Third Way Warms Up To Elizabeth Warren | Chapo Trap House | Episode 325

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  • @mcath87
    @mcath87 4 роки тому +30

    Once again, Matt perfectly predicted the future (at 1:30): "I don't think it's more likely Warren is going to get the nomination than Bernie, she's going to deny Bernie the nomination and then Biden gets it."

  • @LarryPokeTrainer
    @LarryPokeTrainer 4 роки тому +31

    wow, amber and matt nailed that at the beginning

  • @juliusc.8
    @juliusc.8 5 років тому +52

    Matt's critique of Warren was the most accurate.

    • @bengurwell1500
      @bengurwell1500 5 років тому +14

      Matt is the most accurate about almost everything.

  • @mark-A-antonius
    @mark-A-antonius 3 роки тому +15

    its insane how well amber’s arguments held out

  • @HaeravonFAQs
    @HaeravonFAQs 4 роки тому +12

    Remember back in 2019, when we still had hope?

  • @thescopedogable
    @thescopedogable 5 років тому +78

    If she ruins this for us I will never forgive her

    • @plasticiconoclastic
      @plasticiconoclastic 5 років тому

      I'm sure she'll be heartbroken.

    • @warmlycalculated390
      @warmlycalculated390 5 років тому +11

      @@zackamania6534 Warren is trash. Doesn't mean that if it comes down to her v. fascist orange rape slug we won't still pick the lesser evil. But in the primaries there is ZERO reason to support Warren over Sanders. Zero.

    • @discogodfather22
      @discogodfather22 5 років тому

      Hillary or Warren?

    • @zackamania6534
      @zackamania6534 5 років тому +1

      Warmly Calculated so she’s actually “TRASH”....?
      Meaning, a garbage human being?
      Hmm. I wonder WHY folks hate Bernouts so much and find them impossible to interact with on the web? Hmmm, what could make so many feel that way, hmmm....

    • @warmlycalculated390
      @warmlycalculated390 5 років тому +2

      @@zackamania6534 I literally just said I would vote for her in the general. But I genuinely believe she wouldn't beat Trump, and that makes her bad. Or, even worse, she could act as a spoiler for Bernie, thus giving Biden the nomination who would also lose to Trump, and even if he did win (not likely) he's almost as bad as Trump anyway.
      So as of now, she's trash, QED. But if she drops out and endorses Bernie, she snaps right back to awesome, which she was before she entered 2020.

  • @rosaluxemburg1670
    @rosaluxemburg1670 5 років тому +40

    I ❤️ CHAPO TRAP HOUSE!

    • @rosaluxemburg1670
      @rosaluxemburg1670 5 років тому +3

      @@GeorgeNoory42069 they said it was in the mail, but that was weeks ago... 😒

  • @shumpwumbus2813
    @shumpwumbus2813 3 роки тому +14

    God, this is brutal to listen to now, Matt and Amber were so fuckin on point about this

  • @neonlost
    @neonlost 5 років тому +29

    Bernie2020

  • @bryangarcia3723
    @bryangarcia3723 4 роки тому +19

    This aged like a fine head of cheese

  • @feydrautha012
    @feydrautha012 5 років тому +6

    Elizabeth Warren showed us who she was, and whether she's willing to fight for progressive causes that she's 'embraced', in 2016. We should believe her by her actions.

  • @Daniea3
    @Daniea3 5 років тому +33

    It was my understanding that Warren was the Third Way candidate, to be honest. Haven't they all been on the MSNBC panels since April pushing Warren? As for 'spoiler', looks like Yang to me. He's also changing his mind every other week.

    • @jordanallen3078
      @jordanallen3078 5 років тому +3

      Not on Israel, or capitalism. Yangs stance on these two issues are rock solid. He knows what team he's on, and it ain't team Yang Gang or team 99%. 😂😂😂

    • @michaelh878
      @michaelh878 5 років тому

      Only because Harris, Beto and Buttigieg have failed.

    • @thisisvalkyrie
      @thisisvalkyrie 5 років тому +4

      yeah they’re trying to prime yang as a spoiler now bc he’ll stay in till super tuesday and a couple polls said yang voters overlap with bernie voters even though it’s more about the “outsider” candidate for these voters than any sort of ideology. media’s already souring on warren with her trojan horse healthcare bill; they’ll push buttigieg and klobuchar these last few months till the caucuses and then well, i guess i’ll see y’all in wisconsin next year for the convention riots lmao

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair 4 роки тому +3

      Yang is the Pickle Rick candidate. He’s #1 with epic Reddit guys and Elon Musk fanboys who take all the pandering nerd shit as gospel.

    • @benjaminpark5460
      @benjaminpark5460 4 роки тому +1

      Chris F.S. That... is t most astute thing I’ve ever read

  • @SuperBlahmaster
    @SuperBlahmaster 5 років тому +37

    Warren is Obama.
    Sanders is FDR.

    • @jasonblahafitness6349
      @jasonblahafitness6349 5 років тому +1

      🤢

    • @croisaor2308
      @croisaor2308 5 років тому +3

      Jimmy Carter would be a better analogue to Warren. I actually like her and her policies, but I don't think she's strong enough to win or get her legislation implemented.

    • @ashevillecat
      @ashevillecat 4 роки тому

      ironically Vermont is one of just two states that voted against FDR...all four times.

    • @ashevillecat
      @ashevillecat 4 роки тому

      @@TonyBustaroni and allied with the biggest monster of them all...Stalin

    • @samanthaprehn4537
      @samanthaprehn4537 4 роки тому

      FDR put the Japanese into concentration camps and the New Deal singlehandedly prevented the rise of left wing populism in America. Every president has been a war criminal, Bernie is like none of them.

  • @aaronwriterguy
    @aaronwriterguy 5 років тому +26

    Comment for Comrade Algorithm

    • @Spudst3r
      @Spudst3r 4 роки тому +1

      This bot agrees.

  • @chazbennett8676
    @chazbennett8676 5 років тому +62

    Female Obama, All Hope ZERO Change.

    • @nn6404
      @nn6404 5 років тому +7

      Even worse. She's running an Obama style campaign but she has a fraction of the charisma, and we already know how that fucking ends up. Steadily pushing the country to the right and then a fascist in the white house.

    • @nerag7459
      @nerag7459 5 років тому

      Only if no one runs will we win.

    • @nerag7459
      @nerag7459 5 років тому

      Obama was Obama's Obama.

    • @FionaOfMountLawley
      @FionaOfMountLawley 5 років тому

      She might get something done in relation to corporate accountability in general, or at least the abuse of customers and public funds by banks and other financial institutions. Because that's something I'm pretty sure she genuinely cares about. The payday loan industry would have to do something pretty remarkable to avoid being be in real trouble, probably.

    • @nosuchperson284
      @nosuchperson284 5 років тому

      Obama had already sold his soul to the financial and insurance industries. The Third Way is desparate for air. They're going the way of the DLC. Warren twisted Obama's arm to set up the CFPB. Summers, Geithner, Emanuel all hated her. She's a long way from Obama.

  • @LowescC
    @LowescC 4 роки тому +3

    Bravo, Amber

  • @karlfagerstrom
    @karlfagerstrom 4 роки тому +1

    1:37 mwomp mwomp called it

  • @maverick88005
    @maverick88005 4 роки тому +5

    Anybody know Amber's last name? I wanna see if she has her own channel she has pretty good commentary

    • @NA-kz8bn
      @NA-kz8bn 4 роки тому +1

      Amber A’lee Frost

  • @bigfatdynamo246
    @bigfatdynamo246 3 роки тому +1

    Oh shit, Jen Psaki is quoted in this. She was a Warren creature.

  • @butterflyblues2917
    @butterflyblues2917 5 років тому +10

    My feeling about Liz is that she's the left of center centrist (a REAL centrist, not Republican Lite sold as centrist) that I can live with and support in good conscience. I would caution you not to take a left of center centrist for granted, as we've not had one for decades and decades. Fight like hell for Sanders in the primary, and if she wins, you should fight like hell for her because even incremental change is rare and valuable to the cause.

    • @butterflyblues2917
      @butterflyblues2917 5 років тому +1

      @Alex Arviso First, everyone has an obligation to accept whoever is running against Trump once the deal is done. If you don't realize that then you need to check your own privilege because clearly it's not your family member in an ICE detention center, your reproductive rights at stake, etc. But as for rallying behind her, I'm sorry but the revolution probably won't happen- and I'm saying that as a Sanders voter. Even if he wins you'll still have to deal with only getting done what you actually CAN get done with massive opposition mobilized against you. The left (I mean the REAL left, not the democratic party as a whole) always loses because we're all sitting around waiting for the glorious working class uprising rather than coming up with actionable, achievable, progressive goals. If someone is going to help you achieve a set of ends in a meaningful way then that person should be embraced.

    • @joshuamarx8209
      @joshuamarx8209 4 роки тому

      @@butterflyblues2917 yes you're right as a last ditch resort, yes vote Warren..
      But remember the key to a Bernie victory is expanding the voter base beyond the unreliable, disengaged centrist one that exists now..

    • @joshuamarx8209
      @joshuamarx8209 4 роки тому

      @@butterflyblues2917 Well funded/publicized AstroTurf movement that is the Right Wing( yes centrist dems are included, like it or not ) has no chance against a reawakened working class. Bernie's mission is about building that and Warren isn't. Warren is last ditch and has no chance going against Trump unless the economy literally crashes.
      Trump was campaigning on Bernie's platform in the Republican Primary fer crissake!!

  • @bhedd6766
    @bhedd6766 5 років тому +3

    lol "turd way"

  • @thejosh0000001
    @thejosh0000001 5 років тому +5

    Wasnt it less than three years ago these same guys were making fun of people claiming Bernie was a spoiler for Clinton, and amber went on a passionate rant about how in primaries you should vote for who you want and only worry about the general after?

    • @thejosh0000001
      @thejosh0000001 5 років тому +2

      Now they're going to use the same bullshit line about warren with no self awareness. This is a pretty egregious hypocrisy. Sucks because now Ive got to wonder whether these guys are being earnest or just using whatever cheap talking point is convenient, regardless of integrity.

    • @cartercartercartercar
      @cartercartercartercar 5 років тому +5

      warren is a dishonest shill for friendly fascism. she does not care about the people. none of these people can even pretend well to care about the issues of the working class except for bernie

  • @Dualhammers
    @Dualhammers 3 роки тому +1

    Always trust Matt and Amber

  • @jamiemoffa2919
    @jamiemoffa2919 5 років тому +2

    I'm interested to see what Chapo thinks of Warren's health care plan she released last week.

    • @friendofriendless
      @friendofriendless 5 років тому +1

      They haven’t said anything in the latest episode, but that probably because it was recorded before she released it, if I had to guess they would say, fairly I think, that if was more of a priority for her she would have had something sooner than now

    • @jasonblahafitness6349
      @jasonblahafitness6349 5 років тому +1

      Just hot air outta her ass. Nothing upon nothing.

    • @jamiemoffa2919
      @jamiemoffa2919 5 років тому

      @@friendofriendless sure, but i think it would be useful to discuss the plan and compare/contrast it with Bernies, rather than dismissing it out of hand.

    • @friendofriendless
      @friendofriendless 5 років тому

      I don’t disagree with you but this episode came out back in June or July before the plan was released, they probably reading it now and trying to get Tim Faust back on to put it in context

    • @jamiemoffa2919
      @jamiemoffa2919 5 років тому

      @@friendofriendless oh, yeah, i wasn't criticizing them for not having done it yet. Just saying that id like them to in the future and i will definitely give that episode a listen if/when they do

  • @MJFAN666
    @MJFAN666 5 років тому +1

    Greviously concerning.

  • @madmor6087
    @madmor6087 5 років тому +9

    "its a blip" said Amber, being completely wrong once again

    • @kingofthenoobs
      @kingofthenoobs 4 роки тому +3

      Go on...

    • @Snake8jake
      @Snake8jake 4 роки тому +3

      @@kingofthenoobs "said Amber, being completely wrong once again" said M.S. being completely wrong once again

  • @JStack
    @JStack 3 роки тому +1

    “I think we have to watch out for Biden.” - The Prophet Amber 1 BBE (Before Biden Era)

  • @arpogen
    @arpogen 5 років тому +9

    @Chapo Trap House, you'd get a lot more followers if you released all your episodes on youtube.

    • @zackamania6534
      @zackamania6534 5 років тому +1

      Then the so-called “socialists” couldn’t bilk you other so-called socialists out of a few hundred thousand each year!

    • @gabgames26
      @gabgames26 5 років тому +5

      Full episodes are on SoundCloud and Spotify

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum 4 роки тому +3

    Amber was right as usual. Eat it up haters.

  • @blackspring3207
    @blackspring3207 5 років тому +3

    Oh man election coverage is when Chapo is at its worst. No ideas, grit, initiative, vision.

  • @chrisdray5325
    @chrisdray5325 2 роки тому

    secha potra phou

  • @BadBigBody
    @BadBigBody 5 років тому +2

    Warren does not have a “very small” amount of support, this woman doesn’t know what she’s talking about

  • @Poornoobtroll
    @Poornoobtroll 3 роки тому

    :(

  • @MatthisMatthisMatthis
    @MatthisMatthisMatthis 5 років тому +1

    Chapo honda add.

  • @Talkinknicks
    @Talkinknicks 5 років тому

    Warren Video chatting:
    “ Hey, hold on , Im gonna grab a beer “ ......such a dork

  • @discogodfather22
    @discogodfather22 5 років тому +1

    If Warren disappeared tomorrow Bernie would be leading. She's a second grade teacher.

  • @IronJohn755
    @IronJohn755 5 років тому

    Bernie is the only "constituency" candidate, but his constituency is apparently less than 20% of the primary electorate. So is Warren spoiling him or is he spoiling Warren? Any candidate is trying to stitch together a plurality of voters based on policies and personality. FDR got elected 4x not because his program was ideologically pure, but because it was good enough and delivered for enough key groups (ie industrial workers, farmers, homeowners the elderly) to win. Bernie's "purity" is polarizing - I like him on some issues, and think he's way over the line on others. Warren is the goldilocks candidate - not too hot, not too cold.

    • @joshuamarx8209
      @joshuamarx8209 4 роки тому

      That's because you're a moderate reactionary and don't understand materialist analysis and critique..

    • @IronJohn755
      @IronJohn755 4 роки тому

      @@joshuamarx8209 That's great Josh, thanks. Why don't you just get all 100-odd million American voters together at whatever overpriced Marxist college you attended, and you can enlighten us all.

    • @joshuamarx8209
      @joshuamarx8209 4 роки тому

      @@IronJohn755 you deny that education in the West is comically idealistic in its basis, thus reflexively leads to a reactionary brain worms epidemic unmatched in world history ? Dullard!!!

    • @IronJohn755
      @IronJohn755 4 роки тому

      @@joshuamarx8209 Is this an Ignatius J. Reilly-style character you're working on?

    • @joshuamarx8209
      @joshuamarx8209 4 роки тому

      @@IronJohn755 Stop making the world sound so much cooler than it is, Lib...

  • @arlostein1000
    @arlostein1000 5 років тому +1

    Old Pocahontas Warren here hitting the peace pipe. Yikes

    • @butterflyblues2917
      @butterflyblues2917 5 років тому +6

      You realize that when you try to attack someone with racism you just make yourself look bad, right?

    • @arlostein1000
      @arlostein1000 5 років тому +3

      Butterfly Blues you realise that Warren was doing Native American blackface just to increase her chances of getting into a historically racist university. Get fucked

    • @Cussy69_420
      @Cussy69_420 Рік тому

      ​@@butterflyblues2917racism?

  • @inurokuwarz
    @inurokuwarz 5 років тому

    Alpo Chop House more like

  • @Janon48
    @Janon48 5 років тому

    How dare people not support an 80 year old who just had a heart attack for the most powerful role in American politics

    • @buzzybeetle95
      @buzzybeetle95 5 років тому +22

      Biden's eye exploded on stage and his brain is constantly melting with every word he says. So is Trump's. Bernie made a very quick recovery and he's clearly doing well now. Also he knows how to talk and debate unlike any of these other shitheads.

    • @Janon48
      @Janon48 5 років тому

      Sean B Bernie and Biden are both old as fuck and would drop out if they really gave a fuck about the responsibilities of the office. We’ve had presidents that were in the 40’s and 50’s who could barely handle it. Obama and Bush Jr. both aged like twenty years.

    • @RawMaterialENT
      @RawMaterialENT 5 років тому +12

      he's the only one who is genuine, some people don't treat politics like american idol, and realize the systemic issues destroying the human race

    • @jet-fury
      @jet-fury 5 років тому +12

      Bernie could pass the day he was inaugurated and I'd still vote for him. His successor would undoubtedly be better than any of the other clowns

    • @Janon48
      @Janon48 5 років тому

      RawMaterialENT if he’s so smart hen why didn’t he do shit for the past 30 years he was in Congress? Warren accomplished more her first two years in office than Bernie’s whole career