Why are Red Bull SO MUCH FASTER in 2023?
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2023
- The Red Bull so far in the 2023 F1 season has been seriously quick, and Lewis Hamilton even said he thinks they're still holding back their true pace. We take a look at why the car is so much quicker than the rest of the field.
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wind tunnel time reductions don't affect RB because Adrian Newey sees the airflow in his head
This has to be the best comment!
Best comment.
Adrian Newey is not afraid of the airflow... they airflow is afraid of....
This
lmfao
I am sorry to say this to all of you sports fans but if Gareth Bale truly doesn't watch the "F1 Sport" after the Abu Dhabi debacle in 2021 how can any true f1 fan do so? Think about it if f1's then Race Director could influence & manipulate an entire season by doing exactly what Redbull " asked " or ordered him to do INFRONT of watching fans, how the hell are we to believe that Max is actually winning fair and square behind the scenes? I mean teams are expected to adhere to a specific budget. Maybe Redbull have again surpassed it, maybe even Max Versappen gets a new engine every race which is illegal . Maybe his car is better than Perez. I mean maybe Perez car has been fuelled more and hence maybe this is why he is slower. They could have even added extra weight to make his car slower, think about it Maxes car is so good he is leading the constructors by himself. I mean F1 has all these restrictions to promote closer teams and races however, if all the rules apply to everyone but Max, you will end up with what we are witnessing today. If f1 did it once in front of everyone, they can do it again, and do so much more when we are not watching.
The Sir already forgot about his overpowered car 2014-2020 especially 2014...
Fr
Sure seems like it lol
Other than 2017 and 2018
It was addressed in the first 30 secs of the video, at least thrice in the entire duration.
@@Dxniell89722 nope. Mercedes were up on Ferrari in 2017. In 2018 they outdeveloped Ferrari's bad upgrades
I think Redbull advantage is they figured out the ground effects very early on. This allowed them to start refining their car in the middle of last year, while everyone else is still working on getting the aero to work right. Auston Martin is the only team that has also got the aero to a well balanced place and just needs to start refining it. Redbull is a year ahead of most teams in terms of car development and it shows in its pace.
yeah, it seems that Adrian Newey's college thesis was about ground effect cars, so he definitely understands it very well
"I think Redbull advantage is they figured out the ground effects very early on"
That was to be expected though. Adrian Newey had hands on experience from the last ground effect era. Really don't understand why everyone was seemingly caught off guard about RB's explosive dominance from last year on. It was pretty obvious they would hit the ground running in '22 and everyone laughed when I said RB was going to be the new Merc once ground effect was confirmed by the FIA to be coming back. Now here we are lol
Adrian Newey built the car that won the 1986 Indy 500, he might be the only person in F1 with experience with ground effects.
RBR are cheating, they have a mini wind tunnel hidden somewhere underground in the Austrian alps that runs 24/7. They are cheaters, always have been.
This is a very funny video, Newey is able to design winning cars. The team is truly magnificent.
I think it is a mix of things. For years Red Bull had to get more from a car with a weaker engine(I see you Cyril) and always got so much from aero/chassis. Mercedes on the other hand had the dominate engine and maybe focused more on power gains. Once the engines were frozen right at a point where Red Bull's engine was at a equal playing field(Adjusts tin foil hat) Red Bull were always going to have a big advantage.
Thank you for your observation.
But Max's car is way more faster than checho's
@@Noname-jp8kb completely wrong
@@Noname-jp8kb🤦♂️
@@Noname-jp8kb lol max is a much better driver than checho also. we saw that consistently last year.
2 reasons
1) Adrian Newey, if anyone can visualize air flow it's him. He wants to design sail boats. Love to see him design an AMERICA'S CUp boat, these boats are hydrofoils and travel faster than the wind!
2) as you said, the design is from last year
He did design a boat
So James won Driver's Championship titles with Mercedes ,Not Lewis .
@@chriswade3923 And it was banned from racing after it won the first race it entered.
Reminder the AMR 23 is designed by Dan Fallows who worked under Adrian Newey for 15 years, including most recently Red Bull.
And was named by Red Bull as Newey's replacement until he was nabbed by Aston Martin...
He should know why the RB is so fast with DRS open.
Makes me wonder if the Honda engine has more power to give when DRS is open. I watched the onboards of Alonso behind Perez and even with DRS the gap stayed the same.
@@Alumnikiid my guess is either they figured out how to utilize the new fuel properly or theyve managed a massive drag reduction, or both. Either way I hope to find out soon because that car is damn impressive, especially when you compare it to how the Ferrari has come since last season's start.
No one needs reminding. We all know.
@@utetopia1620 Not everyone knows, some fans just follow the racing and the drivers and not the engineers. And before you started saying that those aren't real fans, because I know with your kind of negativity will possibly come up with, not every fans know everything about the sports. We can see similar example in the F1 Grid, not every know about the FIA rulebook well and not every drivers read thru the rulebook like vettel does.
Adrian Newey's napkin is the secret. But seriously, probably a mix of an amazing platform to begin with & to further develop not just aerodynamically but mechanically, weight etc., switched focus early last year, great staff, processes and resources, solid engine (finally) etc.
indeed.
BREAKING NEWS: Aston Martin just purchased Adrian Newey's napkin for seven figures.
All the time during Mercedes' dominance Red Bull has been focusing on aero dynamics.
They probably invested and learned a lot and benefit from it now
And of course there is Adrian Newey.
Aero dynamics is Adrian Newey!
Adrian Newey graduated in ground effect, he knows how to build an F1 car with these regulations
So Mercedes engineers were absent in College the days when Professor taught them Aero??
@@ananthu8534 they certainly spent more days in bed rather than lectures because Mercedes need to find 1/1.5 seconds on the Newey rocket.
@@DeanoEV60 fr 😂😂😂 at this point there’s no more “secret hidden pace”… their car sucks
He started his F1 career when ground effects were leaving F1 the first time but he remembered everything. Newey is the best.
No he never u muppet
Hilarious how all of a sudden a team dominating is bad and mysterious, completely ignoring Mercedes long rule over the motorsport 😂
No, no.
It's that their doing so well after cheating and being penalized.
Clearly, the slap wasn't nearly hard enough.
@@greyshepherd3456 Exactly what people hated about Silverstone 2021! Sir "i will not be bullied!" put his car on the inside, missed the apex and took out a rival from behind, and guess what... he took the win celebrating it like he won a championship. Since then i learned disproportionate penalties is a FIA thing that happens all the time. Get used to it.
@AngeIspawn I'd say Max made up for that at Monza when he threw his car onto Hamilton's.
Both considered race incidents.
@@greyshepherd3456 when tf was Silverstone a race incident. Also in imola max didn’t gain a 20-50 point swing
@mchouseboat3405 Were either drivers penalized after either crash?
Racing incidents.
Not only do they have Adrian Newey. Red Bull didn't just look into the future with their car design. Adrian Newey is sophisticated and humble enough to ask himself what can be taken from the past. When you put the Red Bull besides other cars on the grid, it's quite clear there are elements of old and new which RBR have adopted and others have failed to look back and learn from. Ground effects are a tricky matter, and reducing weight in regulations like this is exceptionally important. Look at the RBR, compare it to some of the fastest formula ground effect cars. It may not jump out but Adrian Newey has genuinely constructed a friggin masterpiece. I see so many elements of the fastest cars from the Eras of Formula One revolutionized and modernized in this car. It's gorgeous. Not to mention right now Honda go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. All Max has to do is change engine mode, slap down more power/ERS and he's six tenths ahead in quali. We just need the rest of the pack to figure out whatever phenomena Adrian was already aware of. Well, that and for Merc to get rid of those awful sidepods. (Yes, I know all the complications with that, I just hate the design and I actually like the Silver Arrows, too.)
It's easy to be angry at Red Bull for walking it, but it's just as easy, if not easier, to be angry at the rest of the field for not doing as good a job as Red Bull with these new regulations.
Yh …unless they’re found cheating or something Lmaoo
The dominance is absurd though, lets call RBR genius of aerodynamics but the down-force and straight speed is insane given the engine power are neck and neck between each other. RBR is either cheating in someway or they figure out the secret sauce for aero and down force with the current F1 rules and regulation. I mean Ashton Martin is only scratching the surface with the RBR aero design and they already out pace Merc and Ferrari... I think its the philosophy of RBR, Ferrari and Merc, the fastest teams all gamble on their aero designs and RBR completely won while Merc is losing the most... If Ferrari and Merc were to stick with RBR aero concept they might have close the gap this years but both team were stubborn and prideful with their philosophy, it just didn't pan out.
You wouldn’t be saying this if Mercedes was the team who designed the best car for these new regs😂
@@Goated2002 That why I said its a gamble Merc lost, Merc wanted a completely new concept and look at the terrible result, literally need a new car before the season even began.
@@laughsandwich3842 they slightly overspend the cost cap by 1.8 million pound, where the cost cap was 140 million...... uh ... big deal boy
This simply means that Redbull are really good at simulations since they are spending considerably less wind tunnel time.
The penalties will hit them more this year.. but if they keep such an advantage, it may not mean as much, just stop them from completely running away with it next year.
@@joereality1664 The added penalty is a boon for other teams. Hoping my favorite team gets to fight i stead of running away with the championship yet again
CFD Simulation time is also regulated and they are also restricted on that compared to the others. They're not restricted in Adrian's brain time however, the others are👌
Sometimes I wonder if Adrian Newey just goes home, locks the door, smokes a joint, puts on some classical music and starts drawing the next Red Bull F1 car on the wall naked
2014-2016 Mercs were like 3 times more clear than the rest of the field than RB are now
but the thing is that they didnt have penalties or anything. They got equal stuff
@@omarmohammd5276 merc before cost cap spent a good 100 milion dollars more than the 2nd highest cost team tho
@@roberthochmuth5473 incorrect
@@roberthochmuth5473 Ferrari was the highest spending team at the time
@@Nik55471 no they weren't. Mercedes spent around 20-30 million more than Ferrari and 40-50 million more than Red Bull
They had the best start point, last years car was the class of the field. Talented staff can work better and faster than others, they have very talented staff who car get higher outputs from less inputs than others., which can negate to an extent the reduced tunnel time.
They also have newey and max who would both walk into any team on the grid.
Their direct competitors have not developed as they should.
They can win every race, I fear they might, but I hope they don't.
This was a good video, I enjoyed it. Good host, not overly cheesy, informative but not super serious. How WTF1 should be.
I think the point is that cfd items and windtunnel runs don't really matter if the budget cap prevents the competing teams from building the parts to close the gap to Red Bull.
Red Bull built all their parts within the budget cap.
Red Bull already started miles ahead of the others this season. Their only challenge was the weight of the car. And it looks like they've done it this time around. Just the fact that they have a lighter car this year means they're faster from the get go. I'm pretty sure despite their reduced wind tunnel time, they knew what needed to be tested instead of throwing ideas at a wall like the rest and they've done some meaningful improvements in aero too. If you recall towards the end of last season, Red Bull had already secured this dominant position with RB 18 where the car just massages the tires way better than anyone else in the grid making it possible for them to use the soft tire on a medium tire stint. It's not too hard to believe that they are doing so well this season because again, the package is lighter than last year, has even less drag, and has so much down force when needed so that the tires seem to be having the best time ever. If you listened to Fernando's radio from Jeddah, he kept saying that the tire deg is good (AMR23 being quite a bit like the RB18 concept)
The main part was that Newrey understood the brief and what was needed. They made a absolute stonker of a car (a rocket ship). The other teams were not close and had other issues so they are all chasing there tails trying to understand what the problems are. While red bull are just tweaking and developing their rocket ship. Due to the budget cap it will take a long time for the others to catch up unless they just hire Newrey
Best video posted so far after the new era of WTF1. Keeping working on this direction!
Everybody is talking about the aero design, nobody is talking about the superior Honda beast under.
Hamilton again with the sandbagging: "never seen a car so fast!" meanwhile 2014-15-16-17-18-19-20 merc rocketships lmao
he is trying to gaslight people into thinking his championships were way more competitive than they actually were.
RB's relative pace advantage isn't yet up to the average 2014-16 Mercedes levels that were, on average, from over a second to around 1.5 seconds per lap over the next-fastest teams.
However, I doubt they'll win every race, as reliability issues will most certainly strike them occasionally or some other mishaps.
Lastly, to be precise, the wind tunnel-CFD time allocations change every six months on January 1 & July 1 rather than only the former, meaning the present reverse order from last season's final WCC standings remains effective until June-end.
Therefore, the post-Canadian GP constructor standings determine this year's latter half allocations like last year, with the Canadian GP again being the final race before the mid-year point.
They got a hold of porpoising before every other team last year. This led to them being strong on the straights and braking zones last year. Now, they seem to have amazing Ground Effect downforce and not a whole lot of drag, whereas other teams have really screwed up their design by focusing mostly on the wings. On top of that, the DRS advantage Red bull has is perfectly legal. It opens up the same amount as everyone else. However, it is stalling more of the aerodynamics that creates drag than other cars. Martin Brundle explained this perfectly over the Saudi GP weekend.
Everyone’s forgetting how good that Honda engine is. That’s why Redbull is dominating it’s the superior engine around that aero efficient body.
Newey has already previously worked on ground effect cars, so already has a headstart over some of the other teams, and as the guy in the video said, quite possibly the best car designer of all time 👌
The problem is described by Toto in episode 1 of DtS. "Our car has to run as close to the ground as possible". Add some anti porposing rules to the mix in which the floor has to be raised, and redbull had by far the best concept with a car that had rake in 2022.
Toto was literally begging for the floors raise to be mandated to force everyone else to slow down proportionally to fix the bouncing.
And the FIA did. Floors were raised for this year.
But jokes on them, RedBull was never trying to run as low as possible to seal the floor as they were doing it via air flow.
@@joereality1664 Toto: that was so not right…
Yep, RBR always loved to have their car with a rake since always, while that Ferrari got absolutely crushed by that regulation change.
Yeah Adrian is a genius with the ground effect cars. Jt Honda have. Hilt a truly amazing powerunit. Especially the hybrid part. That rb19 recovers battery so quickly
Let us remember that these regulations first were scheduled to start in 2021 and was delayed a year because of some flu epidemic. So work on this concept started well over 3 years ago. RB/Newey clearly were on the right track with their concept from the get go, where others only started looking into the RB concept probably a year ago at testing. The understanding RB has gained over their concept is not something the other teams can simply conjure up. They copy the design or elements of it and the understanding only starts there. The reduction in testing will allow the others to catch up a little, but 3 years of research on a concept isn't going to evaporate.
As an American, this is what I love about F1. The cars can be so different from each other. It makes it exciting vs when all the cars are the same like in mascar
Nascar is about the driver, F1 is about the car.
@@plasticbudgie as an engineer myself, I like it
This has answered all my questions! I was honestly confused about how come RB started reigning all of a sudden. At least if Mercedes weren't the favorites, I was expecting Ferrari to fill those boots. I never for once imagine RB running the show!
There are many answers that make an F1 car move fast. But if you listen to that Honda turbine spinning down the straights. That would be the number 1 answer. It's music!
"When we were fast, we werent that fast" -lulu
Actually correct! the W11 was way faster. (its with the F2004 on pole for fastest EVER F1 Cars in History)
And when we talking about dominance -> 2016, 2015, 2014
Remember that Red Bull's roots are in Sim Racing. Maybe they've got a virtual wind tunnel and a digital twin car to work on, then all they need to do is confirm in the wind tunnel.
Another commenter said that Red Bull solved their aero early, and built the car around that. I agree. Solving the right problem early on has knock on effects.
Also, the reduced wind tunnel time may have put them in a position where they needed to take a big risk, and that risk paid off. They tried something the other teams weren't willing to try and I think that is the edge.
Simple facts:
1. Their team worked harder than others or had better ideas than others and implemented them to near perfection.
2. If a team is dominant in the very first of the new regulation season, they're bound to be competitive the next season too and can improve further since they have a headstart on others trying to catch up.
As far as I can see, The Merc was far more dominant than Redbull in the turbo hybrid era... That too Mercedes dominated in that era when there is no costcap or windtunnel, CFD restrictions.
Merc was faster because they threw as much money as they can on it and stuck a super talented driver like SLH in it .. and they dominated.
The Rocketship Engine of Mercedes in Brazil 2021 is lot more powerful than RB19 in 2023...
And interestingly, as soon as new regulations hit and costcap was imposed they lost all of their performance.
Whereas Redbull developed over the years during the Mercedes dominant era and successfully chased Mercedes to an even fight in 2021 even with the costcap (with additional 200,000 ofc.. which in itself is pennies compared to the amount of resources Mercedes put in it's car during 2015-2020 and amount of dominance Mercedes had). That itself changed my mind of hating Redbull to actually appreciating their tenacity as a team (ofc I still don't have much impression for the management).
And in 2022, after the regulation changes, Redbull have developed their car concept based on the expertise of Adrian newey in groundeffect era, and he mainly contributed to the suspension of the car in 2022... In Which he did a brilliant job, as RB18 was the only car which was performing at high level irrespective of the right height restrictions and super efficient downforce generation.
And not to forget Max... (irrespective of my own reservations) he has to be given the credit for pushing the Redbull to it's limits and making it as dominant as it has been, similar to what Lewis has done outperforming his machinery throughout his dominant era.
After 2022, Redbull later carried on the almost same design to 2023 with little fine tuning here and there... And adding the weight reduction that they've done at the end of 2022 on top of it, the 2022 car which is already faster without the weight reduction has increased speed even further... And they took a little different approach in the first 2 races of the season where they chose higher downforce and (therefore drag) ... As their car is lighter and can afford to carry more downforce and still be fast.
However this performance gain is not as drastic as everyone is thinking...
But that said, only the lower teams in the rest of the grid (AlphaRomeo, Aston, AlphaTauri, Haas, Alphine and Williams) have improved drastically than last year, but the top teams of 2022 didn't improve much in comparison.
Mercedes actually fell back in a way... And Ferrari is gained a little bit top speed at the cost of downforce but still retained its reliability issues and McLaren is the most unfortunate.
So the other teams in the same league as Redbull didn't improve much from 2022 and Redbull most probably has just cut down additional weight compared to last year.
So, this is the reason Redbull looks as dominant as it is in 2023... But in actuality Redbull didn't improve drastically from last season, but they've just polished things here and there.
Ofc due to the wind tunnel restrictions, Redbull might lag in the in-season development and other teams hopefully develop in the right direction... So, nothing is fishy that Redbull looks dominant, but Redbull has just took the right decisions and did what is necessary, where as other top teams screwed up in their decision-making process and went in the wrong direction.
That's what it looks like objectively.
Coming to Aston Martin, what everyone is saying that it's a Redbull copy is totally BS.
Aston Martin's sidepods are more inspired by the Ferrari's wide sidepods for drag reduction and Aston Martin's ingenious idea of the valleys inside the ferrari-like sidepod walls... To improve the airflow to the beam wing. It's rear suspension, exhaust housing shoulder, everything is Mercedes inspired. Only the sidepod undercut is similar to Redbull.
McLaren is more Redbull inspired than any other team. They have almost same sidepods as Redbull and same pull rod suspension at the front both in 2022 and 2023.
But people just don't want to give credit to brilliant engineers at Aston and they just make it seem so simple as staff moved so they excelled at it by copying... That's now how it works. Aston is the same team who made successful backmarker cars capable of podiums manytimes in the Force India and Racing point days. ..
People should respect the effort of the engineers and not just put tags on their efforts.
All that aside, I'm really happy for Alonso. I've been cheering for him since 2012 and even before.. and this year is a great year for his fans.
Aston has made it... They made a competitive car which can compete with Redbull in highdown force tracks and in quali, and also in tire management.
Let's hope they shed more drag during the year and make it even better.
Ferrari has been competitive with Redbull in 2022 and even in Bahrain 2023 and if not for reliability, they can go toe to toe .. but in 2023 for some reason they seem to lack pace ... I hope they recover and give Leclerc and Carlos a chance to compete at the top.
I hope Mercedes gives George the car he deserves instead of Toto whining, putting up dramatics and blaming everyone all the time..
Let's hope this season turns out intersting!
PS: My prediction during 2021 that Gasly must go to Alphine as it is the ideal place he can shine came true . . . It's actually looking positive for him in the Alphine this year in 2023.. I'm happy to see this...
My dude, that's way too much text for a UA-cam comment. I think you should go outside once in a while.
@@Werkvuur hahaha... Good one... I do to go outside for my work and my other routine activities or for walking or other sports.
But anyway thank u for reminding... I'll keep that in mind... 😬
Generally, I have lot to say and I intrinsically like to write, so whether it's youtube or an article or a journal paper or a general conversation..., my weakness is thay whenever I write something, it becomes too wordy .... Can't help it ..
In this day and age, If someone has attention span to read it ..., Good for them. But, I only write for my own satisfaction.
Anyway, good day.✌️
Everytime a rb fans brings this up, I know it’s just cope, because we all know Lewis still had competition through his championship years, Redbull will never let Perez beat max. That’s the problem. Enjoy kneeling for your golden boy
This just proves the amount of time spent on development means less than understanding what you are doing.. Red Bull obviously has a (much) better understanding of these new cars and their groundeffect etc than anyone else right now and doesn't need as much time to figure things out and improve the car.. The RB19 probably is one the all time great F1 cars, another Newey masterpiece.. Their lead is so big now (over a second a lap faster than the 2nd best car in race trim) that they might keep this lead all the way until 2026 despite less development time.. In 2026 we get completely new engines and the balance between teams probably shifts again..
Credit to Redbull engineering department did the better job. Especially that they were involved in a close championship fight with Mercedes in 2021
As others said. Newey. Look at back when williams was dominet with mansell in 1992 and mclaren when mika won wdc 1998/99. And rb in 2010-14 and now
The answer is Adrian Newey. A master a genius. I hope RBR wins every race so Adrian can pursue some other challenge. Perhaps on another team or as a F1 consultant or something…
Off course is not a single man’s job. So cheers to all the RBR team! Hate it or not it’s quite an achievement.
"When we were fast, we weren't that fast" In your face, Lewis! 🤣
Best WTF1 video for a while, more on this style please
This is where individual talent and experience will shine hopefully (which makes for good races)
RB just perfected a very well made car.
Thanks to Honda giving Red bull the power combined with the aerodynamic genius of newey
In 2019 all teams were suspicious about Ferrari's pace advantage & found something fishy about fuel pump working & all of a sudden pace of Ferrari dropped drastically. Is there something fishy about RB19? (With all respect to genius Newey, race strategy, error free flawless driving by Max, great tyre management by Checo etc.) What is the thing he found which others are unable to? I think till 2026 RB will be as dominant as it is currently.
Well red bull took it to Mercedes when the Honda engine caught up in 2021 and then you have Adrian Newey who was around in the last ground affect era! Then they used the time to improve a already impressive concept that dominated, this is no surprise to me!
I think it shows that the penalty for going over the budget cap wasnt harsh on redbull.
Other teams should follow suit
Yesterday at Monza for example RB was not the fastest on the straights - it lacked top speed and the DRS effect wasn't so much crucial in Monza. RB19 is overall all aspect a very good car that adapts well to all circuits while other teams has developed cars that maybe excel (even over Redbull) for some particular situations. Plus the tyre wear is always the greatest advantage they have compared to other teams. In qualifying laps for example Ferrari has been very close if not faster in more than one occasion.
There are so many factors, it's hard to say just 1 thing. In the details of engineering, warped interpretation of regulation/rules, and the shortcomings of their competitors.
red bull probably has a twin jet engine hidden and when the drs opens it activates the jets
Yeah.. Honda make fighter jet 😂
@@numberone7251 on god ahhaha
it's more a mixed bag of a lot of things changes, plus fumbling of the other 3 teams fighting for the top. to be honest, i would not be surprised if they keep a margin above the rest come the 3/4 mark of the season.
They will breeze to another championship and will develop a monster car next year too😂
No way they got such a Goated commentator for these videos. Love bbc f1
I've given WTF1 a mention in my new upload on this precise subject. 'Red Bull's Unfair Advantage: For the Love of F1'. Feedback welcome.
After this weekend’s race in Austria, I really disagree with your thoughts on Red Bull having an aero advantage. The Ferraris were actually quicker through the corners and flat out top end speed. Red Bull’s clear advantage is acceleration out of the corners. The only way that happens is more horsepower….lots more. So, question is, where are their extra horses coming from?
where does WTF1 find the stock videos of cars racing?
If red Bull win every race this season, which it may just, it will be the most dominant car in history
I seem to remember that Hamilton held the race lap record of 1 30 and Max took fastest lap with a 1 31 on Saudi. How is he saying he has never seen a car this fast when technically, Mercedes was faster before?
It's definitely that Red Bull have a handle on the aero which is supported by how well the Aston is going. Ground effects is huge and they have the guy who literally wrote the book on it (Newey). But I think the biggest impact from the regulations is the restriction of how cars dump air so as to not create a bunch of "dirty" air so that cars can race closer. And I think this is where Mercedes is losing out the most. Hamilton has been complaining about not enough downforce whereas the Red Bull is enjoying corner entry stability and overall corner agility. Meanwhile with DRS, the RB seems totally energized. It's balanced. Mercedes seems to not be controlling the air flow well to get downforce while not being energized enough to take advantage of their strong powerplant.
Adrian Newey, it's that simple, he is a genius. You don't need as much aero testing available if the idea that comes out of the guys head is just head and shoulders above everybody else's even before its been through any testing and tweaking.
I think it's been pretty well shown that the AM is not a Red Bull copy, except perhaps cosmetically. I think a big part of the reason for RB's advantage is that as teams, Merc and Ferrari aren't working well, though for different reasons. We'd be in a different place if Merc had decided in 2022 to take an off year and ditch the design they admitted wasn't working rather than to evolve the problems out of it. Ferrari . . . Ferrari just can't get out of its own way due to internal politics. Marinello has too much control, and whoever is the Team Principal is going to be hamstrung unless they can break that. And Vasseur may well be The One. Shades of Toyota being crippled by old-school Japanese corporate management theories.
I was going to argue that Honda designed an engine specifically JUST for RB. Then again, Ferrari and Mercedes can do as well. It was actually also the reason why Mercedes dominated for so long.
Adrian Newey did this ground effect thing in the 80's and 90's. So for him this is the second time developing the GE dynamics. Easy!
Red Bill probably knew last year that they where on the right track, hence dumping extra money into their development while it was still at full capacity and where then able to put their theory’s to the test at races much sooner.
RB are cheating, but teams just don't know how. Fact is... the rest have made normalised progression. When you have 15+ teams progressing so similar, something is wrong... RB breezed past Ferrari as if they were standing still!
They are using flexible parts that lock out when inspected.
I think we have our answer after the technical directive and Singapore
what size motor does redbull car runs ..???
I'm guessing the catering has something to do with it. At my job when the management provides a nice lunch it's boosts moral and efficiency.
I think this really just shows that RB probably also had the best aero from 2014 to 2021, but that Mercedes was faster purely because of their engine.
its faster sure, but only because of the lack of competition at the moment, by the mid season teams like mercedes and aston (maybe ferrari) would have caught up, and RedBulls cost penalty will make it hard for them to develop the car
that’s just not true tho. merc has to switch to a whole new concept they’ve never tested irl n aston is too far behind. redbull can go the whole season with this car n dominate
I think redbull always had aerodynamic advantage while Mercedes had power advantage. Now redbull has an engine better than merc with great aerodynamics too
If a non Red Bull driver wins a race this year they should get a victory parade. Max and Checo really looked unstoppable in Jeddah, especially Max.
I remember people mocking Red Bull's RB19 launch, saying its boring, same car blah blah..in my heart I knew they were hiding a deadly weapon and didn't care about glitz and glamour of launch and livery.
As long as Newey is with them, RB doesn't need much wind tunnel time at all
Aero efficiency. Unlike the Merc in 2021, which seems to rely on horsepower advantage (as in Interlagos), the Redbull seems aerodynamically "slippery"
When did you ever discuss about the title of the video?
Christian Horner just found the difficulty slider and put it down to 0 like f1 22. One day I hope I can find the difficulty slider for elden ring so I can actually complete it.
If you find it let me know!
It is really Adrian Newey, but these things sort of come in cycles Mercedes were so dominant for years after Red Bull and Vettel, both Ferrari and Mercedes could be back next year especially if they make gains in their engine.
When were fast we weren't that fast--
Perfect
The only reason RB were able to get a couple of wins in the Mercedes dominant and partially strong Ferrari era was their aero. Their engine was no where near as good as the merc and the Ferrari so when the Honda engine was close to the merc's in terms of power figures, the aero they've been perfecting for years has come into play, so when most of the engines across the board are pretty level on power figures, the aero focused RB have now put out a car that seems to be on another level. Just look at the speed comparison of the merc and RB when the drs flap was open for Max in jeddah.
It's break hourse power is highest among all the f1 1050 were as farari and others are in 900 hp power
its quite simple... redbull gives you wings
As someone who watched this 11 months in the future, yes, yes redbull has absolutely dominated
Happily surprised to return and hear Jack Nicholls on here, but please get him a better quality audio recording setup.
I think Mercedes been taking thier dominance from engine, an RedBull from areo, but its been 9 years and Honda did pretty good job and catch up to merc
That Honda engine on speed drugs
RB got Newey.
the regulations are more Aero focussed and Newey created a monster.
add Verstappen driving that monster.
almost unbeatable. (only if external issues happen it can be beaten)
Doesnt use race fuel / instead loads it up w sugar free Red Bull 👍
Looking at that red bull one must admit it looks like a jet fighter.
He's not wrong. It's not good for F1 having a car that much better than the other but it's also funny af coming from him.
Honestly the biggest thing here isn't so much that Red Bull have taken a step forward, it's that Ferrari and Mercedes haven't. I think that's slightly clouded by the fact Alpine and Mclaren can't get their act together right now but AM certainly proved that it's far from impossible to find big steps.
They removed the catering storage on the car, that's my theory
They carried a lot of pizza for the crew 😂😂
red bull has ORACLE,newey, the best engineers and the best organisation on the grid thats why..
What has Oracle to do with it?
Extracting the most than any other team from the cost cap is the Winner
Redbull their car has changed since when Sebastian Vettel leave Redbull this year they make it even more better when Max Verstappen when driving it this year
Fans after race 1: Bahrain curse lol
Fans after race 2: New era of Red Bull domination…
Certainly, Mercedes has failed this year (and I say this as a Merc fan). Aston Martin, on the same engine, went from seventh to second. So that matters. I was hoping to see Mercedes on par with RB.
Aston Martin is also not ashamed to just outright copy philosophies lol
This years car is like a Frankenstein between RedBull and Ferrari concepts. With Dan Fallows over there, they will be the main challenger for years to come as they'll be evolving on both concepts going forward.
Papa Stroll really knows how to invest correctly lol.
@@joereality1664 But if the car is a copy of RB, Ferrari and 50% of Mercedes, the car is copying no one. There is no Frankenstein, they had good ideas, good implementations and hard work over the winter. If i were an engineer of AM i would be either laughing or offended
@@joereality1664 so making a car that has similar ideas to others is now copying? for one the cars don't look nothing alike between Redbull and AM, but only radically different concept is Mercedes's one.
@@FaceFish9 SKY F1 wasn't calling their B-Spec car "The Green Bull" last year cuz it looked liked a painted angus cow...
They didn't radically change philosophy this year either, they simply evolved the 'Green Bull' template and that's just true.
@@joereality1664 only the sidepods looked the same on the green bull but they clearly had a different idea on how it works cause it didn't bring them any gains last year.
I’m wondering whether they are doing something with the floor that might be illegal