@@sash0047 it's a single cylinder with less electronics too and with Baja ..so it should be cheaper than KTMs I am assuming.. My guess would be 3L-3.2L max Let's hope for the best.
So many new bikes locking horns. By the end of this year, sub 500cc segment is going to be completely revised, imagine the varieties that'll be available to riders. 2023 going to be one spicy meatball.
This year is going to be best year for mid range segment. This bike, HD440, Aprilia is coming with rs440 and Yamaha will launch r3. Damn so many options to choose with verity of models 😅
I want to Congratulate the Triumph Motorcycles Manufacturing company and the Team involved in designing,Developing and Manufacturing such a beautiful Champion 400CC Motorcycles🙏
Scrambler 400x looks more upmarket and big bike due its larger wheel, disk size, wheelbase and more importantly its color scheme while looks identical to Bonneville range.
as he points out in the video ,, the small air-cooled 350cc enfield hunter weighs 181kg wet.. Enfield needs to make their bikes lighter.. Some people like the nature of the long stroke air-cooled 350cc enfield engine ,, but they need slighty more power 10-15% and some serious weight reduction.. take of 12kg on all models.. A Hunter with a wet weight of 169kg and 30Nm of torque and 23.2hp.. , a 350 Meteor with a wet weight of 179kg and the classic 350 coming in at 183kg... the super meteor at 229kg. (not the heavy 241kg stock) This new engine has exactly the same bore (89mm) as the Bajaj Dominar 400 but a slightly longer stroke to increase midrange and bottom end torque..
Triumph/Bajaj F** up one thing that is the speedo, being a CBR 250 rider I love analog digital mix, but how could they flip the places of speedo and tacho...
New Launch of Triumph Speed 400cc, I humble requested to the Team's of Bajaj Triumph JV, please provide with add on accessories option such as: Smart Connect TFT Console, Tyre Hugger, Split Seat, Fuel Tank protector, Headlight Guards, Saree Guard with Footrest etc, finally I got my Dream Roadster Cruiser Bike myself Prasanth Nayar Agriprenure Andaman and Nicobar Islands Union Territory of INDIA. Since 2003 Bajaj Kawasaki 115 Hoodibaba
I'd like to nit-pick by asking for a better looking instrument cluster, better rear grab rail and maybe better tail lights, because for the time being it kinda looks like the ronin from the straight front and rear
@@varun2250No. You will can see the design of disk is different in both bike at 9:35 there are rivets on 400x disk connecting it instead of being one piece. This is superior in heat dissipation and other things.
The probability of these being priced under 3 lakhs is very slim. These are premium mid range bikes from a brand like Triumph, no way this is below 3.5 or 4 lakhs on-road for sure
Buddy, I would like to know the comparison of this T400 with KTM 390 ADVENTURE, Dominar 400, and Interceptor 650. Please keep this in your mind and try to review accordingly
@@tejasmithari bike is not just engine. Who the hell want shit features. Ergonomics matters. Braking matters. Handling matters. High speed stability matters. Nothing is impressive in RE650 except engine. I rest my case
As long as carplay doesnt come in lower range bikes, everything else is just gimmicks and i would rather they spend money on the mechanics than bluetooth and turn by turn
That's ugliest RPM meter I have seen in my life. Tail light is also not the best looking but overall its perfect and everything depends upon the pricing. Ideally it shouldn't cost more than KTM 390s. Tail light should have looked like CB350RS.
IMO I liked the design of tail light. I agree about instrument cluster on bike. It just doesn't support the premium feel the bike had. It feels cheap and aftermarket.
Screw the bluetooth.. buy a used phone for navigation... screw the electronics. Its adequate. I want a cheaper bike. We have seen what dropping electronics can do to prices with the Adventure 390.
Bajaj is plonking same engine into Dominar, KTM Duke, KTM Adv, Husqvarna Svartpilen & Husqvarna Vitpilen Nothing Unique just cosmetics..... Shame on Triumph & Bajaj for selling DOMINAR in new clothes KTM Engine is for speeding, racing not for roadster/cruiser/. Bajaj has no R&D they cannot even change gear ratios !! This TRIUMPHs are good upgrade for Pulsar Hooligans... It's after all a DOMINAR !!
I didn't understand what is the point of giving two speedometer 🤣🤣🤣 one in Digital and other in Analog 😂😂 change the analog speedometer to tachometer it will be fun.
According to the tie-up between Bajaj and Triumph, Triumph is not going share the engine with Bajaj, unlike the Bajaj-KTM deal (Dominar uses the same engine as the KTM Duke 390).
Agar Triumph ki ye koshish bhi nahi chali phir toh pakka hai india mei customers hi bekar hai. Bas Emotional Weight ki wajah RE liye jaa rahe over superior Triumph.
Anything below 3 lakh and this will be a huge success , looks like a pure triumph ... initially I was afraid it might have some design elements from bajaj but that's not the case.Looks phenomenal.
@@andrearizzuto6648 converting that to dollars won't give you a fair idea as prices cannot be normalized against different currencies or markets. In india ktm duke 390 is cheaper then ninja 300 and upcoming mt03. However it's the other way round in most of the countries.India is a very price sensitive market and the failure or success of the product depends on the pricing to a huge extent.
According to UK’s MOTO BOB: The ABS is switchable on the Scrambler 400x and non switchable on the Speed 400. Traction Control is offered on both models along with slipper clutch.
The bike looks spectacular, classic triumph design, torquey motor with good 9.5k rev limit. India price is going to be way less than international version
Considering it's a city motorcycle, and here in India it's more like the primary way of commuting and an occasional touring machine, please cover details like 1) Rider posture 2) Torque characteristics in the lower end (cover hill climbing, gear ranges and economical low speed city driving efficiency when compared to Royal Enfield) 4) Turning radius 5) Pillion comfort (sideways seating included) 6) 0 to 60, 0 to 100 time 7) Comfortable cruising speeds 8) Mirror angles and practicality for Indian scenarios
Please give us the authentic Wet Weights and Seat Heights, because Triumph India website says it is 841mm/186kg wet for the Scrambler and 798mm/170kg wet for the Speed 400, whereas all the major channels are saying it is 835mm/179kg wet for Scrambler and 795mm/170kg wet for the Speed400.
Everything as of now is perfect. Nothing major has been skipped. And pls stop this obsession with Bluetooth, rather have an affordable bike without Bluetooth than a costly one due to its inclusion. Now, if only the pricing is perfect, we’ll see a paradigm shift in the Indian motorcycling space. I’LL probably begin saving money…….
Indian buyers wants a good brand value bike but also wants price to be under 2-2.5 lakh😅. Bike looks super awesome and main thing is pricing and i am damm sure if it becomes a hit then triumph will brick other bikes also for india.
It's just price price price no attraction. It's a TATA NANO from Triumph & Harley. Worst design for poor people. If you see any other model design by Triumph & Harley you will see the difference. You would never feel proud while riding this bike. It's not anyone's dream bike.
Its the same DOHC setup with same power figures like KTM any single cylinder with DOHC above 350 cc with such power figures means high compression and it will ultimately result in high vibes...I don't think it will be refined for sure.. telling from past 1 year of experience on these kind of engines. Even cbr250r is DOHC but due to lower compression being single cylinder it was a refined legendary machine.. even KTM duke 250 is DOHC but 390 is not so Reliable and needs its tappet and and other things adjusted sometimes the rocker arm gets damaged and also many other things. Too much power in such single cylinder DOHC setup causes issues in reliability and refinement in the long run. The power and torque figure and also the compression shouldn't be that high as KTM i guess it will be same..
So there are bigger differences than you think. Firstly, it is counterbalanced, eliminating the harsh vibes. Next, not too rev happy, lower compression ratio = more torque and better all round rideability.
@@zigwheels for your kind info KTM also has counterbalancer and also a good one with highly durable bearings connected opposite to the coolant pumping fan, if you say it has lower compression than it will be fine..lets wait for compression and other details if it matches with ktm 390 i bet it will not be good for long term reliability
After watching this detail video - ua-cam.com/video/apXzoMnlR8g/v-deo.html I understand what need to be modified in Tvs Ronin to look it like a real scrambler. As ronin got everything what these triumphs has but didn't look that promising which triumph looks like.
This should be a twin cylinder. even if it was an air cooled sohc unit would be just fine. When market is already been flooded by single cylinder bike adding one more at premium price doesn't make sense.
All eyes are on the pricing
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It will be placed over 3.5 lakhs
@@sash0047 super meteor 650
@@sash0047 it's a single cylinder with less electronics too and with Baja ..so it should be cheaper than KTMs I am assuming..
My guess would be 3L-3.2L max
Let's hope for the best.
as per the premium quality of triumph above 3.5lakhs
So many new bikes locking horns. By the end of this year, sub 500cc segment is going to be completely revised, imagine the varieties that'll be available to riders. 2023 going to be one spicy meatball.
I have booked both let's see which one catches my eye and wins my heart ! Good time to be a biker in India !
Both looks beautiful. Hero-Harley Davidson designers should take note 🤦♂🤦♂
the speedo is kept in lines with the retro look and feel of the bike. TFT screens are for the moden bikes
This year is going to be best year for mid range segment.
This bike, HD440, Aprilia is coming with rs440 and Yamaha will launch r3.
Damn so many options to choose with verity of models 😅
I think x400 should be least expensive than others
@@Orson990 yes it's too generic compared to o other bikes.
I want to Congratulate the Triumph Motorcycles Manufacturing company and the Team involved in designing,Developing and Manufacturing such a beautiful Champion 400CC Motorcycles🙏
This is love at first sight ❤
Scrambler 400x looks more upmarket and big bike due its larger wheel, disk size, wheelbase and more importantly its color scheme while looks identical to Bonneville range.
as he points out in the video ,, the small air-cooled 350cc enfield hunter weighs 181kg wet.. Enfield needs to make their bikes lighter.. Some people like the nature of the long stroke air-cooled 350cc enfield engine ,, but they need slighty more power 10-15% and some serious weight reduction.. take of 12kg on all models.. A Hunter with a wet weight of 169kg and 30Nm of torque and 23.2hp.. , a 350 Meteor with a wet weight of 179kg and the classic 350 coming in at 183kg... the super meteor at 229kg. (not the heavy 241kg stock)
This new engine has exactly the same bore (89mm) as the Bajaj Dominar 400 but a slightly longer stroke to increase midrange and bottom end torque..
I'd rather pay for better hardware than stuff like bluetooth or navigation.
Looking forward to test riding the Speed 400.
Triumph/Bajaj F** up one thing that is the speedo, being a CBR 250 rider I love analog digital mix, but how could they flip the places of speedo and tacho...
Everything is bang on 🔥 but the only thing I slightly worried about is the cost of ownership (spares + service) 🥺
Please review the cruising speed, vibration luggage carrying capacity, and engine heating during the first ride review.
Someone pls share the official vdo . 😊
New Launch of Triumph Speed 400cc, I humble requested to the Team's of Bajaj Triumph JV, please provide with add on accessories option such as: Smart Connect TFT Console, Tyre Hugger, Split Seat, Fuel Tank protector, Headlight Guards, Saree Guard with Footrest etc, finally I got my Dream Roadster Cruiser Bike myself Prasanth Nayar Agriprenure Andaman and Nicobar Islands Union Territory of INDIA. Since 2003 Bajaj Kawasaki 115 Hoodibaba
Is the feel gonna be like a thumpy classic or smooth modern with classical design
A mix of both
I'd like to nit-pick by asking for a better looking instrument cluster, better rear grab rail and maybe better tail lights, because for the time being it kinda looks like the ronin from the straight front and rear
9:35 You can see 400x also has floating disk brake which are superior.
Doesn't the Speed 400 also have floating disk?
@@varun2250No. You will can see the design of disk is different in both bike at 9:35 there are rivets on 400x disk connecting it instead of being one piece. This is superior in heat dissipation and other things.
@@SurajSinghTomarArya Thank you for sharing this.
Speed scrambler has rc like disc rotor
Just a quick comparison of it with New 390 and Interceptor in your review
Now that ur price prediction for 400 is little incorrect what do think will be the pricing for duke 390
The probability of these being priced under 3 lakhs is very slim. These are premium mid range bikes from a brand like Triumph, no way this is below 3.5 or 4 lakhs on-road for sure
Is that miniature model of Imperiale 400 on the table?
Buddy, I would like to know the comparison of this T400 with KTM 390 ADVENTURE, Dominar 400, and Interceptor 650. Please keep this in your mind and try to review accordingly
Please do Harley x440 Triumph speed 400 and scrambler 400 comparison. After launch
Love it -lets see what the price is--Himalaya 450 in September will be the competition
I hope accessories of these bikes can be used for street twin too
Bhai i want to know will these two 400cc model motorcycles run smoothly with 20% Ethanol mix Petrol
They should hopefully be E20 compatible.
Price would definitely be north of 3 Lakhs, upto 3.5 lakhs, may be even more after fully accessorising.
Wait for the review
wheare is yamaha R3 & MT-03.....? after 4 years of waiting ...?
Look to have typical triumph quality and polish 👏👏👍
Tension in Hero Harley camp...😂
They messed the 440x hero hatley design
No tension. This will be more expensive than hero harley
Bajaj forcing Hero Harley to price 440x lower, then 440x price will force Bajaj to reduce the price a bit. Win for the customer 😅
Excellent initial impressions.. Loved the details ..
This will increase sales of RE interceptor if not of Bajaj Triumph for sure 😂😂😂😂😂
Except engine nothing is good in RE650
Bike features dekh ke nahi lete dost. Bike is meant to have a good engine. That’s whole experience is all about.
@@tejasmithari bike is not just engine. Who the hell want shit features. Ergonomics matters. Braking matters. Handling matters. High speed stability matters. Nothing is impressive in RE650 except engine. I rest my case
It is f**king triumph.
@@JC-nx5xxyuppp that's the reason that stopped me from getting it
itll sell like hot cake if pricing is right .
Looks dam good..waiting for the review
Since you mentioned spotting the bike yourself- How did that exhaust sound?
Hmm, wasn't that loud. But at 100kmph, I was battling wind noise more. So, all will be revealed on 5th
Guys , does it look like Ronin....?? Or just in videos
Compression ratio is 12:1 is it good??
2:50 is the best price
230 mm rear disc. But its shown 330mm @ 9:44
Sorry about that, late night chaos caused some errors. Will try to eliminate these in the future. Peace🙏🏻
@@zigwheels 👍👍
If they can price the scrambler @3.2lakhs...i'll be getting it no doubt
No chance. Ex showroom will be 3 lakhs above. In big cities on road will touch 4 lakhs
As long as carplay doesnt come in lower range bikes, everything else is just gimmicks and i would rather they spend money on the mechanics than bluetooth and turn by turn
it will cost about 3.5lakhs ex showroom
Scrambler alloys looks like Husqvarna and speed 400 looks like dominar alloys.
That's ugliest RPM meter I have seen in my life. Tail light is also not the best looking but overall its perfect and everything depends upon the pricing. Ideally it shouldn't cost more than KTM 390s. Tail light should have looked like CB350RS.
IMO I liked the design of tail light.
I agree about instrument cluster on bike. It just doesn't support the premium feel the bike had. It feels cheap and aftermarket.
We need a new mordern double cylinder sports bike in india . R15 is good for 2.5 lakhs for 155 cc single, i would pay 4 lakhs for a 300 cc double
Looks way better than hunter350
Screw the bluetooth.. buy a used phone for navigation... screw the electronics. Its adequate. I want a cheaper bike. We have seen what dropping electronics can do to prices with the Adventure 390.
Yeah Bluetooth, charging should come as accesories.
Jinko chaiye woh lele
Hero will now soon discontinue xpulse t and release xpulse scram as seen at eicma 2018!
Garib me waiting for the 250 version
Hope Bajaj won't kill brand of triumph
3.1 onroad and you have a buyer
Volume too low
I am sure RE Himalayan 450 is laughing!!
Speed 400 is beautiful but 400x more capability...
Ronin
We want to see BornevilT400😅😅😅
How about Thruxton 400
@@LauraLasan69 I want to see the senior style in the same body
Bajaj is plonking same engine into Dominar, KTM Duke, KTM Adv, Husqvarna Svartpilen & Husqvarna Vitpilen Nothing Unique just cosmetics..... Shame on Triumph & Bajaj for selling DOMINAR in new clothes
KTM Engine is for speeding, racing not for roadster/cruiser/.
Bajaj has no R&D they cannot even change gear ratios !!
This TRIUMPHs are good upgrade for Pulsar Hooligans... It's after all a DOMINAR !!
I didn't understand what is the point of giving two speedometer 🤣🤣🤣 one in Digital and other in Analog 😂😂 change the analog speedometer to tachometer it will be fun.
Digital isn't speedometer, digital part is trip/odo
@@zigwheels Ohh.. my bad..26k/m that may be the trip meters..
Look nice, but look like bajaj kelibar.
I see a Dominar 400 engine upgrade coming soon :)
Nope. Dominar prices would rocket ahead removing the vfm quotient
Rather need a Avenger 400
Upgrade how? The engine spec figures are same even if the cc is 398 cc
According to the tie-up between Bajaj and Triumph, Triumph is not going share the engine with Bajaj, unlike the Bajaj-KTM deal (Dominar uses the same engine as the KTM Duke 390).
@@aayushbhaskar8736 not the exact same. Boring is different between KTM and Bajaj 400cc
Triumph blatantly copied the Royal Enfield Hunter. This is clearly plagiaris
sir please remove the affordable bit from the subject.. its as per triumph .. but in indian market it will flop
कितने आए कितने गए 😂
Royal Enfield का कुछ बिग़ड नही पाए
Enfield को बस 1% मेहनत करनी है और ये सब line se बाहर
Agar Triumph ki ye koshish bhi nahi chali phir toh pakka hai india mei customers hi bekar hai. Bas Emotional Weight ki wajah RE liye jaa rahe over superior Triumph.
HERO×HARLEY X440
Will be better option
Look is not good
If price is more than 2:60 lack not ever one buy this bike 2:90 lacks me thora aur paisa dele ge tho RE ka 650cc bikes aa jayega
Bhikhari ke hath me sone ka katora doge to bhi mange to bhikh hi
RE kon lega. Triumph hi lega. Triumph is Triumph.
Both are ugly bikes 😭
Anything below 3 lakh and this will be a huge success , looks like a pure triumph ... initially I was afraid it might have some design elements from bajaj but that's not the case.Looks phenomenal.
How much is it in dollars?
@@andrearizzuto6648 converting that to dollars won't give you a fair idea as prices cannot be normalized against different currencies or markets. In india ktm duke 390 is cheaper then ninja 300 and upcoming mt03. However it's the other way round in most of the countries.India is a very price sensitive market and the failure or success of the product depends on the pricing to a huge extent.
@@andrearizzuto6648Under 5000 USD.
Now, bring a Tiger 400 and a Daytona 400..
No,keep the Daytona away from the single cylinder class.
Shitty single cyl Tiger?
@@killingmachinelp do u think they will develop a twin for tiger? Heard about platform sharing?
Daytona 🤕
Don’t give me hope.
They could have atlest bought daytona 765. 😭
@@thehungking 😂 can’t argue with that but hate triumph for discontinuing daytona
According to UK’s MOTO BOB: The ABS is switchable on the Scrambler 400x and non switchable on the Speed 400. Traction Control is offered on both models along with slipper clutch.
True
It is also noted that traction control also will be switchable on Scrambler 400x
@@mithunrajc that’s very very helpful especially when you’re on to trails
Yep, that's what it is.
The bike looks spectacular, classic triumph design, torquey motor with good 9.5k rev limit. India price is going to be way less than international version
What about CB350RS? Won't the Speed 400 directly compete with it? And in that case which one is a more value for money?
The Triumph 400s will cost at least 1lakh more than the CB. It's no competitor. The Duke 390, CB300R, G310R are their competitors.
Please do a comparison with the CB350 twins as well
Considering it's a city motorcycle, and here in India it's more like the primary way of commuting and an occasional touring machine, please cover details like
1) Rider posture
2) Torque characteristics in the lower end (cover hill climbing, gear ranges and economical low speed city driving efficiency when compared to Royal Enfield)
4) Turning radius
5) Pillion comfort (sideways seating included)
6) 0 to 60, 0 to 100 time
7) Comfortable cruising speeds
8) Mirror angles and practicality for Indian scenarios
Please give us the authentic Wet Weights and Seat Heights, because Triumph India website says it is 841mm/186kg wet for the Scrambler and 798mm/170kg wet for the Speed 400, whereas all the major channels are saying it is 835mm/179kg wet for Scrambler and 795mm/170kg wet for the Speed400.
International specs suggest the latter.
Everything as of now is perfect. Nothing major has been skipped. And pls stop this obsession with Bluetooth, rather have an affordable bike without Bluetooth than a costly one due to its inclusion. Now, if only the pricing is perfect, we’ll see a paradigm shift in the Indian motorcycling space. I’LL probably begin saving money…….
It's just kind of perfect bike
Bajaj Triumph 400X should be test drived
Indian buyers wants a good brand value bike but also wants price to be under 2-2.5 lakh😅. Bike looks super awesome and main thing is pricing and i am damm sure if it becomes a hit then triumph will brick other bikes also for india.
Introductory price should be 2,49,000 Rs.😊
What about mileage for these bikes ?? Can we expect atleast 25 to 30kpml ?
It's just price price price no attraction. It's a TATA NANO from Triumph & Harley. Worst design for poor people. If you see any other model design by Triumph & Harley you will see the difference. You would never feel proud while riding this bike. It's not anyone's dream bike.
Its the same DOHC setup with same power figures like KTM any single cylinder with DOHC above 350 cc with such power figures means high compression and it will ultimately result in high vibes...I don't think it will be refined for sure.. telling from past 1 year of experience on these kind of engines. Even cbr250r is DOHC but due to lower compression being single cylinder it was a refined legendary machine.. even KTM duke 250 is DOHC but 390 is not so Reliable and needs its tappet and and other things adjusted sometimes the rocker arm gets damaged and also many other things. Too much power in such single cylinder DOHC setup causes issues in reliability and refinement in the long run. The power and torque figure and also the compression shouldn't be that high as KTM i guess it will be same..
So there are bigger differences than you think. Firstly, it is counterbalanced, eliminating the harsh vibes. Next, not too rev happy, lower compression ratio = more torque and better all round rideability.
@@zigwheels for your kind info KTM also has counterbalancer and also a good one with highly durable bearings connected opposite to the coolant pumping fan, if you say it has lower compression than it will be fine..lets wait for compression and other details if it matches with ktm 390 i bet it will not be good for long term reliability
@@whiteshadow7892just wait a day mate.
would be good if made in Britain...but made in INDIA?? not worth it..sick of cheap companies outsourcing and lowering standards
After watching this detail video - ua-cam.com/video/apXzoMnlR8g/v-deo.html
I understand what need to be modified in Tvs Ronin to look it like a real scrambler. As ronin got everything what these triumphs has but didn't look that promising which triumph looks like.
This should be a twin cylinder. even if it was an air cooled sohc unit would be just fine. When market is already been flooded by single cylinder bike adding one more at premium price doesn't make sense.
it will be definitely dominar engine 😅 just like tvs and jawa did
It's more or less a scale down variant of Trident not Bonneville
Can't you ride both the bikes on july 5th? Why August for scrambler?
Dominor 400 has almost same power figures , does it mean ?🙂🙂🙂🙂
the pricing would be between 3.2 - 3.5 L if its lower than this theres a winner there is no such player in 400 segment
Yes, ex showroom price will be 3.2 lakhs. On road it will touch 4
If this comes under 3.5 lacs. it will sell the highest within 🇮🇳
Can you compare hunter 350 vs speed 400 vs 400x
Triumph India website says - Scrambler 400 weighs 186kgs wet & not 179.. 🤷♀️
Right
The international specs that we received have stated 179kg. Thanks for pointing it out.
Will it be sold in India from triumph dealership ?
So what about the < 2L price promise from B-T?
Triumph Tiger 400
What sensation it would be
But everyone is on fight with RE
Tvs ronin 225 copycat