1952 Motorola 21K1 TS351 Television Console Resurrection pt2

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  • @luke27luis
    @luke27luis Рік тому +40

    "I don't ever expect to retire from fixing things until I'm permanently retired into the incinerator". My respects, sir. That's the spirit

  • @1956kirk
    @1956kirk Рік тому +3

    Crosley used almost the identical same flyback in their 17" sets in 1954. With the same underchassis placement and horizontal width core.
    That radar CRT makes everything look lile it was filmed with a Vidicon tube camera with the target and beam settings off.

  • @Suddenlyits1960
    @Suddenlyits1960 Рік тому +2

    “This is too dirty for me to even work on”. Words I’d never thought I’d hear you speak!

  • @gretalaube91
    @gretalaube91 Рік тому +3

    Adjusta-gap! Cool! Sony trinitron tried to nail the core down with rusty bolts. Big M decides to go with the problem and adjust it. Great video! 73 es W3IHM

  • @KennethScharf
    @KennethScharf Рік тому +5

    The 6W6 was designed to run at lower voltages than the 6L6 and 6V6. As such it has a 1200ma heater to get the required cathode emission while the 6V6 has a 450ma heater and the 6L6 has a 900 ma heater. Actually, the 6W6 is close to being a 50L6 with a 6.3 volt heater. The 6V6 would make a poor sub for the 6W6, I think you might have to dig up the real McCoy here. A 6Y6 would be closer, but it won't fit either! A 5881 might do it, that's an industrial midget version of the 6L6.
    That test tube is probably a 5FP7. It has a cascade phopher, the back is a short blue, the front is a long yellow/green. The blue excites the yellow/green, just like your phone did. You can get a decent blue picture out of it, and won't see the yellow at all, unless you crank the brightness down.
    Those 5" radar test tubes don't have any 'dag'. You MUST have a capacitor from HV to ground (usually one of those 'door knob' caps).

  • @josepheccles9341
    @josepheccles9341 Рік тому +12

    The red stuff looks like the stuff used in motor rewinding back in the 1970's. It is an insulator. A trick for building small block Cheverolets was to paint the valley of the block with that to aid oil return from the heads because it was much smoother than the cast iron of the block. It was capable of withstanding high temperature and the chemicals in the oil.

  • @TheBananaPlug
    @TheBananaPlug Рік тому +7

    5FP7 tubes were used in the old 8 second SSTV monitors, I remember sitting in the dark watching SSTV pictures build on the monitor built by G3YCV around 1975. Good fun to see one of these in a regular TV.

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 Рік тому +11

    Shango066, ''This is even too dirty for me to work on''.
    Can you imagine???

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets Рік тому +6

    Shango the tease. He refuses to let us see the full cleaning footage and feel the satisfaction of him finally cleaning a chassis. 😂 Damn you, Shango. 😊

  • @leetucker9938
    @leetucker9938 Рік тому +29

    wow, mechanical flyback core . never seen that before. ive been watching these videos for years and theres always something new to learn . Thank you shango066

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer Рік тому +3

    "I don't plan on retiring from fixing things until I retire permanently to the incinerator."
    Amen Shango! I feel the exact same way.

  • @davepike6170
    @davepike6170 Рік тому +1

    That long-persistence phosphor CRT, is very cool!

  • @ESDI80
    @ESDI80 Рік тому +4

    I restored a 17 table top version of that TV. The cabinet on mine is all Bakelite and has the same bezel around the CRT. Mine is a 17T5A.

  • @ralphj4012
    @ralphj4012 Рік тому +5

    Only Shango can get a TV picture on a tube, yoke and focus coil not meant for the set, and not blow anything by laying the EHT cap on the chassis. Love the rubber band CRT clamp.

  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster Рік тому +9

    Motorola engineers design things a little differently to avoid RCA patents. Quite often a challenge to repair. Many bumble-
    bee and old waxy capacitors to fail or have failed. Two thumbs way up on the fella who sent you some components and
    a real nice B&K model 890 cap meter! 👍👍

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv Рік тому +12

    Glad you got it working. Very creative focus solution. P7 is wild to watch - sounds like you were having a lot of fun :)

  • @pcno2832
    @pcno2832 Рік тому +4

    1:14 It's amazing that the term "OLD SET" even existed in 1953, given that TVs for the U.S. market had only been mass-produced since about 1948.

  • @kareno8634
    @kareno8634 Рік тому +1

    *This is Truly an Art!* Raising the Spirits to come forward after years of life under Dust.
    Shapeshifter style of view, luring vocabulary; A Total TRIP, _magnates,_ your Focus connection.

  • @corinnegregory9027
    @corinnegregory9027 Рік тому +3

    "...permananently retired into the incinerator." LMAO! Thank you for brightening up my day. Great job on this oddball set especially with the experimental use of a energised focus coil, and radar CRT. Interesting application of a mechanically adjustable LOPT/flyback transformer to control width.

  • @jayster.k.wiseguy
    @jayster.k.wiseguy Рік тому +6

    sadly, real estate is so costly, have not the square footage, in this 95422, 6th street home~ am disabled, my shop and career are gone, but you impressions are kindred, as fixing everything is my specialty~

  • @JohnSurf5
    @JohnSurf5 Рік тому +1

    This might be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen someone do with antique electronics! Very neat. What a great reward for your efforts

  • @RingingResonance
    @RingingResonance Рік тому +15

    That looks like P7 phosphor. The same kind used for RADAR tubes of the time! I have a 5FP7 tube I made a circuit for displaying vector graphics on. It's a beautiful color combination. It uses a fast blue phosphor on the back and a yellow/green phosphor on the front for the persistence.

    • @SoundsLegit71
      @SoundsLegit71 Рік тому +2

      I have a 10SP7 I think it is, it works on 10BP4 sets. Same fast blue and long green. I was thinking of making an ultrasound scanner with it. I took two transducers and mounted them on a mechanical sweeping arm to an oscilloscope and it will show if a metal yard stick is in front of it to about 15 feet. Then I would need the up and down sweep to get a full image. I don't know though tests had pretty crude results.

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance Рік тому +2

      @@SoundsLegit71 I as thinking of doing something similar since it's now an XY scope. Right now it just receives audio files from a raspi that are generated using a program I wrote called imagetovectwave

    • @EdgarsLS
      @EdgarsLS Рік тому +3

      They're easier to burn-in than short persistence phosphors, so it's not the most ideal as a test tube

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance Рік тому +1

      @@EdgarsLS I added a circuit just because of that actually. The circuit monitors the X and Y inputs and if there is no signal it turns the beam off.

  • @MsCori76
    @MsCori76 Рік тому +4

    I’m in love! 2 Shango videos at the same time….winning tonight. ❤👌🏼
    So trippy & cool with the green glowage on that little round CRT. Does remind you of those glow sticks.

  • @doogie812
    @doogie812 Рік тому +4

    You MacGyver like I MacGyver! You had me rolling with the focus coil with a variac shunt supplied from the field coil supply. The picture on the radar tube was all worth it. Keep up the great work.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 Рік тому +2

      It's all about ' make it go in time for the evening news '
      I used to play with tvs and didn't know diddley squat. Now I still don't know squat but I wish I had known the squat I know now back when I had a bunch of junk to play with.
      I would love to still have that 1949 spartan mirror - on - lid , I would be all over it changing out everything.

  • @pcno2832
    @pcno2832 Рік тому +8

    I think you should leave the radar tube in it and put it back into the cabinet that way. It would make a great prop for a horror movie set.

  • @kevtris
    @kevtris Рік тому +2

    after watching for so long, I finally had to look up what "décolleté" means. it means "having a low cut neckline".

  • @Fredy5100
    @Fredy5100 Рік тому +4

    It's is a lot of fun seeing TV pictures on a radar tube, also love your solution on the focusing. Thank you for all the great content!

  • @randyab9go188
    @randyab9go188 Рік тому +7

    Two Shango videos in one day? Super cool.

  • @georgegonzalez2476
    @georgegonzalez2476 Рік тому +5

    Those P7 CRT's usually had a deep orange filter on the front to dim the blue-white flash and pass the orange afterglow. I may still have a 5FP7 or two from a couple of dismantled microwave spectrum analyzers. They needed a slow sweep speed to trace out fine spectrum details. Amazing devices but the size of a console TV.

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv Рік тому +4

      There were P12 orange phosphor radar CRTs.

  • @EdgarsLS
    @EdgarsLS Рік тому +4

    Those Paper capacitors get leaky because of moisture that gets into them, the older beeswax caps usually don't leak because the beeswax is softer and doesnt crack as often.
    I have tried repairing old paper caps, boiling the moisture off in wax which took about 4 hours, afterwards the caps tested perfectly with no leakage.

    • @michvod
      @michvod Рік тому +1

      Yes you can boil those caps with boiling them in wax, but only if the were wax impregnated. Most of the times (at least on European sets), the caps were in glass tubes and sealed with tar (bitumen) that gets really hard and cracks. Those cannot be saved...

    • @michvod
      @michvod Рік тому +1

      Also sometimes the paper ingresses so much moisture that it physically expands and cracks the glass tubes... some caps were even put in metal boxes that were then sealed with tar. I've seen those expand so much the metal failed and cracked

  • @s8472-k8i
    @s8472-k8i Рік тому +2

    20:48 Dead spider stuck on flyback transformer looks like facehugger from Aliens 😄

  • @rotaxtwin
    @rotaxtwin Рік тому +5

    Wow, I didn't think you were going to get any kind of image on there but you pulled it off. Good work.

  • @losbanos999
    @losbanos999 Рік тому +1

    I wish you were closer. I would get it. Someone in SoCal will be happy to have this. Thanks.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv Рік тому +5

    That radar tube was a trip, no need for drugs :-D

    • @MsCori76
      @MsCori76 Рік тому +1

      Exactly, who needs drugs when you can play with that CRT all day long. 😂

    • @albinklein7680
      @albinklein7680 Рік тому +2

      Even better if you are on drugs and then you start playing with this CRT.

    • @zx8401ztv
      @zx8401ztv Рік тому

      @@albinklein7680 How did you know i was on drugs.... Ok they are prescribed medication from my doctor 😀
      I'm boring now lol.

  • @MrHBSoftware
    @MrHBSoftware Рік тому +4

    52:25 actually im really good at fixing 50's 60's BW sets and learnt from here....cant learn anything with bob anderson, he just changes every out of spec resistor and cap...if an amateur does that, there is very slim chance the set will ever work again...i learn how the set works little by little from watching videos like this and also reading books about tv receiver servicing

  • @mikefinn2101
    @mikefinn2101 Рік тому +1

    Kool video to watch on my Saturday Morning with coffee, got up and was just excited to enjoy one of my favorite show The Shango channel always something new to learn and nice humor too you don't that extra bonus on other channels either it was a great experience to watch wish I could get that TV but too far to go to drive down there. Thanks for sharing this me and wow girl friendly jeans too. thanks Mike you made my day.

  • @moisesalexandrewielckensci3237

    The final result is fantastic.
    It is a great study with several important details.
    Very good !

  • @randyr.parker2698
    @randyr.parker2698 Рік тому +5

    Two Shango066 videos in one day? WOO HOO!!!!

  • @Daniel_cheems
    @Daniel_cheems Рік тому +2

    The A.I. doesn't calculate me
    I lost it there

  • @digitalzoey
    @digitalzoey Рік тому +2

    still love your videos they're stlll my dinner meals and bed time stories. btw hey from Ottawa, Ontario Canada!

  • @georgef551
    @georgef551 Рік тому +1

    That tube has two phosphor coatings. The "White" one is normal persistence, they add a yellow one for the long persistence, maybe as you said, radar likely the use for it (they do use these kinds of CRTs for that reasons, to make an image from a rotating line).

  • @edwardallan197
    @edwardallan197 Рік тому +1

    A fascinating resurection. I have a thing for Motorola. I remember a few Motorola products from long ago that were, well, above average all around imo.

  • @chetpomeroy1399
    @chetpomeroy1399 Рік тому +3

    That's a pretty cool radar CRT! It was probably originally intended to be used by NORAD and the Pentagon for detecting incoming Soviet nuclear ICBMs.

  • @TheFineby
    @TheFineby Рік тому +1

    Great entertainment, would love to see it back together and running!

  • @frank3770
    @frank3770 Рік тому

    A modern TV picture in a radar display tube, the most fallout thing i ever seen in real life

  • @bobbyk6585
    @bobbyk6585 Рік тому

    Skills beyond measure. Way to go Shango!

  • @martinclemesha4794
    @martinclemesha4794 Рік тому

    Another great upload, thanks. And those low flying planes just love buzzing over your place don't they.

  • @RoughJustice2k18
    @RoughJustice2k18 Рік тому +1

    Learned a new word today ... "nastacular" (but no 🐀 nest in the TV though).🤔

  • @waltschannel7465
    @waltschannel7465 Рік тому +1

    That capacitor sorting meter is very interesting to me. In the 1980s. I work for a company that did active filters using LM1458 OP AMPS,and we sorted 820 pF capacitors using a similar but cheaper meter.

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 Рік тому +1

    Using a radar tube to watch TV, now that is innovative. Nice

  • @agoogleuser704
    @agoogleuser704 Рік тому

    Just like a WOLED at low brightness 🔅 😮, thanks for the video

  • @lutello3012
    @lutello3012 Рік тому

    The ultimate vintage gaming CRT, same type the PDP-1 used to play Spacewar in 1962. The animation programs they made were pretty mesmerizing on that thing.

  • @douglashoff95
    @douglashoff95 12 днів тому

    Wow $339.95 in 1953 was a LOT of money!!! That was the year I was born. I remember my Dad paid $1,000 for a 1950 Oldsmobile 88.

  • @tokyogentleman
    @tokyogentleman Рік тому

    i love the radar crt! the high voltage tube had a lot of green corrosion ;-)

  • @Pawelr98
    @Pawelr98 Рік тому +3

    If you can obtain 6P1P, make an adapter for the octal 6V6. Same tube, much lower prices and many stockpiles of brand new ones in the former USSR. There's also the chinese 6P1 clone of the 6P1P. The military version (6П1П-EB / 6P1P-EV) should be a fairly decent as an inexpensive replacement, while the non "EV" version or the chinese ones should be a decent throwaway test tube as they are very cheap.

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Рік тому

    Cool radar tube!
    Amazing that you got a pretty good picture even with that radar tube and minimal capacitor changes.

  • @fanofoldfans9238
    @fanofoldfans9238 Рік тому +3

    Video latency a stoners delight! Maybe the burnt spot on the fly back coil was the spider that got cooked...

  • @W1RMD
    @W1RMD Рік тому +1

    Really cool crt! I'm amazed that you get all this crap running. "Stay free"!

  • @cgeorge6786
    @cgeorge6786 Рік тому +1

    Those of us in this hobby are fortunate that Phosphorus coatings inside these old crt's are very durable. Imagine if they degraded after 15 years well that would be it for the hobby.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Рік тому

    First time I ever heard you laugh out loud but is kinda funny .....cheers.

  • @Desert-edDave
    @Desert-edDave Рік тому

    Two videos in one day? Very cool. The radar CRT was very cool to see with a video signal.

  • @thomashowe855
    @thomashowe855 Рік тому

    The medicare bit was funny. Thanks for the awesome video!

  • @frank1371
    @frank1371 Рік тому +1

    What kind of marker did you use to mark the ion trap on the crt?

  • @garbleduser
    @garbleduser Рік тому +1

    I would love to see a clip from Dr. Strangelove on that CRT!

  • @outaspaceman
    @outaspaceman Рік тому +1

    I’ve built a TV glitch box I’d ❤ to use with that Radar tube…👍

  • @randyr.parker2698
    @randyr.parker2698 Рік тому

    @shango066, you're having wayyyyy too much fun! 🤣😂

  • @jjgriffin100
    @jjgriffin100 Рік тому +13

    As a California native, does Columbo wearing a raincoat year round make any sense whatsoever?

    • @One-Crazy-Cat
      @One-Crazy-Cat Рік тому +2

      Yes because it fit the look.

    • @googlem7
      @googlem7 Рік тому

      Coincidentally Columbo is now on tv as I am writing this 😂

    • @Nickpilot318
      @Nickpilot318 Рік тому +1

      Where would he keep his cigars, raisins, candy, clues, etc.?

  • @radio-ged4626
    @radio-ged4626 Рік тому +1

    Who needs shrooms when you have long persistance phoshpor (get me my LPPs). Ghosts in the machine man.

  • @minty_Joe
    @minty_Joe Рік тому

    Shango066, with that radar CRT, it makes you wonder how much X radiation is being emitted by it. Gotta be off the charts.

  • @computeraidedworld1148
    @computeraidedworld1148 Рік тому +2

    That metal shield on the CRT may have been because it originally used that antenna in the ceiling of the cabinet

  • @garyceriotti850
    @garyceriotti850 Рік тому

    Excellent video thank you!

  • @AiOinc1
    @AiOinc1 Рік тому

    Resurrection is much much more interesting to me than restoration. Restoring these is just a matter of hucking parts at it until it works and that's just not the right way to do things.
    Edit: really cool to see that 6AX4 doing it's thing

  • @anthonyshiels9273
    @anthonyshiels9273 Рік тому

    When your money is good you feel good.
    So true.

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree Рік тому

    Cool tube ....some artistic shot there !!!!

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix Рік тому

    That phosphor would instantly restore anyone’s declate and erase anyone’s crepes.

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 Рік тому +1

    That RADAR CRT is awesome.

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 Рік тому +2

    Actually, that AI got it spot-on: it figured out that it can’t sell you anything, so it promptly hung up.

  • @Stoney3K
    @Stoney3K Рік тому

    That radar CRT looks like it could be turned into a very cool Fallout-esque computer terminal.

  • @bob9483
    @bob9483 Рік тому

    Thank you sir, appreciate the content.

  • @chrisingle5839
    @chrisingle5839 Рік тому +1

    Well Done, as always!

  • @ATSNorthernMI
    @ATSNorthernMI Рік тому +1

    Just a side note. The scammers are getting smarter and if you start harassing them, they will use the 1980's outdated telephone act that states that you are guilty of up to a felony for harassing individuals on the phone. If you harass these people enough they will file a complaint with the FCC and have you either arrested or 99% of the time, have your phone disconnected. A friend of mine used to harass these people all day long because he was retired and didn't have anything else better to do and one day his cellphone stopped working. He kept his bills up to date with Verizon and he called them from my phone to figure out why he didn't get any reception and found out they banned him from their network for violating the harassment law and he is no long allowed to use their service. My mind was completely blown but finding out that fellow youtubers being raided and arrested for "harassing" scammers and fined over 10 grand and jailed for violating the law makes me wonder who really is on our side. It definitely isn't any alphabet soup government agency that is supposed to be working for "The People" and not against them.

  • @stickytapenrust6869
    @stickytapenrust6869 Рік тому

    12:00 - it’s like comet tailing on 1980s TV shows and music videos.

  • @boazrefaely1205
    @boazrefaely1205 Рік тому

    You are a GENIUS!!

  • @RetrofIex
    @RetrofIex Рік тому

    The James Dean era CRT. Looks really cool

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Рік тому

    Danny DeVito has vertical problems, too.

  • @ziggfreud9820
    @ziggfreud9820 Рік тому +2

    You probably take your expertise for granted but wow dead chassy, radar tube, make shift focus ring and voila TV!

  • @cheath8705
    @cheath8705 Рік тому +1

    You can probably opt for a current production JJ 6v6. I have one in my guitar amp. Some say it's more like a "6VL6" as a joke. Other words, in between like that 6W6 you're describing.

  • @quantumleap359
    @quantumleap359 Рік тому +1

    Had to take that RF tube out and bang it on the table! Hahahaha I was laughing so hard! Great resurrection of that old Motorola Shang!

  • @Srinathji_Das
    @Srinathji_Das Рік тому

    Thank you so much for your videos! 👍

  • @mrFalconlem
    @mrFalconlem Рік тому

    That’s just a 60s thing, my dad did that up till 2010, he was the same age as Falk. He had a couple old hats too, and sometimes wore those, many men were NOT trendy lol.

  • @basketballjones6782
    @basketballjones6782 Рік тому

    How did you get only a vertical line with the vertical deflection being bad? I tried it on mine and only got a horizontal line.

  • @randyab9go188
    @randyab9go188 Рік тому

    Is the 6ax4 damper tube a Rad-Tel? Pulls, 2nds, used tested good tubes relabled Rad-Tel and sold at a discount by mail order!!

  • @dennylynch8734
    @dennylynch8734 Рік тому

    That's a great job buddy 👍

  • @401ksolar
    @401ksolar Рік тому +1

    That high latency phosphor latency effect looks a lot like a filter you can apply to VLC media player, I think it's called motion blur

  • @billmyke746
    @billmyke746 Рік тому

    I thank you for the 'double shot' today.

  • @ericmoeller3634
    @ericmoeller3634 Рік тому +2

    dose that one cat still come around the one thats old af and its been on some of your old videos too i think its grey amd white

    • @MsCori76
      @MsCori76 Рік тому +1

      I think he passed away.

  • @BlueSkyScholar
    @BlueSkyScholar Рік тому +1

    Since WWII resistors for the most part followed the E system, for what ever reason capacitors hung on to the old (RMA) system for years after. I have a few hundred .047 630V boxes for you if you want them (Private message to follow)...Caveat being they are PC mount with short legs.

  • @davepike6170
    @davepike6170 Рік тому

    The same with me, I will continue to be an electronic technician until I can't do anything, anymore!

  • @JFinnerud
    @JFinnerud Рік тому

    That must be an absolute dream set for Fallout fans.

  • @1marcelfilms
    @1marcelfilms Рік тому

    Now what you need to do is feed the TV a signal where only 2 frames out of the 30 are displayed and the other 28 are blacked out. That would be so trippy