A video essay about rollercoasters that starts off by explaining the cultural context of Susan Sontag and then makes a Mean Girls reference?? That is goddamn INCREDIBLE. Top work.
This is a great video, I enjoyed the hell out of it, and subscribed. But I want to say, I have seen a great definition of camp that cuts through sontag's excessive wordcount. I think it was Rantasmo who defined it, but he said camp was "A celebrarion of artifice." The artificial, the gaudy, the fake - camp is the celebration of plastic fantastic, the vulgar and the unnatural.
I literally adore your channel so much. I like being on the receiving end of infodumping instead of being the one that is constantly infodumping on my friends about theme parks.
I think at its core Saw the ride is funny because the rider has made the choice to ride it. It’s the only Saw trap that you voluntarily, enthusiastically want to participate in.
Yep notes: on the lift to the drop they could face you backwards so you don’t know when you’re going to fall. And 2: in the dark before the other drop make a voice say “you’re gonna drop, you’re gonna drop, you’re gonna drop” to freak you out and you don’t know when you’ll fall
I mean, I’ve commonly heard Saw described as one of the greatest comedy series of all time because basically every movie from 2 onwards has this incredibly camp energy to it.
You’ve nailed every aspect of the campiness!!! I tried to explain how saw the ride was camp a couple of years to go with a friend and he didn’t get it. Now I can send him this
Watching a few of your videos now has solidified to me that I’d be that one person at a party who’d hear you/someone talk about theme parks from afar and be like “theme parks?!” and just join in and be enthralled and/or add onto it lmao. Keep up the great work and thanks for talking about this ride, as someone who’s also timid about watching any of the Saw franchise 😅
You are so right about vertical lift-hills. I rode one that was 106 feet tall and I was clinging on for dear LIFE. It was so bad that I left temporary marks on the foam padding from how hard i was holding on
As someone who also hasn't I feel this was probably true... but wanted to avoid making any big claims about the movies if I wasn't going to sit down and watch them!
As someone who's seen all of them, they are the goriest camp fests you'll ever see. Watching Hoffman in the later films go from "angry cop guy" to full blown Hoffinator is peak fiction
So the last few times I've been to Thorpe Park I've gone midweek and only walked through the queue... so I have no memory of this! Is it in the indoor bit?
@@MikeFromTheParty It's just before you walk up the first few set of stairs. It's has a long pause between runs. I went to Thorpe about two weekends ago. They have turned a lot of things back on. Stealth has smoke, Detonator now runs a game at the top and the drop is held differently per ride and some of the zombies have changed in Walking Dead.
I would argue that Wicker man at Alton towers is also Camp. Like the no eating or drinking sign that’s on your way into the rides station says something like “No eating or drinking, your modern food displeases the Wicker man!” Basically the theme of the ride is that riders have been invited by a cult called the Beornen to a ceremony. There’s also show at the end of the queue where a Scottish sounding voiceover goes “Welcome chosen few, we are the Beornen. For generations our family has lived in these woods, lead by the spirit of the Wicker man. Our elders taught us of a day where he will rise to give us freedom and eternal wellbeing. But to start the ritual we need a gift and that gift, is you. He is here. What an honour to see yourself burn in Wicker, encased in his soul! The time has come for the Wicker man to rise, together we shall feed the flames. Let the ceremony commence.”
this channel has very quickly become my favorite channel on the whole of youtube. from the amount of info, to the interesting topics, to the pov, its just amazing. keep doing what you’re doing.
I remember watching ride throughs of this in high school desperate to ride it, great video! Also thank you for recognizing Billy for being the camp icon he is
Would you ever make a video about Halloween horror nights? I would call that camp as well. I go every year and i’m amazed by the details of costumes, makeup on scare actors, and house design that I forget I’m getting scared.
So I've never had a chance to go to Halloween horror nights myself but I do love watching videos of some of the mazes for all the reasons you say. There's one maze in particular I have a lot of thoughts about due to being a huge fan of what it's adapting... but I don't know if I'll ever get round to doing a video on it! I'm so slow at making these, so trying to prioritise the ones I'm very passionate about first.
This video is making me want to visit England for the sole purpose of riding this masterpiece. How dare you (affectionately). This speaks to my soul and this is now my dream ride thank you very much
possibly the best title to a youtube video i've seen in a while??? your infodumps are always entertaining and loved you using your friends in the video haha
I love that you used Expedition: Everest as an example of a better use of timing to unsettle the rider, since there's that interview with a/the guy behind "13" describing that same bit as boring, explaining that _his_ rollercoaster will be way scarier because you don't have to sit and wait on a drop track. Also the Jenny Nicholson line was great.
this is my new favorite youtube channel. your topics are always so varied and the framing for each of the the rides and experiences is so interesting! thank you so much for the wonderful videos
Yaaaas, Billy! Glad to see you’ve gone camp like the rest of us queens, this would slay after some Chardonnay. Billy was always a theater kid, he always made his traps so fab and theatrical.
I like how the wikipedia entry only made sense to me because of the years I spent playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 as a kid. Love you videos, 10/10 would listen to you ramble about theme parks at a party.
On my trip to Thorpe Park, Saw was the first rollercoaster I went on that day and also the first time I ever went on a rollercoaster with inversions! Honestly it was very fun and I went on it twice that day (weirdly enough i found it to be a rougher ride later in the day which is normally the opposite). Great video btw!
I think the key thing that a lot of people forget is horror IS camp, it’s entertainment, it’s not meant to be serious. And the art of scare attractions is again the entertainment factor not that it’s meant to genuinely frighten you, although it does for some. So I agree, Saw the Ride is camp but so is the film and so are all horror films.
Honestly, I feel like it's a little bit of a missed opportunity to not have a body in the bathroom (maybe even a poorly photoshopped body from the ride???) in reference to the first movie.
I absolutely love your style of video. The "guy monologing at a party that you just can't get rid of" is such a particular mood that I can't help it is itself camp. Yes to some it might seem to mock people who do it, but you do it in such a loving way that I can't help but enjoy it. The fact that I myself love listening to people passionately talking about their latest interests has nothing to do with that. Your line-up of subjects is also very interesting. Very much off the standard path with peculiar angles. Loved your recent Droomvlucht analysis. It brought a very new perspective on the ride that I haven't thought of yet. Your Flight of Passage video also made me quite excited to one day witness that ride myself. Now I'd love to talk with you a bit more, but I promised my friends a few beers so if you excuse me, I'm grab a couple from the kitchen...
An authentic SAW ride would require the guests to gnaw off their own arms to get out of the safety harnesses. It's hard to see how the disconnect between horror, which requires a person to feel trapped and threatened, could translate to a roller coaster, which has to be inspected regularly and is generally operated by bored teenagers, without the result being *camp.* Maybe they should lean into it and have Tommy Wiseau design a Room ride. So, are all these videos at the same party? I need to know the LORE.
A Room ride would be iconic! I see each of these as separate parties (different outfits/ lighting) although you are very free to picture these all at the same party for comedic value
My only wish for Saw is to smooth out the ride a bit as my partner and I often coin it as "Sore: The Ride" as it can jerk you around a lot! Keep everything else though as you say it's delightfully camp and I wish the walking dead ride at Thorpe succeeded in the same way
It's interesting because I also adore The Walking Dead Ride and I'm surprised I'm in a minority on this! I think part of my love comes from the first time I went on it was a really quiet day and me and a friend were the only ones in the entire building. Walking down the long corridor after the pre-show by ourselves having no idea what was going on was such a fun memory.
Of all the things I thought I'd watch today, a genuinely well crafted Video Essay about one of my favorite Thorpe Park rides that nails down why I kinda love it so much, was not on my list
RIP deren browns ghost train, also to be honest thorpe wasn't alone in the act of 'horror' theme rides as alton towers decided to join in on the act with Thirteen, Smiler and Wickerman. They havn't had a new major coaster since though
the first three Saw movies have a special place in my heart. I'd love to have a ride like this at my local park! tbf, they just brought back the Zambezi Zinger, so at least there's that!
POV: I am am introvert who unexpectedly was invited to a party and am looking for anything to distract me from the amount of loud people in the room. I do not drink alcohol so I keep drinking a ton of sodas. Inevitably, I have to pee a ton throughout the party. This guy shows up while I'm in line and starts talking to me about Saw The Ride. I am finally relieved to not be alone so I listen intently with fascination.
I really love your style with these videos, clearly very well researched and informative whilst also being well presented. Looking forward to seeing whatever you choose to cover next.
A timeline watching your videos: Intro: "I don't agree but I'm interested..." - Middle "okkkk I see your point" - End "Dammit Mike you've convinced me again!!"
the only terrifying experience i had on this ride was when a very tiny kid (he was defo too short for this ride) was let on a seated Infront of me, me and my boyfriend had to shut our eyes because we were so scared he would fall out. now that was scary... so maybe saw is the worlds scariest ride as long as there is a small human sat Infront of you 😅
3:37 Bro, we got new characters added to the Party Universe? Awesome! (P.s. i love their dedication to actually look like they're at a party as well. You must have some very creative and talented friends)
So the reason they look like they're at a party is because... they are! I cornered them one by one at a party and very grateful they all agreed. But they are very creative and talented - and two of them are also here on UA-cam! You can find their channels in the description ☺️
@@MikeFromTheParty Thank you!!! As an update; we thoroughly enjoyed the video and can't wait for more in the future. It reminded me of the Saw keychain I was given by a friend who rode it about a week after it opened, I was too much of a roller-coaster coward to ride it myself. That opening dark ride segment would probably have me laughing though!
@@MikeFromTheParty fiancee here- thank you Mike, it means so much you replied! Since we’re long distance it was fun hearing about my partner’s experiences and learning about a park I’ve never been to!
tbh i thought i missed a video from ordinary things & just doing a bit for the intro but then i got confused to why the bit was still going on and checked the channel name. really good vid btw!
I was trying to think what ride might do suspense well, and I think splash mountain might do this the best. Like, you go past the big drop multiple times and there's that whole long lift hill section before it. The whole ride you think about the drop, or maybe I just feel that way because I think log rides are spooky
I think that's a great choice. I think rides that have one big 'drop' which you're aware is coming often do this best. I think Tower of Terror is also great at this, as well as Oblivion at Alton Towers here in England
I don't know why, but the prompt st the beginning is cracking me. The guy you've been dodging😂 In all honesty, I would love to run into someone like you at a party. I never find people in the wild who are as into theme parka as I am.
Horror based theme park attractions should be campy, it makes the horror more accessible to those who are likely to avoid it and honestly a fully serious horror attraction would probably not be very fun. I think the designers were fully aware of what this ride would be, it's unlikely that they were even attempting to be seriously scary because it would alienate a large portion of potential riders if it was genuinely fear inducing outside of the fear portrayed in the rollercoaster medium itself. The most successful horror attractions are campy. Halloween Horror Nights is a hit because it's ultimately very silly while committing to a high standard of quality and maintaining a playful theme park atmosphere with its actors. Horror fans love camp, we expect it, even when ads seem like they're trying to convey some sense that the experience will be seriously terrifying because it wouldn't be fun to theme an attraction around concepts that are more genuinely terrifying than over the top killers getting away with ridiculous crimes.
I get your point but I'd argue basically every other horror attraction I've experienced has had some level of fright, even if it's just a few jump scares. So at HHN, even if there's a certain playfulness to it, there's a sense of exhilaration from having completed a maze that comes from that level of fear it creates. Saw: The Ride not being even slightly scary (beyond the coaster) is what makes it such pure camp fun in a way that set's it apart imo
I rode this on opening day! Someone puked right on the dead body. Good times. Ridden it lots since then and its still a campy masterpiece to this day (even if they got rid of the air-shotgun blasts in the queue line)
I'm trying to think of rides that have scared me over the years... Anything moving towards the riders, regardless of how far away it is, is unsettling. Like, Dinosaur in WDW. The carnator head thrusts out at the end towards the ride vehicle and I absolutely hate that shit @.@
As someone who thinks Dinosaur is terrifying I absolutely agree! I feel like that's a great example of a jump-scare ride, but I also love rides that subtly unnerve and unsettle (the stretching room in the Haunted Mansion is a masterclass on this)
I am so hyped to watch this, Saw makes me more excited than scared personally but after doing it 30 times it's definitely obviously lost its intimidation factor Edit: that was great. Saw's my second favourite ride in the park and you've explained it all very well. The ending was good too
Gosh I love your videos. I'd happily be infodumped on theme parks and camp, two of my obsessions, at a party, although given my state at parties I probably wouldn't remember it afterwards. So better to make it a UA-cam video. I do appreciate that you seem to have a better understanding on camp (or at least what *I* think is actual camp) than most, although I don't even agree with a lot of what Sontag says...
Damn you for asking me to justify and explain my comment! I'd have to re-read the Sontag piece, but I did think her definition of camp was maybe too broad--too "Well it is all camp except when it's not camp, because not everything can be camp." Of course not surprising for her time, she also downplays the gay connection with camp while obviously alluding to it. But maybe that just speaks to the elusiveness of the term. I, myself, wouldn't call Swan Lake (at least a good production of it) camp--but that's because I studied ballet obsessively for 20 years, so take it pretty seriously. But that doesn't mean someone else wouldn't? I do appreciate that she differentiated between knowing camp and inadvertent camp, and, like her (I think?) I find the latter far more satisfying (for bad examples of the former just look at much of Ryan Murphy's TV output.) I *do* agree with you that this ride seems... well, camp. You can tell they earnestly tried. And yet, for all their big talk, was someone at Merlin telling them not to make it too scary? Jugsaw's first appearance seems hysterical. And that dead body with the water hole in its back! I mean, if they really wanted a hard R dark ride part to the coaster, where are the animatronic people trapped in horrific contraptions, or the screams of pain, or something (full disclosure, while I have a deep love for a lot of horror, like you I've never seen Saw because that kind of horror is just too agonizing for me--so maybe I'm wrong and the movies have lots of scenes of Jugsaw mumbling on his tricycle and bodies with water spouting out of their back?) @@MikeFromTheParty
This is really interesting, thanks for sharing! It's definitely a hard concept to define, and I think there's quite an appealing malleability to to the term
I'm a late to the party cos of traffic!!! Yes it is the campest thing alive/dead! I have been waiting for this take and you did not disappoint. I love Thorpe Park when it owns it's camp and recognizes it early Channel 4 the theme park. Camp, trying to tragically hip, over ambitious but without the funds to see it's ideas through and most of the staff are wonderfully over it, yet hyper-competent at their jobs. It's my favourite place in the world.
One correction: Thorpe Park opened in 1979, not 1975 as I state in the video!
A video essay about rollercoasters that starts off by explaining the cultural context of Susan Sontag and then makes a Mean Girls reference?? That is goddamn INCREDIBLE. Top work.
It really is the perfect mix of extravagance, forced sincerity, and absurdity. The ride instructions from Jigsaw really seal the deal.
Ok but 21 Savage’s definition of camp has left me fuckin dead hahahaha “idk, woods?” 10/10 best response
The answer itself was camp
I'm also obsessed with the use of the party guests! I really like that lil addition
I'm glad you liked it! I showed up to a house party and harassed my friends one by one into making a cameo. Thankfully it turned out great 🤠
This is a great video, I enjoyed the hell out of it, and subscribed.
But I want to say, I have seen a great definition of camp that cuts through sontag's excessive wordcount.
I think it was Rantasmo who defined it, but he said camp was "A celebrarion of artifice."
The artificial, the gaudy, the fake - camp is the celebration of plastic fantastic, the vulgar and the unnatural.
I absolutely lost it at the guy defining camp as "I dont know, woods?" 😂
I literally adore your channel so much. I like being on the receiving end of infodumping instead of being the one that is constantly infodumping on my friends about theme parks.
And now you have more info to infodump onto your friends!
I brought my own red plastic cup, a bag of Doritos for the table, and a single grapefruit la croix, let's party!
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this channel is just too good, from the POV concept of the video to how informative and just overall fun the whole video is
I think at its core Saw the ride is funny because the rider has made the choice to ride it. It’s the only Saw trap that you voluntarily, enthusiastically want to participate in.
Yep notes: on the lift to the drop they could face you backwards so you don’t know when you’re going to fall. And 2: in the dark before the other drop make a voice say “you’re gonna drop, you’re gonna drop, you’re gonna drop” to freak you out and you don’t know when you’ll fall
Mike's Mic and Mike from the party posting on the same day. A truly Mike-blessed day indeed.
A blessed Mike² day
I mean, I’ve commonly heard Saw described as one of the greatest comedy series of all time because basically every movie from 2 onwards has this incredibly camp energy to it.
You’ve nailed every aspect of the campiness!!! I tried to explain how saw the ride was camp a couple of years to go with a friend and he didn’t get it. Now I can send him this
That's so funny you were trying to make the exact point, hope this can work as a persuasive tool!
Watching a few of your videos now has solidified to me that I’d be that one person at a party who’d hear you/someone talk about theme parks from afar and be like “theme parks?!” and just join in and be enthralled and/or add onto it lmao. Keep up the great work and thanks for talking about this ride, as someone who’s also timid about watching any of the Saw franchise 😅
Sounds like you'd be a great person to meet at a party 🍻
Ooh, do you read horror movie synopsises, though? I'll never watch more than the trailer, but will eagerly read the synopsis.
@@gr33ngirlsea This is me with most horror movies that come out lmao, but I'm trying to be braver with the ones that especially pique my interest
You are so right about vertical lift-hills. I rode one that was 106 feet tall and I was clinging on for dear LIFE. It was so bad that I left temporary marks on the foam padding from how hard i was holding on
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
The most important detail: It was called "Project Dylan" because they named it after someone's cat.
That's incredible and definitely adds to the camp of it all.
As someone who has never watched the Saw movies, I can confidently say that they became more camp as time went on.
As someone who also hasn't I feel this was probably true... but wanted to avoid making any big claims about the movies if I wasn't going to sit down and watch them!
As someone who's seen all of them, they are the goriest camp fests you'll ever see. Watching Hoffman in the later films go from "angry cop guy" to full blown Hoffinator is peak fiction
Sounds like the dark ride portion had a bit if cheeky fun.
Absolutely!
the definition of camp is that shotgun blast that makes me scream EVERY time in the ride queue... too good
It's the best when you miss it and gets the people in front
So the last few times I've been to Thorpe Park I've gone midweek and only walked through the queue... so I have no memory of this! Is it in the indoor bit?
@@MikeFromTheParty It's just before you walk up the first few set of stairs. It's has a long pause between runs. I went to Thorpe about two weekends ago. They have turned a lot of things back on. Stealth has smoke, Detonator now runs a game at the top and the drop is held differently per ride and some of the zombies have changed in Walking Dead.
Oooh love the fact stealth has smoke. Hopefully by the time I get there this season they still have the show standards this good!
I would argue that Wicker man at Alton towers is also Camp. Like the no eating or drinking sign that’s on your way into the rides station says something like “No eating or drinking, your modern food displeases the Wicker man!” Basically the theme of the ride is that riders have been invited by a cult called the Beornen to a ceremony. There’s also show at the end of the queue where a Scottish sounding voiceover goes “Welcome chosen few, we are the Beornen. For generations our family has lived in these woods, lead by the spirit of the Wicker man. Our elders taught us of a day where he will rise to give us freedom and eternal wellbeing. But to start the ritual we need a gift and that gift, is you. He is here. What an honour to see yourself burn in Wicker, encased in his soul! The time has come for the Wicker man to rise, together we shall feed the flames. Let the ceremony commence.”
this channel has very quickly become my favorite channel on the whole of youtube. from the amount of info, to the interesting topics, to the pov, its just amazing. keep doing what you’re doing.
Wow! That means a lot, thank you
This has now become one of my favourite videos and favourite channels! Thank you for blessing us with the idea that is Camp Saw: The Ride
So glad you liked it this much!!
There are other people at the party now??? Mike's moving up in the world.
I harassed my friends at a party into agreeing to be in this 🤠 I think it was worth it, it turned out well!
I remember watching ride throughs of this in high school desperate to ride it, great video! Also thank you for recognizing Billy for being the camp icon he is
This is so funny to me, I love the idea of this being a bucket list ride
Would you ever make a video about Halloween horror nights? I would call that camp as well. I go every year and i’m amazed by the details of costumes, makeup on scare actors, and house design that I forget I’m getting scared.
So I've never had a chance to go to Halloween horror nights myself but I do love watching videos of some of the mazes for all the reasons you say.
There's one maze in particular I have a lot of thoughts about due to being a huge fan of what it's adapting... but I don't know if I'll ever get round to doing a video on it! I'm so slow at making these, so trying to prioritise the ones I'm very passionate about first.
Coming back to this after 9 months and seeing it still has fewer than 8k views is crazy I think about this video every day
Maybe one day the algorithm will bless it 🙏
@@MikeFromThePartyit has!!
This video is making me want to visit England for the sole purpose of riding this masterpiece. How dare you (affectionately). This speaks to my soul and this is now my dream ride thank you very much
this is one of my fave channels. i love the “party” setup. always a pleasure to see another video
Thank you, glad it was worth the wait!
possibly the best title to a youtube video i've seen in a while??? your infodumps are always entertaining and loved you using your friends in the video haha
Thank you Emily!! I'll tell my friends they're a hit 🎯
I’d rather have a trivia murder party ride any day. It’s just like saw but with actual humor
I love that you used Expedition: Everest as an example of a better use of timing to unsettle the rider, since there's that interview with a/the guy behind "13" describing that same bit as boring, explaining that _his_ rollercoaster will be way scarier because you don't have to sit and wait on a drop track.
Also the Jenny Nicholson line was great.
I just checked out this interview and whilst I love and respect Mr. John Wardley I firmly disagree on his Expedition Everest analysis aha
this is my new favorite youtube channel. your topics are always so varied and the framing for each of the the rides and experiences is so interesting! thank you so much for the wonderful videos
Thank you for watching 🥳
This is the guy I would look for at a party now that I know what to look for
Kinda obsessed with the Jaw ride being camp, shes looking it right in the eye!!
Yaaaas, Billy! Glad to see you’ve gone camp like the rest of us queens, this would slay after some Chardonnay. Billy was always a theater kid, he always made his traps so fab and theatrical.
I like how the wikipedia entry only made sense to me because of the years I spent playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 as a kid. Love you videos, 10/10 would listen to you ramble about theme parks at a party.
Aha Rollercoaster Tycoon is an educational resource!
I am hoping so badly you make a video on the ghost train ride demon apocalypse one, that sounds insane and would be a fantastic video.
Definitely in the works, but properly quite a while off as I want to do it justice! It's an incredibly bizarre ride
You would definitely be the best person to talk to at a party. Love you content, keep up the great work ♡
Thank you 🤠
On my trip to Thorpe Park, Saw was the first rollercoaster I went on that day and also the first time I ever went on a rollercoaster with inversions! Honestly it was very fun and I went on it twice that day (weirdly enough i found it to be a rougher ride later in the day which is normally the opposite). Great video btw!
I think the key thing that a lot of people forget is horror IS camp, it’s entertainment, it’s not meant to be serious. And the art of scare attractions is again the entertainment factor not that it’s meant to genuinely frighten you, although it does for some. So I agree, Saw the Ride is camp but so is the film and so are all horror films.
Honestly, I feel like it's a little bit of a missed opportunity to not have a body in the bathroom (maybe even a poorly photoshopped body from the ride???) in reference to the first movie.
This is such a good idea! Honestly, I know so little about the Saw movies I didn't even make the connection
susan sontag just GETS IT!!!! also your channel is high camp, true art
The biggest compliment I could receive, thank you 🙏
This is great haha your videos keep getting better! Keep it up I love this style of tale telling
Thank you!!
I absolutely love your style of video. The "guy monologing at a party that you just can't get rid of" is such a particular mood that I can't help it is itself camp. Yes to some it might seem to mock people who do it, but you do it in such a loving way that I can't help but enjoy it. The fact that I myself love listening to people passionately talking about their latest interests has nothing to do with that.
Your line-up of subjects is also very interesting. Very much off the standard path with peculiar angles. Loved your recent Droomvlucht analysis. It brought a very new perspective on the ride that I haven't thought of yet. Your Flight of Passage video also made me quite excited to one day witness that ride myself.
Now I'd love to talk with you a bit more, but I promised my friends a few beers so if you excuse me, I'm grab a couple from the kitchen...
I'm really glad you're enjoying the channel! Thanks for sharing this and welcome to the party 🥳
imagine you are talking to someone, and when they get to the next part of what they are saying, they say "part 2" out loud.
An authentic SAW ride would require the guests to gnaw off their own arms to get out of the safety harnesses. It's hard to see how the disconnect between horror, which requires a person to feel trapped and threatened, could translate to a roller coaster, which has to be inspected regularly and is generally operated by bored teenagers, without the result being *camp.* Maybe they should lean into it and have Tommy Wiseau design a Room ride.
So, are all these videos at the same party? I need to know the LORE.
A Room ride would be iconic! I see each of these as separate parties (different outfits/ lighting) although you are very free to picture these all at the same party for comedic value
My only wish for Saw is to smooth out the ride a bit as my partner and I often coin it as "Sore: The Ride" as it can jerk you around a lot! Keep everything else though as you say it's delightfully camp and I wish the walking dead ride at Thorpe succeeded in the same way
It's interesting because I also adore The Walking Dead Ride and I'm surprised I'm in a minority on this!
I think part of my love comes from the first time I went on it was a really quiet day and me and a friend were the only ones in the entire building. Walking down the long corridor after the pre-show by ourselves having no idea what was going on was such a fun memory.
As soon as you said the ride safety information was presented by jigsaw, you sold me. Thats all it needs to be camp to me.
Of all the things I thought I'd watch today, a genuinely well crafted Video Essay about one of my favorite Thorpe Park rides that nails down why I kinda love it so much, was not on my list
RIP deren browns ghost train, also to be honest thorpe wasn't alone in the act of 'horror' theme rides as alton towers decided to join in on the act with Thirteen, Smiler and Wickerman. They havn't had a new major coaster since though
the first three Saw movies have a special place in my heart. I'd love to have a ride like this at my local park! tbf, they just brought back the Zambezi Zinger, so at least there's that!
I take it for granted this being at my local park, it's a fun ride to have!
Fascinating video, thank you! The party aesthetic is in full effect here and I am living for it.
You are carrying the theme park video essay scene rn.
POV: I am am introvert who unexpectedly was invited to a party and am looking for anything to distract me from the amount of loud people in the room. I do not drink alcohol so I keep drinking a ton of sodas. Inevitably, I have to pee a ton throughout the party. This guy shows up while I'm in line and starts talking to me about Saw The Ride. I am finally relieved to not be alone so I listen intently with fascination.
I love this!
I really love your style with these videos, clearly very well researched and informative whilst also being well presented. Looking forward to seeing whatever you choose to cover next.
Thank you Alex, really appreciate it!!
A timeline watching your videos:
Intro: "I don't agree but I'm interested..." - Middle "okkkk I see your point" - End "Dammit Mike you've convinced me again!!"
Hahahahahahahaha I love this
the only terrifying experience i had on this ride was when a very tiny kid (he was defo too short for this ride) was let on a seated Infront of me, me and my boyfriend had to shut our eyes because we were so scared he would fall out. now that was scary... so maybe saw is the worlds scariest ride as long as there is a small human sat Infront of you 😅
Being honest, this ride scared the shit out of me when I was 11. I had nightmares for 2 weeks and didn't ride it again for 4 years.
3:37 Bro, we got new characters added to the Party Universe? Awesome!
(P.s. i love their dedication to actually look like they're at a party as well. You must have some very creative and talented friends)
So the reason they look like they're at a party is because... they are! I cornered them one by one at a party and very grateful they all agreed.
But they are very creative and talented - and two of them are also here on UA-cam! You can find their channels in the description ☺️
i LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! Also THANK you for using captions!! Makes things much easier for me as a hard of hearing fan!!
No worries, I'm glad they make things easier!
YES!!! Can't wait to watch this with my fiancee tonight! We got engaged the same week we started watching your videos lol
Congrats on your engagement 🥳
@@MikeFromTheParty Thank you!!! As an update; we thoroughly enjoyed the video and can't wait for more in the future. It reminded me of the Saw keychain I was given by a friend who rode it about a week after it opened, I was too much of a roller-coaster coward to ride it myself. That opening dark ride segment would probably have me laughing though!
Glad you both enjoyed it 🤠
@@MikeFromTheParty fiancee here- thank you Mike, it means so much you replied! Since we’re long distance it was fun hearing about my partner’s experiences and learning about a park I’ve never been to!
@@Cielinabox 💕
tbh i thought i missed a video from ordinary things & just doing a bit for the intro but then i got confused to why the bit was still going on and checked the channel name. really good vid btw!
The end of this video is a missed chance for a perfect bathroom trap reference from saw 😂
going to the met gala dressed as the blood spraying corpse from saw the ride
Now this would be looking camp right in the eye 👁️
I was trying to think what ride might do suspense well, and I think splash mountain might do this the best. Like, you go past the big drop multiple times and there's that whole long lift hill section before it. The whole ride you think about the drop, or maybe I just feel that way because I think log rides are spooky
I think that's a great choice. I think rides that have one big 'drop' which you're aware is coming often do this best. I think Tower of Terror is also great at this, as well as Oblivion at Alton Towers here in England
This video, honestly the entire channel, is Camp.
What an honour 🙏
Can’t wait to admire saw the ride in all its campness when I visit Thorpe Park this summer
Can't think of a better summer day 😎
As someone who loves the Saw franchise I believe it is camp itself so the foster being camp is very fitting
Starts my mental hopes and dreams-based countdown for your Ghost Train video, especially the gift shop and its silliness ⌚
Ghost Train is my white whale... will be coming at some point!!
This was SUCH a good essay! I love your approach to discussing these types of things
Thank you!!
Sorry mate, snuck out the bathroom window. That's why you were waiting so long
I don't know why, but the prompt st the beginning is cracking me. The guy you've been dodging😂
In all honesty, I would love to run into someone like you at a party. I never find people in the wild who are as into theme parka as I am.
I feel you on this!
Tongue in cheek... Borderline corn ball but self aware enough to wink at the audience 😉 a guilty pleasure....
If there's one thing this coaster proves, it's that we need more horror movie based theme park rides.
Horror based theme park attractions should be campy, it makes the horror more accessible to those who are likely to avoid it and honestly a fully serious horror attraction would probably not be very fun. I think the designers were fully aware of what this ride would be, it's unlikely that they were even attempting to be seriously scary because it would alienate a large portion of potential riders if it was genuinely fear inducing outside of the fear portrayed in the rollercoaster medium itself.
The most successful horror attractions are campy. Halloween Horror Nights is a hit because it's ultimately very silly while committing to a high standard of quality and maintaining a playful theme park atmosphere with its actors. Horror fans love camp, we expect it, even when ads seem like they're trying to convey some sense that the experience will be seriously terrifying because it wouldn't be fun to theme an attraction around concepts that are more genuinely terrifying than over the top killers getting away with ridiculous crimes.
I get your point but I'd argue basically every other horror attraction I've experienced has had some level of fright, even if it's just a few jump scares. So at HHN, even if there's a certain playfulness to it, there's a sense of exhilaration from having completed a maze that comes from that level of fear it creates. Saw: The Ride not being even slightly scary (beyond the coaster) is what makes it such pure camp fun in a way that set's it apart imo
I rode this on opening day! Someone puked right on the dead body. Good times. Ridden it lots since then and its still a campy masterpiece to this day (even if they got rid of the air-shotgun blasts in the queue line)
Three videos and I gotta follow you. I LOVE your concepts. Bless.
You can't just say "Angry Birds Land", that jumpscared me
Hahahahaaha sorry
saw itself is insanely camp pls watch it, especially the og and 4,5,and 6. poorly acted, melodramatic, and weirdly cunty i loveee saw
i would hardly describe it as scary (occasionally gross tho) up until the most recent film. first film actually has no on screen gore
it gladdens me so much to know that there is someone on this site who can talk about roller coasters and reference Susan Sontag in the same breath!
I remember thinking when writing this "is this combo too niche??", so I'm very glad you're in the middle of that venn diagram!!
@@MikeFromTheParty glad to fit the niche! Great video!
I got a chance to ride it last May and I didn’t expect to get some of the body water in the face.
videos that make me have to physically restrain myself from applying for a PhD
You could... or you could create video essays...
I'm trying to think of rides that have scared me over the years...
Anything moving towards the riders, regardless of how far away it is, is unsettling.
Like, Dinosaur in WDW. The carnator head thrusts out at the end towards the ride vehicle
and I absolutely hate that shit @.@
As someone who thinks Dinosaur is terrifying I absolutely agree! I feel like that's a great example of a jump-scare ride, but I also love rides that subtly unnerve and unsettle (the stretching room in the Haunted Mansion is a masterclass on this)
"I've never watched Saw but here's how I imagine it goes and why the ride is different from my imagined idea" Huh?
I am so hyped to watch this, Saw makes me more excited than scared personally but after doing it 30 times it's definitely obviously lost its intimidation factor
Edit: that was great. Saw's my second favourite ride in the park and you've explained it all very well. The ending was good too
Glad you enjoyed it Rob! What's your number 1 in the park?
@@MikeFromTheParty Stealth in the front row for sure
It's swarm for me!
YES new Mike video!
I would 100% watch someone talk about the Ghost Train for hours cause I'm so curious on what others think of it.
Hours might (?) be an exaggeration, but I have a LOT of thoughts so that will be coming eventually...
I'd love to hear more about thorpe park in the future, your format is differnet and interesting.
Thank you! Definitely want to make another video on Thorpe Park at some point soon
Another killer video my guy! Keep it coming!
No pun intended! (and thank you)
Apparently I can do a great impression of the puppet from those movies.
This is SO good, binging your channel now
Basically how I felt when I found your channel tbh
@@MikeFromTheParty legend hahaha, if you ever wanna work together on anything lmk!
I'm down!
Wait wait go back I wanna hear about the demon apocalypse! Talk about it for hours please!
Aiming for early next year 👀
i cannot believe we didn't do this ride last year!!
also incredible intel - the puppet's name is Billy??
This is the problem with me not watching the films and instead getting all my information from online. I did not know this was a piece of intel hahaha
3:10 This is my favorite bit ever
I love it too!!
Gosh I love your videos. I'd happily be infodumped on theme parks and camp, two of my obsessions, at a party, although given my state at parties I probably wouldn't remember it afterwards. So better to make it a UA-cam video.
I do appreciate that you seem to have a better understanding on camp (or at least what *I* think is actual camp) than most, although I don't even agree with a lot of what Sontag says...
I'd be interested to know what aspects you disagreed with! To keep the video focused I just stuck to just using Sontag
Damn you for asking me to justify and explain my comment!
I'd have to re-read the Sontag piece, but I did think her definition of camp was maybe too broad--too "Well it is all camp except when it's not camp, because not everything can be camp." Of course not surprising for her time, she also downplays the gay connection with camp while obviously alluding to it. But maybe that just speaks to the elusiveness of the term. I, myself, wouldn't call Swan Lake (at least a good production of it) camp--but that's because I studied ballet obsessively for 20 years, so take it pretty seriously. But that doesn't mean someone else wouldn't?
I do appreciate that she differentiated between knowing camp and inadvertent camp, and, like her (I think?) I find the latter far more satisfying (for bad examples of the former just look at much of Ryan Murphy's TV output.)
I *do* agree with you that this ride seems... well, camp. You can tell they earnestly tried. And yet, for all their big talk, was someone at Merlin telling them not to make it too scary? Jugsaw's first appearance seems hysterical. And that dead body with the water hole in its back! I mean, if they really wanted a hard R dark ride part to the coaster, where are the animatronic people trapped in horrific contraptions, or the screams of pain, or something (full disclosure, while I have a deep love for a lot of horror, like you I've never seen Saw because that kind of horror is just too agonizing for me--so maybe I'm wrong and the movies have lots of scenes of Jugsaw mumbling on his tricycle and bodies with water spouting out of their back?) @@MikeFromTheParty
This is really interesting, thanks for sharing! It's definitely a hard concept to define, and I think there's quite an appealing malleability to to the term
I agree that it's one of the appealing things about camp in general. :)@@MikeFromTheParty
Im the guy in the back of the party begging people to hear me out on Alton Tower's
I'm a late to the party cos of traffic!!! Yes it is the campest thing alive/dead!
I have been waiting for this take and you did not disappoint.
I love Thorpe Park when it owns it's camp and recognizes it early Channel 4 the theme park. Camp, trying to tragically hip, over ambitious but without the funds to see it's ideas through and most of the staff are wonderfully over it, yet hyper-competent at their jobs. It's my favourite place in the world.
Channel 4 the theme park is the perfect description 💀 Especially with the Inbetweeners link as well
My friend went on the world's scariest rollercoaster. I didn't, I just Saw The Ride!
Where have I heard that one before...
@@MikeFromTheParty You forgot to include it in your video so I stole it instead :D
this is so unhinged and i love it
you're right and you should say it