Crosley used almost the identical same flyback in their 17" sets in 1954. With the same underchassis placement and horizontal width core. That radar CRT makes everything look lile it was filmed with a Vidicon tube camera with the target and beam settings off.
Adjusta-gap! Cool! Sony trinitron tried to nail the core down with rusty bolts. Big M decides to go with the problem and adjust it. Great video! 73 es W3IHM
The 6W6 was designed to run at lower voltages than the 6L6 and 6V6. As such it has a 1200ma heater to get the required cathode emission while the 6V6 has a 450ma heater and the 6L6 has a 900 ma heater. Actually, the 6W6 is close to being a 50L6 with a 6.3 volt heater. The 6V6 would make a poor sub for the 6W6, I think you might have to dig up the real McCoy here. A 6Y6 would be closer, but it won't fit either! A 5881 might do it, that's an industrial midget version of the 6L6. That test tube is probably a 5FP7. It has a cascade phopher, the back is a short blue, the front is a long yellow/green. The blue excites the yellow/green, just like your phone did. You can get a decent blue picture out of it, and won't see the yellow at all, unless you crank the brightness down. Those 5" radar test tubes don't have any 'dag'. You MUST have a capacitor from HV to ground (usually one of those 'door knob' caps).
The red stuff looks like the stuff used in motor rewinding back in the 1970's. It is an insulator. A trick for building small block Cheverolets was to paint the valley of the block with that to aid oil return from the heads because it was much smoother than the cast iron of the block. It was capable of withstanding high temperature and the chemicals in the oil.
5FP7 tubes were used in the old 8 second SSTV monitors, I remember sitting in the dark watching SSTV pictures build on the monitor built by G3YCV around 1975. Good fun to see one of these in a regular TV.
Shango the tease. He refuses to let us see the full cleaning footage and feel the satisfaction of him finally cleaning a chassis. 😂 Damn you, Shango. 😊
wow, mechanical flyback core . never seen that before. ive been watching these videos for years and theres always something new to learn . Thank you shango066
Only Shango can get a TV picture on a tube, yoke and focus coil not meant for the set, and not blow anything by laying the EHT cap on the chassis. Love the rubber band CRT clamp.
Motorola engineers design things a little differently to avoid RCA patents. Quite often a challenge to repair. Many bumble- bee and old waxy capacitors to fail or have failed. Two thumbs way up on the fella who sent you some components and a real nice B&K model 890 cap meter! 👍👍
*This is Truly an Art!* Raising the Spirits to come forward after years of life under Dust. Shapeshifter style of view, luring vocabulary; A Total TRIP, _magnates,_ your Focus connection.
"...permananently retired into the incinerator." LMAO! Thank you for brightening up my day. Great job on this oddball set especially with the experimental use of a energised focus coil, and radar CRT. Interesting application of a mechanically adjustable LOPT/flyback transformer to control width.
sadly, real estate is so costly, have not the square footage, in this 95422, 6th street home~ am disabled, my shop and career are gone, but you impressions are kindred, as fixing everything is my specialty~
That looks like P7 phosphor. The same kind used for RADAR tubes of the time! I have a 5FP7 tube I made a circuit for displaying vector graphics on. It's a beautiful color combination. It uses a fast blue phosphor on the back and a yellow/green phosphor on the front for the persistence.
I have a 10SP7 I think it is, it works on 10BP4 sets. Same fast blue and long green. I was thinking of making an ultrasound scanner with it. I took two transducers and mounted them on a mechanical sweeping arm to an oscilloscope and it will show if a metal yard stick is in front of it to about 15 feet. Then I would need the up and down sweep to get a full image. I don't know though tests had pretty crude results.
@@SoundsLegit71 I as thinking of doing something similar since it's now an XY scope. Right now it just receives audio files from a raspi that are generated using a program I wrote called imagetovectwave
I’m in love! 2 Shango videos at the same time….winning tonight. ❤👌🏼 So trippy & cool with the green glowage on that little round CRT. Does remind you of those glow sticks.
You MacGyver like I MacGyver! You had me rolling with the focus coil with a variac shunt supplied from the field coil supply. The picture on the radar tube was all worth it. Keep up the great work.
It's all about ' make it go in time for the evening news ' I used to play with tvs and didn't know diddley squat. Now I still don't know squat but I wish I had known the squat I know now back when I had a bunch of junk to play with. I would love to still have that 1949 spartan mirror - on - lid , I would be all over it changing out everything.
Those P7 CRT's usually had a deep orange filter on the front to dim the blue-white flash and pass the orange afterglow. I may still have a 5FP7 or two from a couple of dismantled microwave spectrum analyzers. They needed a slow sweep speed to trace out fine spectrum details. Amazing devices but the size of a console TV.
Those Paper capacitors get leaky because of moisture that gets into them, the older beeswax caps usually don't leak because the beeswax is softer and doesnt crack as often. I have tried repairing old paper caps, boiling the moisture off in wax which took about 4 hours, afterwards the caps tested perfectly with no leakage.
Yes you can boil those caps with boiling them in wax, but only if the were wax impregnated. Most of the times (at least on European sets), the caps were in glass tubes and sealed with tar (bitumen) that gets really hard and cracks. Those cannot be saved...
Also sometimes the paper ingresses so much moisture that it physically expands and cracks the glass tubes... some caps were even put in metal boxes that were then sealed with tar. I've seen those expand so much the metal failed and cracked
52:25 actually im really good at fixing 50's 60's BW sets and learnt from here....cant learn anything with bob anderson, he just changes every out of spec resistor and cap...if an amateur does that, there is very slim chance the set will ever work again...i learn how the set works little by little from watching videos like this and also reading books about tv receiver servicing
Kool video to watch on my Saturday Morning with coffee, got up and was just excited to enjoy one of my favorite show The Shango channel always something new to learn and nice humor too you don't that extra bonus on other channels either it was a great experience to watch wish I could get that TV but too far to go to drive down there. Thanks for sharing this me and wow girl friendly jeans too. thanks Mike you made my day.
That tube has two phosphor coatings. The "White" one is normal persistence, they add a yellow one for the long persistence, maybe as you said, radar likely the use for it (they do use these kinds of CRTs for that reasons, to make an image from a rotating line).
A fascinating resurection. I have a thing for Motorola. I remember a few Motorola products from long ago that were, well, above average all around imo.
That capacitor sorting meter is very interesting to me. In the 1980s. I work for a company that did active filters using LM1458 OP AMPS,and we sorted 820 pF capacitors using a similar but cheaper meter.
The ultimate vintage gaming CRT, same type the PDP-1 used to play Spacewar in 1962. The animation programs they made were pretty mesmerizing on that thing.
If you can obtain 6P1P, make an adapter for the octal 6V6. Same tube, much lower prices and many stockpiles of brand new ones in the former USSR. There's also the chinese 6P1 clone of the 6P1P. The military version (6П1П-EB / 6P1P-EV) should be a fairly decent as an inexpensive replacement, while the non "EV" version or the chinese ones should be a decent throwaway test tube as they are very cheap.
Those of us in this hobby are fortunate that Phosphorus coatings inside these old crt's are very durable. Imagine if they degraded after 15 years well that would be it for the hobby.
Resurrection is much much more interesting to me than restoration. Restoring these is just a matter of hucking parts at it until it works and that's just not the right way to do things. Edit: really cool to see that 6AX4 doing it's thing
Just a side note. The scammers are getting smarter and if you start harassing them, they will use the 1980's outdated telephone act that states that you are guilty of up to a felony for harassing individuals on the phone. If you harass these people enough they will file a complaint with the FCC and have you either arrested or 99% of the time, have your phone disconnected. A friend of mine used to harass these people all day long because he was retired and didn't have anything else better to do and one day his cellphone stopped working. He kept his bills up to date with Verizon and he called them from my phone to figure out why he didn't get any reception and found out they banned him from their network for violating the harassment law and he is no long allowed to use their service. My mind was completely blown but finding out that fellow youtubers being raided and arrested for "harassing" scammers and fined over 10 grand and jailed for violating the law makes me wonder who really is on our side. It definitely isn't any alphabet soup government agency that is supposed to be working for "The People" and not against them.
You can probably opt for a current production JJ 6v6. I have one in my guitar amp. Some say it's more like a "6VL6" as a joke. Other words, in between like that 6W6 you're describing.
That’s just a 60s thing, my dad did that up till 2010, he was the same age as Falk. He had a couple old hats too, and sometimes wore those, many men were NOT trendy lol.
Since WWII resistors for the most part followed the E system, for what ever reason capacitors hung on to the old (RMA) system for years after. I have a few hundred .047 630V boxes for you if you want them (Private message to follow)...Caveat being they are PC mount with short legs.
Now what you need to do is feed the TV a signal where only 2 frames out of the 30 are displayed and the other 28 are blacked out. That would be so trippy
"I don't ever expect to retire from fixing things until I'm permanently retired into the incinerator". My respects, sir. That's the spirit
Crosley used almost the identical same flyback in their 17" sets in 1954. With the same underchassis placement and horizontal width core.
That radar CRT makes everything look lile it was filmed with a Vidicon tube camera with the target and beam settings off.
“This is too dirty for me to even work on”. Words I’d never thought I’d hear you speak!
Adjusta-gap! Cool! Sony trinitron tried to nail the core down with rusty bolts. Big M decides to go with the problem and adjust it. Great video! 73 es W3IHM
The 6W6 was designed to run at lower voltages than the 6L6 and 6V6. As such it has a 1200ma heater to get the required cathode emission while the 6V6 has a 450ma heater and the 6L6 has a 900 ma heater. Actually, the 6W6 is close to being a 50L6 with a 6.3 volt heater. The 6V6 would make a poor sub for the 6W6, I think you might have to dig up the real McCoy here. A 6Y6 would be closer, but it won't fit either! A 5881 might do it, that's an industrial midget version of the 6L6.
That test tube is probably a 5FP7. It has a cascade phopher, the back is a short blue, the front is a long yellow/green. The blue excites the yellow/green, just like your phone did. You can get a decent blue picture out of it, and won't see the yellow at all, unless you crank the brightness down.
Those 5" radar test tubes don't have any 'dag'. You MUST have a capacitor from HV to ground (usually one of those 'door knob' caps).
The red stuff looks like the stuff used in motor rewinding back in the 1970's. It is an insulator. A trick for building small block Cheverolets was to paint the valley of the block with that to aid oil return from the heads because it was much smoother than the cast iron of the block. It was capable of withstanding high temperature and the chemicals in the oil.
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5FP7 tubes were used in the old 8 second SSTV monitors, I remember sitting in the dark watching SSTV pictures build on the monitor built by G3YCV around 1975. Good fun to see one of these in a regular TV.
Shango066, ''This is even too dirty for me to work on''.
Can you imagine???
Shango the tease. He refuses to let us see the full cleaning footage and feel the satisfaction of him finally cleaning a chassis. 😂 Damn you, Shango. 😊
wow, mechanical flyback core . never seen that before. ive been watching these videos for years and theres always something new to learn . Thank you shango066
Agreed well said
"I don't plan on retiring from fixing things until I retire permanently to the incinerator."
Amen Shango! I feel the exact same way.
That long-persistence phosphor CRT, is very cool!
I restored a 17 table top version of that TV. The cabinet on mine is all Bakelite and has the same bezel around the CRT. Mine is a 17T5A.
Only Shango can get a TV picture on a tube, yoke and focus coil not meant for the set, and not blow anything by laying the EHT cap on the chassis. Love the rubber band CRT clamp.
Motorola engineers design things a little differently to avoid RCA patents. Quite often a challenge to repair. Many bumble-
bee and old waxy capacitors to fail or have failed. Two thumbs way up on the fella who sent you some components and
a real nice B&K model 890 cap meter! 👍👍
Glad you got it working. Very creative focus solution. P7 is wild to watch - sounds like you were having a lot of fun :)
1:14 It's amazing that the term "OLD SET" even existed in 1953, given that TVs for the U.S. market had only been mass-produced since about 1948.
*This is Truly an Art!* Raising the Spirits to come forward after years of life under Dust.
Shapeshifter style of view, luring vocabulary; A Total TRIP, _magnates,_ your Focus connection.
"...permananently retired into the incinerator." LMAO! Thank you for brightening up my day. Great job on this oddball set especially with the experimental use of a energised focus coil, and radar CRT. Interesting application of a mechanically adjustable LOPT/flyback transformer to control width.
sadly, real estate is so costly, have not the square footage, in this 95422, 6th street home~ am disabled, my shop and career are gone, but you impressions are kindred, as fixing everything is my specialty~
This might be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen someone do with antique electronics! Very neat. What a great reward for your efforts
That looks like P7 phosphor. The same kind used for RADAR tubes of the time! I have a 5FP7 tube I made a circuit for displaying vector graphics on. It's a beautiful color combination. It uses a fast blue phosphor on the back and a yellow/green phosphor on the front for the persistence.
I have a 10SP7 I think it is, it works on 10BP4 sets. Same fast blue and long green. I was thinking of making an ultrasound scanner with it. I took two transducers and mounted them on a mechanical sweeping arm to an oscilloscope and it will show if a metal yard stick is in front of it to about 15 feet. Then I would need the up and down sweep to get a full image. I don't know though tests had pretty crude results.
@@SoundsLegit71 I as thinking of doing something similar since it's now an XY scope. Right now it just receives audio files from a raspi that are generated using a program I wrote called imagetovectwave
They're easier to burn-in than short persistence phosphors, so it's not the most ideal as a test tube
@@EdgarsLS I added a circuit just because of that actually. The circuit monitors the X and Y inputs and if there is no signal it turns the beam off.
I’m in love! 2 Shango videos at the same time….winning tonight. ❤👌🏼
So trippy & cool with the green glowage on that little round CRT. Does remind you of those glow sticks.
You MacGyver like I MacGyver! You had me rolling with the focus coil with a variac shunt supplied from the field coil supply. The picture on the radar tube was all worth it. Keep up the great work.
It's all about ' make it go in time for the evening news '
I used to play with tvs and didn't know diddley squat. Now I still don't know squat but I wish I had known the squat I know now back when I had a bunch of junk to play with.
I would love to still have that 1949 spartan mirror - on - lid , I would be all over it changing out everything.
I think you should leave the radar tube in it and put it back into the cabinet that way. It would make a great prop for a horror movie set.
after watching for so long, I finally had to look up what "décolleté" means. it means "having a low cut neckline".
It's is a lot of fun seeing TV pictures on a radar tube, also love your solution on the focusing. Thank you for all the great content!
Two Shango videos in one day? Super cool.
Those P7 CRT's usually had a deep orange filter on the front to dim the blue-white flash and pass the orange afterglow. I may still have a 5FP7 or two from a couple of dismantled microwave spectrum analyzers. They needed a slow sweep speed to trace out fine spectrum details. Amazing devices but the size of a console TV.
There were P12 orange phosphor radar CRTs.
Those Paper capacitors get leaky because of moisture that gets into them, the older beeswax caps usually don't leak because the beeswax is softer and doesnt crack as often.
I have tried repairing old paper caps, boiling the moisture off in wax which took about 4 hours, afterwards the caps tested perfectly with no leakage.
Yes you can boil those caps with boiling them in wax, but only if the were wax impregnated. Most of the times (at least on European sets), the caps were in glass tubes and sealed with tar (bitumen) that gets really hard and cracks. Those cannot be saved...
Also sometimes the paper ingresses so much moisture that it physically expands and cracks the glass tubes... some caps were even put in metal boxes that were then sealed with tar. I've seen those expand so much the metal failed and cracked
20:48 Dead spider stuck on flyback transformer looks like facehugger from Aliens 😄
Wow, I didn't think you were going to get any kind of image on there but you pulled it off. Good work.
I wish you were closer. I would get it. Someone in SoCal will be happy to have this. Thanks.
That radar tube was a trip, no need for drugs :-D
Exactly, who needs drugs when you can play with that CRT all day long. 😂
Even better if you are on drugs and then you start playing with this CRT.
@@albinklein7680 How did you know i was on drugs.... Ok they are prescribed medication from my doctor 😀
I'm boring now lol.
52:25 actually im really good at fixing 50's 60's BW sets and learnt from here....cant learn anything with bob anderson, he just changes every out of spec resistor and cap...if an amateur does that, there is very slim chance the set will ever work again...i learn how the set works little by little from watching videos like this and also reading books about tv receiver servicing
Kool video to watch on my Saturday Morning with coffee, got up and was just excited to enjoy one of my favorite show The Shango channel always something new to learn and nice humor too you don't that extra bonus on other channels either it was a great experience to watch wish I could get that TV but too far to go to drive down there. Thanks for sharing this me and wow girl friendly jeans too. thanks Mike you made my day.
The final result is fantastic.
It is a great study with several important details.
Very good !
Two Shango066 videos in one day? WOO HOO!!!!
The A.I. doesn't calculate me
I lost it there
still love your videos they're stlll my dinner meals and bed time stories. btw hey from Ottawa, Ontario Canada!
That tube has two phosphor coatings. The "White" one is normal persistence, they add a yellow one for the long persistence, maybe as you said, radar likely the use for it (they do use these kinds of CRTs for that reasons, to make an image from a rotating line).
A fascinating resurection. I have a thing for Motorola. I remember a few Motorola products from long ago that were, well, above average all around imo.
That's a pretty cool radar CRT! It was probably originally intended to be used by NORAD and the Pentagon for detecting incoming Soviet nuclear ICBMs.
Great entertainment, would love to see it back together and running!
A modern TV picture in a radar display tube, the most fallout thing i ever seen in real life
Skills beyond measure. Way to go Shango!
Another great upload, thanks. And those low flying planes just love buzzing over your place don't they.
Learned a new word today ... "nastacular" (but no 🐀 nest in the TV though).🤔
That capacitor sorting meter is very interesting to me. In the 1980s. I work for a company that did active filters using LM1458 OP AMPS,and we sorted 820 pF capacitors using a similar but cheaper meter.
Using a radar tube to watch TV, now that is innovative. Nice
Just like a WOLED at low brightness 🔅 😮, thanks for the video
The ultimate vintage gaming CRT, same type the PDP-1 used to play Spacewar in 1962. The animation programs they made were pretty mesmerizing on that thing.
Wow $339.95 in 1953 was a LOT of money!!! That was the year I was born. I remember my Dad paid $1,000 for a 1950 Oldsmobile 88.
i love the radar crt! the high voltage tube had a lot of green corrosion ;-)
If you can obtain 6P1P, make an adapter for the octal 6V6. Same tube, much lower prices and many stockpiles of brand new ones in the former USSR. There's also the chinese 6P1 clone of the 6P1P. The military version (6П1П-EB / 6P1P-EV) should be a fairly decent as an inexpensive replacement, while the non "EV" version or the chinese ones should be a decent throwaway test tube as they are very cheap.
Cool radar tube!
Amazing that you got a pretty good picture even with that radar tube and minimal capacitor changes.
Video latency a stoners delight! Maybe the burnt spot on the fly back coil was the spider that got cooked...
Really cool crt! I'm amazed that you get all this crap running. "Stay free"!
Those of us in this hobby are fortunate that Phosphorus coatings inside these old crt's are very durable. Imagine if they degraded after 15 years well that would be it for the hobby.
First time I ever heard you laugh out loud but is kinda funny .....cheers.
Two videos in one day? Very cool. The radar CRT was very cool to see with a video signal.
The medicare bit was funny. Thanks for the awesome video!
What kind of marker did you use to mark the ion trap on the crt?
I would love to see a clip from Dr. Strangelove on that CRT!
I’ve built a TV glitch box I’d ❤ to use with that Radar tube…👍
@shango066, you're having wayyyyy too much fun! 🤣😂
As a California native, does Columbo wearing a raincoat year round make any sense whatsoever?
Yes because it fit the look.
Coincidentally Columbo is now on tv as I am writing this 😂
Where would he keep his cigars, raisins, candy, clues, etc.?
Who needs shrooms when you have long persistance phoshpor (get me my LPPs). Ghosts in the machine man.
Shango066, with that radar CRT, it makes you wonder how much X radiation is being emitted by it. Gotta be off the charts.
That metal shield on the CRT may have been because it originally used that antenna in the ceiling of the cabinet
Excellent video thank you!
Resurrection is much much more interesting to me than restoration. Restoring these is just a matter of hucking parts at it until it works and that's just not the right way to do things.
Edit: really cool to see that 6AX4 doing it's thing
When your money is good you feel good.
So true.
Cool tube ....some artistic shot there !!!!
That phosphor would instantly restore anyone’s declate and erase anyone’s crepes.
That RADAR CRT is awesome.
Actually, that AI got it spot-on: it figured out that it can’t sell you anything, so it promptly hung up.
That radar CRT looks like it could be turned into a very cool Fallout-esque computer terminal.
Thank you sir, appreciate the content.
Well Done, as always!
Just a side note. The scammers are getting smarter and if you start harassing them, they will use the 1980's outdated telephone act that states that you are guilty of up to a felony for harassing individuals on the phone. If you harass these people enough they will file a complaint with the FCC and have you either arrested or 99% of the time, have your phone disconnected. A friend of mine used to harass these people all day long because he was retired and didn't have anything else better to do and one day his cellphone stopped working. He kept his bills up to date with Verizon and he called them from my phone to figure out why he didn't get any reception and found out they banned him from their network for violating the harassment law and he is no long allowed to use their service. My mind was completely blown but finding out that fellow youtubers being raided and arrested for "harassing" scammers and fined over 10 grand and jailed for violating the law makes me wonder who really is on our side. It definitely isn't any alphabet soup government agency that is supposed to be working for "The People" and not against them.
12:00 - it’s like comet tailing on 1980s TV shows and music videos.
You are a GENIUS!!
The James Dean era CRT. Looks really cool
Danny DeVito has vertical problems, too.
You probably take your expertise for granted but wow dead chassy, radar tube, make shift focus ring and voila TV!
You can probably opt for a current production JJ 6v6. I have one in my guitar amp. Some say it's more like a "6VL6" as a joke. Other words, in between like that 6W6 you're describing.
Had to take that RF tube out and bang it on the table! Hahahaha I was laughing so hard! Great resurrection of that old Motorola Shang!
Thank you so much for your videos! 👍
That’s just a 60s thing, my dad did that up till 2010, he was the same age as Falk. He had a couple old hats too, and sometimes wore those, many men were NOT trendy lol.
How did you get only a vertical line with the vertical deflection being bad? I tried it on mine and only got a horizontal line.
Is the 6ax4 damper tube a Rad-Tel? Pulls, 2nds, used tested good tubes relabled Rad-Tel and sold at a discount by mail order!!
That's a great job buddy 👍
That high latency phosphor latency effect looks a lot like a filter you can apply to VLC media player, I think it's called motion blur
I thank you for the 'double shot' today.
dose that one cat still come around the one thats old af and its been on some of your old videos too i think its grey amd white
I think he passed away.
Since WWII resistors for the most part followed the E system, for what ever reason capacitors hung on to the old (RMA) system for years after. I have a few hundred .047 630V boxes for you if you want them (Private message to follow)...Caveat being they are PC mount with short legs.
The same with me, I will continue to be an electronic technician until I can't do anything, anymore!
That must be an absolute dream set for Fallout fans.
Now what you need to do is feed the TV a signal where only 2 frames out of the 30 are displayed and the other 28 are blacked out. That would be so trippy