Great episode guys. Thanks for taking your time to answer the hitting the hard hitting questions.....45mins into the video so far, still trying to ketchup
That Royal list really shows the mentality that pushes me to never play online. If you bring that in the real world you have to fully assembly and paint it at least. Then after you get it all out I can look you in the eye and concede. .
As the guy from the uk that actually did the 90 NG list, Josh has it spot on, the NG variant has lots of counter play and whilst hard to beat is very beatable. That TK list scares me though doubt it will see much play on table top due to the commitment to it. The SBOT rules have funky interactions between heralds and Challenges making it way stronger than it needs to be.
@davetime2545 how is it contentious? There's nothing in the herald special rule or anywhere in the challenge section which would indicate they can't transfer hits
Warhammer Fantasy Regiments is the old plastic set that Gommo talks about. Possibly a bit of a stretch to call it part of a 'first wave' of plastics unless you count the 40K stuff that appeared just before and after as no other Fantasy stuff really came out in plastic at the same time. Skeleton Army was an expansion of Skeleton Horde which I think was actually a couple of years earlier, maybe 1985? There are also even earlier Citadel plastics than that I think - the 'Psychostyrene Dwarfs' might be older than Skeleton Horde though I'm not certain. They made a big thing about the Regiments set in White Dwarf and the models appear in a number of the photos in 3rd Ed Warhammer Armies (the book of lists for 3rd Ed). Made out it was the future which it turned out to be eventually, but not until some years after as almost everything at least for Fantasy was metal for a good while afterwards. The models are pretty good, especially the Dwarfs, Wood Elves and Skaven to my mind. Still got them all. For everything apart from the Wood Elves and Dark Elves there were weapon options as well as heads so you could actually get four variants. One of the weapons was part of the model though so you had to cut that off and glue the other one on if you wanted to swap.
Thinking about it the Goblin is an archer as well so no weapon option (and like most of the others not a bad figure considering, at least with the helmet). Really should have remembered this as I painted one recently for my daughter.
I'm not sure if the big brick deathstar can survive against a big brick that can actually do melee damage Like if I have 20 swordmasters of hoeth, they're hitting skeletons on 2s, wounding on 2s, no armor save with their attacks at init 6. Sure you might be dragon proof but maybe normal units (that people don't take) would be able to chew through a ton of wounds and win eventually on combat res
Skele's could get up to WS 4 (+1 banner, +1 Tomb King), and you're -1 to hit if they take glittering, so you're hitting on 4s? I doubt you'd have 20 after stand-and-shoot though?
@oldworldfanatics the key to surviving stand and shoot is to have multiple units. They can only shoot one. So like say you had msu chariots for beastmen they could all rush in and only one can get shot to pieces
Great episode guys. Thanks for taking your time to answer the hitting the hard hitting questions.....45mins into the video so far, still trying to ketchup
Haha we know what the people want.
A 50 hard cap on unit is very likely desirable at this point. Also, GW needs to adress Travel Mystical Pathways.
That Royal list really shows the mentality that pushes me to never play online. If you bring that in the real world you have to fully assembly and paint it at least. Then after you get it all out I can look you in the eye and concede.
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Haha yeah purchasing, assembling and painting minatures for crazy ideas is alot harder than the online version for sure.
As the guy from the uk that actually did the 90 NG list, Josh has it spot on, the NG variant has lots of counter play and whilst hard to beat is very beatable. That TK list scares me though doubt it will see much play on table top due to the commitment to it. The SBOT rules have funky interactions between heralds and Challenges making it way stronger than it needs to be.
sbot rules? The herald rules aren't specific to sbot
@stonem0013 they ruled in favour of heralds taking wounds for the tk in a challenge. Its contentuous so could deal with an faq
@davetime2545 how is it contentious? There's nothing in the herald special rule or anywhere in the challenge section which would indicate they can't transfer hits
Goblin Hewers. The answer is goblin hewers.
Warhammer Fantasy Regiments is the old plastic set that Gommo talks about. Possibly a bit of a stretch to call it part of a 'first wave' of plastics unless you count the 40K stuff that appeared just before and after as no other Fantasy stuff really came out in plastic at the same time. Skeleton Army was an expansion of Skeleton Horde which I think was actually a couple of years earlier, maybe 1985? There are also even earlier Citadel plastics than that I think - the 'Psychostyrene Dwarfs' might be older than Skeleton Horde though I'm not certain.
They made a big thing about the Regiments set in White Dwarf and the models appear in a number of the photos in 3rd Ed Warhammer Armies (the book of lists for 3rd Ed). Made out it was the future which it turned out to be eventually, but not until some years after as almost everything at least for Fantasy was metal for a good while afterwards. The models are pretty good, especially the Dwarfs, Wood Elves and Skaven to my mind. Still got them all. For everything apart from the Wood Elves and Dark Elves there were weapon options as well as heads so you could actually get four variants. One of the weapons was part of the model though so you had to cut that off and glue the other one on if you wanted to swap.
Thinking about it the Goblin is an archer as well so no weapon option (and like most of the others not a bad figure considering, at least with the helmet). Really should have remembered this as I painted one recently for my daughter.
I really want to see an updated modern take on what empire is supposed to br doing these days. There's not a lot of content on empire thats recent
I don't think a unit of 200 teleporting state troop halberdiers is going to be all that effective to be honest.
I'm not sure if the big brick deathstar can survive against a big brick that can actually do melee damage
Like if I have 20 swordmasters of hoeth, they're hitting skeletons on 2s, wounding on 2s, no armor save with their attacks at init 6. Sure you might be dragon proof but maybe normal units (that people don't take) would be able to chew through a ton of wounds and win eventually on combat res
Skele's could get up to WS 4 (+1 banner, +1 Tomb King), and you're -1 to hit if they take glittering, so you're hitting on 4s? I doubt you'd have 20 after stand-and-shoot though?
@oldworldfanatics the key to surviving stand and shoot is to have multiple units. They can only shoot one. So like say you had msu chariots for beastmen they could all rush in and only one can get shot to pieces
@oldworldfanatics also i can get the swordmasters to be ethereal some of the time but not being able to do it on the charge was a huge nerf