Players Who DID NOT Live Up to the HYPE
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- My list of players who had a tremendous amount of hype, heading into the NBA career... but didn't live up to it.
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Who is a player who you thought would be incredible, but was not??
James wiseman
make a video about giannis antentokumpo future
Zion is number 1 right now. He looked so exciting and bouncy at Duke, but ever since he got in the nba, his dunks aren't as crazy and his game is kind of boring to watch. Thought he would be the new blake griffin, but he isn't even postering like that
@@colewrld901 not trying to be rude but why did u reply to me?
@@Parrel0xI didn't
Ricky Rubio - he was really hyped when he came to the league and although he had some solid seasons, he was never even close to what people projected him to become when he was drafted. Similar to Ball, his shooting just wasn't good enough to be a real threat from outside. His passing is great tho.
If only he believed he was playing the Lakers every game he would've been an excellent shooter.
At least Zo actually started to improve his shooting percentages.
Lonzo developed to be a pretty decent 3pt shooter he just got injured badly
Jabari Parker gotta also be on the next one. I remember when there were some debates if Cleveland should take Wiggins or Parker with the #1 pick
Wiggins made a big rebound on his career going to Golden state, wolves was just a poverty franchise and had the fanbase turn on him. Jimmy (Butler) loved playing wit Andrew but hated playing with KAT, even though Andrew had a few seasons of averaging 20+ in Minnesota they wasn’t using him right compared to golden state, shit was sad asf now he has more rings then the whole Wolves franchise who can barely make the playoffs😭
I’d agree with that. The wolves are like one of the worst franchises as far as squandering talent.
@@EnteiTomei And they passed up on Curry twice, talk about fumbling the ball
from bad #1 to ok #4. big rebound my ass.
@@williamblake7386he was #2 on a championship team, poole isn’t better than him and klay was really bad that year, dray is a glue guy not a scoring option
@@williamblake7386 Some players aren't meant to be team leaders but will thrive as a support All-Star. Take Ray Allen for example. He couldn't do it either until he teamed up with KG and Pierce in Boston.
As a Canadian who was watching the league while Wiggins was drafted, I’d say you’re underselling Wiggins’ hype a bit by comparing it to Tatum. The way Wiggins’ high school tapes circulated the internet combined with how excited we were to have a Canadian potentially be the best player in the league (we called him Maple Jordan 😭), I’d say on this side of the border Wiggins might’ve been as hyped as Zion was in 2019 😂
as a as a as a who cares
Thinking back to the 80s/90s, the names that come to mind are: Jerry Stackhouse, Glenn Robinson, JR Rider, Larry Johnson, and Danny Manning. Some of them had solid careers, but nowhere near living up to the hype.
I think if LJ didn't have the back injuries he had a chance of living up to the hype.
Add Grant Hill. Granted, Grant was actually good when he was not injured.
Excellent point.
Don't forget about one of Glenn Robinson's teammates, Vin Baker
I'd leave Manning and LJ off of that list because they were derailed by injuries and previously had been living up to the hype. Glen Robinson was just in a bad spot. 6 Foot 7 playing center in college, low post power ball like the Shaquille O'Neal of the NCAA because there just were no quality big men that year and his team won the championship. Once he transitioned to small forward and learned an entirely new skill set he turned out to be a good player. JR Rider though....he wasn't that hyped up. He was a bust because he had more talent than hype and just pissed it all away with poor decision making. Getting kicked out of school before college, having to play at a community college that was coached by the son of Jerry Tarkanian. Had that not happened, and had Jerry Tarkanian not been told about Rider through his son, Rider would have drifted into obscurity. Rider was more like the opposite of hype. He just happened to get noticed after his team won the NCAA championship.
Great video. Wembanyama sneakin into the thumbnail had me 🤣🤣🤣
I'll bet you he turns out not to have a great career tho :P
@@user-cn8nu6lq4wHe does seem to be a great player though.
I think Victor gonna be good but I hope he stays healthy
He’s not
@@RandomShowerThoughts the season didn't even start yet. Give him time to develop. He does play for the Spurs after all
So do I. History has shown that isn't likely for guys his size. If he went through the AAU system that all American kids go through I'd say he has almost no chance of staying healthy but he hasn't being a non USA player works in his favor.
@@CrazyxEnigma makes sense. We shall see what the future holds for the young man
I root for the San Antonio spurs so this is a win
if you told an NBA fan on draft night that andrew wiggins would be an all star starter and champion one day, they would've thought that wiggins would be the best player in the NBA.
Brandon Roy and Greg Oden would probably be the biggest what ifs for the trailblazer organisation
Sam Bowie, Bill Walton.
I'm convinced after the way they treated Walton they've been cursed. Just about everything that could go wrong for the Trailblazers over the years have.
Love your content, Jonny, but I’m a bit disappointed you didn’t bring up the fact that Lonzo has put in massive effort to improve his 3-point shot. His first 2 seasons were horrendous, but he shot 37.5% from 3 his first year in New Orleans, 37.8% the next year, and then an insane 42.3% his 1st year with the Bulls
I think it’s definitely worth noting that Lonzo, had the injuries not happened, would almost certainly be an all-star. Not only is he the Bulls’ best 3-point shooter by far, but he was also a great playmaker, and arguably their best defender (or 2nd, behind Alex Caruso)
I literally just posted this too and was surprised.. He was reason Chicago was #1 in East and playing good basketball where moving the ball and great defense. Once Ball and Caruso got hurt it went back to ISO ball and no real hustle and defense.. Hate these damn comparisons like he was supposed to be Curry, he played way better defense....
@@Bigedub101he was a better prospect than curry, the problem os he wasn't agressive, when he was he was great.. he came INTO the league as a top 10 passer and perimeter defender... He just never took that leap...
Yeah...... but he was supposed to be better than Steph and Magic, a transcending player in the league
Hey... It was REALLY unfair to Harold Miner for them to put MJ expectations on him... I think that kinda of pressure may have contributed to him not having the career he should've had
It was that nickname, Baby Jordan, that did it. Even back then, people were making fun of that because everyone in the league knew that he was a marginal talent.
Thank you Jonny!
Perfect timing upload for me 😂
I'm gonna add Derrick Coleman to this list. Dude was good, even an All-Star, but he had all the tools, talent, and potential to be great. He never fully fulfilled that potential and was honestly disappointing considering just how truly talented he was.
Derrick does come to mind. He was very gifted talent entering the league.
Ben Simmons can probably be put in this category. Despite any success he may have had so far in his career, I think most expected a bit more from him and certainly did not foresee his recent regression being a possibility.
he’s 27 lmao. let the man get halfway through his career first.
@@ChadBeetleSimmons is the first name I thought of.
He still young. He can get off that list if he put up 20 plus the rest of his career. He on it right now but he has a shot to escape that list 😅
@@ChadBeetlelol. 27 is halfway.
That's your prime year
Ill give you one, remember Sebastian Telfair? He had crazy hype coming into the league
Just want to say how much I appreciate your analytical thoughts and presentations Jonny. You are excellent!
I'll add one from just from recently:Zion Williamson. He's young and has been suffering from some injuries and his career is also young. But he's been over hyped since college and hasn't really put it together as of yet. Although there's lotsa time left.
Also I think it's next to impossible for any of these athletes to have "The next ......" label to be thrown on them and actually live up to those expectations, regardless of the sport. Especially when they're not the ones saying "I'm the next...Jordan, LeBron, Pele, Gretzky, Brady, etc"
ONE SEVENTY ONE!!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Marvin Bagley, Jabari Parker, Nerlens Noel, Jahlil Okafor, Mo Bamba, and James Wiseman are the names I could come up with in recent memory. I noticed all of them are bigs too.
Okafor was so ass. Huge bust.
Hot take - a healthy Lonzo would've developed into one of the best guards in the NBA.
His shooting came along to a point he was a genuinely elite 3 point shooter, his passing was still some of the best in the league, and he was also becoming an elite defender. I think there's a world where a healthy Lonzo is averaging like 20/10/5 on good efficiency and all-defensive team level defence.
Not one of the best. Just a pretty good guard. He's 6 foot 6 with a 44 inch vertical and almost NEVER attacked the rim. His ability to make layups with any amount of contact was poor, and one thing about Lonzo that gets overlooked is that he has no isolation dribble ability. He can't shake people and get to the rim. No sizeup game to speak of. Every move that he makes is to create space and step back. That's why he steps back. Because he can't get to the hoop. I like that he's worked on his shot and developed an outside game, but if you can't cash in on your 3 point game to open up scoring opportunities inside the 3 point line, teams will just go over the top on screens, and step back 3's are not good shots. Lonzo is a great defender, he's a great passer in the open court, his open court passing reputation makes his half court passing over rated because he's just above average. With such limited ability to create offense for himself as a primary ball handler he can never (IMO) reach the ceiling that you speak of.
@@Davivd2 See, I specifically said I believe he would DEVELOP into the type of player I mentioned. I don't disagree with anything you said, but fact is - he was already a pretty good guard, so there was no necessity for him to develop into that. Lonzo went from one of the most tragic 3 point shooters in the league into a genuinely reliable threat from deep. It is my belief that in that Chicago system where they seemed to be capable of elite defence, he could've got all-defence nods, and I also believe the other parts of his game such as paint penetration could've improved too. Lonzo is only 25 man, there's no telling what other parts of his game he could've unlocked if he remained healthy.
no.
He was descent.
Had to do wayyy more before becoming a all-star though
As you show at the end, Sam Bowie. Other names :
The Duke guys Christian Laettner&Bobby Hurley :
-Laettner : 2 NCAA Championships back-to-back and a lost final, many individual awards, he was a modern stretch four with almost 50% at 3pt, with many clutches performances, regarded as one of the best in NCAA History, selected to be the College guy in the 1992 Dream Team insted of somme great players as Shaq or Webber. In his early carreer wasn's so bad, but far below experctations to be a franchise player or even a NBA legend.
-Hurley : as Laettner, 2 championships and a final, individual awards and clutch performances, he was also NCAA assist leader, member of the college selection who beat the dream team, it is said that he overcame Magic Johnson during the game and revealed-exploited some of his defensive weaknesses against smaller guards. So good expectations, but a tragic car crash broke his career.
-Ed O'Bannon, NCAA Champ with individual trophies, Toronto's Fans wanted him insted of Stoudamire. He didn't confirm at all and Stoudamire was rookie of the Year.
-Michael Olowokandi, Supposed to be the next Shaq.
-Other names I remember : DaJuan Wagner, Kwame Brown.
I'd include Jabari Parker. One of the best high school players ever, great player at Duke, but disappeared in the NBA.
Lonzo's hype was stupid. It's not his fault LA selected him #2 overall.
He was definitely a good prospect. Yes he struggled from 3 his rookie year, but he got better every year and in Chicago he hit around 40% well above league avg.
- IF not for knee injuries, his haters were close to having to eat their words.
LaVar hyped up his kids and it worked. Magic had his eye on Fox before he hype train on Lonzo made it's waves through. I'd have loved to see Lonzo stay healthy and grow, he could've been as good as Kidd imo.
1:50 - "It became personal with me"
Sean Bradley was drafted over Penny Hardaway and Jamal Mashburn. Some in Philly (media) projected him to be the next Wilt Chamberlain…😂😂😂
Absolutely. One of the most overhyped players ever.
Poor Harold Miner. He's the first guy I thought of when I clicked this vid.
Decent chance he coulda been good if the Baby Jordan thing hadn't messed with him psychologically and he'd been given some breathing room. Plus Jordan probably... let's be honest, took it personally. 24? Damn.
I still have a 95-96 Electric Court Gold of him from a pack as a kid.. always though ECG was funny given his last name.
Can you do a video on players that came out of no where and became stars
Definitely don’t feel that Greg Oden should be on here. He was the real deal, but it’s not his fault that his body failed him.
Are you using a new Mic?
Great Video as Always
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Raymond Felton, Shelden Williams, Josh Jackson, Rodney Stuckey, Darius Miles, Jason Williams, Enes Kanter, Dion Waiters, Jonathan Isaac, and Dennis Smith Jr. are the players that come to my mind when discussing this subject.
We are talking about overhyped players
Idk if he counts but I'd say Vince Carter. Imo he left a lot of food on the plate... Like Goat level potential.
He underachieved, but I’d say he had a pretty good career for himself.
Vince Carter underachieved but he was still a multi time all star and all NBA caliber player at his peak. He also got hit with the injury bug pretty early in his career. If VC is considered a bust than by that logic guys like Grant Hill, Larry Johnson, Penny Hardaway and Derrick Rose are too.
@@CrazyxEnigma injuries didn't derail his career tho his attitude was the issue. He was still dunking with ease on his way out. The reply was to answer the question of who didn't live up to the hype and VC was one of those players who drew MJ comparisons..I could be reaching because reached some of his hype but he could be a top 10 all time type of a guy and I don't believe he even made top 75 to my knowledge so he failed pretty hard to meet his hype imo despite his mediocre level of success
There was a short period of time in the late 90s, where not Kobe but Vince Carter was considered the next MJ and TMac was only his sidekick in Toronto. Carter had a solid career, but he did not live up to the hype.
@@_TheGlockSaint_ exactly!
Damn, the Spurs have been getting all the very good and potential hall of fame players for close to 2 decades already now.
They had David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Kwaii Leonard, and now that very tall kid Victor Wembanyama.
They are a very blessed big man team.
They also had very good players of other positions like Sean Elliott, Tony Parker, Manu Genobli, Bruce Bowen and few others.
The Spurs know how to tank, and probably know how to get the commissioner to make sure those ping pong balls that are done behind closed doors to fall just the right way.
@@Davivd2 yeah it seems like that.
being surrounded by devin vassel, keldon johnson and tre jones could build a dynasty
@@SISKCERTWaJaVlogs Yeah, they very well could if management moves smart too as well.
They haven't been good for a decade now
Johnny’s voice like this is better
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Zion for me. Not only can he not stay healthy, but his game isnt nearly as explosive and exciting in the nba, as it was at duke. He doesn't get alot of poster dunks, like i thought he would
Ur right about the injuries but ur tripping about the rest
Injuried part is valid but the rest you trippin, they was the number one seed b4 he got hurt last year and in the 2020-21 season he was going crazy
@set5663 not really. Look at high school zion and Duke zion and all the insane freakish dunks and posters he was getting every game and compare it to nba zion. He's an amazing finisher, but he isn't head above the rim ferocious like he was a couple years ago.
@@yoitsSmitty2004didn't say he didn't impact winning. He's a great player, I'm talking about his actual game. He plays like a hyper athletic zach randolf minus the jumpshot
The last part... What are you even talking about??
Adam Morrison..tyler Hansbrough. Bobby hurley..
Mike Korzemba is never gonna live down that bit about Steph Curry. lol
High school Wiggins really did look like the next Kobe. Still one of the best hs mixtapes ever.
For me it was OJ Mayo- I bought into the hype in the mid 2000s and still have a #32 Trojans jersey in my closet today
In a few years Webby and Chet Holmgren will be on this list.
nah only the latter will be. he already missed one season before even playing in the NBA due to injury
I remember the Wiggins hype😂
Breakfast and Lunch... Mr. OJ Mayo.
Yo, that Lonzo thing ain't even fair. The last time he played he was shooting 40 from 3. He's one of the great passers in the league, and had he been healthy he would've been all defensive first team last year instead of his teammate Caruso.
You should change your intro highlight reel once in awhile for the shock value
Wiggins is a good player, he just didn’t perform to his draft selection. But he’s a good player with an all star appearance, a ring, and a few 20 ppg seasons
I’m not a fan of any specific team but I have a soft spot for the Timberwolves. To me Kris Dunn and Jarrett Culver seemed like generational talents coming into the league… So sad they didn’t.
Another name I have in mind is Frank Ntilikina, being a European kid he was one I looked at like, woah, this guy’s gonna be good there. Same with Mario Hezonja. Another one, though not European: Justise Winslow
for comments saying Wiggins should not be here, for me, him and Chandler should be in here.
Both as na NBA Players bounced back but as compare to their draft #, they underperformed.
Unless Wiggins could be GSW #2 for years to come.
Agreed some people think bust should only refer to players drafted high who were awful but that isn't the case. Not living up to expectations is still included even when those players have solid careers.
Wiggins was the GSW number 2 from 2020-22 although Poole was getting his
The problem is the hype itself. I remember saying that Zion's potential was that of Blake Griffin and everyone said I was a hater... I was praying on his downfall by predicting Zion would be an injury prone player😅 🤕😂
wtf? that’s weird bro
Why would you ever wish injuries on a player? Karma is going to come back around on you.
Guys I don’t think that’s what he meant 😂
This comment started off good but then went immediately downhill. You should've just stopped at the first sentence
Put down the voodoo doll.
Jerry Stackhouse... insanely hyped, turned out to be kind of trash. Ben Simmons.
Damon Stoudamire, Antoine Walker, Joe Smith, Marcus Camby.
My NFL team is 0-6 so I'm done with them this season. Looking foward for the NBA to start.
Carolina with the #1 pick in the NFL 2024 draft, oh wait going to Chicago
Jabari Parker
Zion Williamson
Jimmer Fredette
Sebastian Telfair
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I remember Isaiah Rider was hyped to be Jordanisque but that didn't play out.
Markelle Fultz, Ben Simmons, Evan Turner. All Philly 😅
Lonzo dad hyped him up but lonzo started balling in Chicago. Like if anything he the mvp of that team. Soon as he got injured it was down hill. When they had him they were like number 1. He got better with shooting mostly. Especially whn lamelo came to the league.
I remember Charles Barkely having a commercial making fun of basketball nicknames, and "Baby Jordan" was among his targets.
Truth be told, Miner was NEVER really considered the next Jordan. He got a little bit of hype by winning the dunk content, but the nickname was immediately a joke around the league. And despite what the video says, Jordan had just turned 30 and on his way to winning his third straight title at the time. So they weren't exactly looking to turn the page yet (little did any of us know Jordan was about to temporarily retire and play baseball).
Big dog would've made the finals had the Bucks not been robbed in ECF. The Bucks were also undefeated against the Lake show that year.
It's still too early for Lonzo. I still have hope. As a Timberwolves fan, don't remind me about Beasley, and there are 2 Wolves examples.... Also, it's no coincidence that the majority of the "most hyped" rookies have happened in the last 15 years, which parallels technology, computers, and social media perfectly.
In hindsight I feel bad because when Lonzo started choking so bad I was partly glad because his dad is such a joke and I loved seeing all of his hype and BS blow up in his face.
The truth is, it's tough for me to remember the players who didn't live up the hype because since they didn't live up to the hype, they were forgotten as quickly (or more so) as they popped up.
0:52 😊
Hey jonny, don't know if you got a new mic or fell sick but you sound different
Get well if you are indeed sick
Sprewell, Stackhouse, & Ricky Rubio
Michael Beasley came into the league playing 2/3, and he's one of the greatest scorers of all time. He wasn't given the opportunity to succeed.
Did you know that despite being in the same draft class as Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic, and Zach LaVine, Andrew Wiggins STILL has the most career points of any player in the 2014 draft?
Wemby catching strays being in that thumbnail 💀
Ben Simmons.
Victor on the thumbnail is crazy 💀
I remembered watching Lonzo highlights from his junior season in Chino Hills. To me, he wasn't going to be a superstar, even with that hype. At best i thought he will ended up being a 70% Nash/Kidd version, but that's not a superstar to me, but a really great 3 option in a championship team.
I share your sentiment. My initial projection of Lonzo was that of a serviceable starter or really good player. I was astounded with the hype his fans placed on him when he entered the league.
Danny Ferry
Christian Laettner
Walt "the Wizard" Williams (Maryland)
The point guard from Duke, early 1990's that had the motorcycle accident in the Summer Off-season, busted up his leg real bad... BOBBY HURLEY! (No one talks about him anymore, his father a prostegious basketball coach for high school and small college programs)...
Hakim Warrick
Stromile Swift
O.J. Mayo
Jay Williams (another Duke point guard, NBA analyst today)
Andrew Wiggins redeemed himself playing a major role in helping the Warriors capture the 2022 NBA Title🏆
There was a lot of serious hype surrounding Tim Hardaway Jr because of his famous Senior father, being drafted by the media attractive N.Y. Knicks...
Hardaway Jr may redeem himself somewheres down the road if he can get healthy for the Dallas Mavericks, he may be a piece in helping them secure 1 or 2 more Championships near future....
Len Bias. He literally did not live up to the hype.
But seriously, Andrea Bargnani. He had some decent seasons but was not worth a 1st overall pick. My memory is a bit fuzzy on how much hype he had when he came into the league though.
I'm not gonna lie bro, I've never agreed with one of your videos less
Miami LeBron. Guy claimed they would get 7 championship and only got 2. Amazing run, but he didn't even get to 30% of what he said.
What happened to your mic? :X
New mic?
Harold Miner was drafted 12th overall. I don’t really expect to have much expectations for him tbh. If he was a top 5 pick, that would be different
One of several players who was labeled “the next Michael Jordan”.
Michael Jordan was drafted No.3 bro. That’s not a realistic thing to be labeled “the next Michael Jordan”. Teams didn’t even believe that given he was drafted No.12
@@LJChibuezeIt was totally unrealistic.
But as he said in the video, the media was trying to find the next MJ for the period when he retired.
And Miner’s case might be one of the worst reaches.
Lonzo really didn’t deserve the hype, he was set up to not meet expectations because his dad was crazy
I don't wanna be THAT GUY, considering how I remember it, it was like 55-45, ...but I was all about Durant over Oden that year.
Now dont get me wrong. Im 46, so im old school--- I thought oden was gonna be a beast, and I always make sure I draft him in 2K (errr, --and I put his durability up lol), but I remember being in thr caf at st johns like arguing with my boys, "how can u not take the athletic 7ft freak who scores like Kobe, come onnnnnn..."
I also remember saying "we will NEVER see another tall coordinated athletic scorer like him"
And, uhh what, Giannid, Embiid, jokic, wemby, chet all fighting for thr rights to say HOLD MY BEER ...lol
I think Baby Jordan was enough of an example. Dude's number of NBA seasons only equalled LeBron's current ring count.
Ay what happened to the audio?
Sad for Lonzo... 😢
I am so upset about Lonzo’s injuries
I could make a list of 50 players... Some other day
Injuries shouldn't count against a player for not living up to the hype.
lonzo was HIM in high school and ucla
How about Christian Laettner?
Bol Bol and the Ball brothers
If I had to pick between James WIseman and Bol Bol, I take Bol Bol. Wiseman was drafted number 2 and Bol was mid second round. One guy landed where he should have, the other was WAY over rated.
MJ pretty much came out of nowhere. By that I mean nobody expected him to be what he bacame. LeBron had hype on him coming out, and he has lived up to it. But the next "one" will be a surprise imo
I know this guy doesn't really belongs here, but man, Brandon Roy was supposed to be one of the greats.
I would put Jonathan Isaac on the list because all he’s done since he’s been in the league is get injured.
Jabari Parker, Sebastian Telfare,
LaMelo Ball for me. I always thought he would be “alright” and in hindsight I was generous
Melo is a potential all star and averaged 20ppg for like the past 2 seasons now
I think you are talking about the third Ball. Liangallo.
@@Davivd2 no I’m talking about LaMelo. Every day someone posted that video of him in high school calling his shot from half court. I can only see so much meat riding and still be a fan
Booker and tatum are similar highroller coasters
I wanted the Lakers to draft Fox over Ball.
I agree
Not sure who really believed the ESPN Daddy Lavar Ball hype for his son as an all time great? He is decent player, no one thought he would be THAT good. As for Wiggins, Warriors won a title with him starting as a SF on the team, so Cavs got a ring with Love, Warriors got one with Wiggins, also Wiggins as of writing this is in his prime where Love is an older bench player with more limited minutes. Wiggins is not an all time great, but he is currently a solid starter on a contending NBA team.
Magic did.
Whatever happened to that Lebrian James kid from Ohio. He was on magazines and stuff. You never hear about him anymore.
wemby is already top 25 oat
Vince Carter should have achieved way more than what he did
I wouldn't trust levar ball's hype of his barber
Ben mclemore, Beasley, and Rudy gay. Rudy had a good career but he had real star potential that just never materialized.