I haven't had to defend this choke against someone who is legitimately good at it, but against the couple who have tried it against me, cross-facing and stacking the bottom guy worked pretty well. That said, your defenses seem much more sound. Thank you, professor.
I haven't had to defend against black belts using this choke but the blue belt and purple belt who tried this on me, I took out my cross face arm from around the head like you did, but I put my wrist and forearm into their throat while gripping their shoulder (this was no-gi) and they released the choke. I like the early prevention a lot. Turning it into an arm triangle attempt makes good sense.
My friend, I was capeble to defend my self on competition with this kind of logical thinking. I was competinig with much more stronger and heavier oponent in absolute division and i did that. Now i whatched this video and i'm so proud of my self because i had that logical thinking before i even watched this video. I wanted to shere this with you, good luck, and I wish you all the best. Thanks.
It can work, especially if you are about the same height. If the person on the bottom is taller than you then you might not be able to drive your shoulder to his neck effectively.
@@MMALeech It looked very effective as long as you have your arm free to wrap around the head and under the shoulder blade. Silver Fox Pravec demonstrated it on a taller bigger person with great effect with the Buggy choke fully locked on. Your detail of pushing the head forward is great also.
@@jiujudo1307 The kinetic chain is just how different parts of the body are connected and how they interact in relation to each other. There is debate if the Kinetic chain is even that relevant since not all parts of the body (chain) are equally important. It's hardly a secret in grappling. I was more referring to Kinetic Linkage which is much more relevant to striking.
Thanks for this. I have never seen this choke before. I'm sure it is a surprise to many people now. But it is easy to see it coming, the defenses you suggest seem strong, and the person doing it faces the risk of an arm triangle set up, so do you think in a year or two, people will stop using it?
I think it's one of those moves that doesn't really hurt if you try it, since you are already in a bad position (bottom side control), it might scare some people off which could help escape side control 🤷
A guy at my gym would always do the buggy choke. I never got roll with him. Before he left. I feel it a good choke. But you have be in a bad position to get it. I think people learn how to escape side control and then the buggy choke. I don’t think i am that flexible yet
It's been done at the highest level, PJ Barch was caught in a tournament, there's also a rolling footage of Josh Hinger getting caught by it, so you don't need to be a recreational player to be caught by the Buggy. Regarding flexibility, you don't need to be crazy flexible, I'm not that flexible and am still able to do it
The Ruotolos brought it to the highest levels of competition in grappling, before them it was mostly used at the smaller tournaments by lower ranked practitioners. It has been done in MMA too successfully.
Not only did it teach the defence, it helped me better understand the buggy choke. Thanks.
I haven't had to defend this choke against someone who is legitimately good at it, but against the couple who have tried it against me, cross-facing and stacking the bottom guy worked pretty well. That said, your defenses seem much more sound. Thank you, professor.
You are welcome Matt!
*Every black belt furiously watching these videos after the trials*
I was submitted with this last night. Now I have some options. Thank you
You are welcome Micaiah!
BJJ Eastern Europe brought me here. Thank you so much for posting!
You are welcome!
I haven't had to defend against black belts using this choke but the blue belt and purple belt who tried this on me, I took out my cross face arm from around the head like you did, but I put my wrist and forearm into their throat while gripping their shoulder (this was no-gi) and they released the choke. I like the early prevention a lot. Turning it into an arm triangle attempt makes good sense.
A perfect explanation of the attack and defense of this technique. Thank you, master.
This is great to see! Well explained!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for sharing this important and easy-to-remember principle! I hope to incorporate it in my practice.
Glad you liked it!
My friend, I was capeble to defend my self on competition with this kind of logical thinking. I was competinig with much more stronger and heavier oponent in absolute division and i did that. Now i whatched this video and i'm so proud of my self because i had that logical thinking before i even watched this video. I wanted to shere this with you, good luck, and I wish you all the best. Thanks.
Great explanation and defense. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Cole!
Thank you professor 🙏
Oss
You are welcome James!
Succinct but thorough video; exceptional. Thanks.
Thanks John!
Thank you for this defense!!
You are welcome Jerry!
Thanks professor
You are welcome!
Thank you Prof
You are welcome Khaled!
Von Flue counter works well against the Buggy Choke. Check out Silver Fox's UA-cam channel for his explanation on it.
It can work, especially if you are about the same height. If the person on the bottom is taller than you then you might not be able to drive your shoulder to his neck effectively.
@@MMALeech It looked very effective as long as you have your arm free to wrap around the head and under the shoulder blade. Silver Fox Pravec demonstrated it on a taller bigger person with great effect with the Buggy choke fully locked on. Your detail of pushing the head forward is great also.
@@zazen69 awesome, give them a try and pick the one that best fits your style
@@MMALeech Would love to see you do a video on it.
Excellent instruction
Thanks James!
Great detail and super helpful video, thank you!
Got hit this this sub last night, now I'm ready! Thank you Professor!
Very good video... The master looks like John Statham lol 😆🤣
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Osss! Professor thank you 🙏
Thank you
Awesome thank you
You are welcome D!
Thanx for all the details. 💯
You are welcome!
step 1: stand and lift opponent.
step 2: slam opponent's head on ground with combined weight.
Thanks, Professor!🥋🤙🏻😎
You are welcome John!
Great explanations 👍
Great video!
I’m trying to utilize the buggy, need to know how to not let them escape.
This is killer
awesome!
i swear to all thats good and holy if one more white belt tries to buggie choke me im gonna lose it. good video though
Great explanation, you can stand up too
The same with a triangle choke, but depends if they guy doing is good at the buggy choke you will pass out before standing up.
The Kinetic Chain - The best kept secret in grappling!
100%
Not much kinetic energy when you are lying on your back.
@@zazen69 You have zero understanding of the Kinetic Chain.
@@jiujudo1307 The kinetic chain is just how different parts of the body are connected and how they interact in relation to each other. There is debate if the Kinetic chain is even that relevant since not all parts of the body (chain) are equally important. It's hardly a secret in grappling. I was more referring to Kinetic Linkage which is much more relevant to striking.
@@zazen69 OK.
Can a Von flue counter work against the Buggy choke?
That's what I have always used to defend it.
Thanks for this. I have never seen this choke before. I'm sure it is a surprise to many people now. But it is easy to see it coming, the defenses you suggest seem strong, and the person doing it faces the risk of an arm triangle set up, so do you think in a year or two, people will stop using it?
I think it's one of those moves that doesn't really hurt if you try it, since you are already in a bad position (bottom side control), it might scare some people off which could help escape side control 🤷
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I think this is the reverse buggy.
Just don't put your right elbow to the mat. Frame their far hip with your elbow and you are safe.
Great option too before it's locked.
A guy at my gym would always do the buggy choke. I never got roll with him. Before he left. I feel it a good choke. But you have be in a bad position to get it. I think people learn how to escape side control and then the buggy choke. I don’t think i am that flexible yet
I can't do this choke my hamstrings are too tight.
I’m here after watching rutolo
von ful choke is always there for the top guy....
Just curious. Will many recreational players really be caught in this? Don't you have to be crazy flexible to get it on?
It's been done at the highest level, PJ Barch was caught in a tournament, there's also a rolling footage of Josh Hinger getting caught by it, so you don't need to be a recreational player to be caught by the Buggy.
Regarding flexibility, you don't need to be crazy flexible, I'm not that flexible and am still able to do it
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Tighter buggy if you’re not flat on your back
I attack the von flue to defend
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I've watched one other video of a biggy choke. I've come to the conclusion the only defence against a buggy choke is another buggy choke.
Gotta give respect where it’s due. The rutolo brothers made it what it is. Tbh it’s disrespectful.
The Ruotolos brought it to the highest levels of competition in grappling, before them it was mostly used at the smaller tournaments by lower ranked practitioners.
It has been done in MMA too successfully.
Disrespectful? What is? And the first time I saw this choke was from Craig Jones. Nobody owns a choke 😂
Muito Bom ta sexy 👏
Thank you