2020 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel First Drive | Best 1/2 Ton Diesel?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Looking for the best 1/2 ton tow rig in America? Look no farther than the RAM 1500 with the third generation 3.0L EcoDiesel engine. With a towing capacity of 12,560 pounds, RAM has rated their diesel higher than the 1/2 ton diesel options from Ford or Chevy. Combine that with quite simply the best pickup interior in America and you have a winner in my book. Sweetening the deal, the diesel is available in all trims including the base Tradesman trim giving more folks access to RAM's best tow-engine.
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64,000 miles on my 2020=no problems=34 MPG CRUISE at 60=31 MPG CRUISE at 70-3rd one I've owned
The Longhorn Edition interior kicks ass!
I love how detailed and professional your reviews are!
This is the best, most informative review of this truck’s towing and payload capabilities...and everything else about the truck. Great job!
Damn I loved all the secondary information about towing and off-roading and how the different engine strengths behave. This was a fantastic all around type of review. Thank you!
Agreed.
I bet ram tail gate won't hit the hitch like GMC WILL.
Yeah, I have a few buddies who are very sorry they got that option. The GM tailgate is practically useless.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, ALEX is The Man! Remember before you put a negative comment Alex and his Crew do this for a living. He knows what he’s talking about!
The only thing that I don't like about his videos, is every video of his is too dam long. Thirty minutes+? He can do two videos of the same vehicle, one about details and the other about its driving dynamics (powertrain, etc).
10:39 MPG. Averaging about 35MPG out on the highway! Very nice! I'm guessing that was based on what the trip computer was saying. Can't wait to see the real-world distance/consumption tests!
Russ Ramos another reviewer was getting better than what the computer was saying. ua-cam.com/video/hCkN8uNWeiM/v-deo.html
The accurate explanation of the car is very cool 👍🏻✌🏻
I adore this car
Thanks for stating how payload and towing works. So many people don't know these things
I love my ram boxes. I couldn't own a truck without them.
Alex, you produce and deliver the most detailed car reviews. The comparison to other vehicles in the category is so helpful.
That's some incredible range.. 1000 miles!
WOW really impressed how technical and in depth this review is
Looks like Ram is a step ahead of the competition. Again.
Not as handy as the multi pro? i think it's the best idea since sliced bread.
Hemi rocks in every way!!!
I love mine. 100.000.clicks 0 issues..
Bullet proof..
Columbus Christopher hey Chris you may have noticed or maybe not review wasn’t about a hemi
I like gm's straight six architecture better, but gm screws up everything it touches.
Like a rubber "wet belt" that drives the oil pump instead of a chain, and has a service life of 150,000 miles. Because oil and heat are great for rubber belts. Genius, GM.
Inline is superior over and v configuration when it comes to diesels. They just produce more torque per hp and better fuel economy.
The inline design is superior to the V6 design, my only issue with GM is that they made their engine block of aluminum and their cylinders are aluminum as well and to top it off they are using timing belts ... The Dodge engine is v6 configuration but is an iron/graphite block and timing chains.
@@eduardelric wrong has a timing chain belt if for variable oil pump
@guy proulx OMG, the first time ever were instead of being nothing but a Troll, you actually contributed by constructed a fair and unbiased assessment.
Currently Diesel prices are higher at the pump compared to regular gas so be sure you really need this engine before you buy or you will be paying dearly for it for many years to come.
Modern DIY Projects not sure where u live but it’s actually cheaper by about .20$ where I live... don’t know why ur talking for everyone ya dipshit
Modern DIY Projects This is a nitch engine ideal for people who regularly tow half ton appropriate loads, and put on big miles to really benefit from the 30 mpg and diesel longevity. It’s a 10 percent market appropriate choice to supplement & round out the Hemi & Pentastar in the 1500 line up. Choice is good.
Here in Florida, diesel is always about thirty cents more a gallon, than regular. All depends on where you live.
This engine is desperately needed in the Promaster 3500.
dodge has upped their game
Josh Jerome yes it is lol
@@noremak1325 Actually, it isn't. RAM is now it's own brand, completely separate from Dodge, and owned by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
Great video and great detail. Ram is the way to go
I have a 2016 Ecodiesel... probably one of the best "vehicles" i've owned by far. new 2020 Ecodiesel is definitely a top contender for a replacement vehicle!
@guy proulx Man you never give up. It's truly sad how much of your life you have pissed away with your anti-FCA campaign.
I had a 14 ecodiesel with 120,000 miles when I traded it for the Limited Ram 1500. It was an awesome truck with zero problems. I think I'm going to get another one.
Good review. When talking about how quiet the truck is though, you gotta stop talking for a few seconds so we can hear how much sound is coming from the vehicle.
When is GM/Chevy going to get a clue about interior styling on their trucks.
Demargj2
They won’t. Cheap made parts, just like Ford F-150. Cheap made parts = overpriced trucks.
@@overthinkerblue4637 but Ford cuts those interior cost to make up for superb mechanical and electrical components
@@SongsforSpace Fanboy spotted
@@xX1234512345xX no it's true. My God it's bad. Go compare ram to f150
Dang Guy ! Now this is a review ! Extremely well crafted and packed with tons of info . I am a Chevy Guy ... but I was curious . Thanks for the video . Looks like one heck of a nice truck .
It is good for the Dodge Ram to have the eco diesel because they have always been slow but it would be nice if they also had a fast engine like the 6.2 Chevy or the Ford platinum engine
My hemi would smoke a shitty ass ford and it’s not far off from a gmc 6.2 just look it up on UA-cam. The hemi would also eat a 5.3. I’ve raced one and the 5.3 is slow compared to a hemi.
TRX
All three half-ton diesels should be rated to tow trailers to a max of 8K pounds or so. I feel they're doing a disservice to any consumer who thinks they will feel comfortable getting onto a freeway towing 12K.
You’re spot on.
If RAM put's this engine in Pro-master 3500 with AWD the best Van on market.
nope.
They need to let Ram design the vans and not Fiat. Ram has a history of great van designs like the Sprinter. The Fiat van looks terrible, but is great when it comes to utility.
Great review. Very informative and professional!
I don’t want the most torque. I want enough torque in the most reliable engine. I wonder if chasing the latest greatest numbers causes reliability and longevity to suffer?
not really...by products of the tech advancement , as long as they don't try to make the running parts to lite..
@Jags that doesn't make any sense.. its a diesel review , in that context , Toyota doesn't make a diesel for the US market an the Tundra is old thirsty an doesn't tow well
@@reserva120
Tundra toes just fine. Followed one towing a 26' Airstream up Hwy 50 to Lake Tahoe which is a steep climb from 1500' to 7500'.
It did excellent.
@@rxonmymind8362 - Tundra guzzles gas and is too outdated. Toyota needs to update it soon!
@@yogiyoda
What V8 truck doesn't? Compare Tundra V8 to Ram, Ford and GMC mpg.
Coming soon to an LA fitness center near you
Beach5and you get a discount for being a RAM BRO!!!
whats wrong with that? half the cars that are there dont belong either and mostly bicep bros in their old ass BMWs
Beach5and
Your comment makes no sense just like your channel's name.
after gen. 2, I don't know if I could trust gen. 3. the 5.7 hemi is an established and proven engine. I probably would not wish to be the guinea pig for the first year of production on the newest ecodiesel.
Never buy first year of anything. If this is a good engine we will know in late 2020.
Looks sweet. I really like my 2014 Durango.
I'll be ordering one as soon as they open the order books.
Nice truck, now if they could just make it as reliable as the Trundea they'd be on to something
That will never happen with any FCA vehicle.
@coffeeinthemorning Since Honda does not make a full-size pickup, the Tundra is the obvious alternative.
@coffeeinthemorning Then why did you mention Honda and Toyota?
@coffeeinthemorning outdated yes but stays out of the shop. I've driven them all. Besides Tundra the ford worked well too.
@@rightlanehog3151 you mean American built Vehicle.
A whole bunch of "who gives a hoot." Low profile tires and loads of crap that will break before the loan is paid off. Not that this is a problem for just the Sheep truck--they are all over the top price-wise and over contented. Steering headlights? Really? Make a truck that costs $30K and lasts ten years and they will have something. Peak stupid has been reached and when the bottom drops out of the truck market, it will be ugly.
I am surprised ONE manufacturer (any, even the Asian/Europe ones) hasn't caught on an developed a low-frills, sturdy, solid mpg, SHORTER (for ease of accessing the truck bed) and affordable (sub 35,000 with options, sub 30,000 base) pickup. The costs of current pickups are rivaling German sports cars with all their costly options.
So just get a work truck. Tradesmen addition. Comes with the basics.
@@spence5627 The most basic trucks start at $30k. The average loan is 72 months these days and climbing. See what I'm saying? There are no 'tradesmen' trucks anymore with a straight six and a five speed manual.
It's a shame Ram's reliability is so bad. They do make very nice trucks. 35k to start though, geeze
My 17 has been rock solid after 40k with 10k being towing miles.
@@Weak_juan Get your drive shaft checked yet?... There is a recall on it... They can break because they were not welded properly... Driveshafts breaking on the highway... not an ideal thing...
Which reliability items are "so bad" on 5th Gen Rams?
@@edweagle no recall for mine. It was for a batch of 10,160 units on the 2018. Ram sold 600,000 units in 2018. 1.7% were affected.
@guy proulx yet, they keep growing and growing. But I guess you wait on Consumer Reports to tell you which car to buy...😑
Best towing review ever! Best truck review ever!
Great truck, great review! Thanks!
Great review! Only thing i would add is every 1 minute repeating the fact that this is FIAT engine to make potential buyers cautious
I will be waiting with bated breath for you to get this EcoDiesel to completely test it. I hope you get it soon.
Until you can tell me why my 2015 blew, up you can keep it!!!!!!!
Hey, 3:50 don't put the numbers up for the current version when you are talking about the older version, it's confusing.
I don’t usually comment but wanted to say, really well done. I watch a lot of other folks shows and none of them did as well on this truck as you just did. Thank you for all the secondary info and comparisons to other manufacturers. You had a way of giving a tremendous amount of relative data without being boring or bogged down. Great job.
I agree, what a nice thing to say!
after the mess with the last ecodiesel .. how can you ever trust them again .. I won't.
Why do they brag that they found a way to have all new parts? That means you’ll never be able to find parts to fix it
they should had offered the engine brake that would help alot while towing when u go to come to a stop
Ford PowerStroke 3.0 does.
I do like that interior with the exception of the center stack. It just seems overdone with way too many buttons! Nice rig overall though.
why doesn't the rebel have surround cameras ? Does a Rebel park better than the other model Ram trucks !!?? NO !!! Re-trackable side steps and vented front seats not available either !!!!! WHY !!!!! No dam reason other than plain stupidity !! If Ram is watching or reading this put these options on this truck NOW !!!!! I will buy a GMC if not !!!
Yes, true. All the truck makers are dragging their feet on safety features like surround cameras. They moved slowly on backup cams for God's sake.
Nice way to not mention the buyers remorse ecodiesel buyers are having
whiteandnerdytuba diesel mfgs have been saying the same crap every year for the last 10 years of new emissions “we got it figured out now, just buy a new one and you’ll be good”. “Also no, we won’t recall and fix your old one”. Thanks for being a loyal customer
I love my 2019 they are great deals now 2019 classic model
POS Italian made Diesel. No reliability, you have been warned.
Big mistake that you can’t get the diesel on the XL in the F-150
Same for the diesel in the Silverado 1500 WT...
All the time when I need buying a car your reviews make the difference in my decision. Thank you very much for your great job.
Did the fix the ecodiesel reliability issues? Lots of engine failures in the gen 2.
yogiyoda my guess is the DURAMAX straight 6 always out of the box reliable . Ford comes out with crumbs as does Ram. Would love a Toyota 6 Diesel
@@BrogeKilrain - Chevy forces you to upgrade too much to get the diesel. People don't like the timing belt either.
@@yogiyoda The chimes, alarms and seatbelt buzzers drive me crazy and deafening on GM. I laugh when I hear them from across the parking lot and my hearing is not too well. :) I found way to disconnect most in my ZR2 but that goddam key in still works. Last Chevy just cause this constant aggravation. Ford, Ram, Toyota easily turned off with afew sequenced button clicks
WRONG Yogi. There weren't "lots", it was a rare situation where people who were towing in the hundreds of thousands of miles range were having the pressed cam spin. It wasn't "lots" however. In fact if you look it up online you find about 6 different instances where it happened. Was it a mistake to press on a cam gear and not have a key? Yes. Has it created a litany of engine failures? No.
@@rooh5825 I own a ecodiesel that has 19000 miles with zero problems. In my mind people dont know how to treat a diesel and start to and drive it like a gasser. The failures were all bottom end bearings that I heard of. I can only imagine a cold cast iron block being redlined with thick oil in the middle of winter.
Been waiting to upgrade my 2016 EcoDiesel!
its an amazing truck I saw it and compared it side by side with other trucks in an Auto show! I feel that I need all of this truck for trailering my 2 stalls horse trailer of 7200lbs!
Are they getting rid of D.E.F in 2020? I've heard it's going away as it actually polluts more.
Parrish Criddle
Not as long as California has a say in it. Because of them we got this crap ( DEF )
This engine is too new and Dependability and reliability are at question-looking at it’s past track record. All of the new diesels are going to have their issues Due to the stringent emission laws I would not buy this truck to be the test guinea pig in my opinion Or any of the new diesels
Hey Alex, do these 3rd generation diesels come with a block heater like some used to? How do you deal with those really rough winters with these when it comes to morning start up?
You just answer all my questions about the truck thank you
When is this engine coming to the Jeep Grand Cherokee?
in 2020
It will be a toss-up between this and the Toyota Tundra coming out in 2021.
30+ mpg is impressive in a truck.
Thanks for the review Alex.
Until the epa nerfbats this one like they did the last one
Also an error with your payload math. The ratings account for a 150lb driver, so adding 2 200lb people would take 250lbs off, not 400lbs
RAM, Chevy and ford do not account for a driver in their numbers. The statement from FCA for instance reads:
“The payload of a vehicle is defined as the allowable load weight a truck can carry, including the weight of the driver, all passengers, options and cargo".
@James Mastroianni I think there is something wrong with your math.
Not sure that you understand how Diesel engines work, you get less engine braking in a diesel because it doesn't have any intake restrictions. Unlike a gasoline engine. Also, that new 3 L diesel has a slightly lower compression ratio than the second generation.
What are these “intake restrictions” that exist on a gasoline engine that aren’t on a four stroke Diesel engine? FYI Diesel engines still have a higher compression ratio than gasoline engines and therefore should afford more engine braking - all things being equal, like cylinder volumetric capacity.
John Canalese it's called a throttle. Unless it is wide open, you have quite an intake restriction on a gasoline engine. As for compression ratio, yes, any idiot knows diesel engines have a higher one. However, that doesn't help you an engine braking. Because, although it takes more energy to compress the air in a diesel engine, unless you have a firing stroke, you get all that energy right back when the piston goes back down. This is what happens off throttle. The reason a gasoline engine gives you engine braking, is, because the throttle is closed almost completely that's strangling the air coming into the engine. There is such a thing called compression braking, however it is only on large commercial vehicles, not on consumer diesel engines. I suggest you go back and try to learn a little bit more than extreme basics.
Kevin Barry Simply asked for clarification on your statements and I get arrogance and insults! You’re one mean old angry prick aren’t you.
FCA messed up when they let Nissan get that smaller Cummins. The old Ecodiesel was not very reliable and had many issues with it resulting in a short life span.
The point of the Ecodiesel is the mpg. The 5.0L V8 in the Titan XD gets like 15 MPG. It's a V8 so it's not as reliable as the inline 6.
Half a tonne is pretty poor for such a large vehicle. But I paused when the image of the dash came up, looks awesome.
Luckily here diesel is around 17% cheaper than petrol and most of pickup trucks and large SUV are all diesel for that reason. Also I hate hate hate the Rebel red interior, matte black everything please.
GM Diesel - Much quicker off the line, way less turbo lag. Better design by having an I6 but a big flaw with having a timing belt that needs to be changed at 150,000 miles. Also better MPG but smaller tank so less range. Also has an exhaust brake. But lower tow ratings by a few thousand pounds.
Ram Diesel - Better torque. Has a lifetime timing chain so less major maintenance. Worse MPG and MAJOR turbo lag. Also, the last gen diesel had major reliability issues that may or may not have been corrected in this new gen diesel. No exhaust brake but higher tow ratings.
Why can't there ever be a clear cut choice? So many trade-offs it makes it hard to choose which one to go with.
...except it does not have the towing power of a Ford PowerStroke 3.0.
STAY AWAY FROM ECODIESEL. 95000 KMS. ENGINE HAS LOTS OF PROBLEMS. WATER PUMP $1800 SERVICE, AFTER THE EMISSION FLASH COMPUTER GAS MILEAGE SAME AS THE HEMI, THE EGR VALVE $1500 TO REPLACE. DOWN PIPE CAT , FLANGE WITH BROKEN BOLTS. THE LIST GOWS ON. NOTHING LIKE THE OLD CUMMINS WITH MECHANICAL FUEL PUMP. HEMI 5.7L PROBLEMS WITH EXAUST MANIFOLD LEAKING AFTER WARRANTY. STUDS BROKEN OFF.
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Inferior parts that is the problem parts are made are not equipped for a diesel
I’m confused... “The Ram 1500 eco diesel is not available in a 4 door version. Then shows that non existent vehicle. What?
Great job with the review as always, one question that I have not been able to find is rams max towing is 12,5xx, chevys is 9300. But the chevys was 9300 on 4wd trucks right? So what's the max tow on a ram 4wd???
Rams web site says 12.5k, unchanged for the 4 wheel drive.
Remember this truck is for light towing and MPG. Not heavy loads that a V8 would be used for. Do wish it had a engine break and the the old shifter. Can’t stand the knob shifter. Got to have 4x4. Good review.
So have they got rid of the cam gear slippage problems or will this engine still self destruct under heavy loads? If it is a VM motori engine then it is garbage.
I like how Americans think this is like crazy new technologies and incredible ideas when European pick up trucks and vans have always used small turbo Diesel engines 😂
Great mpg
Nice truck. Unfortunately has a 1 out of 10 smog rating. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=41434
i talked to a guy who has the eco diesel RAM he said he had alot of issues with it. covered under warranty - but honestly, why wouldnt you buy the V8 or Cummings
It’s not Cummings lol it’s cummins
So I have had two first gen and 2nd gen . The reason for issues is lack of maintenance. They need more lubrication in the diesel that they sell now a days. If you run some every tank you can go tons of miles. First one had 470 000 on it. This one has 170 000 on it. So far it is good will keep you posted
I have a 2015 Ecodiesel. Currently 170,000 miles. The engine parts mentioned here are NOT the ones I've had problems with. What have they done with the EGR cooler, Oil cooler, camshaft sprockets (previously held in place with friction discs. They are NOT captured on the camshaft) and water pump "hose" mess that's going on under the intake to make them more reliable?
The body of this truck and interior are beautiful.
I'm begging anyone looking at a new diesel PLEASE do not own one of these outside the factory warranty.
As nice as Ram trucks are, it is still a Fiat at heart. Beware of long term reliability issues.
I towed a 6500 lbs - 30ft RV with a 2016 Ecodiesel Limited with air suspension fro approx 10,000 miles. Excellent overall, very good torque and fuel economy. The small payload was the reason for selling but eyeing the new one now. Using an older F-150 with the 5.0 gas. Horrible fuel economy, high revs all the time
u know this shit was bad when on the website. Ram did away with the ecodiesel engine lately. LMAO Gayest thing I ever saw.
CA-17 has improved over the years. When I first drove it in 1973. It was called the "Death road." Today foolish people act like it is a go-cart track. Up until recently, my daughter and her family had a home in Felton on CA-9. Being the good granpa, I visited frequently. My 2016 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd 3.92 ratio Ecodiesel does pretty good. But I do go below the car speed limit, and above the Truck speed limit. The car speed limit was recently lowered some.
The VGT turbo on both the Ecodiesel and the Cummins 6.7L is the engine brake. In tow/haul mode, the Ecodiesel can do okay. My wife's 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd 3.42 ratio Cummins is an absolute beast going up or down the hill.
I am tempted to buy the new Ecodiesel for the increased payload. The new trucks 2,000# payload beats my trucks 1,225# payload.
A Rebel with another 2" of lift, 35" tires, and 4.56 ratio. Would work very well with the Ecodiesel.
Since the Powerwagon has "only" a 1800# payload. The Ecodiesel would work well there too!
Excellent video. I have a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel. I had the 3.6 gas. Feeling that gas engine downshift going up highway hills was maddening. The diesel's torque keeps this from happening. I disagree with the economy of the diesel. Using gasbuddy app I can find good diesel prices. Besides saving 40% on fuel, I get a higher resale. With the 25 gallon tank, my range sometimes says over 700 miles. When I pulled 6500 lbs 900 miles, my oil temp went from 203 to 227, going above 60mph. I used the thermometer to adjust my driving. I don't want that extra friction. I look forward to upgrading to the newer version when I can, although I was planning to keep this truck for 300k miles. Our back seat is not the big one, and as the kids grow, we will need that.
Performance issues aside, I like the overall chassis styling but I cannot stomach pickup trucks with all that chrome on the front
Timothy Cook - get the Rebel with the matte black trim
Don’t forget about the fire version we will catch on fire 🔥 and burn that’s the version I got unknowingly of course
I've seen a Jeep Wrangler fire on UA-cam.
Stephen Powdexter That’s right you’re catching on fire 🔥 to inferior parts
DIESEL. It’s about time. If you have never driven a diesel, you do not know what you are missing. Now, let’s put this engine in the SUV’s. Would that be great or what. Diesels are more fun to drive than your gas models. We are in Florida at this time, GAS is hard to find now that a hurricane is coming to town, Diesel is available at all stations, no waiting. A performance chip and a few performance upgrades and my fuel economy is better than most new SUV’s. Not bad for a 7.3L Excursion.
Today, the ecodiesel is known to be one of the worst engines ever made. Even Ram discounted it
I’m not sure if I agree towing 10,000 pounds with that 1500 truck, especially if it’s a big boxy RV. The RV acts like a giant sail & your truck will be pushed around by the RV.
Although I am not currently a truck owner, I have inspected them extensively and what I find: if you select 15 needs/likes in your "build" you are only going to find 10 or 12 features on a truck on the lot. Be prepared to compromise if you want a certain color, technology features, certain wheels, etc.
At what weight trailer do you need a load-leveling hitch?
This is a month plus old. Current events news as of 9/25/19 is that Fiat Chrysler is in Voltswagon type trouble for having cheat software in their diesel emissions test protocol. So folks who buy this EcoDiesel may well face a mandatory recall whereby performance and economy are reduced. Is that right?
The air ride system is useless if you live in a colder climate. Heard of dealers removing the air ride system in my area from so many issues.
No thanks I will stick to my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4
Low-tech but more reliable.
Yup buy a Cummins diesel if you want reliability.
I d prefer they get Cummins to make it instead. If it's anything like the transmissions Ram makes it's shit
I want one!
No need for an exhaust brake. Tow mode takes care of braking using engine braking in lower gears. Does the exact same thing. Works great in my Cummins Titan XD. Also, pay no attention to the listed numbers....it you try towing 12k lbs in any half ton, you’ll be white knuckling all the time.
Good speaker , best sound , should be movie actor or TV host ,,, verrrryyyy easy for my ear. I'm not English speaker, but I listened it til finished
I really wonder how much longer the automotive industry will be able to offer different trim choices as it will be discriminatory that those with more capital would be able to afford a better model and that would not be equal “equity” with those that can’t afford it. Sound crazy? Probably true.