Used Yamaha FJR1300 Newer VS Older
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- So we had a viewer ask recently about a used Yamaha FJR1300 newer vs older, meaning is it really worth it to buy a newer model FJR 1300 motorcycle in order to get the 6 speed transmission etc. In most cases I think that if the money difference is substantial then it is not, but let's talk about it! Sport touring motorcycles are a huge opportunity to get a GREAT used motorcycle for a lot less money, and a used FJR1300 is no different!
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From an owner who has covered 50,000 miles on a gen 2. The upgrades to the Gen 3 make a huge difference. 6th gear/slipper clutch is wonderful on the motorway, my old one used to vibrate like crazy, my 2017 is so much more refined in every way. Cruise Control is a MUST have for touring, as is electronic suspension. Too many details to mention here, but the fact Yamaha made every little piece that little bit better, adds up to a superb sports touring weapon. When you think these bikes are bullet proof and will easily pass 100k miles, yes it IS worth that extra dosh to get those tasteful upgrades that make a difference in the real world. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the perspective! While I do really appreciate the upgrades I am also one of those guys that will tour on a retro bike with no cruise, no wind protection, or anything hahaha...so to me even a gen 1 FJR is an amazing touring machine! Always great to hear from an owner as well!!!
It's hard for people who have an older generation to admit to this.
@@robertenzo5397 I agree!
I used to have a gen 2. It was buttersmooth, no vibrations at all.
My 2015 has cruise and doesn't vibrate at all..Feel I don't need a 6th gear..ES would be nice but it is still very comfortable..Have done 800 mile days and I'm 71yrs...
You got some of the information wrong or just left it out by grouping everything older than 2016 together. The first gen was 01-05. The biggest issue with that was that the air flow directed a lot of hot air onto the rider. 06 fixed that, increases gearing slightly, changed the suspension a bit, and changed the looks a bit. 2013 got a lot more changes including suspension (standard or electronic in the ES model), bodywork, and most importantly a ride by wire throttle system with cruise control and traction control. 2016 just added a sixth gear and LEDs to the 2013 model.
For me it was worth upgrading from an 05 to a 2014 for cruise control and less engine heat on my legs. I don't feel any need to upgrade to the 2016 model though because I agree that the 5 speed is fine.
Helical cut gears and slipper clutch. Until you've tried it you won't understand. Superior.
Having ridden a 2017 with all the goodies I have to say that I now want one.
Those helical cut gears with the slipper clutch and cruise control are a delight not to mention electronic adjustable suspension and rider modes. All FJR1300'S are lots of bike for the money on the market but the gen3 is the best investment and could easily be a forever bike. Many will outlast their owners! I'm thinking about it....
Awesome advice.I have the 2005 FJR 5 Gears never leaves me wanting another one.Awesome bike all round.
I just picked up a 2013 gen3 with 20 000 miles after riding an ex-police 2009 gen2 with about 80 000 miles , and the cruise control is magical!;)) Here in the Netherlands there are loads of average speed camera sections where cruise control made my life a lot better! The ride-by-wire makes the throttle so much lighter.
I've loved the 6th gear on my Super Tenere, but will have to do without it for another 5-7 years till I have to change bike again when I'll be able to get one with 6 speeds.
The 16 to 20 blows 2nd gear. NHTSA issued a recall, it's fully warrantied by Yamaha. You get a new trans essentially.
Thanks Alex! I'm shopping for a used FJR now and you answered the very question I have.
Alex - THANK YOU THANK YOU for this video. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to help me (and others) with this decision! I know I want an Fjr ...and this video simplifies my search! Thanks for addressing the handling situation as well.
All the best😀
No worries George, always here to help!
Thanks for your insights guts. This is most helpful in making decisions…keep up the posts!!
There are 3 generations of FJR1300.
Gen 3 added 6th gear in 2016 (only 500 rpm drop and Hwy speeds) but also added inverted forks, slipper clutch and fly-by-wire throttles allowing cruise control. These are far more important than 6th gear. Also better venting for cooling summer riding.
The 2015 has cruise control..First year of it..Don't feel I need a 6th gear but it would be nice for the long haul...I do notice some heat in summer but nice in winter..LOL
You'll never find a 2015 close to a2016 in price, the gen 1 bikes had a rider heating issue, as the heat off the motor was irritating in the summer, especially in stop & go traffic. This was somewhat eliminated in gen 2 models. If you're not riding a lot at nights, the led lighting on gen 3 models isn't much of a factor, but occasionally riding down dark unlit streets with the leds is absolutely incredible and everyone will notice the difference. Sixth gear is noticeable in lowering the rpms at higher speeds, also less gasoline being consumed. The slipper clutch is great as well, no cramping in hands from stop & go traffic, the only change I did there was the levers, stock are too straight, farther stretch for fingers to pull, change to shorties with a bigger bend toward handlebars, night and day difference. Handling can be affected by so many factors, the gen 3 I don't believe had any improvements over the others. Depending on the upgrades the bike you're looking at had to offer must be considered as well. Example the top box, is it a color matched Yamaha or a givi, that isn't color matched and much cheaper to buy? I've added a carrier to my Yamaha to box, which adds to the carrying capabilities of the box. Anyway for a few thousand more, you're getting the best engineered and advanced product Yamaha had to offer, which at resale would be highly sought after. Spend the extra and enjoy the best there is! You'll be glad you did!
Thanks for all of the thoughtful input Steve!
I just bought a new to me 2012 FJRa . Previous owner had it well maintained, and added electric cruise control, and ohlins suspension among other add ons. Great bike !
Very infirmative brief and to the point keep up the great work anf I totally agree wuth your assessment
I absolutely agree with your arguments. I ride a 2015 FJR with 30,000 km, and ist great. And, here in Germany some Highways have no speedlimit, so I can tell you, the FJR is made driving over 200 km/h! It is amazing!
Have fun with it!
i owned a 2005 fjr (gen 1) and loved it. i sold it when the kids were little and i miss her...i will buy another fjr soon. i have know idea what a slipper clutch it, but most comment that it is great. to me the cruise control is a must. i had a throttle miester and it just didn't perform as electronic cruise control does. i'm looking at 2013 plus under $10k with under 30k miles. that is the sweet spot for me...everyone will have their own sweet spot. i don't ride as much as i would like but when we do ride we take long trips (a week long vacation from KC to Colorado, Smokey Mtns, Galveston, Etc.) so the creature comforts are money well spent in my opinion. i will say the engine heat at low in traffic on the 05 fjr was a bit extreme. i've heard the gen 2 and 3 are better, so i'm in for a newer gen. no doubt, alex is right...any FJF is amazing. i have owned a harley and a honda vtx. there is no comparison for speed, handling and fun...the fjr is so much fun to ride. lastly the gen 2 and 3 come with standard anti-lock brakes. the 05 didn't. luckily i never needed them, but on a bike a split second can be the difference from life and death, so i'm in favor of the ABS braking on the newer gens. great video! thanks alex!
I bought a 2005 FjR 1300 a for $2,500 American it only had 18 thousand miles on it I've been riding it one year so far I've only change tires and oil. I love this bike.
Great review,,love my 2009 satisfied with the 5th gear, less then 20,000 miles paid $5,000
Totally agree! Great and honest review!!
I was always trying to click into 6th gear on my various 5 speed FJRs. FYI.
I owned a 2006 and it was an amazing bike but my next FJR will be a 2016+. I ride a 2009 VMax and wish it had a Cruise as well. Slipper clutch, lights, etc., are worth it as long as the price is not too high.
I have a 2015 and Love It never once have I felt the need for 6th gear.
I have to totally agree, newer v older fjr,
I have owned 5 Yamaha fjr1300
,3 manual
2 yccs,models
And you definitely do not want a 6 speed, i dont see anyone red lining older generation.
So save your money,buy older
And yes i still ride the fjr1300 AE,(yccs)model,fantastic
I have an '08 model. It's incredible. Awesome machine. However, I really want the cruise control and the slipper clutch.
My 03 with 90kms still pulls and rides great.
5th feels fine
I have a gen 1 05 fjr1300 without saddle bags it looks sportier..Love my bike I ride out to the beach in San diego almost every Sunday and it gets attention from other riders and folks at the beach. Of course I made modifications to it but most people think its a newer bike. They can't believe it when I tell them it's a 2005. Its a great bike!
104 k on mine. Same deal here...
Like you I have the 05 FJR, in the faster blue. Used that bike would probably be somewhere around $4K. No way on earth I pay more for a newer FJR. Like you I get compliments all the time, and they cannot believe it's an 18 year old bike. Pulls like a freight train, and looks great.
I have a 2013 and it is a beast in sport mode and a gentleman in touring and I never found my self looking for 6th gear which really would not help it in my opinion. 2 mpg maybe or one more gear you won’t use I’m old and went from a dyna wide glide to the fjr and never looked back. Power check ! Handling check
Abs check
Traction check
Comfort check
Entry fee. 7 grand
And it surprises with low maintenance and non finicky behavior in the wet or dry and I got rained on coming from tail of the dragon never regretted the purchase nor the capability of this steed if you got some skill it will make you look good just wear the right gear
I've got a 2006 model in AE trim, which had the YCC-C electronic clutch. I did add full electronic cruise control, along with a larger touring windshield. It would be difficult for anyone to convince me the latter version are "better." If you're purchasing a 2016 thru early 2021 model, make sure it's had the recall performed for defective gearing.
It's nice to know that all the bells and whistles aren't a necessity. Like when you get a Bluetooth toothbrush.
Exactly hahaha, they're nice to have but you dont need them
Great advice!
Totally agree with your review.
Sounds good , Thanks
I have a 2019 and love it. I went for gen 3 after trying the gen 2 and decided slipper clutch and 6th gear worth it.
However I fitted MV bar risers as lower back pain became intolerable. This made the steering geometry better for handling and easier for slow speed manoeuvres.
Buy the Gen 3 because if you don’t you will always regret it.
Great to hear the opinion of an owner, thanks for adding to the conversation!
Gen 3's are still very expensive compared to the gen 2. I drove both and opted for the gen 2. Then I spent some of the price difference on mods and accessories (both were bone stock, as most FJR's unfortunately are). Got a mint Gen 2 single owner for $4,000. Maintenance records back to 2009.
With part of the price difference, I bought: A Delkovic exhaust, Corbin seat and smuggler trunk (looks amazing, much more comfortable than stock, and the trunk is very functional for when you dont need to ride around with your bags), new tank grips: top and sides, v stream windshield (which is awesome), upgraded breaks and tires (rosso 4's and HH Sintered pads), K&N oil & air filter, FilterMag, full tune up with full synthetic Motul + iridium spark plugs, Shorai lithium battery + charger (much better than having the heavy ass stock battery mounted up that high), I bought a CarbTune Pro and synchronized my throttle bodies, poor man's cruise control, hyperpro suspension front & back, Ivan's ECU flash, I bought this ram mount that screws into the brake fluid reservoir and has 2 balls for attachments for which I bought a cup holder attachment and a wireless charging phone mount, and highway pegs.
At this point I've still spent less than the Gen 3 I was looking at and now it runs better/smoother, gets better fuel economy, is faster, handles MUCH better, is more comfortable, looks better, sounds way better, and overall is way more fun and practical (in the twisties and on very long rides) than the Gen 3.. & for less money!
Of course, you could do the same with the Gen 3 and im sure it'd be better than mine, but it'd also cost you probably $10,000 more and it won't be $10,000 better. Really just boils down to: how tight is your budget? If your bank account won't notice a $20,000 charge then go with the gen 3. For everyone else, gen 2 is definitely the way to go. You will not regret it (unless you're too much of a baby to use your fingers, and MAYBE pick up a wrench, to adjust the suspension yourself & you need a computer to do it for you.. spend 20 bucks on a throttle lock, boom you got cruise control)
Totally agree,ive owned 5 yamaha fjr1300 04,05,07,07,08,absolutely no difference same same.
Huge transmission recall on all 6 speed fjr's.
Yep
I've got an '06 FJR with 43,000 on the clock, been to 8 different states & Canada & never once felt like I needed another gear. It's a great bike & I feel like it's just getting broken in. Only thing I really would like though is the cruise
control. Have Throttle Meister on it.
Me too, not having a 6th gear never bothered me at all.
I have a 2014 FJR that I purchased in 2021 for 9k with just over 12k on it. This is the es model and came with slip on aftermarket exhaust with the block off kit. A pretty good deal in my opinion. Love this bike and it smokes all the baggers that I ride with lol
A bike that is comfortable, fun to ride, and will last about 200~300k miles without any major problem.
Thanks a lot man,
Hey Alex, what do you mean the dives in corner? Is it something that needs to be of concern when purchasing this bike? Would this make a good beginner bike? #thankyoualex
Hey Alex, thank you for the vid. These bikes tend to hold their price quite well, no doubt because of their bulletproof reputation, and here in the UK, I'm looking at getting a 2010 model with 10k to 15k on the clock. Yes, I'd love to get the latest model but, with a budget of £5.5k, my options are limited. However, I've been doing a lot of research on the FJR and I'm confident that I can get a great bike that will last me for years to come.
Your experience with these bikes and honest reporting is ideal for guys like me who are going to be parting with a sizeable lump of cash, and provides us with important insight into the characteristics and abilities of a bike. Very useful.
Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I recently got a bone stock 2009 absolutely mint, single owner with maintenance records back to 2009, black FJR for $4,000. Did you get one yet??
@@Stripping_Bolts Hey Jack, thanks for getting in touch.
I actually bought an FJR this week. She's a 2008 bike, silver, 26,000 on the clock, just had her MOT, and a full service record. I'm rather poorly at the moment, so won't be able to collect her for 2 or 3 weeks, but she's put a big smile on my face whilst I undergo treatment. Really wanted to go to the TT this year but the Fates decided otherwise 🙄😡. Gonna put some aftermarket endcan's on her to give her a deeper, more aggressive sound (yup, still a boy racer at heart) but other than that, she, too, is bog standard.
So what are you planning to do with her? Ride around Europe? A quick blast to the Costa Del wherever? See the UK in all her beauty? (if you can afford the fuel, that is! 🤣)
Oops. Apologies. I thought you were in the UK.
@@taters-no4gj so far I've done all the routine tune up maintenance items myself including a K&N air filter, slapped on a set of rosso 4's because sport touring tires are ass, added a Delkevic slip on (cheap [half the price of big brands] and sounds good, I have 2 videos on my channel where you can hear them), v stream windshield, and highway pegs. I plan to continue touring and ripping around the twisty California canyon roads!
Alex?
What do you think of the YCCS clutchless version like on a 2008 model
Is it a good dependable bike still fun ?
Couldn’t agree with you more on the sixth gear. I would have to be going 100 mph. to need that sixth gear. Where I live in Canada, there are no speed limits higher than 60-65 mph. Even at 100 mph. my 2007 is just starting to work( pretty tall 4th and 5th gears). I do wish I had the cruise control though. The various suspension modes would be cool but not a deal breaker. The 2nd gens are awesome rock solid bikes. Of course if I had the cash I would probably get a newer one. Just because. The older body work is a bit more appealing to the eye imo.
What year did they fix the heat ducting problem?
I live in Australia and I dont need more heat.
THANKS, Alex. I'm shopping around for FJR's right now... and this was very helpful. QUESTION: Will aftermarket exhaust cans create Decel popping? I have my tastes.. intend on upgrading the suspension, LOWERING the bars (w/ a German kit), and even doing a rear fender eliminator. "SPORT"-tart it up a little! I'm an old racer. No Top Cases for me!
AMEN on the "No Top Cases"
Do the older ones have cruise, ES and power windshield?
My question is what do you think or know about the no clutch model,, I think it is the AE model,, it is reliable and responsive..have an opportunity to pick up a 2008fjr1300ae for 4000 with only 23000 miles,,
If your old one vibrated like crazy check throttle body sync...Makes big diff...
I am relatively new rider, I have XJR 1300, it is my first bike, I have it for year and half now and in that period I have put about 20.000 km on xjr, including long trips cross europe. But lets be honest, XJR is not touring bike, and I am looking into FJR 1300 as a possible replacement. What do you think about this transition as I am New Rider? I am 36, 6'3 with 200 pounds. Thank for an answer ✌🏻😃 Subbed 🫡
Hey Alex if you wanted to do a lot of high speeds can the gear ratio be changed on a 2006?
Picked up an 07 for $3.3k. Everything works fine 💪. Most owners tend to hold on to them for 10-15 years, so used models newer than that tend to be more expensive for what you get.
I have a 2012. There is NO convincing argument for a 6 speed transmission. All those saying they wanted a taller top gear, that's an argument for a taller 5'th gear, not for more speeds in the transmission. Magazine writers complained about the lack of a 6 speed and that's why you now have one. It needs a 6 speed like a Harley tractor motor does, not. If an R1 can span 0 to 180 mph with 6 gears, there is no reason an FJR can't span 0 to 150'ish with 5.
Not a bad point
I disagree. It depends on where you ride. I live near mountainous terrain and with 5 gears you tend to shift between 4 and 5 frequently to keep the engine unstressed. With 6 gears you can leave it in 4th or 5th and cruise comfortably in that zone for the duration of the climb.
got a 2005 awesome bike !!!!
What your opinion 2013 FJR 1300?
And the upgraded suspension???
Any difference in the mpg...
You omit one thing: CRUISE CRONTROL; the original is lacking that feature, and it's a burden on long hauls missing that.
I disagree. It depends on where you ride. I live near mountainous
terrain and with 5 gears you tend to shift between 4 and 5 frequently to
keep the engine unstressed while in a long climb. With 6 gears you can leave it in 4th or 5th
and cruise comfortably in that zone for the duration of the climb especially with my woman onboard. What part of the country do you live in?
This exactly the video I was and have been looking for. Now through it, I am missing the older comparison. How does a 2004ish do? Utter trash at this point or actually a cost efficient way to get into serious sports touring? What to be wary of, costly maintenance etc. Thinking of fork leaks, engine/transmission issues and such.
Can be a VERY cost effective way to get into serious sport touring. At this point a bike that old of any kind will need to be gone over mechanically when purchased used anyway, and an FJR is no different. As a fairly heavy machine it definitely can have issues with leaky fork seals after 25-30k miles, so if they have not been replaced they will likely need it. As far as major engine/trans issues I have not encountered any in ANY FJR, if maintained it seems these will literally run forever. An older FJR may not be as fancy, but for the money a well-cared-for older FJR is a fantastic sport touring bike for the money.
2001 was the first gen FJR1300, USA was a little late to the party and you got FJR in USA in 2003.
For my money i will buy the older probably next year i own now a gsxf750 98
Own a 2009 model 31500mls no problems, now i see the new model being recalled for gearbox problems,not gonna pay 16k for the new model
The (2021) RECALL on all Six Speed units... changes this a bit. TOTAL MOTOR TEAR-DOWN req'd
That is what spooked me into shopping for a low mileage 2015.
I bought one last weekend, showroom cond. with 11k miles. Has a two brothers exhaust and the original chrome pipes (like new), also has a Givi to case.
Hi Alex, did they make the new transmission where it can be removed without pulling the engine unlike the older one? hope I got that right? thanks for the review Mark
Since these are a uni-construction style gearbox that is made as a part of the engine (using the same oil etc) I would imagine that pulling the entire powerplant is still needed in order to remove the trans. This has been the case in most Japanese motorcycles I have worked on.
@@AlexSimmons11c Great thanks for the reply Alex. I think someone had mentioned in another video about maybe they would do that when they upgraded when talking about a 2013 model so I do appreciate the information. Be safe. Mark.
Hey Alex, My comment today has nothing to do with the video of the day. While I have been dreaming of getting a RE 650 in a year or two I am thinking perhaps I might consider a different bike. I am thinking maybe a good Kawasaki Z400 or Yamaha MT 03. I want to get a pretty new bike because I am not mechanical. I also want to have the benefit of fuel injection and abs and stuff like that. My only concern is that I might get board real quick with a "beginner bike". I am not looking to go crazy fast , really just looking to do some back road twisties around 50mph. I think I need to get a helmet and do some test drives. What are your thoughts on some of the beginner naked bikes? I know you a Yamaha fan but you always give good info despite any biases you might have. My reason for looking at "beginner" bikes is that they are less expensive than an RE 650 and they are probably cheap to insure. I am not one who needs to go crazy fast , I just want adequate power, don't want to get blown around if I do go on the freeway, and want to get riding. Peace my friend, Eric
Hi Eric, I would definitely get a helmet and do some test riding! I think the MT03 and Z400 are both killer bikes and great choices in a smaller naked bike, and not necessarily just for beginners. The MT03 shares an engine with the R3 but with more upright positioning, and actually is a very peppy bike with killer handling, so a great option for experienced riders as well as beginners. Same with the Z400, I personally prefer the MT03, but that is all preference, they are both GREAT. I will do my best to go do ride and reviews on both bikes soon if I can find both locally!
If not I'll still do a head to head video for you soon!
@@AlexSimmons11c great. don't feel obligated to do it for me. I am sure you get many questions. You have been great responding to my questions. If you think the info would be helpful to others great. If not I encourage you to respond to questions from others. thanks for your input.
I have had my 2015 FJR up to 90 mph and only tach. At 4500 rpms let's face it there's a reason these bikes are used as high speed intercepter bikes by Law Enforcement Agencies.
I had an 86 fj1200 , now I have an FJR1300 ES 17. Don't miss the chain on the old model., all FJ's only need 1st , middle,and top gear. I like all the refinements of my 17 BUT it still needs a better seat and bar risers haha !! I like the versatility of the bike,not quite ready for a gold wing,I'm 52 yrs old , still like to ripe on a YZ250. At the end of the day it bang for the buck. and what your wallets says........i mean the wife says hahahah!!! Any bikes a good bike ..
Hahahaha...the wife part was spot on...
I had an Fj1200 as well. Loved it. Have a 03 FJR, still have iit. It’s a great bike and I like how it’s lighter. Am looking for a newer 18 or newer - will do it if it’s silver. Lol.
HUGE changes in 2006 from gen.1 to gen. 2.
Check out what they all are, some are quite subtle,others massive.
And they have been in production since 2001 too.
You really need to do your homework.
I'll take the sixth gear every time even if the price difference is significant. That's just me.
lacking of 6th gear on huge cruisers and touring bikes is beyond me
Hi Alex, I am the one that like all your rods behind. :) Joke. You probably drove the new FJR (latest) and older generation. I wonder how tall are you? I am 186 cm and I am thinking of FJR (new from the dealershio) as my future bike. Do you think that stock screen sucks for all riders that are my height, or do you know somebody that can confirm that for him is OK? (and he is between 185 and 190 cm tall). Now I have Suzuki SV650 and it is my 6th bike. How quickly can someone adapt to the weight of FJR? Do you find it too heavy? Thanks. I appreciate your work and all your dad`s rods behind there. :) Would you buy a new FJR, I mean the new model that may come out in the future?
Hi Danijel! Ok so at 186cm in my terms that puts you just a little over 6 feet tall, I myself am 5'9" or about 176cm. For me the stock windscreen on an FJR is great, and I use it in the lowest position, so for a 186cm or so rider I think it will be fine, you may just have to ride with it in the "up" position which is easy since it adjusts with a button! I think going from an SV650 you will have to get used to the weight, it does feel heavy to me after riding smaller bikes, but I find the FJR handles the weight very well and you get used to it very quickly (most people).
I have not met an FJR yet that I didn't like, so if a new one comes out I would not hesitate to buy it, BUT I would likely wait a year or two and find a used one to save the money hahaha
@@AlexSimmons11c Thanks. Do you think that Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX 2020 is far from FJR regarding comfort and power? Would you consider it also when buying? Thanks in advance.
Best upgrade?
Cruise control.
5 speed has a higher top end speed than 6.
6th gear is an overdrive. Nice to have lower rpm at speed though.
I have a gen 2 auto clutch now and love it and the analog speedo.
If you can get a 3 for 6k...well worth it IF it has cruise.
2? 5k.
MHO
Thanks for the input! :-)
Would'nt own one without 6th gear
I wonder about a Gold wing vs FJR--good deals on both
Different kinds of bikes to me, the Wing being a full on comfort touring bike that also happens to handle well for what it is, whereas the FJR is for touring if you also want to get really aggressive sometimes. Depends on which fits your comfort level and riding style! I prefer the FJR...but the Wing is a legend in the touring world for good reason.
ABS vs no abs I think that's 2006
Cruise control.
Who would buy this?
"YAMAHA FJR1300A 2009, handbook, service book with 8 stamps, 45450 miles and only 4 owners."
Uh, last I heard there are currently three generations of the FJR1300. The third and latest began in 2013.
Big surprise: Japanese engineers don't get driving/riding in America. That little cultural phenomenon has been around since the Fifties. In the JDM, I'm guessing they sell approximately zero FJR1300s a year. Licensing is restrictive, travel distances are relatively short, and speed limits are comparatively VERY low. Many Japanese struggle with the idea that in the US, it is possible (and nearly legal in the West) to ride all day at 90 mph. So, yeah - six gears, please.
Hahaha yes there are technically 3 generations, but the gap and jump in redesign was so much more so in 2013 that I generally draw the line there and condense it down into 2 generations. The changes otherwise have been smaller quality of life stuff, not so much a complete redesign, and even the first gen was such a phenomenal bike all the way around that if one can be found reasonably priced I still recommend them
First!
Boom!
F**k the sixth gear and the LED lights. The big deal is the cruise control on the newer model.
And another 100lbs … +-
What's a homosexual playing a 12 string in his underwear have to do with it?