A lot of people use Tinder, at least, for hookups, which keeps you in the dating pool while still finding success, probably the ideal customer for them.
@@PyrusnVentusjust because they have infinite potential doesn't mean they won't try to maximize how much they will milk their customers. It would help them more to have people in revolving door relationships as they would keep going back to the app. People still will say it works with finding people, but wouldn't fault the app for bad match ups, just the relationship not working out
As soon as my suspicions were confirmed that fake profiles were created to get your hopes up I was done with those apps. Some times I hate this world. 😂😂😂
I was actually suspicious of this WAY back then, so I decided to say something controversial to people as an opener and actually got a response. She wasn't happy of course, but it made me sad that that's what it took to get a response. The others I suspect ignored me anyway, were fake accounts or inactive ones.
I met my wife on POF 13 years ago, but dating apps were different back then. You could actually meet people and build a relationship without a lot of difficulty.
Too bad I was I was too young for dating apps then. I was a teenager then just obsessed with goth culture, video games, skateboarding and technology with no dating experience whatsoever. Now that I am in my late 20s I started using dating apps in late 2021 and judging from my experience. Yes alot of scammers, fake profiles and game players plague these sites but I did get a few meetups and some of those meetups were a complete waste of time.
when I stopped using dating apps 20years ago it was like 100 man profiles for each woman profile... How is it now? All the women I've met in my life have been in real life
I honestly think that people in the past did have it a lot easier because they were always interacting with each other in the same community. People mostly stayed in the same location and didn't migrate much. Nowadays, people may constantly switch jobs for job opportunities or may pursue hobbies that tend to attract mostly men or mostly women. People are always hustling and bustling. In the past, people had their family and friends helping out. A family friend might suggest so-and-so, and the person would go check it out. Honestly, I think the old-fashioned way is also much safer too because the family member and friends can help do a background check on the person. Say your mom is good friends with another mom, and your mom has you and the friend has a son. Your mom and the other mom think that you and the son will make a good couple together. You are both of equal status--equal level of education, equal standing in life, equal family background, etc. Plus, your mom knows her best friend's personality so she knows her friend will be a good mother-in-law to you. Then, your mom and the other mom set up you and the son.
Interestingly, in the US at least, people are a lot less mobile now than even 30yrs ago. They call it the "Miles from Mom" distance, basically how far away you live as an adult vs where you grew up. So yes, folks may change jobs and hustle more, but they are still interacting with the same pool of people, in roughly the same place, for their entire lives. The bigger changes have been that families got smaller and more nuclear (no extended family to hang out with their friends), that people don't make or retain friends (especially post-school), and that many of the most-common "hobbies & interests" are solitary in your house, where you won't interact with anyone. In the past it was still tough, since you had to risk your own safety even on early dates, and risk rejection in-person (or on the phone). But I think Gen X and older at least had more social skills and willingness to participate socially in the world compared to Millennials & Gen Z.
@@mandisaw My boomer parents actually just call their friends to keep in touch instead of the random text that goes nowhere. Maybe it's just me, but some of my friends cannot hold a conversation through text, but in person they don't shut up.
Met my GF on an app, but it literally took 3 years of daily swiping. I made sure to only swipe within my league, too. Ironically, she had paid for premium, while I had not.
If you are not able to get a date Freemium, you will not get dates premiums. Spend money on gym,self care and unteresting hobbies first. And then on dating apps. Just 3 months of walking, working out and -10kg and a barber changed the quality of my matches despite me not having fashinable clothes or pictures in Paris.
Dating apps are prime playgrounds for predators pretending to be normal onscreen; normal people with insecurities feeling the pressure to gloss their profiles or else they'll be ignored often; and one-night standees. Finding people wanting genuine connections is tough nowadays😢
Yup. Hence the focus on visuals instead of compatibility, and the use of UX and gameification tactics lifted from genres with heavily male demographics. Wish they had been more explicit about how MatchGroup basically owns everything too. All those individual brands are just a coat of paint on top of the same tech.
I did pay for dating apps for a few years but never again. I was lucky and did get a few GFs from the site when I did pay for the app. However, I met a woman who kept hitting me physically. I couldn’t stop her. This happened 3 year ago and I’m still emotionally hurt by her hitting me. What’s worst is in a guy so my voice doesn’t matter. Never again.
Another guy here, also hit by an ex gf. It's hard when you can't talk about it. Best advice I can give is to take it as a learning experience and use it for your own growth. Stay well man
Dating apps only facilitates meeting, it has no power to vet or match you to a soul mate, that's all on you. It's funny that people choose an alternative like a run club that is disguised as a dating meet, but that's effectively random, you can still do random on a dating app.
It's time to go back to organic dating, guys! Ask your friends to match you with some of their single friends. I have a list of elegible bachelors and bachelorette friends and I match them whenever it suits :D
Honestly it just depends on your perspective and retrospective of how you been dating. I landed my first major relationship through hinge and I didn't pay for the app. Sadly that relationship ended and when I went back on hinge, I did actually try the paid version. It honestly didn't garner me better results. It just kept me on the app longer because I got to use everything unlimitedly. I kind of like the restrictions because they keep you grounded in reality. When you pay for something, logically you expect results. And honestly, I've gotten the best results just using the free version of the app. So just do what you're comfortable doing at the end of the day There is no right or wrong answer.
Great video and it hits all the major points. One thing I will mention is that building a good profile is an art in itself. Its very similar to making a resume for a job. Not just having the right information but how to format it in a way that people will want to read it.
I met my gf in a dating app; she was a paying customer, I had been a paying customer in the past but I was not at the time. I don't think there is anything wrong with paying for a dating app, but you need to understand you aren't gonna meet Leonardo DiCaprio just because you paid.
I used to use dating apps in the past. After paying for upgrade "memberships" to focus on "ideal" matches then it cost me more $$$ 💵in the long run. Where I got either catfished or try to be exploited for more $$$💰. I haven't returned or used them now in over 10 years. There are a waste and total scam. I prefer to remain single.
I can tell you this much, from my 7-8 years of online dating experience, spending money doesn't mean diddly-squat, if your personality, interests, manner of speech, dress, etc. is different from both the general median, of all humans in a geographical area at a particular time on a particular app, or a specific median, for example a black, punk man, who speaks Russian. It just means, more visibility, more interaction, more messages = more rejection, more ghostings, more dead-end dates, more conversations that lead nowhere, etc.
Tall, muscular, attractive (and financially successful) guy here with a cute catchy bio. I very occasionally get a girl asking for a hookup but almost never dates. It's almost as if the entire app itself is fake and the algorithm just straight up hides you. It's a waste of money.
In insurance, the more insurance company deny the client and don't pay a claim, the more they become successful. Similar with dating apps, the more you can't find a partner, the more they earn and become successful. Welcome to the new age of capitalism! Where the companies get successful the more they don't do the job they're supposed to do.
I stopped using dating apps a while ago, in the case of tinder when I matched someone and started a conversation the match didn't respond and there's a time limit if the other person doesn't respond, then the match is canceled and it became a excruciating experience to repeat the same pattern, thank goodness I never payed a lot of money to stay in
I really want them to do a path comparison on this. What is cheaper in the long run when it comes to dating IRL or dating apps? You spend money on both paths.
Work on becoming the perfect partner- Yes, agreed- amazing advice. From there, find a social hobby- Odds are the people you find there will be like minded enough that you should be compatible.
The sooner everybody deletes all dating apps, the better will the dating pool become for everyone. The only way that online dating could possibly work would be if it was aperated as a government funded, non-profit public service. In that case, the incentive would be to get people to build lasting relationships, not to have them keep coming back through the revolving door.
Ive been always wondering why young people are not in dating but while watching this video it occurred to me that it makes sense that they don't need dating apps! Just in school alone they meet and see so much people! add more people they don't know in person on social media....then it becomes too much.
Dont do it. Ive bought most apps services when they discount them and none improve your odds. Bots, paid users (by the company) matching with you to give you hope, the algorithms to get you to buy more have all ruined online dating. It was a way to connect for introverts. Now its just another shady tech business. Ive consistently bought subscriptions over the years and ALWAYS get matches right after i buy it and after the subscription ends. Its so disgusting
Met my wife on Tinder 7 years ago. Payed to see who swiped me. I just don`t understand why every simplest US app shoud be on stock market, and to have billions in investments. Does not make any sense to me. Create a old school forum, where people say Hi to each other, BOOM billions pouring from investors.
I’m curious what AI influenced/ assisted dating services will do in the future dating game. What can it offer us users that a the current services can’t?
I think that everyone should pay a flat fee per month BUT you can put in your preferences and you have full access to those people. You also get access to everyone else and people who liked you. But no more of this, pay extra to get…blah blah blah. One flat fee per month, full access. Period.
"gay" WE DONT CARE. NOTHING Special, it just another dating app. So, seeing that you are SINGLE, clearly " gays of America" dont care where you go, they already REJECTED YOU. 🤣🤣🤣
8:44 The problem is people aren't open to a cold meeting, or as the kids call it "meet cute". There's lots of accusations of being called a creep. People can't even entertain a conversation and just politely decline an advance (and politely accept it). And I've seen many women want to avoid the awkwardness and advocate "if I wanted to a man, I'd be on a dating app." 😒
Saying that implies you used to do it or entertain it. A modest lady wouldn’t need to say it, it would be implied. Of course men will continue to want hookups with you if you have presented yourself in the past as prone to hookups (pun intended)
LOL at 1:26. So true. Mostly every single match I get from a woman they ask right away, What do you do for work? If you are spending $1000 a week on a dating app, you better find a perfect person or you are doing life wrong.
I guess, it’s obvious that they will try making money on everything nowadays. Funny thing is, that people buy it and they are willing to pay. Mostly, because looking for partner is our natural need. Some clever people just found good ways to monetarize it. The only problem is, that they are getting greedier over time and people are getting disappointed using the Apps. But I am sure, that there will occur some new-brand technologies very soon. We can just watch how they will start earning money in new ways :)
so in short: screw dating apps, never pay for love...u are better off payin a prostitute for a one-night stand or paying an escort that payin for these apps
MEN would mathmatically have better success betting that dating app money at Casino, than finding a match on a dating app. Go have fun guys, and stop chasing women. You'll be happier and more successful.
2:45 Getting more people on the app isn't as valuable as they think it is. It's the value of people who are actually serious about looking. Women are using Tinder just to feel validated if for some reason Instagram likes wasn't enough for them.
My friend tried subscription for dating apps recently and it is awful. 1. Full of scammers (he was getting calls that he talked to a minor and needs to pay $2000 for FBI to leave him alone) 2. Uninteresting people (most are using app for fun and not seriously)
There are numerous scientific studies from a variety of areas such as psychology, Data and computer science, sociology etc that show that dating apps are not a good way to interact. Unless you are a statistical select few ie about 10% then the math and human psychology of dating apps does not work and your efforts will be better spent finding someone in person.
I am marrying my best friend, and I met her on Tinder. I didn't pay for any upgrades or subscriptions. This is anecdotal evidence that you can find someone, on a dating app, for free. It's up to you at the end of the day.
8:00 imagine if a store was selling 30% defective items or rotten food. Imagine car dealership selling 30% of cars that will crash and kill their passengers and drivers
The Corpo-Christian Match buying all the other companies really made the whole industry trash, especially for the non hetero-normative. They know they are doing damage, but profit over people is their moto.
"Pissing match of egos, fuck their vanity Ain’t got the time, I don’t want anything from you..."-Slayer They meant it in a different context, but that's how I see society and especially dating apps,today.
I feel this video (and rightly so for tone) skipped over the fact that many use these apps for hook up culture. In that way apps are really just middle men in the "oldest profession around" to be frank. Its why Grindr is one of the few dating apps that is actually is profitable to some extent.
Grindr is profitable because there are a lot of gay men looking for hookups in places or situations where they cannot do so IRL (or choose not to). If it's a more religious or socially-conservative place, or even places with serious anti-LGBT laws, then Grindr is basically the only game in town. You just don't really have that kind of monopoly in hetero-based contexts. (Even in countries where unmarried men & women aren't supposed to date or interact, those people come up with workarounds - although dating apps do better there as well.)
I feel like you overlooked a major thing that also happens on the apps; prostitution. And not just the women that scam you for free meals, etc.. but actual prostitution
It is funny listening to younger people talk about watching Sex and the City for the first time realizing that dating wasn't that great in the 90s either.
What the video didn’t touch on is that as with most of these things, there’s also what’s happening to your data. The industry’s privacy policy as a whole is pretty bleak.
As a society and culture we need to stop romanticizing romantic relationships. Not everyone needs and should to find a mate. This only feeds into the insecurity of people . match making should be done by altruistic organisations that facilitate IRL communities of common interests, sporting clubs , chess clubs , fishing clubs, cooking clubs whatever the club may be.
I would never pay for an app 😂 Its filled with idiots who only swipe based on looks and have no other criteria. I would be willing to pay if; 1.The cost is the same for all people on the app 2. The app forces you to write actual substance not just some pictures and a one sentece "just ask" or " message me" bio. 3. Includes real metrics such as income, debt, credit score, lifestyle and forces you to prove it. 4. Allows real ways to eliminate useless clutter of people who clearly arent serious 5. You can remove people who arent in the same league
It's not in their interest that you find your match, because that would mean you'd uninstall their app and lose money
Not really, they in theory have an infinite pool of potential users and if everyone thinks it doesn’t work, fewer new people will sign up and pay.
@@PyrusnVentus They dont, theres a big gender disparity on Dating Apps. A lot of the men spending are talking to fake accounts
A lot of people use Tinder, at least, for hookups, which keeps you in the dating pool while still finding success, probably the ideal customer for them.
@@PyrusnVentusjust because they have infinite potential doesn't mean they won't try to maximize how much they will milk their customers.
It would help them more to have people in revolving door relationships as they would keep going back to the app. People still will say it works with finding people, but wouldn't fault the app for bad match ups, just the relationship not working out
You mean they'd lose money and you'll get to keep your money
"Instead of searching for the perfect partner, work on becoming the perfect partner yourself" - wise words!
As soon as my suspicions were confirmed that fake profiles were created to get your hopes up I was done with those apps. Some times I hate this world. 😂😂😂
I was actually suspicious of this WAY back then, so I decided to say something controversial to people as an opener and actually got a response. She wasn't happy of course, but it made me sad that that's what it took to get a response. The others I suspect ignored me anyway, were fake accounts or inactive ones.
I am done paying for dating apps just to be told or swiped that I am not attractive enough. No more dating apps for me.
I met my wife on POF 13 years ago, but dating apps were different back then. You could actually meet people and build a relationship without a lot of difficulty.
Yeah I also met my husband in POF 15 years ago, now POF is horrible! fool of scammers, match is better I believe!
Too bad I was I was too young for dating apps then. I was a teenager then just obsessed with goth culture, video games, skateboarding and technology with no dating experience whatsoever. Now that I am in my late 20s I started using dating apps in late 2021 and judging from my experience. Yes alot of scammers, fake profiles and game players plague these sites but I did get a few meetups and some of those meetups were a complete waste of time.
For men, specially lonely men it’s a hope. For women, well they don’t pay cause they are the product.
Men are the product as well. the SUCKER products... but still products.
when I stopped using dating apps 20years ago it was like 100 man profiles for each woman profile... How is it now? All the women I've met in my life have been in real life
winners win, losers lose. 🤣
You can place them in front of 10 girls but without knowledge and skill they can't attract anyone
@@fft2020 It's something like 80% men now I understand. Pretty gross.
Met my GF through an app.
I honestly think that people in the past did have it a lot easier because they were always interacting with each other in the same community. People mostly stayed in the same location and didn't migrate much.
Nowadays, people may constantly switch jobs for job opportunities or may pursue hobbies that tend to attract mostly men or mostly women.
People are always hustling and bustling.
In the past, people had their family and friends helping out. A family friend might suggest so-and-so, and the person would go check it out.
Honestly, I think the old-fashioned way is also much safer too because the family member and friends can help do a background check on the person.
Say your mom is good friends with another mom, and your mom has you and the friend has a son. Your mom and the other mom think that you and the son will make a good couple together. You are both of equal status--equal level of education, equal standing in life, equal family background, etc. Plus, your mom knows her best friend's personality so she knows her friend will be a good mother-in-law to you. Then, your mom and the other mom set up you and the son.
Interestingly, in the US at least, people are a lot less mobile now than even 30yrs ago. They call it the "Miles from Mom" distance, basically how far away you live as an adult vs where you grew up. So yes, folks may change jobs and hustle more, but they are still interacting with the same pool of people, in roughly the same place, for their entire lives.
The bigger changes have been that families got smaller and more nuclear (no extended family to hang out with their friends), that people don't make or retain friends (especially post-school), and that many of the most-common "hobbies & interests" are solitary in your house, where you won't interact with anyone.
In the past it was still tough, since you had to risk your own safety even on early dates, and risk rejection in-person (or on the phone). But I think Gen X and older at least had more social skills and willingness to participate socially in the world compared to Millennials & Gen Z.
Too many options is a bad thing. With the way dating dynamics work, the options fall to the women.
The problem is women today don't want equality. They want a meal ticket by holding out for the billionaire model vampire.
@@mandisaw My boomer parents actually just call their friends to keep in touch instead of the random text that goes nowhere. Maybe it's just me, but some of my friends cannot hold a conversation through text, but in person they don't shut up.
Met my GF on an app, but it literally took 3 years of daily swiping. I made sure to only swipe within my league, too. Ironically, she had paid for premium, while I had not.
I wish the best for you... But a very point keyword "girlfriend". Hopefully it manifest into something meaningful. 😐
damn so she's not your dream girl physically
If you are not able to get a date Freemium, you will not get dates premiums.
Spend money on gym,self care and unteresting hobbies first.
And then on dating apps.
Just 3 months of walking, working out and -10kg and a barber changed the quality of my matches despite me not having fashinable clothes or pictures in Paris.
I haven’t seen you guys in a long time. You guys are aging backwards 🥰.
I used two dating apps and it has been the worst experience on the internet I have ever had till this day.
That's what every woman-friend of mine has ever said - like a huge neon sign saying "NO!" LOL
Its wild they're complaining about losing money when they accidentally ban a lot of their users and have no real process for them to fight the ban
#casual hinge permaban
I remember getting swept up in the ban wave.
Compared to the rest of my social media presence my dating profiles were probably the cleanest
@@prettyboyjeremy 😂
Dating apps are prime playgrounds for predators pretending to be normal onscreen; normal people with insecurities feeling the pressure to gloss their profiles or else they'll be ignored often; and one-night standees. Finding people wanting genuine connections is tough nowadays😢
Dating apps are not safe for women
Dating apps have an incentive to keep to on the app. That’s the problem
Just get out there, join a gym, go to the library, bookstores, target, just get out there. That's the secret
Too shy and disassociated
That’s not enough, the secret is you have to actually make an effort to ask girls out at those places. They aren’t going to ask you out.
@@amazinglats6020 I thought the rest was implied! But meeting the "one" shouldn't be a commodity to be sold
@@amazinglats6020isnt that considered harassment?
@@Lam-ba-Lam if you ask the red pill community they’ll say yes. But most women like to be approached in reality, even if they still reject you.
Its mostly targeting men
Yup. Hence the focus on visuals instead of compatibility, and the use of UX and gameification tactics lifted from genres with heavily male demographics. Wish they had been more explicit about how MatchGroup basically owns everything too. All those individual brands are just a coat of paint on top of the same tech.
@@mandisaw you mean - hence 99% of profiles are fake AI generated bots. Fixed it for ya
Facts
I did pay for dating apps for a few years but never again. I was lucky and did get a few GFs from the site when I did pay for the app. However, I met a woman who kept hitting me physically. I couldn’t stop her. This happened 3 year ago and I’m still emotionally hurt by her hitting me. What’s worst is in a guy so my voice doesn’t matter. Never again.
Stay strong king, don’t allow your heart to go bitter. You matter
I’m sorry to hear that my friend, stay positive 💛
Another guy here, also hit by an ex gf.
It's hard when you can't talk about it. Best advice I can give is to take it as a learning experience and use it for your own growth. Stay well man
Dating apps only facilitates meeting, it has no power to vet or match you to a soul mate, that's all on you. It's funny that people choose an alternative like a run club that is disguised as a dating meet, but that's effectively random, you can still do random on a dating app.
It's time to go back to organic dating, guys! Ask your friends to match you with some of their single friends. I have a list of elegible bachelors and bachelorette friends and I match them whenever it suits :D
When you cancel your subscription make sure to check your statements to make sure they are not still charging you.
Honestly it just depends on your perspective and retrospective of how you been dating. I landed my first major relationship through hinge and I didn't pay for the app. Sadly that relationship ended and when I went back on hinge, I did actually try the paid version. It honestly didn't garner me better results. It just kept me on the app longer because I got to use everything unlimitedly. I kind of like the restrictions because they keep you grounded in reality. When you pay for something, logically you expect results. And honestly, I've gotten the best results just using the free version of the app. So just do what you're comfortable doing at the end of the day There is no right or wrong answer.
I'm not going to lie. I'm terrified of doing online dating cuz you just don't know who you going to get or you going to get catfished or something
Much worst, you just got a serial killer.
Great video and it hits all the major points. One thing I will mention is that building a good profile is an art in itself. Its very similar to making a resume for a job. Not just having the right information but how to format it in a way that people will want to read it.
BS
I met my gf in a dating app; she was a paying customer, I had been a paying customer in the past but I was not at the time.
I don't think there is anything wrong with paying for a dating app, but you need to understand you aren't gonna meet Leonardo DiCaprio just because you paid.
I've never used a dating app, so this was very interesting. I had no idea there was so much money involved.
Also, even if they aren’t a scam, anyone who kicks off a romantic encounter by plugging crypto isn’t worth your time
I used to use dating apps in the past. After paying for upgrade "memberships" to focus on "ideal" matches then it cost me more $$$ 💵in the long run. Where I got either catfished or try to be exploited for more $$$💰. I haven't returned or used them now in over 10 years. There are a waste and total scam. I prefer to remain single.
I can tell you this much, from my 7-8 years of online dating experience, spending money doesn't mean diddly-squat, if your personality, interests, manner of speech, dress, etc. is different from both the general median, of all humans in a geographical area at a particular time on a particular app, or a specific median, for example a black, punk man, who speaks Russian.
It just means, more visibility, more interaction, more messages = more rejection, more ghostings, more dead-end dates, more conversations that lead nowhere, etc.
Tall, muscular, attractive (and financially successful) guy here with a cute catchy bio. I very occasionally get a girl asking for a hookup but almost never dates. It's almost as if the entire app itself is fake and the algorithm just straight up hides you. It's a waste of money.
Did you pay for premium?
@@RK-ow1zg Sure did.
Face it bro, dating apps ARE hookup apps. Especially if you’re an attractive guy. The optionality swings back your way.
Huh. So did you meet any of them in person? Do you realize “asking for hookup” but never meeting can be a scam. Fake bot profiles
that's some serious shade thrown on e-harmony 🤣
In insurance, the more insurance company deny the client and don't pay a claim, the more they become successful.
Similar with dating apps, the more you can't find a partner, the more they earn and become successful.
Welcome to the new age of capitalism! Where the companies get successful the more they don't do the job they're supposed to do.
They don’t need to “deny” anything. 99% of men will get denied no matter what. That’s called natural selection
I stopped using dating apps a while ago, in the case of tinder when I matched someone and started a conversation the match didn't respond and there's a time limit if the other person doesn't respond, then the match is canceled and it became a excruciating experience to repeat the same pattern, thank goodness I never payed a lot of money to stay in
Yes you matched with a bot. That’s why they don’t respond
No. Waste of time and so many entitled people and narcissists on there.
I really want them to do a path comparison on this. What is cheaper in the long run when it comes to dating IRL or dating apps? You spend money on both paths.
What app is “IRL”? I googled it and can’t find it? 😂
😂
😂😂😂 In real life
Boomer ahh humor
In real life
without third spaces it's really difficult to meet people "naturally"
Work on becoming the perfect partner- Yes, agreed- amazing advice. From there, find a social hobby- Odds are the people you find there will be like minded enough that you should be compatible.
The sooner everybody deletes all dating apps, the better will the dating pool become for everyone.
The only way that online dating could possibly work would be if it was aperated as a government funded, non-profit public service. In that case, the incentive would be to get people to build lasting relationships, not to have them keep coming back through the revolving door.
Ive been always wondering why young people are not in dating but while watching this video it occurred to me that it makes sense that they don't need dating apps! Just in school alone they meet and see so much people! add more people they don't know in person on social media....then it becomes too much.
Just a few weeks ago, I didn’t even know Alemio existed, and now I’m all in. This presale has been a wild ride!
Dont do it. Ive bought most apps services when they discount them and none improve your odds. Bots, paid users (by the company) matching with you to give you hope, the algorithms to get you to buy more have all ruined online dating. It was a way to connect for introverts. Now its just another shady tech business. Ive consistently bought subscriptions over the years and ALWAYS get matches right after i buy it and after the subscription ends. Its so disgusting
You forgot crypto scammers. And they target both men and women.
Met my wife on Tinder 7 years ago. Payed to see who swiped me.
I just don`t understand why every simplest US app shoud be on stock market, and to have billions in investments. Does not make any sense to me. Create a old school forum, where people say Hi to each other, BOOM billions pouring from investors.
I would.pay serious money for a match making service at this point. Been single for 13 years and increasingly it is looking hopeless.
I still firmly believe the best way to meet someone is going old school , face to face.
I’m curious what AI influenced/ assisted dating services will do in the future dating game. What can it offer us users that a the current services can’t?
Thanks for the financial and also motivational lesson
Merry christmas TwoCents
I think that everyone should pay a flat fee per month BUT you can put in your preferences and you have full access to those people. You also get access to everyone else and people who liked you. But no more of this, pay extra to get…blah blah blah. One flat fee per month, full access. Period.
I tried all gay dating apps for years, never worked for me. Now I'm moving abroad and starting a new life. Goodbye gays of America!
"gay" WE DONT CARE. NOTHING Special, it just another dating app. So, seeing that you are SINGLE, clearly " gays of America" dont care where you go, they already REJECTED YOU. 🤣🤣🤣
Keep us updated?
8:44 The problem is people aren't open to a cold meeting, or as the kids call it "meet cute". There's lots of accusations of being called a creep. People can't even entertain a conversation and just politely decline an advance (and politely accept it). And I've seen many women want to avoid the awkwardness and advocate "if I wanted to a man, I'd be on a dating app." 😒
Am I the only one that still finds Phillip's opening photo with the neat hair and moustache jarring? XD
Is gold and silver a safe asset and what are other safe options other than precious metals?
with fake accounts, scams, bots etc? nope
The bonus structure for early investors is what pushed me to act fast. Alemio is rewarding the community in all the right ways.
I intentionally put no hookups, and I got a lot more questions! Are you sure? Are you kidding, I could change your mind!😅 This was okcupid.😂
Ewwww
Saying that implies you used to do it or entertain it. A modest lady wouldn’t need to say it, it would be implied. Of course men will continue to want hookups with you if you have presented yourself in the past as prone to hookups (pun intended)
LOL at 1:26. So true. Mostly every single match I get from a woman they ask right away, What do you do for work? If you are spending $1000 a week on a dating app, you better find a perfect person or you are doing life wrong.
I'm disenchanted from romance, because most women are only looking for a meal ticket. 😒 Or at least the ones on dating apps.
This may be PBS's only decent show.
I guess, it’s obvious that they will try making money on everything nowadays. Funny thing is, that people buy it and they are willing to pay. Mostly, because looking for partner is our natural need. Some clever people just found good ways to monetarize it. The only problem is, that they are getting greedier over time and people are getting disappointed using the Apps. But I am sure, that there will occur some new-brand technologies very soon. We can just watch how they will start earning money in new ways :)
so in short: screw dating apps, never pay for love...u are better off payin a prostitute for a one-night stand or paying an escort that payin for these apps
Aren’t prostitute and escort the same thing
MEN would mathmatically have better success betting that dating app money at Casino, than finding a match on a dating app. Go have fun guys, and stop chasing women. You'll be happier and more successful.
Happy new year
2:45 Getting more people on the app isn't as valuable as they think it is. It's the value of people who are actually serious about looking. Women are using Tinder just to feel validated if for some reason Instagram likes wasn't enough for them.
My friend tried subscription for dating apps recently and it is awful.
1. Full of scammers (he was getting calls that he talked to a minor and needs to pay $2000 for FBI to leave him alone)
2. Uninteresting people (most are using app for fun and not seriously)
There are numerous scientific studies from a variety of areas such as psychology, Data and computer science, sociology etc that show that dating apps are not a good way to interact. Unless you are a statistical select few ie about 10% then the math and human psychology of dating apps does not work and your efforts will be better spent finding someone in person.
I am marrying my best friend, and I met her on Tinder. I didn't pay for any upgrades or subscriptions. This is anecdotal evidence that you can find someone, on a dating app, for free. It's up to you at the end of the day.
And who you find
These apps only work for better looking people or the losers need to flip through a million people that’s just life
8:00 imagine if a store was selling 30% defective items or rotten food. Imagine car dealership selling 30% of cars that will crash and kill their passengers and drivers
Will growing out your mustache get you more dates?
No, but you'll have a nice mustache. And thats pretty cool.
i love the whale comparison! Great vid!!!!
The Corpo-Christian Match buying all the other companies really made the whole industry trash, especially for the non hetero-normative.
They know they are doing damage, but profit over people is their moto.
Very cool and informative video 😊
Good advice and good video.
Every video you make slaps. Instant click.
Don't get scammed kids!
Never pay for these apps...
"Pissing match of egos, fuck their vanity
Ain’t got the time, I don’t want anything from you..."-Slayer
They meant it in a different context, but that's how I see society and especially dating apps,today.
I feel this video (and rightly so for tone) skipped over the fact that many use these apps for hook up culture. In that way apps are really just middle men in the "oldest profession around" to be frank. Its why Grindr is one of the few dating apps that is actually is profitable to some extent.
Grindr is profitable because there are a lot of gay men looking for hookups in places or situations where they cannot do so IRL (or choose not to). If it's a more religious or socially-conservative place, or even places with serious anti-LGBT laws, then Grindr is basically the only game in town. You just don't really have that kind of monopoly in hetero-based contexts. (Even in countries where unmarried men & women aren't supposed to date or interact, those people come up with workarounds - although dating apps do better there as well.)
Alemio’s focus on scalability and practical AI applications is what caught my attention. This isn’t just hype-it’s substance.
Interested
I don’t usually jump into presales, but Alemio’s approach to combining AI with DeFi sold me. Feels like the next big thing!
I feel like you overlooked a major thing that also happens on the apps; prostitution. And not just the women that scam you for free meals, etc.. but actual prostitution
Dating has been horrible long before dating apps. Neither party is usually happy with what they end up with.
It is funny listening to younger people talk about watching Sex and the City for the first time realizing that dating wasn't that great in the 90s either.
If you're not a tall, handsome man with a good income, then it wouldn't be worth it even if you got to use the apps full services for free.
We have skill based matchmaking in Tinder before GTA VI 😭
Absolutely not
What the video didn’t touch on is that as with most of these things, there’s also what’s happening to your data. The industry’s privacy policy as a whole is pretty bleak.
Big shoutout for mentioning XAI73L and SUI. These two look like the future to me. Holding both tight!
Scam
Solid advice all round!
Honestly, I was on the fence about this presale, but the more I read about Alemio, the more convinced I became. The AI integration is brilliant!
Get a cute dog and take it for walks at parks or downtown and women will come to you.
I definitely don't like the idea of having to pay to even message someone in general. I got lucky with mine not too long ago.
If you get any match and date, that date will be good enough and bad enough so that you return to use app.
Dating apps are OUT dated
I love this topic. I have been working on something similar at Mind Over Money. Would love to connect with like minded individuals.
As a society and culture we need to stop romanticizing romantic relationships. Not everyone needs and should to find a mate. This only feeds into the insecurity of people . match making should be done by altruistic organisations that facilitate IRL communities of common interests, sporting clubs , chess clubs , fishing clubs, cooking clubs whatever the club may be.
Everyone needs someone. Ppl are depressed as hell out here when all they have is internet
No, I don't even have to watch this, the answer is no. Sheesh people. Go to church or join a club or get your parents to introduce you to somebody...
I tried a few dating apps, it’s a waste of money and time. I am meeting people in person from now on.
I would never pay for an app 😂
Its filled with idiots who only swipe based on looks and have no other criteria.
I would be willing to pay if;
1.The cost is the same for all people on the app
2. The app forces you to write actual substance not just some pictures and a one sentece "just ask" or " message me" bio.
3. Includes real metrics such as income, debt, credit score, lifestyle and forces you to prove it.
4. Allows real ways to eliminate useless clutter of people who clearly arent serious
5. You can remove people who arent in the same league
Alemio’s tokenomics are what impressed me the most. The balance between development and community incentives is spot on.
Economic of love episode! I love it, cuz it’s free.
Relationship is financially liable!
Unless you want to be alone forever.