29:30 another example of what daniel is talking about, brandon has literally said that while kelsier would like kaladin, kaladin would not like kelsier
@@Wade8419 I've only started listening to the odd Shardcast but I've had that with other things I listen to. Goes by surprisingly quick if your doing idle jobs like commuting or garden work.
@@lilwinchester1417 I don’t think so. I think his main complaint was the story tied directly to this book. Not the overall plot of the cosmere and world building.
I like your voice Eric. I like that you are so excited about this topic! I am a fan of both you and the your voice. It was a really fun episode guys! Well done.
ROW SPOILERS I can't believe Ian mentioned Gavilar's sphere and didn't also mention the fact that in the prologue of the very first Stormlight book Gavilar asks Szeth if Kelsier sent him
Daniel, I love your idea that the 5th book is dark. Totally makes sense. I hope Brandon goes starkly bleak (even with the death of multiple primary characters) with just a glimmer of hope, and then brings beauty and repair for a stunning consummation to end the 10th book.
I hope so. I really do. Kal is my favourite after all. But the way Brandon keeps painting him as this almost invincible (vulnerable too, yes) character who can't die, it seems to me that it's all going to pay off in a way where Kal does end up dead. But I pray to god that won't happen. I will be distraught.
Also, he is constantly called son of tanavast, the only one who is called that, and there always hints that he he is different. Could be he will do a "vin" and ascend to Honor.
Kal is favorite character, but the all the "he is immortal" talking is starting to bother me (I'm talking about the books, RoW specifically), but i agree that we will have more revelations about him and Syl
I agree with FrozenAXL, with Kaladin Stormblessed referred to as "The son of Tanavast". The fact that the honor blades came Honor's shard, and Jezrien referred to as the king of the heralds; which speaks of a bond to all the heralds and that they where kept in line by him leaves many unanswered questions. The Stormfather's comment to Dalinar about Ishar not being checked because honor isn't alive; the idea that honor wouldn't be ok with Ishar stealing bonds. Kaladin Stormblessed and Sylphrena still have a BIG role/reveal to come. Navani told the Sibling that honor still lives in the hearts of men. Hmm, so many questions...
Daniel is making me depressed. If Kaladin, Adolin & Dalinar all die and Shallan goes on, I don’t even think I’ll want to read the back 5 books. Kaladin is my absolute favorite. I often flip through chapters to see when the next Kaladin chapter is. I don’t even like Shallan. I mean, I often cringe when I get to a Shallan POV chapter. If I have no Kaladin to look forward to and I’m stuck with an even more depressed DID Shallan? Yikes. I honestly may not even care anymore.
about 1:35:00 for the record I love all the shardcast episodes ... and would happily watch a longer. more frequent ones ... they make a good thing to listen to in the commute or while doing the dishes. I hope the collab with daniel helps blow the channel up to greater numbers... you guys really deserve a bigger payday for all this quality content!!!
I've said this before in Daniel's RoW but I will say it again here. Daniel doesn't understand Adolin's arc in this book. The trial has been shown to be rigged from the very beginning. It wasn't supposed to be where he shines because of that fact. His arc right now is, as Eric said, being his own person.
And he still very much has agency throughout it. It was only because of his persistence with his love and respect in getting through to Maya that caused her to finally speak. It was still because of his actions that he won the trial.
@@geosustento8894 i think its more that the booktubers go to audio books instead of actually reading it. i notice alot of them just totally missing very obvious answers to there dumb questions about what happened in a book.
Something I haven't seen talked about is the fact that Odium, while explaining to Dalinar why he can't break his word, also explained what happens if Dalinar breaks his word, which is that Odium is free from what binds him to Roshar. Taravangian could see a way to exploit that. For example, he could choose Dalinar's youngest son as his champion and if Dalinar refuses or reneges on everything ultimately undoes everything that binds Odium.
I love Daniel's video about Brandon's writing problem. I only watch the cosmere stuff he does. I'm finding it more and more difficult to accept books which misrepresent mental health or use it as a magic explanation for a villain ( thrillers are usually guilty of this). I got into the Cosmere after abandoning the Wheel of Time after Book 10 (stretched too thin, collapsing under its own weight due to the number of characters) , putting down the first book of The Game of Thrones (too much misery, too brutal, was making me lose hope in the world) and being confused by a Malazan book (I don't think it was the first one). I was looking for something that did not waffle about a lot while saying little (sometimes beautiful prose can be used as a crutch to prop up a lackluster story). I went to an online forum about fantasy novels, picked up Mistborn and was hooked by the relentless pacing of the book and the magic system. Of course, I felt like a proud parent when some of my friends asked me about Sanderson when he was chosen to complete The Wheel of Time. My pride multiplied ten-fold when he decided to release Warbreaker online under the Creative Commons.
How am I so late to this? I absolutely love everyone on Shardcast and I started reading my first Cosmere book because of a review by Daniel Greene and it changed my life. I trust all of his reviews now because of it lol
It didn't even occur to me that I'd been primed for the cosmere by my high school obsession with the Dark Tower and the kingverse in general but I suppose that makes sense. This was such a fun episode.
SPOILERS...COSMERE I don’t like the idea of fridge-ing Adolin for the sake of Kaladin or Shallan. It sounds like something cheap that Sanderson wouldn’t do. Besides he doesn’t repeat himself where he can help it and he sort of did that with Elend for Vin. At the same time I can see it happening a little if it’s done for Adolin; so far Adolin has been shown to be the embodiment of the Edgedancer ideals and I think the fourth/fifth ideal of Edgedancers would be about sacrifice and maybe sacrificing what you want for others. I’m so conflicted on this subject.😕
You can't just tell me you've finished fanart of Kaladin with a puppy, and not provide a link to said fan art, so I can cry tears of joy over it for several hours
I took my last final of college today. I'm buying Dawnshard and Rhythm of War tomorrow, hope to be done in 5 days. Then I'll be back for that spoiler section.
0:43:20 I think they are right about there being more bond smiths this time around, they way Brandon had specifically phased this question in his spoiler live stream "historically, there have always been 3 bond smiths at one time"... and the convo around it did suggest that things might be different this time around. Also, when we say Rabonial trying to corrupt the sibling, she was infusing the sibling with void light, and the way she was "healed" was the rhythm they discoverd that pushes out void light. Given the fact that now they the that Rhythm, along with knowledge of anti lights, I think they might be able to "re-make"? the unmade, and If any unmade is as strong as the storm father which i am pretty sure Ba-Ado-Misham is.... we're definitely going to see more bond smiths.
I'm into the idea of Brandon doing something super dark because unlike many series which are dark and gritty just for dramatic effect or for "realism", I know a dark Sanderson book would exist primarily to make the true good ending of the series shine all the brighter
I love the long format! My only problem with it is I like longform podcasts for background while I work, but I am WAY to interested in Shardcast to do background it. Good to see DG here too, seeing his mind blown was amazing!
This is awesome! The two channels I watch the most do a crossover A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one! Best cosmere moment... Vivenna showing up in Oathbringer! And recognizing the Kata of Adolin
SPOILER for Rhythm of War I'm now so proud I picked up who Thaidakar is almost right away in that chapter. I read "Lord of Scars", and was like, who has scars that are prominent enough for that name? Mraize, but it's obviously not him. So that leaves only Kelsier. And then the message from Hoid, "I'll smack you around again". Yep, definitely Kelsier! I'm also very glad I read both Secret History and White Sand right before Rhythm of War.
I loved Shallan in this book, I felt that SPOILERS: her real plotline was building towards her remembering Testament, I didnt think it was about Formless at all until I heard Daniel
I thought Hoid was Brandon placing himself in the story like a Stan Lee cameo. It made more sense when he revealed the Cosmere. How about a Scott Lynch and Brandon Sanderson collaboration? Lynch can be brutal, kill people violently, have colorful language and Brandon can outline all the books.
The Navani + Dalinar grossness being discussed got gut busting laughter from me. What a good video, so many funny moments. Better editing too, with the outtake at the end. Will watch some of this dude's stuff as he seems to be on point and pretty intelligent. 10/10
OMG I waited so long for a collaboration with Daniel Greene. Edit: I just wanted to add something about your comment about people watching your really long videos. I anxiously await your uploads because for me it is like watching a really good movie and kind of listening to a discussion I would like to have and even though I do not have them I get to enjoy other people talking about my favourite stuff. And they are so incredibly entertaining and nobody in my life reads Sanderson so I enjoy your discussion and I hope to find people to talk about it because I am really nervous about writing with people so I am nervous about engaging on discord. I am better with actually talking with people, at least I think so. So I just wanted to say thank you.
I am glad to see the dresden files get some love here. The dresden files is my favorite series but Sanderson is my 2nd favorite author. I actually discovered Sanderson from dresden files forums back in 2016 when I was looking for something new to read. Huge overlap between these 2 great but very different series
A great episode, as per usual! I kinda don't want to lavish any self explanatory compliments, but a few chapters into Jade City, I must thank you for giving book recommendations. Having tore through back to back audiobook readings of RoW, I must admit to a (quasi) intellectual form of post partum depression, or quality book withdrawal or.... Whatever, point is, I'm satiated, and grateful, and thank you.
I just can't see Kaladin dying. I mean it would be equal to the red wedding in terms of complete slaughter of a main character. He has been the driving character in each book of finding the ideals. I could be completely wrong and am happy to admit it. But I just feel Kaladin dying would just be series breaking. At least for me.
What the Red Wedding did - killing the main character in the middle of the story - is incredibly rare, and I highly doubt Sanderson will ever do anything like that. However, something that *isn't* like that is a main character dying at the *end* of the story. That is incredibly common. In fact, Sanderson has already done that on multiple occassions (Mistborn and Warbreaker). And Book 5 is the end of Stormlight's first arc. If you genuinely think Kalidin is safe from death, then I don't think you've properly internalized that the story arc is ending next book. Yes, the story of Roshar will continue... just like the story of Scadrial continued with Alloy of Law. Am I saying Kaladin will definately die? No, absolutely not. But he still has a very real chance of dying.
to avoid the weirdness of eating metal, I just think about Mistborns as drinking magkia/mana potions (that happen to be made from alcohol and powered metals)
So... I've known your site for a long time but I just discovered that you had a youtube channel... I'm enjoyins the discussion. You have a new subscriber !
Count me as one of the few who enjoy longer podcasts. You guys do a great job! Though I do usually just have the audio playing in the background as opposed to video.
Longform content is great content. 10 hour work days mean needing all the longform possible. Please let your reviews and chats go long. There is an audience of us who want that.
I can come up with: Mare - Kelsier/March, Navani - Dalinar/Gavilar, King - Vivenna/Siri (kind of, since Vivenna didn't really have a relationship with him) Which is the fourth?
@@pontuslindheohlsson2184 I actually totally forgot about Mare and Kel/Marsh. Navani - Dalinar/Gavilar Susebron - Siri/Vivenna (I counted it) Wax - Marasi/Steris (Marasi had a crush on him for a bit in the beginning) Vin - Elend/Zane
Just finished warbeaker and starting mistborne 2. Then I'll go back through mistborne 1 and SA. I never realized all this stuff connected like it did and now that things are starting to click its fun.
Thx everyone this was fun. Have you ever done more book recommendations before would love to hear some more. And maybe a bookshelf tour, when I saw you stare at your shelves I was wondering what would be on them.
Hearing Cradle mentioned, I really wish there were more reviews of some of my favourite indie-published series. Cradle, Mother of Learning, Arcane Ascension, ...
I really want to have a cosmere crossover book. I mean there is a cosmere Gods war foreshadowing in the Stormlight archive. So really looking forward to that.
Ha, I picked up Elantris, couldn't get into it but l read the Mistborn blurb and bought Mistborn asap. As a fantasy series, that is completed & has hefty page counts, I suggest the Inda series by Sherwood Smith
I don't see how a child champion would help Odium at all, sure Dalinar couldn't kill a baby (probably...) but I'm pretty sure a baby couldn't kill the blackthorn either so it's a complete stalemate, which getting out of was the point of champions to begin with.
Daniel reminding me that Brandon wrote AMOL which has so many character deaths makes me very scared for W&T, especially considering the preview chapters
Brandon changed the end of Words of Radiance so Kaladin only sliced off Szeth's hand. I forget the exact details of the original but Kaladin just straight killed him in the original, and Brandon thought that was not appropriate for Kaladin. -Eric
@@coren216 ya but isn’t Cultuvation an entity so wouldn’t that be u know overpowered. But although With Brandon’s writing it’s definitely not going to be predictable normal warriors fight.
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Best part (RoW spoilers): 30:30 (it's where the thumbnail is from). Go to 29:14 for full context for the hilarity.
omg hilarious
OMG I totally agree, Daniel's reaction is priceless - glad you posted this, you should pin it to the top
Absolutely the best!!!
I prefer the longer videos. I like to paint while i listen so ramble to your hearts content lol
RoW spolers
I am not convinced hoid is the good guy and the ghost bloods are evil.
I want the darkest cosmere timeline.
It was such a great surprise to see you here! I always watch shardcast.
Did i get the idea to read Peter F. Hamiltons Commonwealth books from your channel?
I honestly don't..
I want to keep my hopefilled Stormlight books..
There's enough grimdark in this world.. and I am not just talking about books
You are not alone in your lack of enjoyment of the Mandalorian.
RAFO
Daniel revealing his world-hopping abilities this episode.
Daniel is Hoid
@@nandotemplo He certainly is WITty enough
29:30 another example of what daniel is talking about, brandon has literally said that while kelsier would like kaladin, kaladin would not like kelsier
To be fair, when Brandon says “it’s what you think it is”, he was telling the truth since anti void light needs intent to be created
This comment is low key really smart
Daniel Greene on Shardcast? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
these words are accepted
I wouldn't worry about the length of the podcasts. You have Sanderson fans after all...
Great podcast as well. Really enjoyed seeing Daniel on
Yeah I prefer longer podcasts. I often run out of content to listen to while I'm busy, so more content is a positive imo.
@@Wade8419 I've only started listening to the odd Shardcast but I've had that with other things I listen to. Goes by surprisingly quick if your doing idle jobs like commuting or garden work.
Rhythm of War spoilers
I loved Daniel's reaction to Thaidakar! Amazing!
I would like to know if it would change his rating for rhythm of war
His reaction was perfect!
@@lilwinchester1417 I don’t think so. I think his main complaint was the story tied directly to this book. Not the overall plot of the cosmere and world building.
I like your voice Eric. I like that you are so excited about this topic! I am a fan of both you and the your voice.
It was a really fun episode guys! Well done.
I absolutely agree, and Eric's voice and enthusiasm are like 25% of why I enjoy this podcast so much
The progressive horror on Ian's face from the Adolin critique to Syl dying was comedic gold. We love you Ian!
Speaking of Avengers crossover events: All I'm missing is Mercy Napier in here. What a fun crossing of worlds guys.
I'd love to have her on. -Eric
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I can't believe Ian mentioned Gavilar's sphere and didn't also mention the fact that in the prologue of the very first Stormlight book Gavilar asks Szeth if Kelsier sent him
Good point
I think they mentioned it later
Bro that legit blew my Mind into pieces
@@shabadabba Can confirm that I also remember them mentioning it. I don' remember exactly when.
wow as i reread He does tell did Kelsier sent him, I dont know back then that who was Thaidakar so it went flew above my head.
Oooh a crossover between my favorite goblin and my favorite Cosmere nerds
This is one of the best Shardcast episodes ever. I just rewatched it and it’s so damn funny and just enjoyable overall.
Daniel, I love your idea that the 5th book is dark. Totally makes sense.
I hope Brandon goes starkly bleak (even with the death of multiple primary characters) with just a glimmer of hope, and then brings beauty and repair for a stunning consummation to end the 10th book.
There's something about Sylphrena; an ancient honorspren, that has a big reveal to come and I don't think Kaladin Stormblessed will die.
I hope so. I really do. Kal is my favourite after all. But the way Brandon keeps painting him as this almost invincible (vulnerable too, yes) character who can't die, it seems to me that it's all going to pay off in a way where Kal does end up dead. But I pray to god that won't happen. I will be distraught.
Also, he is constantly called son of tanavast, the only one who is called that, and there always hints that he he is different.
Could be he will do a "vin" and ascend to Honor.
Kal is favorite character, but the all the "he is immortal" talking is starting to bother me (I'm talking about the books, RoW specifically), but i agree that we will have more revelations about him and Syl
I agree with FrozenAXL, with Kaladin Stormblessed referred to as "The son of Tanavast". The fact that the honor blades came Honor's shard, and Jezrien referred to as the king of the heralds; which speaks of a bond to all the heralds and that they where kept in line by him leaves many unanswered questions. The Stormfather's comment to Dalinar about Ishar not being checked because honor isn't alive; the idea that honor wouldn't be ok with Ishar stealing bonds. Kaladin Stormblessed and Sylphrena still have a BIG role/reveal to come. Navani told the Sibling that honor still lives in the hearts of men. Hmm, so many questions...
Daniel is making me depressed. If Kaladin, Adolin & Dalinar all die and Shallan goes on, I don’t even think I’ll want to read the back 5 books.
Kaladin is my absolute favorite. I often flip through chapters to see when the next Kaladin chapter is. I don’t even like Shallan. I mean, I often cringe when I get to a Shallan POV chapter. If I have no Kaladin to look forward to and I’m stuck with an even more depressed DID Shallan? Yikes. I honestly may not even care anymore.
Can't wait for windrunners in space with shardguns !
about 1:35:00 for the record I love all the shardcast episodes ... and would happily watch a longer. more frequent ones ... they make a good thing to listen to in the commute or while doing the dishes.
I hope the collab with daniel helps blow the channel up to greater numbers... you guys really deserve a bigger payday for all this quality content!!!
I've said this before in Daniel's RoW but I will say it again here. Daniel doesn't understand Adolin's arc in this book. The trial has been shown to be rigged from the very beginning. It wasn't supposed to be where he shines because of that fact. His arc right now is, as Eric said, being his own person.
I know right, I feel it went over his head that whole plotline.
@@kmicheller24 I used to really enjoy his book reviews, but there are instances when he can be a bit obnoxious.
And he still very much has agency throughout it. It was only because of his persistence with his love and respect in getting through to Maya that caused her to finally speak. It was still because of his actions that he won the trial.
@@geosustento8894 i think its more that the booktubers go to audio books instead of actually reading it. i notice alot of them just totally missing very obvious answers to there dumb questions about what happened in a book.
That's his opinion, and the whole point of a review is to hear the opinion of the reviewer
Something I haven't seen talked about is the fact that Odium, while explaining to Dalinar why he can't break his word, also explained what happens if Dalinar breaks his word, which is that Odium is free from what binds him to Roshar. Taravangian could see a way to exploit that. For example, he could choose Dalinar's youngest son as his champion and if Dalinar refuses or reneges on everything ultimately undoes everything that binds Odium.
OR he could choose Adolin. "Born Under The Sign Of The Nine". Plus he already has a rocky relationship with Dalinar
Daniel learning a big reveal at the end of RoW 🤣 that was all our reactions !
I love Daniel's video about Brandon's writing problem. I only watch the cosmere stuff he does. I'm finding it more and more difficult to accept books which misrepresent mental health or use it as a magic explanation for a villain ( thrillers are usually guilty of this).
I got into the Cosmere after abandoning the Wheel of Time after Book 10 (stretched too thin, collapsing under its own weight due to the number of characters) , putting down the first book of The Game of Thrones (too much misery, too brutal, was making me lose hope in the world) and being confused by a Malazan book (I don't think it was the first one).
I was looking for something that did not waffle about a lot while saying little (sometimes beautiful prose can be used as a crutch to prop up a lackluster story). I went to an online forum about fantasy novels, picked up Mistborn and was hooked by the relentless pacing of the book and the magic system.
Of course, I felt like a proud parent when some of my friends asked me about Sanderson when he was chosen to complete The Wheel of Time. My pride multiplied ten-fold when he decided to release Warbreaker online under the Creative Commons.
How am I so late to this? I absolutely love everyone on Shardcast and I started reading my first Cosmere book because of a review by Daniel Greene and it changed my life. I trust all of his reviews now because of it lol
We watch/listen because it's a conversation and while yall get the chance to explore new ideas from the Cosmere, we do too.
It didn't even occur to me that I'd been primed for the cosmere by my high school obsession with the Dark Tower and the kingverse in general but I suppose that makes sense. This was such a fun episode.
This episode is really, really fun.
SPOILERS...COSMERE
I don’t like the idea of fridge-ing Adolin for the sake of Kaladin or Shallan. It sounds like something cheap that Sanderson wouldn’t do. Besides he doesn’t repeat himself where he can help it and he sort of did that with Elend for Vin. At the same time I can see it happening a little if it’s done for Adolin; so far Adolin has been shown to be the embodiment of the Edgedancer ideals and I think the fourth/fifth ideal of Edgedancers would be about sacrifice and maybe sacrificing what you want for others. I’m so conflicted on this subject.😕
i feel like this ep is a reward for me finishing my kaladin puppy fan art lol
You can't just tell me you've finished fanart of Kaladin with a puppy, and not provide a link to said fan art, so I can cry tears of joy over it for several hours
Link please!
Link: instagram.com/p/CIqUHUvjVxZ/?
@@CamReeds it's freaking amazing omg
Kaladin deserves a service dog
59:35 good lord Daniel is breaking my heart here. I would cry if this happens
I took my last final of college today. I'm buying Dawnshard and Rhythm of War tomorrow, hope to be done in 5 days. Then I'll be back for that spoiler section.
0:43:20 I think they are right about there being more bond smiths this time around, they way Brandon had specifically phased this question in his spoiler live stream "historically, there have always been 3 bond smiths at one time"... and the convo around it did suggest that things might be different this time around. Also, when we say Rabonial trying to corrupt the sibling, she was infusing the sibling with void light, and the way she was "healed" was the rhythm they discoverd that pushes out void light. Given the fact that now they the that Rhythm, along with knowledge of anti lights, I think they might be able to "re-make"? the unmade, and If any unmade is as strong as the storm father which i am pretty sure Ba-Ado-Misham is.... we're definitely going to see more bond smiths.
I'm into the idea of Brandon doing something super dark because unlike many series which are dark and gritty just for dramatic effect or for "realism", I know a dark Sanderson book would exist primarily to make the true good ending of the series shine all the brighter
Been watching Daniel since his first Wheel of Time summaries. Glad to see you guys had him on.
Kind seems uninformed tbh. Not much value for me.
I love the long format! My only problem with it is I like longform podcasts for background while I work, but I am WAY to interested in Shardcast to do background it. Good to see DG here too, seeing his mind blown was amazing!
I heard it and now imagine syl wandering the winds, sad but not knowing why as ending of part 5.😭😭
Nah I might fuckin lose it if that happened
This is awesome! The two channels I watch the most do a crossover
A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Best cosmere moment... Vivenna showing up in Oathbringer! And recognizing the Kata of Adolin
Luv ya Daniel! Also OverLord and shout out to OverLady! Also you Eric! Thanks for all the effort!
Aw, I would have loved to see Daniel play Who's That Cosmere Character
Yaaaa we need that to happen
SPOILER for Rhythm of War
I'm now so proud I picked up who Thaidakar is almost right away in that chapter. I read "Lord of Scars", and was like, who has scars that are prominent enough for that name? Mraize, but it's obviously not him. So that leaves only Kelsier. And then the message from Hoid, "I'll smack you around again". Yep, definitely Kelsier!
I'm also very glad I read both Secret History and White Sand right before Rhythm of War.
I loved Shallan in this book, I felt that SPOILERS: her real plotline was building towards her remembering Testament, I didnt think it was about Formless at all until I heard Daniel
This episode is one of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to (and I listen to like 3 hours a day), you guys are killing it.
I thought Hoid was Brandon placing himself in the story like a Stan Lee cameo. It made more sense when he revealed the Cosmere.
How about a Scott Lynch and Brandon Sanderson collaboration?
Lynch can be brutal, kill people violently, have colorful language and Brandon can outline all the books.
The Navani + Dalinar grossness being discussed got gut busting laughter from me. What a good video, so many funny moments. Better editing too, with the outtake at the end. Will watch some of this dude's stuff as he seems to be on point and pretty intelligent. 10/10
Man, The Tragedy of Thaylen Field got brought up? That's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time
don’t seem to remember ever owning a tragedy
The subscription feed crossover nobody expected.
OMG I waited so long for a collaboration with Daniel Greene.
Edit: I just wanted to add something about your comment about people watching your really long videos. I anxiously await your uploads because for me it is like watching a really good movie and kind of listening to a discussion I would like to have and even though I do not have them I get to enjoy other people talking about my favourite stuff. And they are so incredibly entertaining and nobody in my life reads Sanderson so I enjoy your discussion and I hope to find people to talk about it because I am really nervous about writing with people so I am nervous about engaging on discord. I am better with actually talking with people, at least I think so. So I just wanted to say thank you.
I am glad to see the dresden files get some love here. The dresden files is my favorite series but Sanderson is my 2nd favorite author. I actually discovered Sanderson from dresden files forums back in 2016 when I was looking for something new to read. Huge overlap between these 2 great but very different series
Yes for King/Sanderson collab!! Someone make it happen!
Ooooooh I'm just clicking on the video now so I haven't watched it yet, but I'm so excited. This is gonna be awesome
Felt like Daniel Green was from an old japanese dubbed movie on the first few seconds. Almost shot milk out of my nose.
Ty, this was fun! Starting mistborn (finally)right now. I read Brandon's Stormlight archive books and Warbreaker so far
A great episode, as per usual!
I kinda don't want to lavish any self explanatory compliments, but a few chapters into Jade City, I must thank you for giving book recommendations.
Having tore through back to back audiobook readings of RoW, I must admit to a (quasi) intellectual form of post partum depression, or quality book withdrawal or.... Whatever, point is, I'm satiated, and grateful, and thank you.
This is a good group. I could listen to this for another 2 hours. Does this mean Disheveled Goblin = Hoid?
We easily could have talked for two more hours if we didn't get hungry and need to break for food. -Eric
I just can't see Kaladin dying. I mean it would be equal to the red wedding in terms of complete slaughter of a main character. He has been the driving character in each book of finding the ideals. I could be completely wrong and am happy to admit it. But I just feel Kaladin dying would just be series breaking. At least for me.
Yeah me too 😭😭😭
What the Red Wedding did - killing the main character in the middle of the story - is incredibly rare, and I highly doubt Sanderson will ever do anything like that. However, something that *isn't* like that is a main character dying at the *end* of the story.
That is incredibly common.
In fact, Sanderson has already done that on multiple occassions (Mistborn and Warbreaker).
And Book 5 is the end of Stormlight's first arc.
If you genuinely think Kalidin is safe from death, then I don't think you've properly internalized that the story arc is ending next book.
Yes, the story of Roshar will continue... just like the story of Scadrial continued with Alloy of Law.
Am I saying Kaladin will definately die? No, absolutely not. But he still has a very real chance of dying.
My two favorite fantasy channels!!! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
this was very enjoyable
Great video, great to see guests in the podcast. Awesome work
to avoid the weirdness of eating metal, I just think about Mistborns as drinking magkia/mana potions (that happen to be made from alcohol and powered metals)
WHAT! THIS WAS NOT EXPEXTED!!
Wow! So cool you guys could get a celebrity guest!
I so pumped to see Daniel Greene on here!!!!!!!!!!
“If Dalinar met Kelsier”
Well, he just might now.
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Welcome!
Been waiting for this crossover for so long
Count me as one of the few who enjoy longer podcasts. You guys do a great job! Though I do usually just have the audio playing in the background as opposed to video.
Sam isn't a supporting character. He's as much the hero of the story as Frodo was. Even Tolkien said so.
Arguably even more of a hero.
Longform content is great content. 10 hour work days mean needing all the longform possible. Please let your reviews and chats go long. There is an audience of us who want that.
This is awesome! I’m glad they get along
Holy f'ing epic-favorite-youtube-channels-crossover-teamup Batman!!!
surprised to see Daniel in a 2 hr video haha
Ian with all the amazing takes, I love his taste in stories :)
This was awesome! So much fun 😁
This looked like so much fun. Maybe you can do it again when another one comes out
06:26 George R R Martin named Brandon The Builder for a reason 😂
On the topic of Cosmere video games, I'd love a Dynasty Warriors style game set during a past Desolation
I didn't know this is what I needed today.
I just realized that relationship dynamic between a main character and two siblings has happened four times across the cosmere
I can come up with:
Mare - Kelsier/March,
Navani - Dalinar/Gavilar,
King - Vivenna/Siri (kind of, since Vivenna didn't really have a relationship with him)
Which is the fourth?
@@pontuslindheohlsson2184 I actually totally forgot about Mare and Kel/Marsh.
Navani - Dalinar/Gavilar
Susebron - Siri/Vivenna (I counted it)
Wax - Marasi/Steris (Marasi had a crush on him for a bit in the beginning)
Vin - Elend/Zane
30:30 Daniel.exe has stopped working
The most epic crossover in history!
Great video guys, you need to have Daniel on again
I'd love to have him! He's great fun to talk to for sure. -Eric
@@17thShard Appreciate the reply Eric, thanks for the content and have a nice day
At least I'm not the only one getting shook by this!
Just finished warbeaker and starting mistborne 2. Then I'll go back through mistborne 1 and SA. I never realized all this stuff connected like it did and now that things are starting to click its fun.
Wouldn’t mind a podcast where these guys and Daniel green discus other books as well. It’s a great vid.
I like the Andy Weir approach where he took up a job as a dev and kept writing till he got one published
This was fun I too think Adolin's death is certain but knowing Sanderson it would be surely something that I'm not expecting
Thx everyone this was fun. Have you ever done more book recommendations before would love to hear some more. And maybe a bookshelf tour, when I saw you stare at your shelves I was wondering what would be on them.
Goddammit Daniel now I want a King Sanderson collab too
Hearing Cradle mentioned, I really wish there were more reviews of some of my favourite indie-published series.
Cradle, Mother of Learning, Arcane Ascension, ...
Yeah, I saw that as well. I think I was part way through Words of Radiance, and hadn't read up to that yet. It was a bit of a suprise
Oh no Ben is telling the story again 👋
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Oh no, Ben is talking about the baby champion theory again 🗣️
That Rohar map is amazing!
I really want to have a cosmere crossover book. I mean there is a cosmere Gods war foreshadowing in the Stormlight archive. So really looking forward to that.
What video did Daniel do the map thing?
I wouldn’t be able to keep up with Brandon if it weren’t for audio books, also considering I started this year it has taken a commitment
Ha, I picked up Elantris, couldn't get into it but l read the Mistborn blurb and bought Mistborn asap.
As a fantasy series, that is completed & has hefty page counts, I suggest the Inda series by Sherwood Smith
I don't see how a child champion would help Odium at all, sure Dalinar couldn't kill a baby (probably...) but I'm pretty sure a baby couldn't kill the blackthorn either so it's a complete stalemate, which getting out of was the point of champions to begin with.
Daniel reminding me that Brandon wrote AMOL which has so many character deaths makes me very scared for W&T, especially considering the preview chapters
A surprise of a cross over, but a welcome one.
Wait what's the context for 1:32:55
Brandon changed the end of Words of Radiance so Kaladin only sliced off Szeth's hand. I forget the exact details of the original but Kaladin just straight killed him in the original, and Brandon thought that was not appropriate for Kaladin. -Eric
@@17thShard oh man I like the original one. But I do agree that it is not Kaladin's style
Champions are going to be Nale vs Taln or Dalinar vs Adolin (D-A goes with Ben’s dark theory)
False. Odiums champion will be cultivation.
@@coren216 WTF
@@arshgrewal9487 they're friends now. You watch. When it happens, come back to this comment for more cosmere predictions.
@@coren216 ya but isn’t Cultuvation an entity so wouldn’t that be u know overpowered. But although With Brandon’s writing it’s definitely not going to be predictable normal warriors fight.
@@arshgrewal9487 I imagine that's a loophole Taravodium saw in the agreement. Dalinar never stipulated it couldn't be another shard.