LOOP CUT UP & FLYWHEEL REMOVED on Montezooma's Revenge at Knott's Berry Farm! | Vlog #1 | 7/21/22
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2022
- We visited Knott's Berry Farm on July 21, 2022 to check out the progress on the extensive renovation of the iconic Montezooma's Revenge. The loop has been cut up and flywheel removed!
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Montezooma....still near and dear to my heart
Everyone remembers this iconic coaster for the sound and sites it would make in the park every day from the ground Rumble it would make to attract you to it to the sound of the pneumatic brakes releasing indicating to Launch. This ride will be sadly missed. When it was created it was a technological Marvel. A flywheel and cable with just a little skate that hooked onto the back of the train and launched it at breathtaking speeds. Yes, LIMS are capable of doing the same thing, but it won't be the same rush. This was my very first looping roller-coaster I ever rode and I will forever miss it.
Very well said regarding the sounds it made! That's what I've been telling people too. And those who never rode just don't understand. It's like driving a classic car vs a modern one. The new car might be faster, smoother, etc. But doesn't have the same soul.
One of my favorite memories of Knotts is when my cousins and I rode Montezuma about 5x in a row because there was no line. Man those days were nice.
I loved being able to marathon Monte! Riding it never got old!
I rode it 30X while hiding a 35mm camera onboard & got a pile of photos.
This honestly is hard to watch and see. It makes me sad. The launch and loop were so forceful. I pray whatever they’re doing is worth it. I’m going to miss the sounds of the launch and loop. 💔
Yeah. It was hard to see. Monte was my go-to at Knott's. If I didn't ride anything else, I'd at least get a ride on Monte. The launch was so good. The forces in the loop too. The way it sounded. Just everything. Sigh.
Going to miss that sound too. I truly hope Knotts doesn't ruin our beloved Monte!
@@diazjr1975 With today's announcement, they totally are.
holy shit how did you read my mind, i was about to say that lol
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork Was their Monte announcement? I know a new Fiesta Village was shown.
Rode this 38 times in a row without missing a ride back in 98. Sad day for sure but definitely excited for the new ride
Perhaps the loop has been removed and cut up is because, it's evident Montezuma's Revenge will have an LSM launch system when it reopens next year, a new loop that's going to take the increased G force from possibly a new Train also.
Thanks, I'm sad too. It is a unique ride. Nice view of the flywheel and clutch. I was sad to see the loop missing when I was at the park. Seems they are putting in an all new ride. I'm an engineer and I understood they were going to change the launch system, but seeing that they removed the loop makes me think all new track. It would be hard to match old and new track. I'd think it would be cheaper and a longer life investment to replace all the track. I expect to see it all gone on my next trip.
Wow, So many memories of this ride throughout my Childhood, Teenage years, and adulthood, Sad to see the original go but, Knott's is a trustworthy park that rarely messes up projects.
That's true about Knott's doing a good job with renovations. As they did with Ghostrider, Log Ride and Calico Mine Train.
I didnt think they would blow torch it apart... wow :(
Yes I saw that. Can't undo that.
The montezooma revenge loop is burned
Sadness
This is crazy! I’m going to drive over there and check it out right now.
It sucks they got rid of Montezuma's revenge that was one of the best rides at Knott's
It’s just being renovated
@@thecoastergnome8603 No. Not really. It’s a whole new ride coming. Without the flywheel it loses it’s character and will never be the same ever again.
@@gregg5958 it’s really going to feel quite similar. Personally this is what better then the alternative of the ride being removed plus the theming will be super nice.
@@thecoastergnome8603 It won’t feel similar. How could it? It won’t have the flywheel system anymore. The track will be different. The train will be different. It will be a whole new ride, just with the same track layout. But it’s not like it’s a mere retracking like Big Thunder or even an exact rebuild like Space Mountain was. This will be something different in look/sound/operation/feel with very little in common.
@@gregg5958 the fact that its the same track layout means it will fell similar. they can make a lunch system that still has a kick to to it. and again this is way better then the ride being torn down for good.
They ripped that loop apart they’re definitely not putting that same loop back togethor
They should put in the same launch as Maxx Force at Six Flags. It’s just like the old launch but more powerful since it’s air compressed. The acceleration would be intense.
montezuma's revenge is way to small for a lunch as powerful as maxx force
This was the first roller coaster I ever rode, I remember being terrified and my older sister was excited but when we got off the ride she was crying and I was laughing. I discovered my love for roller coasters that day.
What a great first! It took me a lot of convincing to get on Montezooma's Revenge for the first time. Even though I had been on many other coasters, the launch and spike terrified me!
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork I was sad to see it mostly torn down when I took my son to Knotts for the vert first time last month, I wanted to take him on it.😢 kinda exited to ride it after the remodel though.
I'd love a piece of the loop
I'll take the whole thing!! Get me some rolls of duct tape and we're good!
atleast i got a ride on it about a year ago
I predict that Gerstlauer or Intamin is going to give it an LSM launch like Psyke Underground. On the bright side, there's still the one at Nagashima.
Yeah.... Time to go to Japan now. But there's also one being built in New York that's been relocated from Mexico.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork Oh there is? EDIT: There is. We can only hope it's going to actually be constructed and not just left in storage.
I wonder if the upgrade will be cost effective, less maintenance, and cheaper to run, i will miss the sounds and mechanics of this most excellent ride!
I’m pretty sure it will use less electricity with the magnetic launch.
@@SalivatingSteve I wonder how much electricity DID the flywheel take? I would love to know. I know it took awhile to get up to speed in the morning before a train could be dispatched.
Holding back tears and judgement. I get even with regular refurbs 44 years is a LONG run for even a steel coaster. I'm hopeful even with the new track and technology, it will technically be the same Zoom.
I remember in the queue before going up the ramp to the station you could see the flywheel. There were slats in a fence-like wall and watch it spin on the launch. Zoom will always be my favorite at Knott's.
I'm feeling like it won't feel like the same coaster at all. Especially with the vest restraints. And the loop profiling probably won't be as intense either. With that said, I'm super excited for the new theme. About time the ride fit in with Fiesta Village.
5:28, hopefully this means these pieces will be restored and brought back, while a new loop with identical dimensions will function just fine, it won't have the signature sound that we know and love from Montezuma. They better take proper care of this ride during it's renovation.
Hopefully everything gets rebuilt similar to the original. Still waiting to hear an announcement from the park. Fingers crossed.
Or relocate the loop to the Roller Coaster museum in Texas
@@johnfoltz8183 Actually news came out today that that is EXACTLY what has happened. Only the top part of the loop though. As well as the entire full train and entrance sign.
Damn I can't believe she's dead. :( I hope they don't take out Silver Bullet, ghostrider and other memorable ones... I saw this too yesterday as I went on silver bullet. This could also happen to poor Xcelerator. Oh... I was waiting to probably ride her in 2023 but... Oh Knott's is becoming less and less the Knott's I knew.
The other coasters are safe. Or at least should be. Xcelerator is the only maybe.
same before i started traveling the world to ride coasters the coasters here were my faveorite until i went to sixflags magic mountion a year later
I don't take they will take out Ghostrider because they just refurbished it not even a decade ago and it was the last ride built by the Knott's family before Cedar Fair bought the park
Never been to knotts but it seems this is a rebuild and not a refurbishment. Those Schwarzkopf loops are so iconic and unique im surprised they didn’t keep at least that element.
Yeah, Knott's totally lied when they said it was going down for an extensive refurbishment. In that announcement they even talked about how it was the first flywheel launch coaster. Why even mention its historical significance of it's being removed? What they are doing is basically building a new coaster. I mean, I can't see how a backwards launch could work any other way. With that said, I do find it interesting they haven't removed any of the launch track other than just before the loop. Maybe the LSMs will be side fins. So Knott's would keep the original launch track segment for purposes of track only.
Few Six Flags Parks had them... It came out 1978....
Your new phone works pretty well in the filming. Look forward to seeing the 4K version.
Thanks. And I ended up shooting it in only 1080. Didn't even think to check the settings. I'm happy with the video quality. But the audio isn't as good as on my Osmo Pocket.
Rumors are that Maurer is redoing the loop.
That'll be interesting!
I tell you I would have rather have seen him do it the Jaguar and destroy Jaguar that coaster needs work but it'll be interesting to ride this coaster when it's done can't wait
Would be nice if they build it taller 🤞🏻
I can confirm those pieces have been sent to the uk
Really? Why to the UK?
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork Cant say unfortunately
This may end up being a better ride if it is capable of multiple launches or even going through the course more than once like a Impulse coaster.
At least there will still be a shuttle loop at Knotts. Much better than the fate of every other Schwarzkopf shuttle in the US.
Cedar Fair removed the one from Great America,so at least that isn’t being done here. They are giving this one full attention for another 40 plus years of rides.
I’m guessing new trains as well. I wish they would use the nose from the Schwarzkopf trains. They are such great looking trains. Psyke Underground new trains are hideous. The new trains on Sooper Dooper Looper are plain looking. I don’t really care for the nose on the new trains on Revolution compared to the original ones.
This going to be remove it look very old so sad it was it very good coaster
Hey, anything to preserve this gem of a coaster.
But it's basically all gone aside from the spikes. Not going to be anything like the original.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork true
Something doesn't seem right. When I rode it in the '80's, the track was yellow. Then I saw in recent videos that it was repainted aqua-blue. Now in the parking lot, it is yellow again! Did they repaint it yellow again later?
I studied that flywheel when it was on the coaster (on Mondays when the park was open, but the rides not running). Clutch is geared 1:4 from the flywheel. The surface speed of the flywheel was on the order of 150MPH. When they shut the motor off, the flywheel required over 1/2 hour to coast down!
Colors went from yellow, to green, to finally gold which was darker than original yellow.
There calling it monteZOOMa the forbidden fortress and in the festa village animation it shows no vertical loop sad 😞
It'll still have a loop. It's just bad artwork. It's seen briefly in one shot.
I hope they don’t replace the flywheel with lsm, the launch is my favorite part. But it seems like they’re removing it
So far all the rumors are coming true. It's sad.
They HAVE to. It's old and outdated. Nobody makes the parts anymore and the park could only MAKE THEIR OWN PARTS for so long until THOSE machines eventually gave out.
I hope knotts puts in the hotel
New ride will launch (randomly) in either direction now, so safe to say the flywheel is gone forever and LSM it will be. ☹️
If they were going to plan to neuter Monte, they should have put Wicked Twister in its spot. .
Since it seems they will be replacing the iconic flywheel launch for some type of magnetic launch I have a small glimmer of hope, they they run it sort of like wicked twister, like a rollback off the loop before the full cycle, or just a double cycle with the brakes (stop) while going backwards
I was thinking the same thing regarding getting Wicked Twister. But someone in the know told me to not worry about Monte. That it'll turn out great. I hope he's right.
They recently announced it will have a randomized launch sequence where it can launch backwards out of the station.
Oh god… I hope Premier Rides doesn’t touch Monte
It's sad to see how they dismantle track so easily..This track is History..so many people have been on this and yet here it lies...so sad..Hopefully something better comes out..but if it was up to me I'd leave it as was.
Maybe they are putting a New flywheel and loop
It's getting a new loop for sure. But the launch system is still unknown. Rumors of LSM. But we'll see.
Welp, good luck Shuttle Loop At Nagashima
And now supposedly the loop has been "lost".
Maybe someone just left it behind the garbage can
I bet some enthusiast has it in his backyard now.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork right next to the flywheel they've been hoarding from SFOG
Knott's has to stop. They are getting rid of the Fly weel launch and they got rid of good ride.😐
Montezooma was not the first flywheel in California. Tidal Wave at Great America ins Santa Clara was.
Tital Wave was a weight drop launch.
Tidal wave at Great America did NOT use a flywheel launch that coaster used a weight drop launch system.
This is an extremely informative video. Keep producing great content! 🎢🎢🎢
Thanks :)
They’re not waiting on parts they’ve been hesitant to run Xcelerator since the accident with Top thrill dragster. It’s been no operational for the better part of a year. Now I will say it been a couple months but we were weekly regular with our passes and it has been down more than it’s been up since that accident.