issue or territorial issue
id get rid of the paroon sharks tbf theyre to unpredictable .. you're spot on they SHOULD NOT be in the hobby
It's a pity that public aquarium didn't want your paroon sharks off you as well, it would have saved you a lot of headaches and fish loss in the future
They knew it would be giving them headaches 🤣
I would remove the ones that are injured. They sense that and will kill them . Take them out until they heal. Maybe stress ? People swimming in it I don't know . I would put some big tunnels to allow ones who need to get away . I feel bad for the ones who are beat up but I did notice one of those sharks have a nip on its tail . I would set up a camera and see what's up . I'm sure this is stress for you guys .You guys know your fish .
The sharks should definitely be used to fund the rescue. Can’t be a monster fish rescue if they eat everyone that comes in thats under 5ft.
You talking about mekong cats eating other fish, they are just a bigger version of iridescent shark and are totally harmless, they are not vegetarians, they are omnivores, but basically eat fresh water plankton and are not equipped to eat large fish, I should know I've got 10 of them.
Can you post a video of your mekongs?
@@mikek1402 Unfortunately they are in a 1 acre lake, the only time we see them is when they are basking on the surface, they will often swim with the big iridescent sharks in loose shoal.
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We’d like to see the Paroon Sharks in their own aquarium. Someday. However long it takes. It seems like the best option
Fortunately paroon sharks make very tasty fillets.
Thank you for sharing God bless you ⁶and your whole family and friends....🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
That's so sad. I'd maybe contact some aquariums to see if they would take them so that no other fish get hurt.
I'm still amazed that the cichlids are not getting eaten in the pool with all the monster fish.
wow! tyvm for sharing Josh! i never knew that a Paroon Shark would grow that fast!
i think i see Ciclids in the 4,400 tank
Thanks for letting us know about the big tigerfish
Man what a pain in the ass. To bad those paroon sharks dont eat those cichlids more often. I definitely feel for yall I'm sorry that happened. It also sux all these people commenting "call rod" no offense but rod is the one kinda causing this problem. All those pimas yall got, came from him that people bought on impulse. I called it 2 years ago and now yall got what like 5 or 6 and like 4 are all the same size?
you should sell the sharks
Maybe more places for the catfish to hide??
do you think that the attacks could be related to a seasonal thing? like if they are inn a breeding mode they might get more aggresive and territorial.
Yes its possible
I miss your Goliath tiger fish he was an amazing fish
This is absolutely fascinating to me. Never thought something would go after a huge redtail. You should give these menaces more camera time!
Wow. Take the IR filter out of a camera.. And buy a cheap Infra Red Illuminator on eBay for 20 bucks..
Night vision on the cheap.
No, they need their own SPACE with their OWN KIND ! !
The paroons seems to be in a rampage mode..
Also, add some big caves for red tails and other catfish, paroon sharks are middle swimmers the other cats are bottom and cave dwellers
This is why Alora's not going swimming in the monster pond 🤪
😁😂🤣
So true!
Maybe when she’s bigger than the fishes in there
Hahaha it'll be fineeeeeeeee
Maybe when she's bigger than Brutus
@@brittany3913
😄 sounds right
It would be fine with bodyguards in the water with her
Definitely put sume tunnels fish can hide in
I've said this many times
Good morning Josh.
I wouldn't have thought they would do that. WOW. Hope they make it
Play safe have fun
It’s sad, but it’s nature. And the OFR is the best place for fish. Hard choices need to be made to reject fish because of the damage they cause,n
Not to bag on him, i love predatory fins, but we all need to hit up Rod and get him not to breed these guys cuz as much as we all want to believe he's trying to do something good, he's just becoming part of the problem.
I bit my tongue NOT to call Rod out for that cuz BR doesn't like negative comments but then Rod openly said it about himself on the OFR video where he was doing the mermaid swim iirc. Truth!
Hey Josh put a camera in the monster pond and see what happens at night. Something like a go pro and leave it over night
Great viewing 👌
Grate video today!
Damn they did damage
Can you net off the hurt fish till they heal? Now that they are hurt they will be a target for more abuse.
#TeamTracy
Good morning OFR
Wow poor guys. Your right these fish should not be in the hobby
Sad...hopefully the divers didn't cause this! Never know what may have been on there gear! I would think twice about letting people into the pond with some type of cleaning procedures...😬
It's definitely not from the divers it's either a hunger issue or a territorial thing
Paroon sharks, jerks of the pond!
Looks like a torpedoes swimming around. It's sad to say, but maybe only have one of the same species in that pond might slow down the egression .When you have a pack of big dogs usually they win over. Noithing better than fresh foods 😋
I know its bad. But my thought be like during this video.
Him: What are you supposed to do when these fish do this?
Me: Cook em up.
Hopefully everything gets worked out in the monster pond. Those Paroon’s are No Joke! Good to hear about the donation for the Tiger fish, I Hope that Helps you guys out, I can’t imagine what you guys must spend for food and electricity. You guys deserve it for all the Hard work you do!
I'm sorry for the wounded fish, but I like that you show the downsides, and problems that can come with fish owning, too, and not just the nice days. Hope feeding them more stops the problem, and that the wounded fishes heals as swiftly as possible. But in the end of the day, even when you do the best you can, fish will still be fish, and won't always behave the way we humans wants them to.
Hope the Vittatus tigerfish you donated to an aquarium enjoys their new home.
It's pretty lousy when they won't get along like you were hoping they would! That's rough.
I wonder did having those divers in the tank set the fish into survival of the fittest mode.
Can you recover the injured fish inside the 58,000 but inside an enclosure in the pool, like a Childs playpen" Maybe something a bit bigger made to fit and keep them safe and secure but get the benefit of the treated H2O! Just spit balling here...Get Well Soon!
You should get a surveillance camera for the pond to catch all these incidents and maybe prevent casualties.
where is bruiser
Great video josh 👍🐟👊💯
❤ the content as always
Barricade them in an area of the pond with a net.
Put the net back up for the red tails
Damn! Can’t believe you guys sold the vittatus. But good for the rescue in terms of the rescue money!
He went to a bigger home than I can provide.
@@ohio-fish-rescue Full respect for doing the best interest for the fish long term. I know it would’ve been hard for me to let go of such a big ATF!
It's always a bummer when your favorite fish gets beat up by new fish.
I HOPE you don't KEEP THEM in this pond, cause if so
you may be losing a lot more fish to these monsters.
Have they been eating the cichlids, it would be mad interesting to see if fish ever go after them.
Serious comment: Would adding more structure help,
Not serious comment: Time for another monster pond build ;)
Cant you get a big net and weigh it down and put the injured fish in that area til they heal?
Is it possible to put a divider in the pool? 13:02
That flat acrylic tank you changed your mind about keeping over your pacu tank can be set in the shallow end of the pool with netting on top as a hospital timeout ward for victim fish to heal up protected from the attacking fish. We saw that the aggressor fish can jump over a seine net across the pool too easily so try the acrylic bed with a net weighted down over top as a gimp ward? U could even drop a circulation pump in it if dead flow zones are a concern.
Scary, but great video Josh!
Damn they look like zombies!
Poor catfishies
The only good thing about this happening, is all of us learning MORE about these fish & their behaviors.
So glad to hear ya’ll got a good donation & the fish got a bigger home. 😊
Great job on todays video Josh.
P.s we need your skills for fishy Friday 😂 at the least just set up the stream then feel free to go home & spend time with your girls. 😊
It wasn't me not being there my dad is more than capable, but we got it figured out. The old software changed everything and we can no longer schedule live streams with it. So it'll be streamyards from hear on out pretty much
@@ohio-fish-rescue
Okie dokie
Thank you
We were joking around in the live chat that it wasn’t working due to you not being there 🤪🤣
Victor from fish story just uploaded a video where the Indian shovel nose is troubling the paroon sharks. Man i love both of your videos.
Great video ! I really hope those fish recover. It's a crazy world they live in .......eat or be eaten!!!!..........unless you can surpress those rumbling bellys.
Mekong cats are more herbivores than predatory. That's probably their saving grace because if they were that mean they would be persecuted for it.
Some fish should never be removed from the wild ….period 😢
How do you identify a short bodied from stunted ( fish that didn't grow do to small quarters)
I would just take them out and relocate them if not olive oil time.
Your jungle is growing in fantastically!! I imagine you will see more natural behavior from the fish as it gets denser.
Sorry to hear more bad news. You guy’s have had a rough bit lately. Hopefully thing’s turn around. I know things like this present some real challenges. I am confident you will come up with some good ideas.
How’s Bruiser I didn’t see him in there unless he was hiding?
I didn’t see any of the channel cats anymore either.
Hope they weren’t victims
Sorry to see your damaged fish. Personally, I'd try an re-home those Paroons. It's a bit like a dog that bites. Once you see it's capable of aggression like that, you can never fully trust that it won't do the same or possibly worse again. Good luck and love your videos.
I would section off the paroon sharks with a net for the time being, just to let the cats heal. Hope nobody else gets hurt :(
Its possibly be because there younger as the ones the ones tanks in the tanks haven't done it my theory is breeding behaviour or a dominates thing or territorial because they have to much space maybe just a few theories
I'd say that it's time for the paroon sharks to go bye bye. Set them up in a smaller tank. Y'all got some really big tanks there. There's the 2 out under that tarp that you usually quarantine koi in. Use one for the sharks. That still leaves one for quarantine of the koi. If you don't take them out, then you will loose every fish in the pool pond. By leaving them in there your not doing right by the other fish. And no, the sharks won't have as much room as they have in the pond, but they would have adequate room in one of those tub ponds. And that's all they need to survive. But the better point is that all of the other fish will get to survive to. Your already feeding them enough for them to be doing this out of hunger. If they were doing it from hunger, then those red tails would have huge chunks of meat missing. The sharks are doing this because they're mean. And no amount of food is going to help with meanness. So for the sake of the other fish, take them out. I don't usually question anything that you guys do. But this is the one time that I am questioning you. Take them out.
But even though the tubs are under a tarp, they're still outdoors, so I presume the tub would need a big amount of isolation material added to it, plus something heating the water, for the Paroon sharks to maybe survive in one of those tubs during the Winter. It sounds like a very costly option to me.
@@FinnishLapphund More costly than the other fish in the pool pond? Have to weigh the loss. IMO
@@FinnishLapphund Also, they could move the tubs inside. Somewhere. Or wrap it with insulation and put in a couple of heaters. That wouldn't be all that expensive.
@@cathyhendrix7552But we don't even know yet, if feeding the Paroon sharks more will stop the problem behaviour, or not. Admittedly, I don't know anything about the cost of electricity in Ohio, but judging by the rampant cost of electricity in my country currently (I've e.g. bought myself fleece gloves to wear indoors), I'd say it's fully possible that trying to keep Paroon sharks alive in an outdoor tub could end up costing much more than an arm and a leg.
And considering the size of those outdoor tubs, I don't get where they'd be able to squeeze one of them in, indoors. Maybe they could remove the seating area near the pond, but then guests have nowhere to sit down indoors, and guests may give donations, which helps the rescue...
@@FinnishLapphund IDK. But if those sharks had been biting the cats because of hunger, then there would, at the very least, be a couple of big, meaty chunks missing. That's just common sense. This seems more like a power play or like a bully picking on the scrawny kid on the playground. BUT I don't know everything about fish. So all I did was give my opinion. I really do have to bow to Josh and Big Rich. They do know way more than me.
I appreciate you guys emphasize that these monster fish should not really be in the hobby. sometimes online i see people keep multiple alligator gar in a glass aquarium, but it's almost impossible to keep them full size.
anyway could part of the issue with the sharks be territorty? even with a whole pool, when fish are so large they might get mad when they see each other. they already have a bunch of driftwood so idk if more hides would help or if you just have to cope. good luck though lol
I was thinking the same - to add many more line of sight breaks in the pool.
hmmm i would make a partition and jailed the guilty paroon, it will happened again , btw where the Aimara ?