Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? - Part Two: The Explanation

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  • @collegepennsylvania837
    @collegepennsylvania837 2 роки тому +28

    “He was despised and rejected- a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.”
    ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:3-12‬ ‭NLT‬‬
    "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
    God loves you so much and showed that by sending His Son to die for us so that we may inherit eternal life. We deserve hell but He gave us heaven through faith in Jesus. He took the punishment we deserved and by putting our faith in Him we can be saved. The Key To Eternal Life:
    ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
    For evidence for Christianity check out
    ua-cam.com/users/drcraigvideos
    and ua-cam.com/users/CrossExamined
    because if Jesus really rose from the dead it is the most important fact ever!
    God bless y’all!

  • @Y-AR
    @Y-AR Рік тому +16

    The first, second and third theory are improbable considering the fact that, NKJV - Matthew 27:66
    "So, they went and made the tomb secure, sealing the stone and setting the guard." the tomb is guarded and sealed. The Roman soldiers would 1) must have fallen asleep on duty or 2) let the disciples or anyone to remove the body from the tomb, in order for this theory to be plausible. But Roman Soldiers will be punished themselves if they didn't do their job right.
    The hallucination theory is also very unlikely to be true because if the body is not removed from the tomb, the resurrection is not possible, and the given reason is very logical, how can a group of people all hallucinate the same thing/event with unbelievers included as well.

    • @Christisthetruce
      @Christisthetruce Місяць тому

      The hallucinations theory falls short when you read about Paul who persecuted Christians and was devout Jew suddenly becoming one and suffering for his faith after he meet the risen Christ

  • @Johnny.G.
    @Johnny.G. 2 місяці тому +3

    I think a 5th one would be the mere fact everyone came up with the 4 objections.. thry so hard to disprove it, because it is so overwhelmingly compelling they try to hide from it any eay they can. If you really didnt believe, you would go so hard to try and make excuses not to believe.

  • @_litornado
    @_litornado 2 роки тому +33

    W video... Amen all facts

  • @cuijianan3
    @cuijianan3 2 роки тому +3

    What's the name of the ending song? I like it so much.

  • @pal-tv
    @pal-tv 3 місяці тому +1

    This serie is so great and convincing. May I use this video for a Vietnamese version ? Please ?

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  3 місяці тому

      Please send your request to chapters@reasonablefaith.org. - RF Admin

  • @cuijianan3
    @cuijianan3 2 роки тому +1

    想知道视频末尾的音乐是什么?觉得好好听!

  • @savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394
    @savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394 2 роки тому +9

    praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝️✝️✝️

  • @Kittensarevicious
    @Kittensarevicious Місяць тому

    I agree. Well done video.

  • @KONine-ls5bw
    @KONine-ls5bw Рік тому +2

    He indeed rises

  • @deepaktripathi4417
    @deepaktripathi4417 6 місяців тому +1

    Wish I could go back in time, I would make it crystal clear.

  • @amial8782
    @amial8782 4 місяці тому

    Verey nice video ❤

  • @kimbanton4398
    @kimbanton4398 2 місяці тому

    Wait, why did you entirely skip the Legend hypothesis and only focused on the other 4 ones who nobody espouses? Is it maybe, because the Legend hypothesis is actually the strongest and most common argument against the resurrection, i.e. that the story of the resurrection was orally embellished with time far after Jesus' actual crucifixion date?

    • @Christisthetruce
      @Christisthetruce Місяць тому

      No because the letters of Paul which were the earliest Christ writings mentioned the ressrection 😂

    • @Christisthetruce
      @Christisthetruce Місяць тому

      about 48 ad to be exact and to a legend to be formed you need atleast a generation because you would need all the people who were alive at the same time at Jesus to die so none of them can disprove your claims

    • @kimbanton4398
      @kimbanton4398 Місяць тому

      @@Christisthetruce Yes, but even those were written about 20 years after the crucifixion and they don't mention any other of the specific details about Jesus's supposed life and ministry in his active years prior to his death. Only the gospels do that and they were written from about 30 years after Jesus's crucifixion to about 60 years after, and the ones written later suspiciously having more & more details about Jesus's works and also being more and more explicit about his divinity.
      Not really that different from stories that get embellished over time and more legendary...
      *"about 48 ad to be exact"*
      That's the earliest estimate. Latest estimate being at 64 AC, so I take 20 years later as the average.
      *"and to a legend to be formed you need atleast a generation because you would need all the people who were alive at the same time at Jesus to die so none of them can disprove your claims"*
      Well, given that Paul's letters don't really offer any insights into Jesus's personal life & his works, but rather focus on his message & theological teachings, they are irrelevant to the question of whether the story of Jesus's doings & mission is legendary. I mean, how could they know, if Paul never met Jesus personally, but only once in a miraculous event...?
      And given that the earliest date for the gospel of Mark (which is the earliest of the 4 gospels) is at 60 AC, that would have been about 27 years, which is about one whole generation later. And you also have to consider that the gospel of Mark didn't have as many miraculous elements in it as the later gospels (e.g. virgin birth, being born in Bethlehem but raised in Nazareth and so on). So his story was definitely altered over time with more and more mythological elements. And this was in a time where the majority of working class people were illiterate and passed on information by word & illustrations. And the 4 gospels even contradict with each other on the sequence of events that happened between Jesus's resurrection & his (literal) ascension to Heaven.

    • @Christisthetruce
      @Christisthetruce Місяць тому

      @kimbanton4398 what😭 how is 27 Year a whole generation later? A generation is literally 100 years and the paul letters don't mention Jesus's life because that's not their purpose it's a letter to the chruchs of the time and ita not a documentary I'm just saying that paul mentions the ressrection many times therfore it was not forged and he does say that Jesus will comeback an judge the world which Means he know he assended and my original point is that people who witnessed Jesus because they would be alive at that point would have disproven the ressrection that the apostles clamoed and would nudge it right their and ther and can you pls give me the bible verse where the gospels "comtradict" each other on the ressrection?

  • @scaramouche1740
    @scaramouche1740 3 місяці тому

    I just feel lucky of being born after Jesuschrist, when Bible is available translated to read directly. I feel so happy and lucky and that is a fact❤

  • @saintanthonyofpadua290
    @saintanthonyofpadua290 Рік тому

    amen

  • @nsp74
    @nsp74 Рік тому +3

    His resurrection is true period.
    תחייתו היא תקופה נכונה

  • @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
    @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634 Рік тому

    Wao

  • @pixboi
    @pixboi 2 роки тому +5

    What if Jesus had a hidden identical twin?

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  2 роки тому +20

      Possibilities come cheaply and there's simply no good reason to think that the probability that the resurrection is explained by a hidden identical twin (for which there's absolutely no evidence) outweighs the probability for the hypothesis that God raised Jesus from the dead, which is highly plausible given the evidence and the theological context of Jesus' life and ministry. - RF Admin

    • @pixboi
      @pixboi 2 роки тому +2

      @@drcraigvideos thanks for reply. Is there any good book, sort of all in one historical account, that is not the new testament. Still sort of agnostic, but inspired by this channel I began to read the new testament yesterday. I noticed that Jesus in the start talks about hell and punishment, where gentiles go and what not., what was the reason that changed that to the narrative of forgiveness? Is that shift explained somewhere.

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  2 роки тому +11

      @@pixboi We recommend that you first come to an informed view of whether or not the resurrection of Jesus actually occurred, since that is more fundamental to the Christian faith than understanding topics like the one you've raised. Dr. Craig has an excellent short book on the resurrection called The Son Rises. - RF Admin

    • @alparkes6084
      @alparkes6084 2 роки тому +10

      How could an identical twin be hidden for 30 years? And why would that twin want to perpetrate a fraud like this? And what happened to that identical twin after the initial appearances? If he still roamed the earth, the accounts of Jesus ascending to heaven would have been disproven immediately.

    • @pixboi
      @pixboi 2 роки тому +2

      @@alparkes6084 that is true.

  • @brisadelcastillo2840
    @brisadelcastillo2840 Рік тому

    God made a memorial to the crucifixion and resurrection on day five. Look up "THE CRUCIFIX FISH - WHAT THE CRUCIFIX FISH REVEALS"

  • @stevewilliams3850
    @stevewilliams3850 Рік тому +4

    The Shroud of Turin proves Jesus rose from the dead.

  • @jquest99
    @jquest99 Рік тому +6

    LOVE these strawman arguments. This video DEFINITELY puts up a strong argument against these strawman theories!

  • @gow588
    @gow588 Рік тому

    St*

  • @robertkily3878
    @robertkily3878 Рік тому +1

    All lies Jesus never died on the cross. He never went to Hell 1peter3:18-20.

    • @kenandzafic3948
      @kenandzafic3948 Рік тому +4

      Of course he died on the cross, that is an indisputable historical fact.

  • @ttecnotut
    @ttecnotut Рік тому +1

    Maybe Jesus’ body wasn’t moved to a criminal graveyard, but to his family graveyards.
    Maybe Joseph of Arimathea wasn’t the person who moved Jesus body.
    And if Joseph of Arimathea, did move the body, maybe he didn’t know disciples had visions and couldn’t correct them. Maybe he choose not to correct them because he believed that they did in fact have a vision. Or maybe he tried to correct their beliefs and no one believe him.
    The moving the body could have triggered a couple of followers of visions of Jesus, which happens everyday to people, especially since they already believed he was God way before he died.

    • @Samu-xc2tc
      @Samu-xc2tc Рік тому +3

      They really would believe that Jesus is God after saw him tortured, ashamed, crucified and, specially, died?

    • @ttecnotut
      @ttecnotut Рік тому

      @@Samu-xc2tc if they believed he was god before his death? Yes. And if his body “disappeared”, then yes.

    • @Samu-xc2tc
      @Samu-xc2tc Рік тому

      @@ttecnotut Maybe I was not clear. Why do you think that is logic that the disciples maintain their Jesus' beliefs after saw him in the condition that I describe previously?

    • @ttecnotut
      @ttecnotut Рік тому

      @@Samu-xc2tc apocalyptic Jews believed a body could be resurrected. The missing body triggered visions of Jesus. Today, visions have a negative connotation. But not 2.000 years ago. All of this is infinitely more plausible than a man actually returning from the dead.

    • @moshetzur7327
      @moshetzur7327 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ttecnotut might be true if it was one or 2 person who had vision, but more than 5000 people saw him at once, then all of them had the same vision is plausible?
      also, it could not have been a vision because Jesus is described as eating with them, and encourging thomas, to plush his fingernails in his *flesh* so he was human, not a ghost.
      no amount of evidence will convince those who do not want to be convinced. but if you read the whole text you will see that what your suggesting is less plausible than his ressurection.

  • @markharc7615
    @markharc7615 Рік тому +2

    Let me help- hundreds of people have reported seeing Elvis. End of story.

    • @benjaminavendano2099
      @benjaminavendano2099 Рік тому +11

      Yeah but his tomb is not empty….

    • @markharc7615
      @markharc7615 Рік тому +1

      @@benjaminavendano2099 There is no actual verification of where the Jesus tomb was or if it even existed in the first place. And the empty tomb also wasn't verified by any independent sources. The gospel writers wrote in Greek speaking areas FAR away from where the events supposedly occurred. Paul also never mentions an empty tomb and you would think he would have known where it was.
      The reality is most crucified criminals were left to rot on their wooden stake to warn other would-be trouble makers to not do it. Just like when they used to gibbet criminals in England.

    • @unsightedmetal6857
      @unsightedmetal6857 Рік тому +4

      @@markharc7615 "The gospel writers wrote in Greek speaking areas FAR away from where the events supposedly occurred"
      What is your source? I've seen the contrary: that the gospel writers had to be nearby the events because of their accuracy about local geography (Luke in particular). Additionally, the names in the gospels almost exactly fit the proportional distribution of known names in that time. Something that would be insanely difficult and near-impossible to get correct if you lived far away and were making up stuff.
      Paul doesn't mention an empty tomb explicitly, but one can very easily infer it, even if one has no knowledge of Christianity:
      "...that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day..." (1 Corinthians 15:4)
      If someone was buried, was raised, and appeared to many people as Paul wrote, then what other explanation is there than that his grave was empty?

    • @markharc7615
      @markharc7615 Рік тому

      @@unsightedmetal6857 Directly off Wiki-"Most biblical scholars adhere to the view that the Greek text of the New Testament is the original version."
      There are no written accoutns from actual followers of Jesus. Whether the gospel of Mark had some input from Peter is debatable but I won't discount it entirely.
      Also, they were definitely written by someone with a deep knowledge of the Greek Odyssey saga because they copy themes and sections from that work to make their "Jesus" character a hero.
      So we can safely assume these were people taking oral myths and legends about Jesus (and probably other people like John the Baptist and other failed Messiahs like Jesus, which there were quite a few to choose from, Jesus wasn't unique at all).
      Then they set their myth up in an actual place and put in other actual place names and a few historical figure like Pilate.

    • @unsightedmetal6857
      @unsightedmetal6857 Рік тому +4

      @@markharc7615 " ...they were definitely written by someone with a deep knowledge of the Greek Odyssey saga because they copy themes and sections from that work to make their "Jesus" character a hero."
      I just went down a rabbit hole from that sentence. I found out about Dennis MacDonald who is the first person to bring up such a correlation.
      1. Why would it take nearly 2000 years for this correlation to be made when both texts are very well-known? That's an *insanely* long time.
      2. Wikipedia says "MacDonald's thesis has not found acceptance and has received strong criticism by other scholars"
      3. Another quote from Wikipedia: "Adam Winn, though adopting MacDonald's methods of mimetic criticism, concluded after a detailed analysis of MacDonald's theses and comparisons between Homer and Mark that "MacDonald is unable to provide a single example of clear and obvious Markan interpretation of Homer... because MacDonald's evidence is at best suggestive, it will ultimately convince few.""
      4. Assuming that Mark was inspired by Homer, there still has to be an explanation for Paul's conversion, his letters, Mentions of Jesus in documents that are accepted as historical, and the rapid spread of Christianity.

  • @SexyEarHole
    @SexyEarHole Рік тому

    Totally unconvincing.

  • @johnkelly7825
    @johnkelly7825 2 роки тому +5

    Personally I think it's a lot of BS

    • @unknown_individual7050
      @unknown_individual7050 2 роки тому +4

      You share the thoughts of many others as well. It's very difficult to believe when the "facts" of the case come from synoptic gospels in the same Bible compiled by the Church.

    • @alexhernandez2367
      @alexhernandez2367 Рік тому +4

      I don't know the specifics of how many historians came to the conclusion that Jesus existed, was crucified, his tomb was empty, that there were appearances of Jesus alive after his death, and that the disciples had a belief that Jesus rose from the dead. But many well respected and professional historians accept these claims as facts that it gives these claims more credibility.
      Of course Christian scholars believe in these facts but there are many well respected and professional historians that believe in them as well. The following is a list of accredited New Testament scholars who are either atheists, lack belief in God, or non-Christians who affirm the existence of Jesus beyond any doubt.
      They have no invested interested in Christianity, they deny that Jesus is the Son of God, they don’t think Jesus was divine in any way, and they deny that Jesus rose from the dead. They are just atheistic or agnostic scholars of the ancient world who hold academic positions in fields of study relevant to the history of Jesus of Nazareth.
      Gerd Lüdemann - A German New Testament Historian. Professor at the University of Gottinggen as a member of the Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity. He believes Jesus existed by denies the resurrection hypothesis:
      “JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY, 2004, P 50
      John Dominic Crossan - An Irish New Testament professor and historian. He teaches Jesus existed but wasn’t the Son of God:
      “THAT HE WAS CRUCIFIED IS AS SURE AS ANYTHING HISTORICAL CAN EVER BE, SINCE BOTH JOSEPHUS AND TACITUS…AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIAN ACCOUNTS ON AT LEAST THAT BASIC FACT.” - JESUS: A REVOLUTIONARY BIOGRAPHY. HARPERONE. P. 145
      Michael Grant - A Classicist, 3 history degrees, former vice-chancellor at Queen’s University of Belfast and former president of the University of Kartoum:
      “In recent years, ‘no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus’ or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.” in Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels by Michael Grant 2004 page 200.
      “If we apply to the New Testament, as we should, the same sort of criteria as we should apply to other ancient writings containing historical material, we can no more reject Jesus’ existence than we can reject the existence of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is never questioned.” Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels (New York: Macmillan, 1977), 199-200.
      Ed Parish Sanders - A New Testament scholar. Former Arts and Sciences Professor of Religion at Duke University, North Carolina. Two doctorates in theology. One of the most respected New Testament historians.
      The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11:
      “I shall first offer a list of statements about Jesus that meet two standards: they are almost beyond dispute; and they belong to the framework of his life, and especially of his public career. (A list of everything that we know about Jesus would be appreciably longer.) Jesus was born c 4 BCE near the time of the death of Herod the Great; he spent his childhood and early adult years in Nazareth, a Galilean village; he was baptised by John the Baptist; he called disciples; he taught in the towns, villages and countryside of Galilee (apparently not the cities); he preached ‘the kingdom of God’; about the year 30 he went to Jerusalem for Passover; he created a disturbance in the Temple area; he had a final meal with the disciples; he was arrested and interrogated by Jewish authorities, specifically the high priest; he was executed on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate.”
      He goes on to say:
      “Historical reconstruction is never absolutely certain, and in the case of Jesus it is sometimes highly uncertain. Despite this, we have a good idea of the main lines of his ministry and his message. We know who he was, what he did, what he taught, and why he died. ….. the dominant view [among scholars] today seems to be that we can know pretty well what Jesus was out to accomplish, that we can know a lot about what he said, and that those two things make sense within the world of first-century Judaism.” The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11
      Geza Vermes - Ph.D. in theology. Professor of New Testament Studies at Western Theological Seminary, in Holland, Michigan. Former professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford:
      “Who was Jesus? Did he exist? Was he God? Is he still relevant? To start with, the existence of Jesus is no longer debatable. He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, Roman governor of Judea between AD26 and 36, and was most probably born shortly before the death of Herod the Great in 4BC. Quasi-certainty stops here.” Article by Geza Vermes
      George Albert Wells - Atheist Emeritus professor of German at the University of London. Once believed Jesus was a myth, and one of the best known advocates of the “christ myth” theory. Well has changed his position to accept the existence of a historical Jesus. In 2003 Wells stated that he now disagrees with Robert M. Price on the information about Jesus being “all mythical”:
      “Nearly all commentators who mention the matter at all, [set] aside doubts about Jesus’ historicity as ridiculous.” He adds, “the view that there was no historical Jesus, that his earthly existence is a fiction of earliest Christianity … is today almost universally rejected.” “Serious students of the New Testament today regard the existence of Jesus as an unassailable fact” - Did Jesus Exist?, Revised edition (London: Pemberton, 1978, 1986), p 213. and The Historical Evidence for Jesus (Buffalo: Prometheus, 1988), p 218.
      Marcus Borg - Ph.D. Former Distinguished Professor of Religion and Culture at Oregon State University. He is a Bible scholar and an agnostic who believes Jesus was a Jewish prophet and teacher.
      In an interview, Borg is asked “So we have the proposition: “Jesus once walked this earth.” True or false?”. Borg responds: “True. The reasons for thinking that Jesus was invented by the early Christians are so weak. We have no reason to think that they did.”
      In another interview he stated: “Though a few books have recently argued that Jesus never existed, the evidence that he did is persuasive to the vast majority of scholars, whether Christian or non-Christian”.
      “Some judgments are so probable as to be certain; for example, Jesus really existed, and he really was crucified, just as Julius Caesar really existed and was assassinated… We can in fact know as much about Jesus as we can about any figure in the ancient world.” in The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions
      According to Marcus Borg, the following facts are agreed upon by most New Testament scholars:
      Jesus was born sometime just before 4 B.C. He grew up in Nazareth, a small village in Galilee, as part of the peasant class. Jesus’ father was a carpenter and he became one, too, meaning that they had likely lost their agricultural land at some point.
      Jesus was raised Jewish and he remained deeply Jewish all of his life. His intention was not to create a new religion. Rather, he saw himself as doing something within Judaism.
      He left Nazareth as an adult, met the prophet John and was baptized by John. During his baptism, Jesus likely experienced some sort of divine vision.
      Shortly afterwards, Jesus began his public preaching with the message that the world could be transformed into a “Kingdom of God.”
      He became a noted healer, teacher and prophet. More healing stories are told about Jesus than about any other figure in the Jewish tradition.
      He was executed by Roman imperial authority.
      His followers experienced him after his death. It is clear that they had visions of Jesus as they had known him during his historical life.
      Edwin Judge - He founded the Ancient History department at Macquarie University in Australia for which he is now Emeritus Professor.
      “An ancient historian has no problem seeing the phenomenon of Jesus as an historical one. His many surprising aspects only help anchor him in history. Myth and legend would have created a more predictable figure. The writings that sprang up about Jesus also reveal to us a movement of thought and an experience of life so unusual that something much more substantial than the imagination is needed to explain it.” - in the Foreword to The truth about Jesus by P Barnett
      Graeme Clarke - He is the Emeritus Professor of Classical (Ancient) History and Archaeology at Australian National University.
      “FRANKLY, I KNOW OF NO ANCIENT HISTORIAN OR BIBLICAL HISTORIAN WHO WOULD HAVE A TWINGE OF DOUBT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A JESUS CHRIST” - BRISBANE TIMES
      Of course there are other scholars but this is a good list, you can maybe read their writings. Also here are 9 secular sources that are widely used. 9 Secular Sources:
      Josephus (Jewish historian), Tacitus (Roman historian), Pliny the Younger (Roman politician), Phlegon (freed slave who wrote histories), Lucian (Greek satirist), Celsus (Roman philosopher), Mara Bar Serapion (prisoner awaiting execution), Suetonius, and Thallus.
      I got all my information from this website: reasonsforjesus.com/jesus-exist-scholars-agree-certainly-existed/

    • @davethesid8960
      @davethesid8960 Рік тому +1

      @@unknown_individual7050 These facts come from historical evidence.

    • @iQuiiKKz
      @iQuiiKKz Рік тому +2

      Doesn’t matter what you think, it matters what the evidence points to, and it points to the resurrection being a historical fact.

    • @drewnolterieke4720
      @drewnolterieke4720 Рік тому

      @@unknown_individual7050 this argument is like saying I don’t believe in science because only scientists tell me about science…facts are facts no matter who come from

  • @mirandahotspring4019
    @mirandahotspring4019 2 роки тому +1

    All fairy stories, not facts.

    • @alexhernandez2367
      @alexhernandez2367 Рік тому +1

      I don't know the specifics of how many historians came to the conclusion that Jesus existed, was crucified, his tomb was empty, that there were appearances of Jesus alive after his death, and that the disciples had a belief that Jesus rose from the dead. But many well respected and professional historians accept these claims as facts that it gives these claims more credibility.
      Of course Christian scholars believe in these facts but there are many well respected and professional historians that believe in them as well. The following is a list of accredited New Testament scholars who are either atheists, lack belief in God, or non-Christians who affirm the existence of Jesus beyond any doubt.
      They have no invested interested in Christianity, they deny that Jesus is the Son of God, they don’t think Jesus was divine in any way, and they deny that Jesus rose from the dead. They are just atheistic or agnostic scholars of the ancient world who hold academic positions in fields of study relevant to the history of Jesus of Nazareth.
      Gerd Lüdemann - A German New Testament Historian. Professor at the University of Gottinggen as a member of the Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity. He believes Jesus existed by denies the resurrection hypothesis:
      “JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY, 2004, P 50
      John Dominic Crossan - An Irish New Testament professor and historian. He teaches Jesus existed but wasn’t the Son of God:
      “THAT HE WAS CRUCIFIED IS AS SURE AS ANYTHING HISTORICAL CAN EVER BE, SINCE BOTH JOSEPHUS AND TACITUS…AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIAN ACCOUNTS ON AT LEAST THAT BASIC FACT.” - JESUS: A REVOLUTIONARY BIOGRAPHY. HARPERONE. P. 145
      Michael Grant - A Classicist, 3 history degrees, former vice-chancellor at Queen’s University of Belfast and former president of the University of Kartoum:
      “In recent years, ‘no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus’ or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.” in Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels by Michael Grant 2004 page 200.
      “If we apply to the New Testament, as we should, the same sort of criteria as we should apply to other ancient writings containing historical material, we can no more reject Jesus’ existence than we can reject the existence of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is never questioned.” Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels (New York: Macmillan, 1977), 199-200.
      Ed Parish Sanders - A New Testament scholar. Former Arts and Sciences Professor of Religion at Duke University, North Carolina. Two doctorates in theology. One of the most respected New Testament historians.
      The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11:
      “I shall first offer a list of statements about Jesus that meet two standards: they are almost beyond dispute; and they belong to the framework of his life, and especially of his public career. (A list of everything that we know about Jesus would be appreciably longer.) Jesus was born c 4 BCE near the time of the death of Herod the Great; he spent his childhood and early adult years in Nazareth, a Galilean village; he was baptised by John the Baptist; he called disciples; he taught in the towns, villages and countryside of Galilee (apparently not the cities); he preached ‘the kingdom of God’; about the year 30 he went to Jerusalem for Passover; he created a disturbance in the Temple area; he had a final meal with the disciples; he was arrested and interrogated by Jewish authorities, specifically the high priest; he was executed on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate.”
      He goes on to say:
      “Historical reconstruction is never absolutely certain, and in the case of Jesus it is sometimes highly uncertain. Despite this, we have a good idea of the main lines of his ministry and his message. We know who he was, what he did, what he taught, and why he died. ….. the dominant view [among scholars] today seems to be that we can know pretty well what Jesus was out to accomplish, that we can know a lot about what he said, and that those two things make sense within the world of first-century Judaism.” The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11
      Geza Vermes - Ph.D. in theology. Professor of New Testament Studies at Western Theological Seminary, in Holland, Michigan. Former professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford:
      “Who was Jesus? Did he exist? Was he God? Is he still relevant? To start with, the existence of Jesus is no longer debatable. He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, Roman governor of Judea between AD26 and 36, and was most probably born shortly before the death of Herod the Great in 4BC. Quasi-certainty stops here.” Article by Geza Vermes
      George Albert Wells - Atheist Emeritus professor of German at the University of London. Once believed Jesus was a myth, and one of the best known advocates of the “christ myth” theory. Well has changed his position to accept the existence of a historical Jesus. In 2003 Wells stated that he now disagrees with Robert M. Price on the information about Jesus being “all mythical”:
      “Nearly all commentators who mention the matter at all, [set] aside doubts about Jesus’ historicity as ridiculous.” He adds, “the view that there was no historical Jesus, that his earthly existence is a fiction of earliest Christianity … is today almost universally rejected.” “Serious students of the New Testament today regard the existence of Jesus as an unassailable fact” - Did Jesus Exist?, Revised edition (London: Pemberton, 1978, 1986), p 213. and The Historical Evidence for Jesus (Buffalo: Prometheus, 1988), p 218.
      Marcus Borg - Ph.D. Former Distinguished Professor of Religion and Culture at Oregon State University. He is a Bible scholar and an agnostic who believes Jesus was a Jewish prophet and teacher.
      In an interview, Borg is asked “So we have the proposition: “Jesus once walked this earth.” True or false?”. Borg responds: “True. The reasons for thinking that Jesus was invented by the early Christians are so weak. We have no reason to think that they did.”
      In another interview he stated: “Though a few books have recently argued that Jesus never existed, the evidence that he did is persuasive to the vast majority of scholars, whether Christian or non-Christian”.
      “Some judgments are so probable as to be certain; for example, Jesus really existed, and he really was crucified, just as Julius Caesar really existed and was assassinated… We can in fact know as much about Jesus as we can about any figure in the ancient world.” in The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions
      According to Marcus Borg, the following facts are agreed upon by most New Testament scholars:
      Jesus was born sometime just before 4 B.C. He grew up in Nazareth, a small village in Galilee, as part of the peasant class. Jesus’ father was a carpenter and he became one, too, meaning that they had likely lost their agricultural land at some point.
      Jesus was raised Jewish and he remained deeply Jewish all of his life. His intention was not to create a new religion. Rather, he saw himself as doing something within Judaism.
      He left Nazareth as an adult, met the prophet John and was baptized by John. During his baptism, Jesus likely experienced some sort of divine vision.
      Shortly afterwards, Jesus began his public preaching with the message that the world could be transformed into a “Kingdom of God.”
      He became a noted healer, teacher and prophet. More healing stories are told about Jesus than about any other figure in the Jewish tradition.
      He was executed by Roman imperial authority.
      His followers experienced him after his death. It is clear that they had visions of Jesus as they had known him during his historical life.
      Edwin Judge - He founded the Ancient History department at Macquarie University in Australia for which he is now Emeritus Professor.
      “An ancient historian has no problem seeing the phenomenon of Jesus as an historical one. His many surprising aspects only help anchor him in history. Myth and legend would have created a more predictable figure. The writings that sprang up about Jesus also reveal to us a movement of thought and an experience of life so unusual that something much more substantial than the imagination is needed to explain it.” - in the Foreword to The truth about Jesus by P Barnett
      Graeme Clarke - He is the Emeritus Professor of Classical (Ancient) History and Archaeology at Australian National University.
      “FRANKLY, I KNOW OF NO ANCIENT HISTORIAN OR BIBLICAL HISTORIAN WHO WOULD HAVE A TWINGE OF DOUBT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A JESUS CHRIST” - BRISBANE TIMES
      Of course there are other scholars but this is a good list, you can maybe read their writings. Also here are 9 secular sources that are widely used. 9 Secular Sources:
      Josephus (Jewish historian), Tacitus (Roman historian), Pliny the Younger (Roman politician), Phlegon (freed slave who wrote histories), Lucian (Greek satirist), Celsus (Roman philosopher), Mara Bar Serapion (prisoner awaiting execution), Suetonius, and Thallus.
      I got all my information from this website: reasonsforjesus.com/jesus-exist-scholars-agree-certainly-existed/

    • @mirandahotspring4019
      @mirandahotspring4019 Рік тому +1

      @@alexhernandez2367 So of all the thousands of historians you were able to cherry pick seven who support you. The fact remains, whether you believe Jesus existed or not, there is absolutely no contemporary evidence that supports it. Nazareth was a site that contained rock tombs at the supposed time of Christ. The village grew there much later to profit from tourists that wanted to visit the imaginary Christ's birthplace. Show the contemporary evidence...

    • @chadalvarez917
      @chadalvarez917 Рік тому

      @@mirandahotspring4019 that is incorrect you can say the same for everything in life, even if you are alive right now. Your point is?🤔

    • @mirandahotspring4019
      @mirandahotspring4019 Рік тому +1

      @@chadalvarez917 The bible is a collection of old myths, legends and falsehoods. No one knows who wrote any of the books in it or exactly when. Many are retelling older stories from earlier religions, that much is clear to scholars. It's full of nonsense, absurdities and contradictions. It is worthless as a history book or as a science book, yet even today people are trying to pass it off as such.

    • @chadalvarez917
      @chadalvarez917 Рік тому +1

      @@mirandahotspring4019 so your saying you don’t know who wrote it so that makes it a myth got it 🤦