I have those same exact tfs heads. What size aluminum rod is needed to insert in thermistor channel of exhaust ports, an where can I buy them, also I have wiseco flat tops, they need flycuts for intake because my came is .696 solid roller cam, how deep do you think I need to have new fly cut for clearance, or do I need to mock up motor for that determination, or is there a standard amount to be safe. I am considering these on 408 stroker. Drag race only, will these work well or do you feel they are better for a 306ci motor, any advice will be help full. 306 I run high RPM's the 408 will be under 7000, what do you think.thank you for any advice
I have learned afr angle plugs more header friendly than brodix angle plugs. When i switch from afr comp 195 to dragon slayer 225 i also ended up switching headers
First, I watch all your videos to the end. I’m wondering what Brodix would charge to duplicate your hand porting on their CNC once it was digitized. Maybe do a quicker program (big step, medium step?) and leave the valve job to you. I don’t know how much time it takes you to port out that 15 or 16 ccs of material per intake port, but there must be a more efficient way! Maybe core shift makes this a non-starter, but I’m just wondering. And we’d sure like to see dyno results some day! Thanks Eric!
I have his IK 195 heads. 227/233 @50 cam. 486 HP at 6000 and 474 TQ at 4700. Dyno operator stopped at 6000. I doubt with the cam it would have gotten much more but I think the heads are definitely capable of quite a bit more.
No mate we watch till the end always! yt is messing with you Big cheers from Australia and yes we port our own, thank you for the knowledge from all the hot rodders
Great video.Then the ones who bail early will write a derogatory comment about something he/she would have seen if they'd watched the entire video.Attention span....or lack there of.
I skipped to the flow sheets and started from there. There’s only so much time allotted to UA-cam in a day , much like answering phone calls or answering email about -“ where’s my heads?”
Huh. My set came 1204, and I opened it to 1205 to suit an existing manifold. I had to laugh about short attention span theater - its so true: people watch a bit, get the gist, then....squirrel! I noticed years ago how tv news behaves: a typical segment might be 30 seconds tops, while 2+ minutes was a huge segment of airtime. That conditioning has raised a generation of impairment perhaps Anyway... do your thing - it works.
If you raise the runners, epoxy the floor but keep the port volume the same does that improve flow? I’ve seen pics of that being done on heads in super stock classes and it seems like there is room on those Brodix heads to do it. I’m sure it’s not as cost effective. Might as well go to a 18° head or better but I’m just trying to understand all the angles before I make a decision.
@@Rob94hawk the issue you run into is that you spend dozens of hours trying to make something maybe as good as something that is available on the shelf. You can buy 18° heads and intake and with less money and time have something thats probably going to work better than a filled and raised 23° head. If you want to grow from there porting the 18° head is always and option after that.
it is very apparent you do really nice work, but its damned hard to beat the afr195 for the money. they flow decent, make excellent power for the size, and are a quality piece.
hahaha....when I check my views on my facebook page a couple of days after I uploaded a new post/video the amount of views/hits runs into the hundreds and often 1.5k. Thats nice...but only 10 or 20 percent watches half or more of the video. It just shows the short concentration span of a lot of people.
Appreciate the videos. I was going to be porting some 193's but now I have the Summit Precision cast 195 65cc chambers which are basically tge AFR's I believe and they come with the AFR stickers and paperwork.
I watch all your videos front to back no exception and enjoy them all. So someone is not pulling their weight and is watching less than half. Or your average would not be half. That makes us die hards just a little smarter. 😁 Now about the bo_ b images. When these inapropriate things block us from sharing good engineering blueprints and or diagrams impeding the progression of science. Something is not right here and we must find a work around.🤔 🍅🍌🍅
23:52 No, YOU can port that IK head to flow like the new head. Roughly how many hours for just the port work, seems like that could represent 2 to 3 days of grinding alone.
Hvnt watched the vid yet but a few years back there was a head porter in so cal that used a brodix casting SBC , modified it himself n it totally annialated any other 23 degree head in existence ,sorry bout my spelling
Eric I live right across the line in Arkansas. I know you have said what you charge for a 45 valve job. To get a good valve job I have to go to Oklahoma anyway and am paying I think to much. When I need another pair done I'll get ahold of you.
I ended up getting the IK 210 cnc'd version due to the straight plugs working with my swap headers. I figure they will work, not super concerned for max power, headers are too small for big power.
What if the analytics you get are meant to make you change your way of delivering content and have nothing to do with what your subscribers actually want? You are making decisions based on inputs from an obviously shady source.
Probably? But at what cost? I’m sure it cost more than a out the box 195 afr heads. Also how long would it take to get a set of ported brodix 180 vs just ordering a out the box afr 195?
I mentioned the cost of the heads in the video. My ported ik is cheaper than the afr195 comp version and the same price as the street port version. It takes an extra 3months for me to do a set vs just ordering afr195.
Maybe application is more important than cost [within reason]. There is nothing to really complain about with afr, but if you want to reach for more room to be application specific Brodix seems to leave space for the users know-how & creativity - I like that. I dont build nitrous motors but I am mindful of their peculiarity: because fuel chemistry is altered [to get more oxygen into the burn than however many grams of air came in with a charge] you effectively have two motors. There's compression size and then there is combustion size. For that reason, reaching for exhaust mods ekes out intake by just a hair but a builder will look at both, to make sure you don't ever find yourself coming up off bdc with too much residual pressue remaining on an exhaust stroke that kills power [or worse].
Hey man, I watch Jocko Willink and Joe Rogan videos to the bitter end - I ain't afraid of long format content... I've never understood why someone would only watch half the video if it's good. And if it's not good, why they would get to the halfway point, LOL
Could you port the Promaxx 183 head to flow the same numbers and if so how much would it cost and how much time would it take? I have a new set that I wish I had not bought but maybe you can make me happy with them?
Got it just buy afr and get on with life they seem to out perform all the others bang for buck and time included i have 2 engines 434 and 383 220 cc and 210 cc love them both
Have you ever had the opportunity to “fix” a set of the 195 comp heads. I’d like to have mine done without making them much larger than 200ccs and try to fix that drop off after .600” lift.
Why not use the IK200 brodix head instead the iron killer 180 head? I use the IK200 heads on all scb builds except for the racing builds that are 400+ ci projects that do best with AFR 220 heads that flow 300+cfm.
Made it to the end.. again…
Thank you Eric for another quality and informative video.
Would love to see you show how to install the brass tubes. Is it something that can be done at home?
I have filmed it and it should publish next month.
I have those same exact tfs heads. What size aluminum rod is needed to insert in thermistor channel of exhaust ports, an where can I buy them, also I have wiseco flat tops, they need flycuts for intake because my came is .696 solid roller cam, how deep do you think I need to have new fly cut for clearance, or do I need to mock up motor for that determination, or is there a standard amount to be safe. I am considering these on 408 stroker. Drag race only, will these work well or do you feel they are better for a 306ci motor, any advice will be help full. 306 I run high RPM's the 408 will be under 7000, what do you think.thank you for any advice
I have learned afr angle plugs more header friendly than brodix angle plugs. When i switch from afr comp 195 to dragon slayer 225 i also ended up switching headers
I like the longer videos. And I thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge. God bless you and your family.
First, I watch all your videos to the end. I’m wondering what Brodix would charge to duplicate your hand porting on their CNC once it was digitized. Maybe do a quicker program (big step, medium step?) and leave the valve job to you. I don’t know how much time it takes you to port out that 15 or 16 ccs of material per intake port, but there must be a more efficient way! Maybe core shift makes this a non-starter, but I’m just wondering. And we’d sure like to see dyno results some day! Thanks Eric!
I have his IK 195 heads. 227/233 @50 cam. 486 HP at 6000 and 474 TQ at 4700. Dyno operator stopped at 6000. I doubt with the cam it would have gotten much more but I think the heads are definitely capable of quite a bit more.
On a 383
@@tylerburnett4644 very nice!
@@tylerburnett4644 That is impressive numbers with those cam numbers. What intake and carb did you use?
@@KM-os4be eldebrock RPM airgap that he port matched to the heads and a Quickfuel 750 mechanical carb.
No mate we watch till the end always! yt is messing with you Big cheers from Australia and yes we port our own, thank you for the knowledge from all the hot rodders
Great video.Then the ones who bail early will write a derogatory comment about something he/she would have seen if they'd watched the entire video.Attention span....or lack there of.
I’ve got the AFR 195 Comp heads. And one port has a little tiny shadow.
I skipped to the flow sheets and started from there. There’s only so much time allotted to UA-cam in a day , much like answering phone calls or answering email about -“ where’s my heads?”
Eric I watch the video I'm here to learn and sometimes the gems are at the back half of the video
Huh. My set came 1204, and I opened it to 1205 to suit an existing manifold.
I had to laugh about short attention span theater - its so true: people watch a bit, get the gist, then....squirrel! I noticed years ago how tv news behaves: a typical segment might be 30 seconds tops, while 2+ minutes was a huge segment of airtime. That conditioning has raised a generation of impairment perhaps Anyway... do your thing - it works.
If you raise the runners, epoxy the floor but keep the port volume the same does that improve flow? I’ve seen pics of that being done on heads in super stock classes and it seems like there is room on those Brodix heads to do it. I’m sure it’s not as cost effective. Might as well go to a 18° head or better but I’m just trying to understand all the angles before I make a decision.
I could but people aren’t paying for that.
@@WeingartnerRacing so I’ll take that as a yes. Flow does increase.
@@Rob94hawk the issue you run into is that you spend dozens of hours trying to make something maybe as good as something that is available on the shelf. You can buy 18° heads and intake and with less money and time have something thats probably going to work better than a filled and raised 23° head. If you want to grow from there porting the 18° head is always and option after that.
@@timothybayliss6680 Yeah you pretty much reiterated what I said in my original post. But no one ever answered the question.
BTC-SR004S-16 is the spring retainer part no so you can start running 1.3" duals in those IK heads
it is very apparent you do really nice work, but its damned hard to beat the afr195 for the money. they flow decent, make excellent power for the size, and are a quality piece.
hahaha....when I check my views on my facebook page a couple of days after I uploaded a new post/video the amount of views/hits runs into the hundreds and often 1.5k. Thats nice...but only 10 or 20 percent watches half or more of the video.
It just shows the short concentration span of a lot of people.
Your videos are always interesting. If possible can you show how you insert brass tubes in the heads? TIA
I have a video made for it. I just have not published it yet. I will probably put it out next month.
Appreciate the videos. I was going to be porting some 193's but now I have the Summit Precision cast 195 65cc chambers which are basically tge AFR's I believe and they come with the AFR stickers and paperwork.
I watch all your videos front to back no exception and enjoy them all. So someone is not pulling their weight and is watching less than half. Or your average would not be half. That makes us die hards just a little smarter. 😁
Now about the bo_ b images. When these inapropriate things block us from sharing good engineering blueprints and or diagrams impeding the progression of science. Something is not right here and we must find a work around.🤔
🍅🍌🍅
23:52 No, YOU can port that IK head to flow like the new head. Roughly how many hours for just the port work, seems like that could represent 2 to 3 days of grinding alone.
Hvnt watched the vid yet but a few years back there was a head porter in so cal that used a brodix casting SBC , modified it himself n it totally annialated any other 23 degree head in existence ,sorry bout my spelling
I could but people aren’t paying for that time.
Responded to wrong comment sorry.
Eric I live right across the line in Arkansas. I know you have said what you charge for a 45 valve job. To get a good valve job I have to go to Oklahoma anyway and am paying I think to much. When I need another pair done I'll get ahold of you.
I ended up getting the IK 210 cnc'd version due to the straight plugs working with my swap headers. I figure they will work, not super concerned for max power, headers are too small for big power.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍 ,Always good content all the way to the end ✅
Have you ever seen the fueling center fire big block Chevy head? Is there any way to make them run with a modern head?
3 minutes in I’m going to say it flows better than the afr comp but not race head
Most would watch till the first ad then stop, if the analytics show where the ad was placed it'll likely tell the tale. Great vids by the way
What if the analytics you get are meant to make you change your way of delivering content and have nothing to do with what your subscribers actually want? You are making decisions based on inputs from an obviously shady source.
Probably? But at what cost? I’m sure it cost more than a out the box 195 afr heads. Also how long would it take to get a set of ported brodix 180 vs just ordering a out the box afr 195?
I mentioned the cost of the heads in the video. My ported ik is cheaper than the afr195 comp version and the same price as the street port version. It takes an extra 3months for me to do a set vs just ordering afr195.
Maybe application is more important than cost [within reason]. There is nothing to really complain about with afr, but if you want to reach for more room to be application specific Brodix seems to leave space for the users know-how & creativity - I like that. I dont build nitrous motors but I am mindful of their peculiarity: because fuel chemistry is altered [to get more oxygen into the burn than however many grams of air came in with a charge] you effectively have two motors. There's compression size and then there is combustion size. For that reason, reaching for exhaust mods ekes out intake by just a hair but a builder will look at both, to make sure you don't ever find yourself coming up off bdc with too much residual pressue remaining on an exhaust stroke that kills power [or worse].
What is your minimum CSA compared to AFR?
Hey man, I watch Jocko Willink and Joe Rogan videos to the bitter end - I ain't afraid of long format content...
I've never understood why someone would only watch half the video if it's good.
And if it's not good, why they would get to the halfway point, LOL
yeah! 20:10 this thing is just KILLIN IT! lol awesome!
Could you port the Promaxx 183 head to flow the same numbers and if so how much would it cost and how much time would it take? I have a new set that I wish I had not bought but maybe you can make me happy with them?
Got it just buy afr and get on with life they seem to out perform all the others bang for buck and time included i have 2 engines 434 and 383 220 cc and 210 cc love them both
Have you ever digitized your ports so they can be cnc"d?
Yes several different designs but they are older and different so they didn’t sell.
Have you ever had the opportunity to “fix” a set of the 195 comp heads. I’d like to have mine done without making them much larger than 200ccs and try to fix that drop off after .600” lift.
Why not use the IK200 brodix head instead the iron killer 180 head? I use the IK200 heads on all scb builds except for the racing builds that are 400+ ci projects that do best with AFR 220 heads that flow 300+cfm.
Because when you port them they end up larger than 195cc.
Because when you port them they end up larger than 195cc.
Please do no make the videos shorter. I travel a lot and like to watch your videos to pass the time.
I don’t see how the Dyno numbers would be off any more than the flow numbers
I watch the hole thing. Most folks want the instant gratification but hard to learn that way . All about details
What is the difference compared a straight plug to a angle plug as in performance
Thanks! I really enjoyed this one and your series about porting the KMJ/Assault heads
I pretty much watch til the end on most all of these
I always watch to the end as well. Keep those videos coming. :)
Awesome content gave my 100 motivation to do it myself but let’s see 😂
I would say very close but not better
I watch at 2x speed
Eric, how do you rate pro filer castings
Currently too damn expensive. They are much closer to the price of a full cnc ported afr now. As far as performance they do very good.
Great video