Bret Hart joining WCW was the beginning of the end for WCW It was clear they had no idea how to use him and really had only one good idea they milked to the end
I would’ve had Hart come out on Nitro and cut a promo saying that he never tapped out and therefore is still WWF champion, and in his 1st match after his no compete clause have him win the WCW title and tout himself as the “undisputed champion” it would have cheapened the WWF Title and elevated the WCW title. However that would’ve meant Hogan dropping the title who didn’t get along with Hart.........
There was also a little matter of Hogan and Nash having enough backstage clout to impact booking and how people were used, and both Hogan and Nash were protective of their spots on the card.
Also, it wasn't just fear of WCW repercussion for the Flair and the belt incident from 91 but more poignantly when Medusa showed up on Nitro with the WWF Women's belt and canned it on live tv...
I always feel so terrible for Brett the more I hear about his actual story. Dude deserved to be so much more than he ever got. Truly one of the greatest of all time.
Thanks for explaining how Flair turned up in wwf with the belt. I was really young at the time so had no clue how that came about and after that it just wasn't important but now I know. Cool
@@Meatman8089 Al thought that would make sense the reason why they called x pac is because hogan use to call him syxx pac so he took the syx off and kept the x because of dx
A big controversially firing few talk about is Sensational Sherry from WCW when she was managing the Harlem Heat. It was sudden, it suprised the Harlem Heat themselves once they heard about it and WCW really gave no explanation about it.
After listening to Jim Cornette, I believe William Regal's account more. Multiple people behind the scene were telling stars something different to the point that, if you did something that a rival wcw booker did, many people would hate you.
Regal was so talented, I watched WCW Saturday Night and he was always in there. That show had great wrestling, unlike Nitro which was the NWO run in show
They should of used Goldberg being green and Regal as a seasoned veteran to show even Goldberg had a weakness. It’s what they should’ve used to end the streak.
it wasn't a chair leg Simon, it was a squeegy. you know the thing that you see at petrol stations to clean your windshields. multiple sources have said that
Another example is Paul Roma, who was fired after sandbagging his match with Alex Wright at Superbrawl 1995. Instead of making the up and comer Wright look good in victory, Roma refused to sell Wright's offense, and in fact made it as hard to deliver the offense as possible, while posing at every opportunity. Even at the end, Roma kicked out of the final pinfall, although the ref counted three just to get the damn thing over with. Roma would not only be fired, he would effectively be blackballed from the industry and would go on to appear in American Gladiators.
We'll never know how this would have finally turned out if Pillman had not (1) had a car accident (2) died. Otherwise he would perhaps have got himself fired from WWF and gone back to WCW as the hottest free agent in town and drawn millions for Bischoff.
The touring schedule for the WCW British tour that Sid got fired on is incorrect. He was supposed to compete in Blackburn, Lancashire but got into the altercation with Arn the night before. I was at the Blackburn show. I bought a cheap ticket but the show was so under sold I just went and sat near the front
Amazing in later years how many people WCW fired for getting injured doing their jobs the fact that people were happy enough to sign the contracts though shows they either didn't read it or didn't actually think they would enforce it.
I get it I was fired from TNA when their contract with Viacom to air on spike tv expired in 2014 and proceeded with bellator mma until Aew was announced
12:33 Vince McMahon was never worried that Bret Hart would turn up on Nitro with the WWE Championship for two reasons. One Bret Hart isn’t the sort of person who would do that and two after the lawsuit following the Medusa dropping the WWF Women’s title in the bin on Nitro Eric Bischoff wouldn’t dare do that because WCW would’ve been sued and Eric would’ve been fired!
Um... How have you missed Big Van Vader? WCW's monster (and top) heel fired after a backstage brawl with Paul Orndorff. Even though it was largely Orndorff's fault, Vader was the one who got let go for the WWF to completely fail at putting him over.
With the bret heart firing I blame Vince Russo just like I blame of Bret Hart firing Vince Russo for the Owen Hart death at the time and still to this day with Vince McMahon
Disco Inferno initially fired because he refused to job to a woman. It's my understanding that Sting was the one that tried to resolve the dispute and get WCW and Disco talking. They agreed to rehire him, give him a run as the TV champion, but he still had to lose to Jacqueline.
@@TheChristianCook i know man i remember it to man brett could work with anybody and make them look good but Goldberg just wasnt a wrestler brett was in his prime too
Neither Raven nor the Radicalz were fired. In both cases, management essentially said that they could leave if they wanted to, and management let them go. Raven was sick of how he was being used, while the Radicalz left due to Kevin Sullivan taking over the booking duties from Vince Russo.
Haha, ironic!!, an ad came on before the Sid and Arn Anderson segment and it was a lady trying to open a pack of scissors and she needed scissors to do it. That was weird
How could anyone not realize the syxx and 1+2+3. I mean I was young and yet put it together Rt away even though at the time I didn’t understand the name changes when changing promotions
Justin - I think the Outlaws temporarily joined DX before Michaels left, and then HHH brought them back after X Pac. Do with that what you will. I guess if you throw out Rude, which I basically do, then Pac was the 6th cumulative member.
@@PJErvin they tagged together in 8 man tag matches a couple times but were considered allies only. WWE could have played it up to where he was DX's 6th member if they cared.
The sad truth is that no wrestling promotion could handle The Juicy One, every real wresting fan knows that you cant contain The Juice and all of his juicy juicy glory compared to him every other wrestler is a damn jabroni and he knew it from WCW not just granting him all the titles and the WWE trying to have Paul London win the Cruiserweight Championship (like that's believable at all) all the way to AEW trying to make us believe that somebody like Chris Jericho could beat Juvie shit even the 2nd greatest wrestler of all time The Rock knew that there was no way that could happen almost 15 years before they pulled a screwjob on the Juicy One
Sid VICIOUS! Not Justice. The program, and tour dates are from the earlier tour in 1993 I attended, not the later tour when not only Sid got fired but Davey Boy too.
Davy didn’t get fired he just walked out as he was promised more money on European tours but didn’t get it, he was supposed to be in a feud with Rick rude at time
Bret Hart joining WCW was the beginning of the end for WCW It was clear they had no idea how to use him and really had only one good idea they milked to the end
I would’ve had Hart come out on Nitro and cut a promo saying that he never tapped out and therefore is still WWF champion, and in his 1st match after his no compete clause have him win the WCW title and tout himself as the “undisputed champion” it would have cheapened the WWF Title and elevated the WCW title. However that would’ve meant Hogan dropping the title who didn’t get along with Hart.........
There was also a little matter of Hogan and Nash having enough backstage clout to impact booking and how people were used, and both Hogan and Nash were protective of their spots on the card.
I love how Paul Heyman got the last laugh
Also, it wasn't just fear of WCW repercussion for the Flair and the belt incident from 91 but more poignantly when Medusa showed up on Nitro with the WWF Women's belt and canned it on live tv...
I always feel so terrible for Brett the more I hear about his actual story. Dude deserved to be so much more than he ever got. Truly one of the greatest of all time.
Biggest crybaby in history. Only Punk is almost as whiny
boo hoo
@@matthewlahey2898 Bret held wwf down in 1997 and got done dirty .
@Ray 23 Bret refused to participate in a time honored tradition of dropping the belt before you leave the company. Bret Screwed Bret
@@matthewlahey2898 exactly.
Syxx works on two levels. He was the Sixth member and he was previously the 123 kid, and 1+2+3=6.
This is Steiner level of Maths.
Damn it you beat me to it
@@philipglover3295 sorry
Always wondered where Syxx came from.
cld, I nver thought about that. Touche'
Thanks for explaining how Flair turned up in wwf with the belt. I was really young at the time so had no clue how that came about and after that it just wasn't important but now I know. Cool
Dustin Rhodes 1995 for blading
I find it strange that he gets fired for blading..on a PPV called Uncensored. I guess blood is where they drew the line.
didnt they also fire blacktop bully for blading in the same match 😆
@@outsiderzzzz Yeah, both were fired. The match was stupid anyway, it took place on a moving truck..the hell were they thinking?
@@American-Zero to work out ppppp
Oh jeez that moment.
1 + 2 + 3 = 6 123 Kid isn't a kid anymore and now he adds up. Syxx is one of the Best name changes ever! Waltman is such an awesome wrestler. 🤘🤘
I thought it was because he was the sixth member of the NWO. But, that's cool.
@@stanleys.8224 It was. It's how he was introduced
Then he became X Pac approximately 10 years after breaking into the wrestling business. X is also 10. God waltman is deep
@@Meatman8089 Al thought that would make sense the reason why they called x pac is because hogan use to call him syxx pac so he took the syx off and kept the x because of dx
A big controversially firing few talk about is Sensational Sherry from WCW when she was managing the Harlem Heat. It was sudden, it suprised the Harlem Heat themselves once they heard about it and WCW really gave no explanation about it.
wCw was more entertaining with offscreen shenanigans than the TV wrestling.
Yes
What a great show that would be
Can confirm. Just read (or listen to on Audible) the book Nitro by Guy Evans
Dubya See Dubya...
😂😂
What George Bush Jr. sees in the mirror.
Rasslin'
8:41 Ahh, 2 Cold Scorpio, everyone's favorite peacemaker...
After listening to Jim Cornette, I believe William Regal's account more. Multiple people behind the scene were telling stars something different to the point that, if you did something that a rival wcw booker did, many people would hate you.
Sid was never called Sid Justice in WCW. That was only in his first WWF run. In WCW he was always Sid Vicious.
WCW seemed to have a habit of injuring their wrestlers then firing them.
Regal was so talented, I watched WCW Saturday Night and he was always in there. That show had great wrestling, unlike Nitro which was the NWO run in show
7:49 Sid Justice was Sid's WWF/E name (along with Psycho Sid). He went by Sid Vicious in WCW.
His real first name is Sid, so makes sense why he was able to use it in both.
@@beesly01 What I was saying is that they used his WWE name when talking about his WCW firing when they should have used his WCW name.
Funny ... It seems since 1967, people are telling Flair is past his prime and we still have to suffer him in 2021
Juventud was under the influence of PCP?! Holy shit 😳
Should do more WCW videos 😀👍🏻
They should of used Goldberg being green and Regal as a seasoned veteran to show even Goldberg had a weakness. It’s what they should’ve used to end the streak.
WCW didn't know how to use Regal . The WWE did a lot better with Regal .
Ric Flair going to WWF with the WCW championship helped pave way for the Montreal Screwjob which in turn kicked off the Attitude Era. Thanks Herd!
Vince McMahon October 10, 2005:
All the fans when Stone Cold gave the stunner to the McMahon family
Paul Heyman didn't start ECW, Tod Gordon did. Heyman bought the company from Gordon.
Tod is God
When Heyman took full ownership, it went from Eastern Championship Wrestling to Extreme Championship Wrestling though so... there's that.
it wasn't a chair leg Simon, it was a squeegy. you know the thing that you see at petrol stations to clean your windshields. multiple sources have said that
Another example is Paul Roma, who was fired after sandbagging his match with Alex Wright at Superbrawl 1995. Instead of making the up and comer Wright look good in victory, Roma refused to sell Wright's offense, and in fact made it as hard to deliver the offense as possible, while posing at every opportunity. Even at the end, Roma kicked out of the final pinfall, although the ref counted three just to get the damn thing over with. Roma would not only be fired, he would effectively be blackballed from the industry and would go on to appear in American Gladiators.
Imagine a upcoming industry star doing what Brian Pillman did with WCW, ECW and WWE.
Watching this after William Regal was let go from NXT / WWE.... AWKWARD ;-)
It's scary to hear cause the chaos in wcw in the late 90s sounds a lot like the chaos in WWE today
The fact that Bischoff agreed to the Pillman angle shows that the guy really did want to push the envelope, even if it was a bad idea.
We'll never know how this would have finally turned out if Pillman had not (1) had a car accident (2) died. Otherwise he would perhaps have got himself fired from WWF and gone back to WCW as the hottest free agent in town and drawn millions for Bischoff.
The touring schedule for the WCW British tour that Sid got fired on is incorrect. He was supposed to compete in Blackburn, Lancashire but got into the altercation with Arn the night before. I was at the Blackburn show. I bought a cheap ticket but the show was so under sold I just went and sat near the front
Amazing in later years how many people WCW fired for getting injured doing their jobs the fact that people were happy enough to sign the contracts though shows they either didn't read it or didn't actually think they would enforce it.
Very informative. I heard about these but didn’t know the whole story to a few of them.
2:58 regal looks like cena
Uh what? Lol
He doesn't at all.
I get it I was fired from TNA when their contract with Viacom to air on spike tv expired in 2014 and proceeded with bellator mma until Aew was announced
Pillman was a genius
Great video as usual....just technical note.... C9 and C10 vertebrae don't exist.
They indeed do exist.
Indeed , they do not exist. C1-C7. T1-T12. L1-L5. Then the sacrum and coccyx.
Gotta love those US employment laws. Lol
The background track is often used during break on f4wvideo's twitch stream. Was freaking me out.
The Sid story is outright disgusting. It's a damn miracle that Sid wasn't charged.
Was it ever revealed where that Flair statute ended up?
Yes, Simon Miller will be 27/4 champion
What is this background music
12:33 Vince McMahon was never worried that Bret Hart would turn up on Nitro with the WWE Championship for two reasons. One Bret Hart isn’t the sort of person who would do that and two after the lawsuit following the Medusa dropping the WWF Women’s title in the bin on Nitro Eric Bischoff wouldn’t dare do that because WCW would’ve been sued and Eric would’ve been fired!
Um... How have you missed Big Van Vader? WCW's monster (and top) heel fired after a backstage brawl with Paul Orndorff. Even though it was largely Orndorff's fault, Vader was the one who got let go for the WWF to completely fail at putting him over.
10 Firings that WCW regret.
With the bret heart firing I blame Vince Russo just like I blame of Bret Hart firing Vince Russo for the Owen Hart death at the time and still to this day with Vince McMahon
Good video
0:42 i think you meant to say "why?"
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.
Disco Inferno initially fired because he refused to job to a woman. It's my understanding that Sting was the one that tried to resolve the dispute and get WCW and Disco talking. They agreed to rehire him, give him a run as the TV champion, but he still had to lose to Jacqueline.
Haha Simon 24/7 Champ 😂😂😂!!!
In defense of Jim Herd, Pizza Hut was terrific back in the 80s, and their Italian dressing at the salad bar was grear
Who was the woman wearing the wcw tag team belt around the 4:30 mark?
Judy Bagwell. Buff's mom. Real talk.
These firings probably didn’t affect the size of the roster what was it Jericho said 30 guys would go to tv and 10 would work
#0: Hulk Hogan for failure to communicate.
Lol. That story depends on who you listen to
Does Simon miller ever sleep haha
FIRING on all cylinders - thumbs up, lol!!
Wcw just messed bret harts career just dumb
Goldberg messed him up too🤦🏾♂️
@@TheChristianCook i was at that match to man i hate Goldberg ni werestling bum
I’m sorry you had to witness one of wrestling’s biggest injustices. He really robbed Bret of at least 10 more years.
@@TheChristianCook i know man i remember it to man brett could work with anybody and make them look good but Goldberg just wasnt a wrestler brett was in his prime too
@@TheChristianCook 10? Man he'd still be wrestling today if oldberg hadn't kicked his head off
Jeff Jarrett in 1997, Ultimate Warrior in 1998, Raven in 1999, Radicalz in 2000, Rowdy Roddy Piper 2000, Macho Man 2000
Radicals were not fired. Their contracts ran out.
Neither Raven nor the Radicalz were fired. In both cases, management essentially said that they could leave if they wanted to, and management let them go. Raven was sick of how he was being used, while the Radicalz left due to Kevin Sullivan taking over the booking duties from Vince Russo.
Haha, ironic!!, an ad came on before the Sid and Arn Anderson segment and it was a lady trying to open a pack of scissors and she needed scissors to do it. That was weird
123 Kidd. 1+2+3 = Syxx.
Sid Viscous in WCW. Sid Justice or just Sid in WWE.
That’s how I remember it.
There are no c9 and c10 vertebrae. There are only 7 cervical vertebrae. Love you Simon but you lost me on that one.
George harrison slide guitar for the background music 🎶
Juventud looks like Michael Jackson to me at 0:57
Firing on all cylinders...nice pun Simon
Pcp is one hell of a drug the shits absolutely crazy ive seen its effects first hand many many times
Brett should be #1 What a waste 🤦♂️
Sid was always Sid Vicious in WCW. He was Sid Justice in his first run in WWF. When he returned to WWF for an additional run, he was Psycho Sid.
This list needs a serious update.
Regal ended up back in WCW. A year later….Before, being one of the last wcw jumpers.
Heyman didn’t start ECW. He rejuvenated a dying promotion.
3:08 this aged well.
I want to see the animated version of Sid and Arn scissoring
Good old PCP. God bless the stuff.
guererra looks like a mexican michael jackson
LOL... FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS
There is no such thing as a C-9 or C-10 vertebrae. There is only a T-9 and T-10 vertebrae.
I always wanted to try some PCP...
It's not easy to find.
How could anyone not realize the syxx and 1+2+3. I mean I was young and yet put it together Rt away even though at the time I didn’t understand the name changes when changing promotions
1+2+3(Kid)=Syxx...was how I always heard the name went.
You Vee?
Irrelevant but I remember going to watch wcw in Manchester 1993 lol
2 in 1 day this is best day ever
The lighting kid in wccw
Jules got fired?
Probably being used on their's other channels.
Hey just a head's up...Paul didn't start ECW.
Two lists today? I'll take it
Not only was Syxx the sixth member of the nWo... His precious ring name was the 123 Kid... 1+2+3=6 and 1x2x3 also = 6... Cute eh?
He was almost the 6th member of dx too
Shawn
HHH
Chyna
Rude
X-Pac
@@PurpleLighters basic math there on your list, which is in correct order... 1 shawn 2 hhh 3 Chyna 4 Rude 5 XPac... Sorry man, no points.
Kurt Paulsen - to be fair, he did say almost
Justin - I think the Outlaws temporarily joined DX before Michaels left, and then HHH brought them back after X Pac. Do with that what you will.
I guess if you throw out Rude, which I basically do, then Pac was the 6th cumulative member.
@@PJErvin they tagged together in 8 man tag matches a couple times but were considered allies only. WWE could have played it up to where he was DX's 6th member if they cared.
Uhhh.... there are only 7 vertebrae in the Cervical spine ( no C9-C10)
The sad truth is that no wrestling promotion could handle The Juicy One, every real wresting fan knows that you cant contain The Juice and all of his juicy juicy glory compared to him every other wrestler is a damn jabroni and he knew it from WCW not just granting him all the titles and the WWE trying to have Paul London win the Cruiserweight Championship (like that's believable at all) all the way to AEW trying to make us believe that somebody like Chris Jericho could beat Juvie shit even the 2nd greatest wrestler of all time The Rock knew that there was no way that could happen almost 15 years before they pulled a screwjob on the Juicy One
Wcw fired Sid VICIOUS not Justice. How’d you screw that up
And what a complete waste Bret was in WCW. He had some good matches but his storylines were boring.
ACTUALLY.....
He went by Syxx because 1+2+3 equals Syxx, kid...
Bret hart never recover after the monterial screw job. . . Thats why he feels so bitter
UV?!
Sid VICIOUS! Not Justice. The program, and tour dates are from the earlier tour in 1993 I attended, not the later tour when not only Sid got fired but Davey Boy too.
Davy didn’t get fired he just walked out as he was promised more money on European tours but didn’t get it, he was supposed to be in a feud with Rick rude at time
Wait what culture fired Jules??
Wondered that myself
I think that he is being used on their other channels.
Hoovie was great
Dub cee dub from Simon Miller