A secret electric scooter crackdown is happening RIGHT NOW!
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2021
- An electric rides clampdown has started. With the London e-scooter rental trials commencing June 6th, privately owned electric personal vehicles are being seized. After watching the events unfold online, Eilis reached out to Riccardo (Carve electric UK) and Rob (Rideables) to find out what exactly is going on.
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No wonder knife crime is so high, all the cops are busy catching scooter riders 🤔
The cops need something to do now that policing covid regulations is virtually over!
design don't worry we will be in lockdown in a weeks time again the delta variant has hit 1.4 . It's like a bad dream
The whole thing is covert not covid.
You can be fined for driving a scooter. All their interested in is revenue. Knife criminals have to be jailed.......that costs them money. Their not interested in that. This whole c@vid thing is man made and about control and money nothing else!
@@alexandermathie66 correct correct correct.
Let's face it, the UK government doesn't want people to travel for free without effort, they want to keep taxing your fuel or charging ridiculous prices for public transport especially train services. There are responsible people out there and I'm one of them. Why not allow us to tax, insure and MOT our e-scooters because if the price is reasonable I wouldn't hesitate.
Yep, another reason just to squeeze more money from the public.
why have a electric scooter taxed?, it has two wheels it dose not go faster the 15mph, it’s in the same category as a bicycle, and by the way cyclists over take me, the fact that the government has not allowed electric scooter on the road not even till this day and they have been on the road for a few years make you desperate “ok tax me so i can be on the road” you should not fall in to a desperate mind set, the government has plenty of time to allow scooter on the road and yet nothing has been done but they are hard at work giving fines.
That's the first MISTAKE to make to allow them to tax and regulate! Once the FAT-Cats who are Psychopaths get their way there is no end to what they want to
control he PEASANTS! The only end is a revolution to eliminate these idiots that have put themselves above GOD and freedom to travel.
@@ele_112 No need for road fund licence just Insurance so if you cause damage to other insured drivers we can claim of your Insurance instead of paying for panel damage to our cars ourselves or if you injure a pedestrian you can pay the hospital bill for them and pay their wages while off recovering
@@barbaraneville5036 i get what your saying about just “in case”, bicycles never had insurance, why is this so special electric scooters considered? for insurance, my scooter runs at 15mph bicycles over take me, and i’m not saying about electric bicycles which go faster, to me sounds like the electric scooter community is desperate( please take my money so i can ride on the street), about the electric bicycle community i had not seen people the same signs of desperation.
It's illegal unless you pay to use theirs.
We do pay to use them…. The electric to charge them
I think it’s because some scooters can be modified to go faster than they normally would, renting them makes this concept harder or nearly impossible to do
@@OneTwoFive0 and the hire ones can’t ? 😂there’s videos on how to hack them
@@OneTwoFive0 if they cared about that they'd only stop fast scooters and not slow ones
So sad..
It's very sad. It's a positive mode of transport, greener, cheaper and creating less cars on the road. Plus easy to store!
You really believe they care about the government? Lol its all about money.
Thrown all over the pavements for people to trip over.
@@physiocrat7143 another whining brit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@grandcalifornia8410 Great comment but wrong on all three counts.
@@physiocrat7143 ok boomer 😶🌫️
Paint your scooter the same colour as the hire ones. They'll never know.
You would have to put the word *Ginger* down each side of the stem here.
@JM #7 RACING That Is the whole Point though.
@JM #7 RACING I don't believe there are laws on what colour you can paint your scooter. But it is less likely you catch the attention of the goose stepping pricks spoiling everyone's fun.
The companies would love you doing that, free advertisement.
@@Steve-yl6wv You'd be quick to call on the help of those 'goose stepping pricks' if you needed them wouldn't you kid?
UK is such a laugh for the Europe regarding electric scooters. What a such a muppets you have in government.
Muppets are everywhere in UK unfortunately 😕
UK gov is so useless
Regarding scooters, yes pathetic.
Yep our government is absolute shite and no one can change my mind
The power of the people can dethrone government.
Some do not understand the power of unity
Electoheads... its time...organise a meet in Hyde Park..
Invite the press...its time to show the Government to take us PLEV riders seriously.
I’m down
Fr make it happen
I fucking agree they taking the piss
Just let me know the date
We can combine our batteries and power london for 4 and a half minutes 😀
No point buying a 15mph scooter, might aswell get 60mph, same crime just less chance of getting caught
2000w Evo Motion not catching me 🤫
😂😂😂😂😂so true
😂
Yup. Agree.
2400 Watts is needed to push you out of difficulties.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy" Please look it up. It all makes sense.
Where is that quote from?
They deleted it 😂 You can only find the article on Reuters now or so. They prob realized it was all too obvious lol. But I mean the World Economic Forum themselves posted a video of the same (now deleted and replaced with some climate apocalypse collage), so… not exactly a conspiracy at this point.
World Economic Forum - they want you plugged in to their system and to be a part of it you need to get your yearly sterilizing covid jabs. Slave planet. One world government. One world religion. One world language. Depopulation. It's all on the Georgia guidstones
Fuck that we must resist
Rollerblade Inline Skates could be the answers.
Typical British government if somethings popular it must be stopped 🤬
It must be stopped because they are dangerous they do 40mph, have no insurance and are dangerous to themselves and other road users.
@@gerardburton1081 there are only very few that do higher than even 15mph. The scooters that can do higher than 15, cost 1k plus
@@khaotickb2187 not all of them do 40mph but one day several months ago one did. I have heard that one was seen doing 50mph
@@gerardburton1081 Sounds like a push bike, some electric bikes are just as fast and I can get my peddle bike up to 25 on a flat and 40 easy downhill.
@@Scottietada yeah on a flat its fairly easy to push 20mph on a pedal bike, especially with wheels bigger than 26 inch
Bruh, why can't we just be left alone. No matter where, ppl just can't live and make their own decisions. The powers that be always feel the need to exercise power/rule, when most ppl only really ride because everything else is expensive. Stop taking away, and regulating our rights/freedom.
Bloodsuckers have to suck blood.....its what parasites do! They cant work for themselves like us.
So, you want the right or the freedom to do something that's illegal?
In Sweden they've kept it fairly simple. As long as the scooter rides at fastetst 20km/h and a power at 250W it counts as a normal bike while if it doesn't reach any of those it counts as a electric moped and then there's other requirements for reflexes, lights and brakes.
What about ebikes?
The same policy goes for all,
Scooters, e-bikers,sagways and so on..above 20 mph on sidewalks
Will be fined.
I live in Norway.
@@ordemeprogresso727 20mph or 20kmh?
Very reasonable rules
Everyone should just boycott these rental scooters. Government taking the piss again out of us 🙄
Then they would conclude that people don't want scooters and so would be less inclined to make them legal. The rental ones are for a trial to gather data with a view to what needs to be done to legalise scooters.
@@StevenCowell they will never legalise them 😂
@@HotChoccyWoccyYT they will have to do something. Either legalise or have a very strict clampdown. It depends which is going to be easiest for them.
@Name not supplied include yourself 😉👍
I am selling my e-scooter now and have bought an e-bike instead. Don't want the points on the licence. Its not worth it. By the time they make it legal police would probably start fining in my area. Can't do the trial even if you want because my borough doesn't do it. A lot of idiots here too.
Didn't the cops already have a crackdown a while ago, now they know that these PLEV's will be made legal next year they having another crackdown to cash in on the fines before they miss out next year.
100%
No. First privately owned scooters are not being made legal next year. Second the reason for the crackdown is to stop u using yr own scooter and force u to use a rental scooter. Big business is pushing the agenda follow the money
@@Spitfire67UK really that's what you think... When these were bought on to the market they were not legal to ride on the public highway, the road traffic act defined what is legal. Riding a vehicle without insurance is an offence and should be punished. One day these are likely to be legal but until then obey the rules. The majority of the riders i see are dangerous riding the wrong side of the road, on the pavement, through parks until they are legal and responsibility ridden they should not be anywhere near the public, if you wanta green way to get around ride a bike.
@@richardhann253 yes really that’s what I think it’s what a lot of people think. Your reply has nothing to do with should they be privately owned or rented. From reading yr comment I guess yr not fussed because u don’t want them period. Scooters are currently being trialed in my town. So it is legal to use them here. But only on roads and cycle paths of course. My point is why should I have to pay big business £35 a month for ever to hire a scooter when I could buy my own? How would car owners feel if the government announced from July can only drive hire cars? The only reason this decision is being taken is big business has lobbied the government and no doubt greased a few palms, or should that be bought a few rolls of wallpaper
@@Spitfire67UK my point is that they are not as yet legal, imo they shouldn't even be in shops until they are, I have no problem with them once they are legal but until then they should not be on the road. The users are often unlicensed, uninsured and have no apparent road sense, they are a motor vehicle and as such are subject to the laws that govern motor vehicles and as they do not meet the necessary standards for a road legal vehicle then they should not be allowed on the road. The law already supports the use of bikes, mopeds, motorbikes, cars, vans, lorries.
Stop feeling hard done by because you choose an illegal form of transport and then complain that the police are enforcing against you. It would be the same if someone decided to drive an f1 car down the road.
Police should be cracking down on knife crime not this nonsense.
Funny because eScooters have been used in street robberies, knife crimes and ride by shootings.
:)
Happy now?
@S NO, just more likely to ABUSE a service / system / device well anything, just wait until eScooter theft becomes a common thing....
Offences are being committed, so the police are doing their job. Don't make it easy by blatantly using an unregistered, untaxed and uninsured motor vehicle on the roads and pavements.....
Crime is not profitable as it makes them no money, people need to wake up to how this system works, if there is no injured party there is no crime.
@@thepvporg why’re you chatting shit💀
My scooter can do 39mph, the police have tried stopping me twice in the last 2 weeks.. With no luck yet! ;)
OMG 🤣
Wow youre such a badass man
You're the reason the police are cracking down on scooters in the first place...
@@Dragunovl33t bet you’re fun at parties. I hate how virtuous the internet has made people nobody gives a fuck mate theres kids starving everyday all over the world get a fucking grip
My kids dont starve cause i actually give a fuck about someone
Ok to hire one ! but not to privately own one or you get nicked ! Welcome to the UK in 2021 !
You can own as many as you want. It's an offence to use them on public roads.
UK is a laughing stock! A little bit of snow and the whole country grinds to a halt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👋
The hired ones are part of a temporary trial period. Those are the only ones which can be legally used.
It's pretty sad when you can't even ride a 15mph scooter on the road or bike paths! Do those cops standing around confiscated scooters realize that other cops all over the world who confiscate weapons and drug hauls are LAUGHING at them? haha
ROTFL
Why can't you just get a bicycle, and be perfectly legal?
Imagine how much nicer the city would be the same effort was spent on encouraging people out of fossil vehicles and into micro & mini EVs.
Exactly!
I know people might actually be happy for a change
As I understand it, no new ICE vehicles can be sold in UK after 2030. If that's true, then they should be working on EV infrastructures now.
Imagine how much nicer it would be if they just bought a bicycle, instead of riding these pain inn the arse things on the pavements....
We should all put a petition together. The viewers from this 1 video alone could make a change for the better. Come On People!!
Bet
So, you want to change the law specifically to allow you to do something the law says you shouldn't? Bank robbers and rapists wouldn't mind that either....
that's how it goes. when it becomes fun, cheap and popular/viral, take it away or $$ from it.
Exactly!!! Same has happened or is happening to my beloved hobby of flying RC planes and quadcopter's
The UK is always behind when it comes to sensible laws. Whether that be making canibus legal or electric devices such as scooters it's the same nonsence where where people are fined for the most ridiculous supposed crime.
Yep it sucks living here. It's a cash cow eating it's self
Weed should be illegal, along with those damned pain in the bum scooters. Scooters are like cockroaches, they need to be crushed out of existence.
@@wallstreetbetscom8821 I assume you want cigarettes and alcohol banned as well?
@@wallstreetbetscom8821 serious question, do you have even a mild connection with religion? Which ever one bet the old text's are written on canbis paper. Did you also come to this opinion via knowledge of the paper industry,fuel tycoons and land developers paying the government's to make it so that a cheaper resource that anyone can grow could not be able to. Or did you watch too many news shows and soap operas.
UK is always behind over regulation of the people
what a nanny state we live in - the government is bent on putting stop to any sort of joy
With respect, the Government hasn't crapped on you Bob, it's your lack of understanding of the law which has let you down. They are classed as motor vehicles, and as such the scooter needs to be registered and (road) taxed, with the rider having insurance cover. You also cannot ride on the pavement. Motor vehicles are not permitted to use the pavement. It's simply a case of you not knowing the full extent of the law, as it currently stands. Were you aware it is still illegal to beat or clean a carpet outdoors on a Sunday? That's a very old law ( from the 1700's) which is *still* on the statute book.......
@@Brian-om2hh I understand the law and I can criticize the hypocrisy with emissions, car deaths, congestion etc - I understand how the law creeps into every thing it can make money from
The karens are runing the government
thats why we dont like current government do we...
I've been saying it for years uk is a boring out of date out touch country
Scooters are a great way of transport as a anxiety sufferer they help me greatly its a comfort kinda thing
I followed one of these things along a town street a few weeks back, and it was swerving *all* over place due to it's tiny wheels and pi$$ poor directional control. I felt a great deal of anxiety being stuck behind it.... They should be banned. They aren't safe to be used on public roads. Buy a bicycle.
Max my scooter goes is around 19mph and there's still cyclists overtaking me at that speed!
A good club cyclist Could easily exceed 20 mile an hour plus professionals there 30 at least
I know right it gets me mad! How df is 20mph fast 25mph is something 😆
Cos cycling is a sport, require time, effort and dedication, not like these 2 wheels weapons
@@feeham BUT E SCOOTER IS A SPORT, IT REALESE STRESS!!! and bikes are confusing always turning into me like idiots! Then when I punch up someone and run bear ppl call feds tf.
@@feeham the exercise in e Scooter riding is straining your leg muscles making them strong just like a bike does only you're putting all your body weight on it
As somebody who might or might not ride a scooter in uk, the biggest problem i see is not only archaic laws, but terrible infrastructure for both cyclist and pev users. All this talking about environment, but I dont see bike lanes being build anywhere nearby.
Move to Brighton. They're bloody everywhere...and bus lanes.
they're scared in the future that no one will used public transportation or using cars for paying taxes and insurance hahahaha
I guess capitalism is a bad thing after all
Precisely
@@Oldheadontheblock it's not capitalism, it's something entirely different. Wake up.
Would you use a scooter when it's raining?
Right! Self-independence is too free and the U.K. Government WON'T HAVE IT!! For them too! They will suffer too! Because what goes around,comes around! "Even for Clowns!"
In Paris it's the opposite, and great fun ; poss tu use bike lanes, bus lanes, main urban road ; no need for an insurrance since most of the time it's covered BY YOUR HOUSE INSURANCE. and tons and tons of bie lanes opened the last 12 months or so. sometimes the whole street is dedicaded to this "mobilité douce" (soft/sweet mobility). Rue de Rivoli for instance. Tons of fun, way faster then a bus, no insurance since most of us are already covered !
Yeah but their government is run by people for the people, not a bunch of elite upper class toffs who ain't got a clue and really done care about anything else but their balance sheets
It's lovely when u re government of so called pioneers of culture,but simply you can't really listen to your own folk,just car industry owners because they provide you shekles, unfortunately new definition of low
Same in milan.
@@kdoc82 I still can't get over the you can rent, but not own. Imagine I'd they did that with cars.
Yes but that is France. Nuff said
I had no idea this was going on in the U.K. I knew about the issues in New York. Seems the city rentals don't want the 'competition' of ownership. Using individuals that don't practice best safety while riding is obviously an escape goat for the seizures of e-scooters.
I have an ebike and it’s restricted to 15.5mph and it stops assistance at 15.5mph, I can dial in how much assistance I would like and on turbo setting the bike is quick, however the story continues as I’m now at 15.5mph with very little effort and that allows me to pedal without assistance up speeds greater than 15.5mph as the motor has de-clutched and is a normal bike, so I’m travelling along above 15.5mph using my own steam only to be passed by a group of Tour de France fans on their super quick steeds, not one bell ring between them may I add as it gives me a start let alone the poor pedestrians who have to share a path. My point is we ride bicycles quicker and more recklessly than the slower scooter but the scooter is penalised? Why? I don’t understand why the government hasn’t tackled this issue into a fantastic mobility solution. My rant is over. Great production by the way 👍
This sums it all up very well mate. Bicycles are illegal to ride on pavements too technically. Think anyone getting stopped for that, not a chance. Most of our kids would have criminal records if they enforced that one! 🤦🏽
@@Brian-om2hh hence the do what they want attitude to lots of things 🤷♀️
Bicycles have 26 inch wheels not bloody trolley wheels. And your centre of gravity is so much better placed. It's vastly more under control than those ridiculous nose breakers.
@@bluebellhill foldable electric bikes like a Brompton have 16 inch wheels and no suspension some scooters have 10-12 inch wheels with suspension 🤷♀️ bikes get enough crap etc from drivers and scooters will be the same so going to be pretty annoying and hypocritical if bike lovers get on scooter riders cases! Let’s face it give a high end supercar or motorbike to an idiot and it’s dangerous on perfect roads
It’s not about speed. An ebike is basically a bicycle which gets some assistance from an electric motor. The maximum size and power of the motor is defined and has to cut out when the speed exceeds 15.5 miles per hour.
An electric scooter has no legal specification in U.K. law. It’s easy to say we should make them legal but what exactly is an electric scooter? They are more like cars than bicycles. The scooters going around may be limited to 15.5 miles an hour but what if someone sells one that goes 20, 30,40 or 100 miles per hour, should those be legal? What about if someone puts a seat on or has a foot throttle rather than a hand throttle. What about if they make one big enough for two people to stand side by side . At what point does the scooter become a motorbike or a small car?
Then there is the safety aspect, how many accidents are too many, are our potholed roads safe for small wheeled machines. If the government makes them legal are they taking responsibility for their safety? Do they need insurance ? What about helmets , elbow and knee pads?
Already there are reports of people being killed by electric scooters and they are not legal yet. Is that going to get worse if they are legalised? Are people going to accept the consequences ?
It’s not a simple matter of saying yer go on make electric scooters legal because we allow electric bikes.
Free men don't ask the Government for permision.
So true
"they are just following orders" why does that sound familiar
So so true.
So said the nazis working concentration camps.
Do not compare the police (that are seizing scooters) to Nazis... That's like comparing a waiter to a Nazi while taking your order in a restaurant.
Had my e-scooter seized by police on Friday evening at approx 6pm coming home from work in Chelsea area. Unmarked police car pulled me over, 3 officers inside were polite and fortunately they didn't fine me/give me points, though they said that they had to confiscate the scooter. (It was only a Bird Air so not too expensive)
They said that they are doing a massive crackdown over the next months - no more giving people "warnings". They told me that on that evening alone there were 9 unmarked police cars in the area on the lookout for poor e-scooter riders like us! Going to be lots of heightened activity over the coming months :( Scooters need to be made legal asap!
(Originally posted this on another video on this channel but wanted more people to be aware!)
Can you get your scooter back by paying a fine, or do they seize it indefinitely (forever)?
The government could make a e scooter license that we have to abide by the rules or get fines and points or lose the licence. Everyone is happy because we can ride our scooters and the government get money from the fines and licenses. It's a great little money earner after the covid crap Plus we cut down emissions. I'm stunned how backwards our country has become 😡😡
It would be another category added to the 4 categories of motorcycle licences that currently exist or maybe in category AM for 50cc
@@A_S_100 Agreed. And a safe upper speed / power limit on scooters on the roads would then be something like 25mph (or 30) combined with 750W or 1000W. It's not hard to do, and could easily be combined with a basic insurance requirement which should not be that expensive.
The politicians, commissioners and mayors need their heads knocked together. We need laws to make all EVs legal with no extra restrictions than other road users. Safety is the user's responsibility.
Cars were illegal once. Needed man waving red flag walking in front. They became legal when people ignored the silly laws and new ones were written instead.
Get a 40mph ebike if police stop you on foot. Just drive past.
@Sebastian Weetabix you watch too many movies.
That's why I carry a knife - to stab any escooter nonces who come near mee.
The law just needs to catch up to me.
@Sebastian Weetabix they're robberies m8 and that's why they're getting knocked off, they can't use lethal force just because your ebike is a bit too fast lol
@Sebastian Weetabix his fault for being in the blind spot, but I don't get what point you're trying to make bc this is not relevant
Usually when this happens its because the gov. Or mayor made a deal to put rental scooters that people would have to rent. But why should u rent if you have your own personal scooter 🤔 thats where the police comes in.
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, #ACAB!
In Belgium it's covered by the Family insurance; which is the same insurance that covers damages to third parties for you and your family. Damages such as breaking a glass window of your neighbor with a football, or colliding with a parked car on your bike. Typically small damages. It also covers electric scooters, hoverboards, mono wheels, etc.. even drones up to 1kg.
So when you kill someones child then your Family insurance covers this?
@@megapangolin1093 yes. Though, it also depends who was at fault. If you cause an accident where someone dies and you're in the wrong, you'll be charged with unvoluntary manslaughter which could result in heavy fines and prison time. It's the same if you were to cause an accident with your car and some dies... But yes, the insurance will cover damages to the victim or next to kin in case of death.
How much do you pay for those insurances?
I'm 48 and I started using an E-Scooter last summer- I've got quite into it, Upgrading my cheap scooter with suspension, better lights Etc. It's been a good positive hobby for me and It's been good for my mental and physical health too. I've had 1 very close shave when someone thought it was more important to stare at a car crash(Aka "rubbernecking") instead of controlling the car and stopping at the red light's they drove through and into me on a busy crossing that had the green light(man) and it was busy - with parents pushing prams and with children! luckily she saw me at about 15ish metres away, her car had good brakes and I was able to jump off out of the way as she hit the scooter at about 5ish mph- resulting in mild damage with a slightly bent handlebar stem, but If one of those children had been first to run across then I would dread to predict the consequences- And she was so delirious to what she had done she actually started shouting at me as though I was in the wrong until everyone else on the crossing shouted back at her -and then when I dusted myself off picked up the scooter she just drove straight off!
I have not had any problems with the police here in Bradford so far- I guess It'd be a different matter if I was not wearing a helmet and riding in a dangerous way risking harm to myself and others, I do ride on the path or in pedestrianised areas sometimes but I do slow right down and always make sure those that have not seen me know I'm there and give way to everything else but only because it's (usually)safer than being on the roads in some parts of Bradford and the local police understand that and the fact they have bigger problems on the roads to deal with. ATB.
Yesterday, 15th June, I was finally unable to avoid getting into one of the Police traps, just under the Embankment Bridge in London. Got called over, along with other two scooters and one electric longboard. Got a nice officer though, who gave me a nice £50 ticket for riding on the bike lane. Now I'm riding the expensive TFL train from zone 5 to 1 until my e-bike arrives. I am feeling the three ruptures from my budget coming together. Catch is: I was civilised and honest with the officer and there is a chance the fine will turn up to be just a first offence warning. He said he knows the law is absurd and old and that we need to catch up (to the rest of the Earth, I might add). Also said we have to wait another year for the legalisation, so I don't have to get rid of my beautiful Ninebot Max just yet. After he let me go, I signalled other scooters about the blockade under the bridge but they chose to be brave instead. When the e-bike will arrive, both my credit card and my mind will be at peace.
Unfortunately I Got into the trap too near the Big Ben, after using it for 3 years. The law as well as the public e scooter are so lame. The whole reason why this scooter is so popular because London transportation is way too expensive! It takes me one hour to work taking tube, but only 30 mins with the scooter! News about Drink, erratic users are all over the news but the truth is majority of the users are civilised working people trying to get to work!!!
@@yl5486 That is so true. The cop who captured the criminal scum that was I actually told me that he knows I'm not doing anything wrong, just commuting to work. But he had to do his job...
@@oedhinn23 the police I talked to was very nice just doing his job. He didn’t sound like he was convinced by the idea too. How sad. I am forever boycotting the e scooter in the city
@@oedhinn23 like the Nazis
It’s because they cant tax you for moving
You can't be prosecuted for not having tax insurance and MOT on a scooter
You would be in court for not having something that doesn't exist and is not obtainable 🙄
Good one to remember!
So knife crime is less of a concern than Eacooters and this what we are paying for in our tax.
Mind you some people will lose their job once they get points so more on the unemployment list.
Complete madness but to be expected.
When the met go after knife crime they get called racist, as London is overrun with lefty crackpots it’s not worth the hassle for them Khan likes crime high and Londoners vote for him no matter how bad London gets!
@@TheJbsportstech No let's get this right.
The police get called racist because they adopt a racist policy not because they go after knife crime.
It's simple really, an institutional racist is someone who uses their position to attempt to further their agenda, in this case we are talking about the police.
It's a tough job, but treat everyone exactly the same and they will get respect, target people just because of their skin tone or their hair type and that respect is quickly lost.
If you see two people riding a scooter one is black or brown the other is white, don't just target the black or brown people, take them all down or leave them all alone.
London does not like crime but when you have stupid laws, such as criminalising marijuana and turning people into criminals just because they ride an Escooter then you clearly should expect some serious push back from the people.
It's not a racial thing and it's not a criminal thing it's simply a people thing, Escooters are a fantastic form of transport, cheap easy to maintain and reasonably priced to buy.
They have been around for over 100 years, and were predicted to be on the roads way back in the fifties taking over from the car due to high traffic problems, yet here we are 2021 and you are classed as a criminal just for riding an escooter.
it's plain stupidity gone mad.
We need them legal! Without having to pay insurance or being stopped or anything ...... simple ! I suppose inappropriate use should have a fine but not have them taken off ! ..... I go to see my grandma . To take care of her when mom is at work for her medicines. Rather then waiting on a bus which takes and hour and 45 min. I jump on my bike and get there in 25 minutes . Skipping traffic
It's like everytime us people find something fun for us the government is like 'hold on. Who said that you can have fun?' AND THATS BULLSHIT
I don’t see why escooters should have to be insured, ebikes aren’t
good point. But not being insured does not mean that you can cause damage with out putting it right. Third party insurance for a bicycle or ebike would be cheap. Often the reason cyclist don't have insurance is because it is hard to find third party insurance, it is generally bundled in with theft insurance and that puts the premium up considerably as bikes are easy to steal and hard to secure.
@@StevenCowell I’m aware lol
Legal e bikes are only power assisted. If you stop pedalling the motor cuts out. Do this with an e scooter and you've just got a push scooter...which are also legal and don't require insurance. If its a mechanically powered vehicle on the road you should have insurance. For other people's benefit if not your own.
@@jasoncolman8022 escooter is so small and compact it cant even make a dent to car. Bicycle are even bigger in size and can actually dent a car in crash. but bicycle dont need insurance...what the point of this insurance thing. bullshit
@@jasoncolman8022 most escooters are slower than bikes
Glad I live in free America, British should just blow by the “Bobby’s” and not fold to unjust laws.Update: in some cities across America, they are banning scooters, Welcome to free America . ( liberal city/states).
I remember a time when I was free. Now they want to charge you for walking along the pavements and if you stop to look in a shop window you have to pay a parking charge. My public liability insurance currently has 20% VAT + 12% IP TAX. Happy days.? In another 50 years ?
Great video, but then again I'm a tad biased 😉. Keep up the great work! 👍🙏
I hope to be on Electroheads one day...
*Disappointin to see a new push to remove PEV.* With the London trials startin, seems they are gettin way more strict about private owners ridin. Not lookin good.
Cos they want the trials to make money
@@manlykscorpa Yes, correct. They will consider private owners more once they figure out how to make money from that too
Government will never allow private scooters they'll only let their rich mates rent out crap scooters sorry just won't happen as with any politician it's all hype regards trials
@@stevewalsh-balshaw1727 if they won't allow private ownership then I guess people will have to be pirate owners 😂
@@eBoard3R I agree I'm 57 but think there great I get fed up of politicians telling folk how to live their lives of course you have to take care using them but let people have them if they want
Absolutely pathetic, isn’t it. All about money making so that Boris’s ex handler and the Director of Deliveroo can monopolise on rental scooters!
Rental riders smash the scooters about, go full speed everywhere and dump them as obstructions to others. They never wear helmets and pads/gloves. And they start off for the first time in busy city centres - no wonder they all ride on the pavements!
Private owners have to ride at full speed just to reduce the chance of getting caught by cops (who should be catching criminals). Private riders have the wrong mentality because they’re always on the lookout for cops, which reduces their concentration. It’s just like when Gatso speed cameras came out - car drivers were paranoid and looking out for them, then slamming on the brakes at the last second, causing crashes. Gatso’s were grey and hidden until it was demanded that they be made bright yellow.
LEGALISE THEM and there won’t be any issues. You don’t need 32 trials to collate data - especially when the rest of the world already has them! Legalise them and let people have their own liability insurances.
I'm 53, love my scooter bought for me by my daughter, sad its not legal, so much red tape 🙄 even looking up private roads is like looking for contents of the Queens diary, 😁
Get 2 put seat on nw it a mobility scooter lol
@@realeyesrealiserealliesful2957 🤣🤣
As a pedestrian If I am knocked over and injured on a path Can I claim damages and compensation for loss of income from a Scooter riders Insurance ?
No reply from the scootering fraternity then. Pedestrians don't count. How dare you walk on the pavement? It's for scooters bikes and car-parking.
@@petelamb1493 You could be right there Until they can get at least third party insurance They should stick to the Law. on Private property only Dodging them whilst on the path is tricky and when they are on the road some are worse driving down the middle of the road then of course straight across on the Zebra crossings without looking not realizing that Zebra crossings are for pedestrians only they need to carry their scooter or at least dismount At least the Police around here have now started explaining the road traffic act to them Their argument that they are electric vehicles is valid But my Hybrid electric car needs Insurance So do they IMHO
Luckily I don't live in England, but I never ride on the pavement. If I have to, I just walk with the pedestrians, my escooter just next to me. Not a big deal, everybody can walk. But thanks to my escooter I can ride around Warsaw for about 50 kms every day, there are a lot of bicycle lanes but not everywhere. I love my freedom but on the pavement I just walk.
I wish the law was changed so private scooters are legal, but right now they are illegal to ride on the road or pavement. So you can't really be surprised if u get nicked for riding one. Just get an ebike until the law is changed, that's what I've done.
Problem is they aren’t as portable and they are more expensive
@@e-scooterguy yeah I know, it is what it is for now though. I don't get why the people on this channel act so hard done by and shocked that they're being confiscated or fined. I use the rental ones all the time and I wish they would hurry and change the law.
I'm too used to my 30 mph beast. 15 is like walking speed. Plus they fit pretty much anywhere. Mopeds and faster e-bikes are pretty much obsolete with their size and weight. But can only do this in small towns. You'd certainly get nicked in London with that 😝
Thank you ever so much!! You are really appreciated for your reviews and support of e bicycles!!!
Was driving on the side of the road in Liverpool, it was late, drunk drivers car was in the middle of the road police was surrounding the area, me and my mate was driving slow (walking speed) past the accident and the police told us to stop and fined us 300 and took the scooters, no warning was given out.
It’s the law, what do you expect them to do? Break it like you do? 🤷♂️
Next time when there’s elections, vote.
@@globalist1990 listen lad no ones breaking no fucking laws , they shoulda at least gave me a warning and I’m not voting for shit in this socialist country no freedom in the UK 👎🏾 the yanks got it right over there!
@@ashak2656 Not quite sure how you come to the conclusion that this country is socialist after having a hard right wing Tory government for the last 11 years. Perhaps it is them you should be blaming.
@@Brian-om2hh My scooter had lights on in the front and back , I was on the (pavement,sidewalk) when I was riding at walking speed past the police who had the area of the drunk driver surrounded. Then I got robbed.
@@ashak2656 sorry to hear, I know it’s a bit late but you should of just zipped past bro, dont stop unless you have no escape
My electric scooter was a Birthday (48 years) present from my wife when the lockdown hit and I was at an all time low going from working at 100 mph for the past 26 years to 0 mph overnight due to furlough. Going out on my scooter once a day was a lifeline for me and it kept me sane. Now I’m back off furlough my scooter is gathering dust, not due to I not having time to ride it but the threat of points on my license would see me out of work as I need a clean driving license.
I just can’t take the gamble on getting stopped by one of the police who’s maybe having a bad day.
I’ve always ridden my scooter in a sensible manner and been courteous to traffic and people around me but to see others weaving in and out of traffic and going full speed on the pavements……. It’s wrong to tar every scooter owner with the same brush.
Crux of it is, it’s a form of revenue for the police and we are easy picking.
I’m holding on to my scooter, i love it so I’m hoping someone higher up see’s sense and sorts this out. I’d be more than happy to take out insurance and have a licence plate on my scooter if it means I can get back out on it legally.
Yeah but you shouldn't have to, it's a scooter, so your OK riding a bike it's just madness stupid UK again
I used to be proud to be British now I'm starting to be really ashamed to British we are starting to be know as a stupid country with stupid laws.
It's a shame
It's not the police having a bad if there illegal there illegal end of
@@kymclinton3140 Sold it so you’re right….. end of.
@@kdoc82 Er no, it's a motor vehicle as defined by UK law.... Is anything you disagree with, stupid?
This is what happens when Politicians haven't worked out how to get an under the counter slice of the personal mini EV pie
It's neither the device nor the driver. It's the infrastructure. As long as the infrastructure is primarily for cars, cities will remain dangerous.
Of course they are stopping e-scooters riders because they are loosing money from us because we therefore are not using public transportation. I had my one seized and i had to pay £180 to get it back. This is outrageous... They gave me a leaflet saying that the policeman "might ask you to take your e-scooter HOME"(yeah right!)... 😡🤬
I've got a 60 mph scooter in the US. I ride safe/responsible and slow to a crawl when around pedestrians but if I'm pulled over for nonsense I'm probably just gonna take off and go offroad. Riding is fun, just let me live 😑
@Protista protista Oh no, the law!
I'm over 40 and seeing these so much everywhere, i decided to buy one, not really sure if i was going to enjoy it, since i'm not a teenager anymore. Turns out this is an amazing transport, i use it everyday now, i can take it on the train to another city, hop off the train and explore the city in a fast and very fun way! So glad i'm not in the UK lol :) sorry for you guys...
1 Million scooters in the Uk police steal 10,000 a year 10 years 100,000 . 900,000 scooters remain. Pointless clampdown and useless
Pretty sure it's illegal to treat two groups differently under the law - if a rental scooter is ok, an owned scooter should also be ok, otherwise the law is prejudicial. The fact that one is insured and one is not is also irrelevant as it's the law's fault that the private scooters cannot be insured. As such, perhaps everyone who's had a fine could get together and challenge the law, with the aim of getting both equality under law, but also getting all the fines repaid and all points nullified (unless they were for reckless driving/endangerment or other antisocial riding).
On top of that, why is it legal to ride an ebike, but not a scooter? Again, that could be seen as prejudicial, and as such it may already be illegal to ban one and not the other.
Prejudicial. No difference, I agree.
Rental scooters have insurance. I’m not defending an extremely dumb law, but that’ll be the government‘s justification 😏
@@CaroAbebe Wouldn't be difficult to offer insurance policies to scooter owners.
Actually, if it's not silly money, insurance for my wife's ebike might be a good idea...
If you join cycle uk you get the insurance for a bike as part of the annual membership
So protest and get a petition signed 100,000 signatures, get it done ✅
Sure we've already done it
London is cracking down. Everywhere else is alright still.
True. No crackdowns here.
So is Singapore, it's crazy with all the regulations governing E-Scooters. I was booked and fined $800 for riding my scooter last year and they even confiscated my $1400 scooter. On the one hand, they promote a carbon-free society, but on the other hand, they love the money they make from taxing us with road tax for driving patrol-powered vehicles! Hypocrites!
You are allowed to ride a electric cycle but not allowed a electric scooter. It does not make sense. Cyclists don't have insurance either.
I suggest they do something similar to what they’ve done with drones. You have to do an quick online course, register your device, pay a nominal annual fee and get a registration number that you have to display?
Bicycles need insurance as well, if you ask e scooters to have one?
Totally true. Racing bikes go faster.
We finally found a way to get around which: pollutes a lot less, doesn’t create traffic, prevents the spread of coved during travel time, and most importantly brings some joy riding. And instead of the government working for us, they want to take it all away with ridiculous sanctions (even for 1st offence, about £450 fines + 6 points on the license). Its also sad to see police time being wasted on such idiocies. 4 policemen to catch a couple of scooters, bare in my mind that they can only fit 3 or 4 scooters max in their van. So after they stopped 3 they have to drive all the way back Perivale to drop them off to start again. All this time and police force could be used to survey dangerous areas, help the elderly during this pandemic. It could be used to actually make women feel safe walking home alone, it could help with bikes being stolen, the list goes on. For the sake of public opinion on the government I seriously hope they will legalism them soon, because after handling covid so poorly, bassicly destroying the economy they have some proving to do, this could be the step forward.
Is the amnesty potentially possible for those who got points for no insurance on escooter?
lol this is so crazy, you guys need to go out and protest about it, protest or nothing happens
When do the trials finish? and when will the decision be made does anyone know?
The london trials are "up to" a year long.. so doubtful if we will hear anything before summer 2022 :( source was tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2021/may/tfl-and-london-councils-announce-london-s-e-scooter-trial-will-begin-in-june
My guess, the police will write so many tickets that the government will decide they like the income and keep scooters illegal. Which makes their actions a lie as their reasons won’t be backed by facts. But, if the scootering public can catch the police falsely ticketing with video proof, i’m sure defense lawyers can aid the scooter riding public.
Maybe in 2050, but even that is pushing it
Trials haven't even started here in this County.
It's far more dangerous, demanding and vital for our valiant police officers to target relatively low income scooter riders than it is for them to address the safe and easy rising crime rate. A sense of proportion is called for.
It's purely because the government is trialing scooter hire in big cities like London and they want people putting their money into government coffers rather than owning their own scooter, until they pass a law requiring tax and safety certification, like an MOT for scooters this will carry on. Taxation of the general public is at the forefront of any action taken by Boris and his cronies.
In Germany insurance nameplates for certified scooters and a minimum age of 14 have been implemented. It is only allowed to drive them on the road, no use on sidewalks.
Also a top speed of only 12.5mph, and requires a registration plate as well I believe?
so it's completely fucking pointless then.
f@#k that
my ninebot max was taken away last Tuesday, i had to go all the way to charlton police station to get it back! :(
My Zero 10x was confiscated and taken to charlton on Wednesday too. Got stopped 100m from my house and they wouldn’t even escort me home with it... that’s fucking ridiculous!
but how did you get it back.. I thought it had to be insured before they would hand it over, or is it just pay up so they can catch you again..
@@jpmulvey I paid £150 and they let me take it away.
I took a van down to collect it, but the guys at the pound had no idea that’s what I was going to do it.
@@rakeshsingh1 So it is just about the money..
@@rakeshsingh1 did you have any correspondence with any police officers or did you just go and pick it up?
Where can I find this "World map of legalities" that was mentioned?
After listening intently numerous times and trying to decipher, I thought she - possibly - said "Halfords". I checked there but can't find that map.
Anyone any idea?
Here you go! www.halfords.com/scooters/expert-advice/planet-e-scooter.html
Unfortunately I Got into the police trap near the Big Ben, after using it for 3 years (Not to mention how many police cars I went passed, one even told me it’s cool). When I got it no one ever said it was illegal!
The law as well as the public e scooter are so lame. The whole reason why this scooter is so popular is because London transportation is way too expensive! Also It takes me one hour taking tube to work, meanwhile only 30 mins with the scooter! News about drunk, erratic users are all over the internet but the truth is majority of the users are civilised working people who simply trying to get to work!!!
great video and well balanced, well done to Ricardo and Rob!
With respect its like a BBC interview.
Not well balanced at all where was the anti motorised vehicle on the pavement representative?
You should all come to Bracknell. I saw 12 around the town centre in the space of 30 minutes yesterday lunchtime - and nobody doing a thing about it!
What should have been done ?
@@RedBullAddict-_- What’s being done in London, obviously. Let’s use them only when they are legal. Just needs a little patience.
Electric Scooters in themselves are not a problem, it is the irresponsible use of them that is the problem. Haven’t seen any user using these scooters in a legal manner so I have to say that they are 100% being used in an irresponsible manner.
Trusted to tear down the road in a 2 ton car but not to ride an escooter sensibly … come on man !
Be as uncooperative with the police as possible to slow them down & always take it to court to clogg up the system.
Talking about environment friendly, what’s wrong having e Scooter 🛵
Electric ⚡️ is forward UK 🇬🇧
COME ON update UK
You can rent one and use it, but you can't buy one and use it. I'm too old to use one unfortunately and disabled, but seeing young people buzzing around on them and being environmentally friendly and also not stuck on public transport and just getting to where you want to be, sounds fecking crazy to me. There will be accidents, but you can have them walking. Get on them feck the law and enjoy yourselves, as your only young once. I wish I was scooting along beside you all.
The city and police where I live in southern Indiana just released a video on their Facebook in the last week stating the scooter rules and saying they're cracking down on them being in the bike/pedestrian lane at the riverfront. As a responsible scooter owner it kills me being that's the best view in the city.
Guys, it’s about bringing in a new fine regiment to make money before people adapt.
Feds gotta catch me first! At any given time there is an alley way you can jet down. If you letting on foot police catch you then you deserve that fine.
Are you American?
@@jaysee2213 na british
@@xstonedsoberx then who the fuck are the feds???
@@jaysee2213 it's slang for police.
Facts
All total BS.
I have a full Car license, I have a full Motorcycle license, I am over 21 ffs!
I bought and paid for my Scoot, I paid VAT on it. I enjoy riding it, I use cycle lanes, I may actually start using the pavement if I reduce the risk of losing my License. The weather is great, we should be allowed to enjoy it.
The Nanny state in the UK needs to sop and the Police need to do what we all pay them to do.
I'm going to Court If I get a tug. Fight these Tyrants, every step of the way!
Had mine seized last Thursday on the outskirts of Wolverhampton. They said they’d done 5 of us in the last two hours. It was a knee jerk reaction to a lad getting killed and his girlfriend who was riding pillion with him been seriously injured. As far as I can find out the purge only lasted a few hours and so I believe I was discriminated against. I work in Birmingham and the police there (where trials are going on) that if I ride it responsibly I’ll be ok. When I told them what had happened they were shocked. I’d had it for 15 months and had clocked up 2150 miles without incident. I’m 58 and have health issues. I don’t drive and live out in the sticks and so the scooter was life changing to me. Im fooked now.
In the time that it takes me to get in my Diesel car ... back out drive to the supermarket and find a parking space.... I am already there riding my zero emmission electric scooter... no brainer.
You may need more than brains if you hit someone and injure them. I'd suggest lots of £20 notes to settle any injury claim made against you. You are actually using a motor vehicle.....
@@Brian-om2hh using mine since 2017.. use it on back roads...sensible rider...wear hi viz and a helmet...never hit anyone ever.
@@Brian-om2hh again do u have an issue with a bike or ebike doing exactly the same but faster with adults or kids riding them? There is no difference but would you get arrested, fined, bike taken, points....hell no.
@@Brian-om2hh never heard of police stopping bikes on pavements. There needs to be some common ground between bikes and scooters
@@e-scooterguy riding a bike on the pavement, if seen by police you will get a a fine.
we are all sick of waiting for this dithering government we want it now o god we are such criminals buy enjoying ourselves
sick of this country, public services are absolute dire, pay a fortune in taxes.. and they prioritise busting escooters. Clowns.
Government introduce number plates and registration for eScooters and SUPER HIGH FINES if riders put pedestrians in danger or ride crazy and in inappropriate places...
Fines should be DOUBLE of what fines for a car drivers are because drivers need to pass a driving test and have both insurance and designated safety driving ecosystem
While yes it is somewhat more dangerous, it's a little known fact that if you just don't wear a helmet police usually will not chase you.
Just keep going.
The app sounds like a good idea. I use Komoot app when I ride off-road and it records all telemetry.
Police really need to get their priorities right! Crime increasing and they’re chasing around scooter riders! Easy pickings for those figures!
The police can confiscte my scooter, if they can catch me