That’s so funny that you say that. I was thinking the whole time, did she do something different to her hair, it looks so good. Then I came to the comments and you had already said it. 😂 Guess I’m not the only one who noticed.
Saw you on Peter’s channel yesterday and appreciated the balanced approach and you kept it factual, not emotional. Your childhood park looks like a blast for kids. Looking forward to checking out your content.
Congratulations for more than 70,300 subscribers- well deserved from your hard work!! I love your channel because the content is fascinating & so different from my ancestors that were Amish & spoke Pennsylvania Deutsch ( German). They came to the states in the 1600’s because of religious freedom.
I watched this when it first came out and in all of the comment blogs it said the reason Hyrum was a missionary for so long was because he and Rebecca (Isaiah's wife) had gotten caught making-out. So he had a longer road to prove that he was worthy of a marriage. I don't know if it is true but when you see him and Kelly interacting in the kitchen he tells her she isn't his first kiss and she says she had heard that it definitely seems like that could be the case.
I always wondered how the girl could differentiate a revelation from a crush. Cuz crushes feel REAL. Of course, it needs to be approved, but I also wonder what criteria the brethren use if they disapprove a marriage.
Based on how these communities function, I'd think they'd give anything they can think of as rationale. They have all the power, so it's not like the women would likely fight it.
@@kimstout6419 yes! My question is how does one adult take care of that many children? She had four or five at least in diapers. Between wiping butts and doing laundry, when does Rose find time to mother those kids?
@@cherylcrozier-garcia8862 Well, taking care doesn't mean breast feeding them all. Daycare centers take care of dozens at a time, and like daycares, plural families have help.
@@shirlzitting647 We don't know how she's feeding those kids. She might not be breastfeeding them all, but bottle babies take just as much attention as those on the breast at mealtimes, and how many preschool aged children can actually finish a meal completely unaided? In my state, licensed family day care providers can only take in two unrelated children, specifically because we know keiki need the focus and attention of their elders to grow up healthy. I doubt there is a licensed preschool or day care center out there who has a child to adult ratio of 9 :1. No one adult can properly care for that many children. At best, that level of adult supervision is no more than warehousing or herd management. Rose is undoubtedly a loving; attentive mother but she is unfairly burdened and she and those kids deserve better.
I am everything that religious people disagree with. I am a black male, and I am a total atheist. But this is one very interesting topic that goes on all over the world.
Hey @GrowingUpinPolygamy !. I have released an FLDS Music Project on my youtube channel. I was hoping you could react to a few of them, or make a series where you go through them all!😀
As usual, I love you guys and your take(s) on things, but I do disagree on one thing: life (and parenthood!) is OFTEN a sacrifice and a 'dying to oneself' because of a greater good...think of all who have profoundly disabled children or those who suffer from infertility or a horrific health diagnosis or the death of a spouse or child...the list goes on and on. Heartbreak, yes, absolutely, but SO MUCH GOOD can come of sacrifice. I don't necessarily think you need to pity people who have a 'hard' life, you know? There is still joy to be had. :)
I have heard that teenage boys are sometimes pushed out of polygamist groups and abandoned in a town. Is that true? It was on another video I watched a while back.
I can't speak to other groups, but I've met some of perdition from Bountiful before. I always hear this is a myth, but it's not. I've met them personally.
Interesting topic: feeding a large family with many kids. Sam said sometimes a meal was homemade bread with milk and honey. No harm there. Americans often eat too much.
Ive been thinking a lot and have meant to comment but ive been backwatching all your old videos, i do have an insight as someone from the UK, more rural area of Wales in the valleys, as someone who has not seen any ‘high demand religion’ or as i would say cult, is it because of your guys’ history being in one that you dont like to use the word, for me watching you can tell the discomfort from the both of you when that word is used yet for me it wouldnt take me a second to see the lds and flds as cults as ive never experienced a religion that is so high demanding to the point it can cause real trauma and affect people so much, which has been the case for many who are exmo and exflds. Melissa, you say its a buzzword that people use but the way i see it and im sure many do, if it walks and talks like a duck, its a duck. Just wanted to say aswell that i love you both and your videos im bingeing them as well speak just a thought ive been having and needed to jot down somewhere 😂
A duck? Well, that's why some call them quacks. A religion only becomes traumatic and cultish when its leader catches a revelation bug that unjustly traumatizes people, rather than giving them a chance to grow and develop. Then it becomes a culture cut short: Cult.
I am 50. When I was a kid there were commercials telling people to call this number to get their free New Testament and free Book of Mormon, OR to ask your Mormon neighbor. And there is the choir. I am too old for all this identifying as someone else nonsense and constant rebranding, the also changed the text size on the name tags.. so I will say Mormon. COJCLDS just does not roll off the tongue and besides in another decade or so they will rebrand again.
Emma and kids went back east. The sons continued the Latter Day movement and never had polygamy. She said it didn’t happen. It’s all on BY and I don’t know who died and left him be in charge… he blamed it on the dead guy. No legal widow or legitimate son to back up that story. Just saying.. and it ended soon anyway.
@@JeanneBrown949 Mormon Stories Ep 1617 Part One - and then there is a Part Two. It was done 2 years ago. I’m really excited that you are going to watch it!! Their story is soooo interesting!! :)
I came to see how one man pays for all wives and children then it isn't even about thar]t. You are rambling about people with ]out giving any background. I don't care if you've talked about these people before or not, new comers need some background.
Melissa is giving us all hair goals today!
💯
Right!? She’s seriously getting prettier and younger looking. I wish I knew her secret lol
Thank you so much! ❤️
That’s so funny that you say that. I was thinking the whole time, did she do something different to her hair, it looks so good. Then I came to the comments and you had already said it. 😂 Guess I’m not the only one who noticed.
🎉 beautiful
This couple are SO handsome and charismatic. I love that they are not sensationalizing this, or being victims. Just sharing the info.
Thank you! 😊
Saw you on Peter’s channel yesterday and appreciated the balanced approach and you kept it factual, not emotional. Your childhood park looks like a blast for kids. Looking forward to checking out your content.
Melissa you look prettier and prettier! Your hair looks fantastic!
Thank you so much! 😊 You just made my day
Congratulations for more than 70,300 subscribers- well deserved from your hard work!! I love your channel because the content is fascinating & so different from my ancestors that were Amish & spoke Pennsylvania Deutsch ( German). They came to the states in the 1600’s because of religious freedom.
Thank you! ❤️
Hey Marilyn - I'm also from Amish and Mennonite background!
@@AuntCoke - our ancestors name was spelled Klee in German , is Clay in the USA
@@marilynfdavis891 our family name is Yoder.
I watched this when it first came out and in all of the comment blogs it said the reason Hyrum was a missionary for so long was because he and Rebecca (Isaiah's wife) had gotten caught making-out. So he had a longer road to prove that he was worthy of a marriage. I don't know if it is true but when you see him and Kelly interacting in the kitchen he tells her she isn't his first kiss and she says she had heard that it definitely seems like that could be the case.
It would be so cool to have one of your family members, Sam, join you all on a reaction video.
Melissa…your hair is AMAZING!
I love all the blue with gray, very esthetically appealing.
Sounds like hell. Can't imagine 3 wives getting along, just don't see it happening :)
Hiram is actually such a cool sounding name. I wish it wasn’t so closely tied to the LDS.
I always wondered how the girl could differentiate a revelation from a crush. Cuz crushes feel REAL. Of course, it needs to be approved, but I also wonder what criteria the brethren use if they disapprove a marriage.
Based on how these communities function, I'd think they'd give anything they can think of as rationale. They have all the power, so it's not like the women would likely fight it.
@denise
Yuh, a heart throb or something else.
I can't even handle babysitting for 3 children
Haha
Melissa the hair is looking absolute fire here 🔥
Didn't this family say that Rose Cawley was tending nine children under six? How is that even possible?
The father had 3 wives.
@@kimstout6419 yes! My question is how does one adult take care of that many children? She had four or five at least in diapers. Between wiping butts and doing laundry, when does Rose find time to mother those kids?
@@cherylcrozier-garcia8862
Well, taking care doesn't mean breast feeding them all. Daycare centers take care of dozens at a time, and like daycares, plural families have help.
@@shirlzitting647 We don't know how she's feeding those kids. She might not be breastfeeding them all, but bottle babies take just as much attention as those on the breast at mealtimes, and how many preschool aged children can actually finish a meal completely unaided? In my state, licensed family day care providers can only take in two unrelated children, specifically because we know keiki need the focus and attention of their elders to grow up healthy. I doubt there is a licensed preschool or day care center out there who has a child to adult ratio of 9 :1. No one adult can properly care for that many children. At best, that level of adult supervision is no more than warehousing or herd management. Rose is undoubtedly a loving; attentive mother but she is unfairly burdened and she and those kids deserve better.
I think the young toddlers and preschoolers kindof run wild because there is no way adults can keep up with that sort of parent to child ratio.
It's weird seeing people you know, being talked about by people that don't know them based on a show from over a decade ago...
We would love if there was an updated show!
So neat what happens when you go on tv right?!? Wild.
@@junejune1031 no, usually people stop talking about you a few weeks later.
@@RyanMercer not when they just found you - kinda cool. Think about some shows people still talk about years and years later. 👍
@@RyanMercerhow long ago did Friends end?
What is the title of this show you are watching?
I am everything that religious people disagree with. I am a black male, and I am a total atheist. But this is one very interesting topic that goes on all over the world.
Hey @GrowingUpinPolygamy !. I have released an FLDS Music Project on my youtube channel. I was hoping you could react to a few of them, or make a series where you go through them all!😀
Amazing work!
That sounds interesting to me.
As usual, I love you guys and your take(s) on things, but I do disagree on one thing: life (and parenthood!) is OFTEN a sacrifice and a 'dying to oneself' because of a greater good...think of all who have profoundly disabled children or those who suffer from infertility or a horrific health diagnosis or the death of a spouse or child...the list goes on and on. Heartbreak, yes, absolutely, but SO MUCH GOOD can come of sacrifice. I don't necessarily think you need to pity people who have a 'hard' life, you know? There is still joy to be had. :)
What a great scam... Anything you wanna do can be justified by a revelation!
We were taught “idle hands are the devils work tools “. I am a Jewish immigrant
I have heard that teenage boys are sometimes pushed out of polygamist groups and abandoned in a town. Is that true? It was on another video I watched a while back.
I can't speak to other groups, but I've met some of perdition from Bountiful before. I always hear this is a myth, but it's not. I've met them personally.
Yes they are called The Lost Boys with many of them coming from the Kingston group.
Hahaha growing up as a old fashion Nazarene religion we young people were often warned that “Idle hands were the devils workshop” 😂
Which show was this?
Interesting topic: feeding a large family with many kids. Sam said sometimes a meal was homemade bread with milk and honey. No harm there.
Americans often eat too much.
Homemade bread and honey sounds delicious!
You should interview Ben Brown
what's the name of the show you're reviewing?
Polygamy USA I believe
That s the reason why normally: like in some african places: just the wealthy men r having more than one wife 😂❤
🦋🦋🦋
Ive been thinking a lot and have meant to comment but ive been backwatching all your old videos, i do have an insight as someone from the UK, more rural area of Wales in the valleys, as someone who has not seen any ‘high demand religion’ or as i would say cult, is it because of your guys’ history being in one that you dont like to use the word, for me watching you can tell the discomfort from the both of you when that word is used yet for me it wouldnt take me a second to see the lds and flds as cults as ive never experienced a religion that is so high demanding to the point it can cause real trauma and affect people so much, which has been the case for many who are exmo and exflds. Melissa, you say its a buzzword that people use but the way i see it and im sure many do, if it walks and talks like a duck, its a duck. Just wanted to say aswell that i love you both and your videos im bingeing them as well speak just a thought ive been having and needed to jot down somewhere 😂
A duck? Well, that's why some call them quacks. A religion only becomes traumatic and cultish when its leader catches a revelation bug that unjustly traumatizes people, rather than giving them a chance to grow and develop. Then it becomes a culture cut short: Cult.
I am 50. When I was a kid there were commercials telling people to call this number to get their free New Testament and free Book of Mormon, OR to ask your Mormon neighbor. And there is the choir. I am too old for all this identifying as someone else nonsense and constant rebranding, the also changed the text size on the name tags.. so I will say Mormon. COJCLDS just does not roll off the tongue and besides in another decade or so they will rebrand again.
Well, you could call them the SeeOhJaySeeOhElDeeEss Church, for short.
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Emma and kids went back east. The sons continued the Latter Day movement and never had polygamy. She said it didn’t happen. It’s all on BY and I don’t know who died and left him be in charge… he blamed it on the dead guy. No legal widow or legitimate son to back up that story. Just saying.. and it ended soon anyway.
I wondered if this young man and his wife are still in the religion.
No they are not. They were interviewed on Mormon Stories - check it out! :)
@@jewelgazer Thank you. Do you know how long ago. I’ve been searching and can’t find their interview.
@@JeanneBrown949 Mormon Stories Ep 1617 Part One - and then there is a Part Two. It was done 2 years ago. I’m really excited that you are going to watch it!! Their story is soooo interesting!! :)
The members of the church of Jesus Christ of Idy saints are Mormon their just change name?
I came to see how one man pays for all wives and children then it isn't even about thar]t. You are rambling about people with ]out giving any background. I don't care if you've talked about these people before or not, new comers need some background.