Which neo-retro motorcycle will you buy between the #TriumphSpeed400 and the #HarleyDavidsonX440? And would you buy one of these over the #RoyalEnfieldClassic350? Do let us know your thoughts in the comments below.
I will wait for a scram 400. Also I would like to see the experience of the first set of customers and actually how both the companies live on their commitment of after sales service. Definitely as a product Triumph looks better from most of the aspects. Also of course Bluetooth and connectivity is not preferred over a 4 valve, dohc, ride by wire, liquid cooling, traction control or overall fit and finish and quality of break or tires.
My choose will be HD X440, as it has good asthetic muscle look which i prefer the most as i'm tall and healthy 😅..i'm not a rash driver which want speed and can bypass any traffic, i want a bike which can give me comfort with decent amount of speed, a good amount of torque power and sound like heavier side..😀
Exactly..... Many family riders will choose HD over triumph... Younger generation will chose triumph.... Even though triumph is good, it's a small fast bike for Indian traffic standard....
If it would be name HD 440 I would have bought it but now it has such a big name I don't like it doesn't catch the essence for me .. Truimph is no a bike it relates to life as well whenever Satan attacked to me and my God I have triumphed that's relates to my life so I like triumph
The Harley compares with the thunderbird 500 specs. 38Nm,27bhp, whereas the classic 350 givves much lower values. This kind of power for just 50000 extra will definitely be a pull towards the Harley. Especially since Royal Enfield does not have any bike in this power-torque range. And the 650 ccs are just too expensive.
@@BikeWaleOfficialit has 🇬🇧 map on it as a UK aspirant this is all I want to get more than what I wanted ... Plus the city I live in doesn't even have Triumph yet all just bought royal Enfield bakri jaise haalat hai logo ke and Chapri bike KTM so it's wonderful opportunity for a guy like me who has lead a miserable life on earth to get over all my competitors and feel great for once
I own a Harley x440 and Pros: Riding Experience Bass-y Exhaust Easily overtakes in traffic Road Presence HD Connect Features It’s a Harley after all. (RE doesn’t even come close) Cons: Front suspensions in off-road and speed bumps Brakes could’ve been more responsive (the brakes work fine so not much of a worry) Design (but once you’ll own it, the worry will diminish)
As far the turn by turn navigation goes, i find it pretty handy. Its not something you need that often but i own an Ather and it really has a very usable navigation system. You can send the location to the scooter with your phone and plan rides with the app. Its just the convience of having it on a big screen infront of you if youre going to meet friends at a new place or something. Its not a very important feature but a very comfortable one to have.
Thanks for the in-depth video highlighting pros and cons of 2 latest launched bikes. As a rider, I don’t care about the what spectators feel while seeing the bike but how I feel while riding the bike is important. So comfort, power, safety features comes in handy. I would definitely chose a speed 400 over a x440. I booked it too 👍😊.
Triumph will be like Dominor where people will click to purchase it due to price and performance but once engines grind up and loose the shin . Long stroke bikes will recover
As an American, I doubt if the H-D X440 will get to the USA. However, if it does get to the USA I would prefer it to the Triumph 400. I have 20 years invested in H-D Buells for track and street. For an around town bike with limited highway excursions, my preference is for the bit heavier, torque laden and superior H-D service, indicating the X440 for me. H-D is all over the USA while Triumph, RE, KTM are located near fewer larger cities. The H-D service is excellent and the warranty on the X440 is impressive. Both are great bikes and just what is needed for the beginner and those of us who track and street ride but would like to have a bike that is less frenetic. Thanks for the extended review.
*Premium motorcycles are built in Thailand: BMW Motorrad, DUCATI, triumph and Harley-Davidson. Will the H-D X440 be assembled here in sunny tropical THAILAND. Johnny BikeSanooK! The septuagenerian KAWASAKI Vulcan 650 rider/owner*
Parabéns por este vídeo! Gostei muito pois me foram esclarecidas diversas dúvidas sobre essas duas Motocicletas (eu, particularmente prefiro e vou comprar assim que chegue ao Brasil) uma TRIUMPH SPEED 400 cor Azul, linda, potente, leve, belo painel retro porém completo, suspenções excelentes. Os brasileiros estão esperando ansiosamente por estas motos aqui mas acho que só as Trimph SPEED E SCRAMBLER, acho que a Harley não virá, pelo menos até agora aqui no Brasil os UA-camRS nada comentaram. Saúde e felicidade para vocês.
Very simple & basic difference between a Triumph & Harley.. Triumph is known for their street bikes along with other varieties worldover.. While Harleys are about Cruisers made for highway.. A street bike is basically, mainly meant for everyday use inside city.. Then to have additional abilities to cruise on a highway or attack some corners.. Cruisers we know.. Sit on a highway relaxedly all day long.. So it's fairly easy to choose between both keeping the use case..
I do test drive both bike.... Both are good in their way.... Speed 400 is good look and well build👍 engine refinement is not quite well... X440 build quality is low... Engine exhaust note and refinement are great❤️ it's an characterful bike.... Take test drive and choose your riding partner... I choose x440
Triumph is giving almost everything at this price point.. 1. Build quality 2. Fit & Finish, better design 3. Better engine 4. Better pricing 5. Longer service interval 6. Premium bike feel Harley is mainly famous for it’s legacy, heritage and cult following. For a bike enthusiast, if the soul of the bike matters then only Harley makes a strong case. Everything else is at Triumph’s side. ** waiting for my Scrambler 400X to arrive✌️✌️
Just like 440x is not allowed to be sold anywhere but India...similarly 350x is not allowed to be sold outside China although the 350x looks better than the 440x. Harleys name will be smeared if these two were two be sold anywhere else 😂
I would choose Bluetooth connectivity and navigation over traction control, but maybe not over ABS. I usually play music and use navigation when riding. Also answering calls when riding is important to me.
As response to your query at 22:00 : I do long rides on my Xpulse 200 BS6 and I do use the Bluetooth enabled turn by turn nevigation. I find this feature as an important addition, especially while on long ride.
Sir you made the important point Brakes which are very important in india. Traction control is important especially on indian roads. So I will go for triumph 400 for sure.
Truimph actually i met with a accident and my hand is fractured my joint is broken and it hanging in my right finger so it really affects my decision relativity as i can pick hard wight i am Goku in world in terms of picking heavyweight i fight the world but I'll pick any weight i lifted cyclinder with my fracture hand and had no plaster on it but still i am so fond of truimph its so beautiful just looking like a wow just looking ljke a wowww. So i lost some faith to pick up harley davidson has it would remarkably put strain on my injured fractured arm which can't be healed without operating it
Nice comparison, a review I've been waiting for. I'm in the market for a new bike.. but I'll hold on to my money till the Himalayan 450 is launched. Even then I would like to wait for atleast 6 months because all the three engines are fairly new and there would be teething issues. A comparison between these three after the Himalayan is launched would be awesome. Fan of vikrant sir and bikewale also carwale for a long time.
@@Yashzlegend 3 lakh rupees is not an easy money for me dude.. it's my 60 percentage of my yearly income. I don't wanna spend that kind of money on a bike to get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Also, there is a concern to put 3 lakhs on a depreciating asset with the economy going sideways. So, a little patience goes a long way imo.
@@thanoskills7178 Certainly. Already understood what you were saying. Actually, I've also been waiting since long for upgrading to a premium bike but unable to decide while the time passes swiftly. P.s. I have an Apache 1604v and a RE TB350 and now have finally booked Speed 400 after cancelling INT650.
HD seems like a versatile bike since it has low & mid range torque for city riding. Makes it nimble & agile compared to the high revving Speed400. Two completely different motorcycles not worthy of comparison, a cruiser & a roadster.
Ride by wire and traction control are far important features than the Bluetooth connectivity! Triumph just nailed the price point by providing the important features and cutting on the unnecessary bits!
Ride by wire and traction control are not important. I don't know how the ride by wire is on the Speed 400 but on the 390 Duke it is crap. Traction control is hardly necessary on a 40 HP bike.
@@twowheeledparadox Traction control is a safety feature and it is good to have it in wet conditions. It is a very important feature to have for new riders. Bluetooth connectivity inthe other hand is not a necessary feature.
@@souviksarkar578 Traction control is good to have on a powerful motorcycle. These bikes are only 40 HP and below. With the right tyres and proper throttle management, you don't need TC in these motorcycles. Bluetooth is a nice-to-have feature but not necessary either. Over-reliance on these features is not conducive to developing good riding skills.
@@twowheeledparadoxone cannot be perfect at all time it's what humans are we are not machines so we need safety features than some colour dash and distracting Bluetooth settings all time okay. Have a little thought about it. Good day
I like the looks on Harley, but Speed 400 is more vfm and exciting. Also the seat hight on the 440x should’ve been less than 760mm, it was supposed to be a cruiser.
I have Apache 200 4V and the nevigation on the bike is decent. I use it when I travel in an unknown place. I have another Hunter350 with the Tripper. And that tripper can be actually confusing until you use TWS.
I will probably wait 1.5 yrs before buying Scrambler400x because by then everything will be out in the open. The long term service reliability, high altitude performance, touring capacity, availability, etc. I also believe RE and Harley will upgrade their options by then
It’s Speed 400 for me ! I like the ‘Brand Triumph’ much more than ‘Brand Harley’ in the first place, followed by the looks, fit & finish, features and performance and of course the stunning price ! I made an impulse purchase decision and booked one (I’ve a Kawasaki Vulcan S which meets the low Rev torque & power requirements along with Cruiser style ‘laid back’ riding characteristics)
Thank you for detailed comparison. Personally I don't value the navigation and connectivity features on a motorcycle. I would rather wear a Bluetooth earphone and keep the phone in my waist bag and get audio directions. The good old kick starter has been done away with and we get a dozen sensors which might well turn out to be the Achilles heel on a ride in a remote area. We like to know about ground clearance, compression ratio vis a vis the competition, mileage too in your next review. RE and Honda will sell volumes like before as even if some migrate to Triumph and Harley bikes, there is a huge population of 150 cc aspirants who are upgrading. In fact RE and Honda's pricing will be supported by such bikes coming into the market. Likewise it will help the new bikes like RTR 300 to be priced higher.
Agree. Based on all the other UA-cam reviews they seem to be leaning more towards the speed 400 due to its better specs, and better build quality. For me it’s a winner by default since the X440 has not been announced for the US market yet.
One big difference between the two is that the Triumph is a global product made up to global standards while harley is just a badged harley only for indian market.
Most helpful advice folks. Suvil as you tested the Triumph, plz answer- does it heat a lot, enuf to hinder riding? Also would you recommend touring on it and at what revs would the vibes interfere.
Hey, thanks. So I too rode the Triumph, and no, it didn't run hot. But we got rain for most part and ambient temperatures were mostly low. However, Bajaj tells us, they have worked towards ensuring a cooler running bike.
How does Harley X440 compare with other long stroke such as Honda Highness 350 and Royal Enfield 350. It doesn't make much sense to compare long strokes with short strokes except that they were launched in almost the same time bracket. A better comparison for the Triumph 400 would be similarly high revving , liquid cooled short stroke motor cycles such as the Yezdi and Jawa.
Well for me harley looks really good, it's just that it looks incomplete without back rest, if harley would have launched it with the back rest that they currently provide, it would have looked really good....
@BikeWaleOfficial Thanks for your prompt response. I am riding a Ronin which suits my 5.7 feet frame , 60 years age and offers me upright riding and very comfortable posture . I don't ride above 80 kmph and seeking your advise whether this Triumph will offer me more comfortable riding posture
I will buy Harley, because 1. Indian road conditions does not support more than 80 kmph in city, 100/110 kmph in the hiway. 2. It is good, if I want to sit with my wife on this Harley in traditional dresses. 3. No body ride the bike always on highway for every day. 4. A bike is also a family member, long stroke engine bikes stays more than 15 years with us. Changing bike for a middle class person before and after marriage is very difficult. 5. Harley definitely gives 4 to 5 kmpl more mileage than Triumph speed, it's pocket friendly too. A family man definitely picks Harley Davidson. I loved it. Hat's off to Hero, it always concentrates family men toooooo ...😊
Nice review. As owner of RE TB500 since 2013, 51+, 6'1" and 88 kgs, and having daily commute in crowded stop and go unruly traffic, I'm bending towards the S400 inspite of it being small, because it will be more manoeuvrable in that type of traffic, has alloys, looks, more feature ride by wire, tc, is lighter, and a very important factor of once a year service or 16000 kms service interval. I'll also consider the X 400 variant once it's out. Everything will boil down to it's service centers and spare availability.
booked speed 400( in first 10,000 customers), waiting for test drive. I am 5.6 and did classic test drive, it was heavy for my taste but seating position was good, Hunter was little lighter but seating position was weird, just for fun took a test ride on Gixxer SF and really liked it as seating position is not as aggressive as R15. So now jus waiting for Street 400 to make decision between 400 or Gixxer SF. Can you please comment on weight of Street 400 wrt Classic.
Wow surfed whole internet for this sort of detailed comparison video Could you please also upload video of Harley ride review with pilion on Indian road as your previous review was on performance track without pilion, that will be great 👍
This was a nice video about comparing both the bikes but it seemed that there was some restraint being shown towards describing the hero davidsons build quality or lack of it. The most sticking point for me was the way the accelerator cable juts out upward at the handle bar. I really wanna know who approved that eyesore. Coming back to the the bluethooth question then I'd like to add that having it is non essential for me. I won't be using it as much. Unless I am travelling to an unknown place. Also it would be more of inside the city navigation so not at any speed to cause harmful viberations for a mobile. I am absolutely ok not having it. And also I like tonise Google maps as it's more accurate with traffic. But hardware options that can only be integrated at factory level with no after market option are an absolute must. Like the radial 4 pot brakes or slipper clutch.
Firstly, we are a hoot you liked the video. Now, the Harley isn't poorly built. But yes, could it have been better finished in the sense that the cables could be better routed and the motorcycle’s neck was less visible? Absolutely. As for the restraint, we only spoke about things see were 100 per cent sure about. We couldn't comment on the reliability, or longevity, of the HD because it's not something we have experienced.
Not released here in the UK so thanks for a great review. Triumph is pretty, Harley looks a mess, they lost the plot since Willie G left. New Sportster is ugly as well, that exhaust times.
Sir, i drove triumph.. it is awkward looking for height of 6ft tall person. But harley is not like that. I have booked it immediately.. anyways, thank you sir
Could you please add the seating comfort! I mean do you feel it is a punishment like KTMs!!? There are a few talks about the liquid cool reserver being very close to the ground, that it may get crashed on a bad road. What is your take on that !? How you presume the comparative service experience and cost of service and spares. Are Triumph's existing customers happy and the smaller bike will get the same attention !!??
Seatin comfort is similar on both bikes, maybe slightly better on the X440. No issues with the Liquid cooling system. These bikes are locally manufactured by Bajaj and Hero in India. The service costs will be similar to Bajaj/KTM/RE bikes. Spare parts cost will be similar too.
I need a bike which will have the cb350rs looks, harley x440s comfort cruising and ergonomics and triumph speed 400 build quality fit and finish , and the last thing is seat should be comfortable for 2 persons which bike i need to choose..can you please guide me
Nice distinguish.. Can u also highlight the below if possible: clutch.. gear change.. build quality.. Specifically I saw HD has most of the pieces metal.. that also gives an edge over Triumph.. service cost.. Mileage.. Better one for daily commute.. Better one for the pillion rider..
Many thanks for such a in-depth review, wondering if you would be help me decide between Harley vs meteor 350 , thou i know it may not be directly possible. Requirements is simple, daily commute in city traffic. Still asking
Both are equally good. The Harley would be a peppier motorcycle and it has a greater brand recall. We'd suggest you to wait for a few months and then buy the X440.
I use Bluetooth on my 390 Duke so that I am aware of incoming calls. It's a different matter that I have still missed several calls because I pay more attention to the road than to the console.
Well I am also very conflicted about those 2 bikes, but the 2 valves in harley can cause some serious heat issues as it is in hero xpulse. This might be a deal breaker for me.
Harley is a low revving motor and hence does not heat up and this justifies air cooling...valves are just for better breathablity nothing to do with heat produced...xpulse 2v had a smaller oil cooler than 4v model and hence more heat
@@BikeWaleOfficial So I am seriously considering one of those two bikes, I will use the bike mostly for commuting to my office on weekends maybe a little bit of highway ride. In cities I like to stay mostly in 30- 50 range and for the highway drives I will go 110 highest which one should I go for Triumph or Harley.
In my 20s i bought my first bike yamaha fzs . Its been 11 years and did only 60k on meter . But now i m on my early 30s and looking for a laid back bike . Royal enfield i tried classic 350 for months but dindt like . Thunderbird for good time but not convinced . Finally booked HD 440X lets hope it doesn't disappoint me .
@@sachindixit6816 great, thanks. Mostly they deliver in September or October . For sure , you will be getting a better final version in terms of fit and finish. Good Luck!!
I have an Apache rr 310 bs6 and it has turn by turn navigation. I have barely used it 2-3 times and that too only when I knew the route and was testing the system. It takes time to setup, crashes regularly and is not reliable. So my opinion would be that it is a gimmick and I would prefer using Google maps instead.
Hi can you please let me know how is this bike for a tall rider. I am 6 feet tall will I feel it very short ? Or too small for a tall rider .? Also when I took the test drive I felt that the brakes were not confidence inspiring and lastly the Traction control on was quite intrusive for riding. Please let me know your thoughts
Being a beginner with just an Activa. What would you guys suggest me? Should I go for something of a lower CC like the Apache 200 4V or I should just directly go for Speed 400? I can stretch my budget for the Triumph. My height is 5'11 with an average build. Commenting while watching the video😛, thank you so much for the indepth video!
Speed 400 performance will be close to 650 interceptor.... better to go for a bike with less performance and learn to brake properly since CBS brakes on Activa is very forgiving.. from apache 160 4v to bajaj N250 will be very comfortable range for you.
@@abhikachieverofdailygoals1621 bike shouldn't overwhelm your senses.. first of all he will be coming from a 100kg scooter to a 170kg bike which is also taller and more top heavy. Plus figuring out gears and foot brake. Plus powerful disk brakes. Plus the pulling power can be intimidating. Even x440 is better than speed 400. It's like giving fighter jet to a commercial pilot. Or a truck to a car driver. There is a reason why truck and car licences are different. Even in UK there are 2 categories of bike licences. Once he is familiar with the handling of a more friendly motorcycle he can shift to a more powerful bike. A single fall can bring life-long injuries. Anyways I believe modern 250cc are good for 99% use cases in India.
Bajaj is praised before launch Hero is praised after 5/10/15/20/25 years Remember Vikrant bike from Bajaj which had air craft carrier's steel on it's tank (it turned out to be a 3rd class bike) Triumph twins has same Duke390 engine character, so same as KTN Adv/Dominar, begs to be ridden fast. Hero has churned out fantastic bike, cruiser character
Yes, they are different motorcycles. But, they compete in the same price segment and both are neo-retro motorcycles. And since many users had been asking for a comparison between the two.
@BikeWaleOfficial hi I am looking to book harley, but worried about handling it. I am currently 167 cm in height. will i be able to manage it. my wt is around 60 kg
I didn't like the Speed 400 design, whereas, Harley is a heavy brand with very good design, especially the tank. I am not a high-speed person, so low-end torque is much needed for me, which completely fulfills my needs. So I've booked the X440
Which neo-retro motorcycle will you buy between the #TriumphSpeed400 and the #HarleyDavidsonX440? And would you buy one of these over the #RoyalEnfieldClassic350? Do let us know your thoughts in the comments below.
Scrambler 400x.....Booked....Waiting to ride the Triumph
Triumph is one's mistress while Harley can be the wife 😂
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 Hahaha. That's an excellent analogy.
@@Truly-Nitin Congratulations 🎉
I will wait for a scram 400. Also I would like to see the experience of the first set of customers and actually how both the companies live on their commitment of after sales service. Definitely as a product Triumph looks better from most of the aspects.
Also of course Bluetooth and connectivity is not preferred over a 4 valve, dohc, ride by wire, liquid cooling, traction control or overall fit and finish and quality of break or tires.
My choose will be HD X440, as it has good asthetic muscle look which i prefer the most as i'm tall and healthy 😅..i'm not a rash driver which want speed and can bypass any traffic, i want a bike which can give me comfort with decent amount of speed, a good amount of torque power and sound like heavier side..😀
Fair point.
Same reasons as me. I am also inclined to choose HD.
Exactly..... Many family riders will choose HD over triumph... Younger generation will chose triumph....
Even though triumph is good, it's a small fast bike for Indian traffic standard....
The Triump looks the part the Harley looks like a cheap imitation it looks small and silly.
If it would be name HD 440 I would have bought it but now it has such a big name I don't like it doesn't catch the essence for me ..
Truimph is no a bike it relates to life as well whenever Satan attacked to me and my God I have triumphed that's relates to my life so I like triumph
between the two ， I choose speed 400 😊
Because of its higher versatility, it is suitable for work on weekdays or holiday trips
Fair point 👍
its dominar engine on a triumph face
No ..😂 ...u can easily look at the difference by which side the chain sprocket is... clearly it's the difference
@@jithendranb4090 tell me your stupid without telling me
400x anyday for more leg room ; ;
The Harley compares with the thunderbird 500 specs. 38Nm,27bhp, whereas the classic 350 givves much lower values. This kind of power for just 50000 extra will definitely be a pull towards the Harley. Especially since Royal Enfield does not have any bike in this power-torque range. And the 650 ccs are just too expensive.
Fair point.
Agree, the Triumph one- just by looking at it you'll feel happiness, even though it's very simple design (and I've ridden Harleys for 7+ years 😂)
Well said 👍
@@BikeWaleOfficialit has 🇬🇧 map on it as a UK aspirant this is all I want to get more than what I wanted ...
Plus the city I live in doesn't even have Triumph yet all just bought royal Enfield bakri jaise haalat hai logo ke and Chapri bike KTM so it's wonderful opportunity for a guy like me who has lead a miserable life on earth to get over all my competitors and feel great for once
I own a Harley x440 and
Pros:
Riding Experience
Bass-y Exhaust
Easily overtakes in traffic
Road Presence
HD Connect Features
It’s a Harley after all. (RE doesn’t even come close)
Cons:
Front suspensions in off-road and speed bumps
Brakes could’ve been more responsive (the brakes work fine so not much of a worry)
Design (but once you’ll own it, the worry will diminish)
As far the turn by turn navigation goes, i find it pretty handy. Its not something you need that often but i own an Ather and it really has a very usable navigation system. You can send the location to the scooter with your phone and plan rides with the app. Its just the convience of having it on a big screen infront of you if youre going to meet friends at a new place or something. Its not a very important feature but a very comfortable one to have.
Thanks for the in-depth video highlighting pros and cons of 2 latest launched bikes. As a rider, I don’t care about the what spectators feel while seeing the bike but how I feel while riding the bike is important. So comfort, power, safety features comes in handy. I would definitely chose a speed 400 over a x440. I booked it too 👍😊.
Congratulations on your booking! And we are happy you enjoyed this video.
I feel like given the nature of the engine. The Hero Harley will have a bigger fanbase in the long run.
Quite possibly, provided Hero Harley take care of the service and offer a premium experience to the customers.
Well Said everyone does not look for top speed only
Triumph will be like Dominor where people will click to purchase it due to price and performance but once engines grind up and loose the shin . Long stroke bikes will recover
As an American, I doubt if the H-D X440 will get to the USA. However, if it does get to the USA I would prefer it to the Triumph 400. I have 20 years invested in H-D Buells for track and street. For an around town bike with limited highway excursions, my preference is for the bit heavier, torque laden and superior H-D service, indicating the X440 for me.
H-D is all over the USA while Triumph, RE, KTM are located near fewer larger cities. The H-D service is excellent and the warranty on the X440 is impressive. Both are great bikes and just what is needed for the beginner and those of us who track and street ride but would like to have a bike that is less frenetic. Thanks for the extended review.
*Premium motorcycles are built in Thailand: BMW Motorrad, DUCATI, triumph and Harley-Davidson. Will the H-D X440 be assembled here in sunny tropical THAILAND. Johnny BikeSanooK! The septuagenerian KAWASAKI Vulcan 650 rider/owner*
I'd go for HD anyday.. man it has some character. I prefer character over good looks ❤️
It has looks too man.
Ok. Fair point.
Parabéns por este vídeo! Gostei muito pois me foram esclarecidas diversas dúvidas sobre essas duas Motocicletas (eu, particularmente prefiro e vou comprar assim que chegue ao Brasil) uma TRIUMPH SPEED 400 cor Azul, linda, potente, leve, belo painel retro porém completo, suspenções excelentes. Os brasileiros estão esperando ansiosamente por estas motos aqui mas acho que só as Trimph SPEED E SCRAMBLER, acho que a Harley não virá, pelo menos até agora aqui no Brasil os UA-camRS nada comentaram. Saúde e felicidade para vocês.
I am glad to hear the review as I too have lower back pain. I was a bit worried about the ride quality on bad roads. Thanks a lot
We are that we could help you and you liked our review. Thank you 🙏🏽
I already booked x440😅 but still watching this .and ..i m happy with my decision
Very simple & basic difference between a Triumph & Harley.. Triumph is known for their street bikes along with other varieties worldover.. While Harleys are about Cruisers made for highway..
A street bike is basically, mainly meant for everyday use inside city.. Then to have additional abilities to cruise on a highway or attack some corners..
Cruisers we know.. Sit on a highway relaxedly all day long..
So it's fairly easy to choose between both keeping the use case..
Well summarised. But here, the Harley X440 should also be a very good city/urban motorcycle.
@@BikeWaleOfficial191kgs & 1418mm wheelbase cannot make a bike good in city 🤷♀️
Navigation is a must have feature. I use it very often on my Suzuki Vstrome 250 sx
Ok 👍🏼
I do test drive both bike.... Both are good in their way.... Speed 400 is good look and well build👍 engine refinement is not quite well...
X440 build quality is low... Engine exhaust note and refinement are great❤️ it's an characterful bike....
Take test drive and choose your riding partner...
I choose x440
I’m in a shock! RIP Suvil.
Looks triumph 100% but For riding fun x440 is my choice cause i don't rev like crazy high
Ok 👍🏼
Triumph is giving almost everything at this price point..
1. Build quality
2. Fit & Finish, better design
3. Better engine
4. Better pricing
5. Longer service interval
6. Premium bike feel
Harley is mainly famous for it’s legacy, heritage and cult following. For a bike enthusiast, if the soul of the bike matters then only Harley makes a strong case. Everything else is at Triumph’s side.
** waiting for my Scrambler 400X to arrive✌️✌️
Both bikes are equally good, but both cater to different kinds of riders.
I have ridden Harley, not up to the mark. 😊
Triumph speed 400 is much much better ❤
Also another thing to note, is that both are doing performance better than RE 350s/cb350
Yes, they are.
I just searched for the Harley X 350 and I must say it looks great. Hope they bring it to India soon. It will be a good competitor to Triumph Speed
Nope, the X350 won't be launched in India.
Just like 440x is not allowed to be sold anywhere but India...similarly 350x is not allowed to be sold outside China although the 350x looks better than the 440x. Harleys name will be smeared if these two were two be sold anywhere else 😂
@@avid_biker true😂
@@BikeWaleOfficial 😢
Harley davidson is bringing nightster 440....its official...
I would choose Bluetooth connectivity and navigation over traction control, but maybe not over ABS. I usually play music and use navigation when riding. Also answering calls when riding is important to me.
This is by far the most helpful video than any other review.
Glad you liked our comparison review. Thank you 🙏
I suggest you to please look at MotorInc's first impressions. The way he tells is a totally different experience.
ab tak ka best discussion...baar baar rewind karke dekh raha hun
That's very endearing to hear. Glad you liked it. Thank you 🙏
Harleys are childhood dream for 90s kids, however the next gen doesn't have any emotions for Harley
As response to your query at 22:00 : I do long rides on my Xpulse 200 BS6 and I do use the Bluetooth enabled turn by turn nevigation. I find this feature as an important addition, especially while on long ride.
Ok,fair point 👍
Sir you made the important point
Brakes which are very important in india. Traction control is important especially on indian roads. So I will go for triumph 400 for sure.
Truimph actually i met with a accident and my hand is fractured my joint is broken and it hanging in my right finger so it really affects my decision relativity as i can pick hard wight i am Goku in world in terms of picking heavyweight i fight the world but I'll pick any weight i lifted cyclinder with my fracture hand and had no plaster on it but still i am so fond of truimph its so beautiful just looking like a wow just looking ljke a wowww. So i lost some faith to pick up harley davidson has it would remarkably put strain on my injured fractured arm which can't be healed without operating it
Nice comparison, a review I've been waiting for. I'm in the market for a new bike.. but I'll hold on to my money till the Himalayan 450 is launched. Even then I would like to wait for atleast 6 months because all the three engines are fairly new and there would be teething issues. A comparison between these three after the Himalayan is launched would be awesome. Fan of vikrant sir and bikewale also carwale for a long time.
Man! Wait some more and you'll be buying toy bikes for your grandkids. 😅 JK.
@@Yashzlegend 3 lakh rupees is not an easy money for me dude.. it's my 60 percentage of my yearly income. I don't wanna spend that kind of money on a bike to get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Also, there is a concern to put 3 lakhs on a depreciating asset with the economy going sideways. So, a little patience goes a long way imo.
@@thanoskills7178 Certainly.
Already understood what you were saying. Actually, I've also been waiting since long for upgrading to a premium bike but unable to decide while the time passes swiftly.
P.s. I have an Apache 1604v and a RE TB350 and now have finally booked Speed 400 after cancelling INT650.
Let's scrape some knees while we can.
P.s. I'm turning 29.
@@Yashzlegend hear ! Hear !
HD seems like a versatile bike since it has low & mid range torque for city riding. Makes it nimble & agile compared to the high revving Speed400. Two completely different motorcycles not worthy of comparison, a cruiser & a roadster.
Ride by wire and traction control are far important features than the Bluetooth connectivity! Triumph just nailed the price point by providing the important features and cutting on the unnecessary bits!
Ride by wire and traction control are not important. I don't know how the ride by wire is on the Speed 400 but on the 390 Duke it is crap. Traction control is hardly necessary on a 40 HP bike.
@@twowheeledparadox Traction control is a safety feature and it is good to have it in wet conditions. It is a very important feature to have for new riders. Bluetooth connectivity inthe other hand is not a necessary feature.
@@souviksarkar578 well said sir.
@@souviksarkar578 Traction control is good to have on a powerful motorcycle. These bikes are only 40 HP and below. With the right tyres and proper throttle management, you don't need TC in these motorcycles. Bluetooth is a nice-to-have feature but not necessary either. Over-reliance on these features is not conducive to developing good riding skills.
@@twowheeledparadoxone cannot be perfect at all time it's what humans are we are not machines so we need safety features than some colour dash and distracting Bluetooth settings all time okay. Have a little thought about it. Good day
I like the looks on Harley, but Speed 400 is more vfm and exciting.
Also the seat hight on the 440x should’ve been less than 760mm, it was supposed to be a cruiser.
The X440 isn’t a cruiser, it’s a roadster.
@@BikeWaleOfficial It was supposed to be a cruiser. We don’t have many.
@@das400s Cruisers don’t really work in India. It’s a niche segment.
speed 400 gunning for hunter/cb/yezdi and harley gunning for classic/ meteor, but RE is countering by atleast 6 launches lined up in next 1 year
Well said 👍🏼
you guys made everything clear. very usefull comparison.
Thanks Vimal.
Regarding features, I use the Beeline sat nav, cheap, basic and your phone can stay safe in your pocket.
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Great chat very informative. I made my decision as I understood the difference. Thanks❤
Thank you for the appreciation 🙏
I have Apache 200 4V and the nevigation on the bike is decent. I use it when I travel in an unknown place.
I have another Hunter350 with the Tripper. And that tripper can be actually confusing until you use TWS.
Good to know it's a feature that riders do end up using.
I will probably wait 1.5 yrs before buying Scrambler400x because by then everything will be out in the open. The long term service reliability, high altitude performance, touring capacity, availability, etc. I also believe RE and Harley will upgrade their options by then
You have a fair point.
which bike is better for city , scrambler 400x or speed 400 considering comfort first priority ?
Speed 400
Please list out the pros and cons of both the bikes in the description so that makes easy for us to analyse
We will do it soon. Meanwhile, you can refer the chapters for the pros and cons.
I'd take the Speed 400 anyday! Over any bike! Just because it an absolutely amazing bike!!!
It’s Speed 400 for me ! I like the ‘Brand Triumph’ much more than ‘Brand Harley’ in the first place, followed by the looks, fit & finish, features and performance and of course the stunning price !
I made an impulse purchase decision and booked one (I’ve a Kawasaki Vulcan S which meets the low Rev torque & power requirements along with Cruiser style ‘laid back’ riding characteristics)
Ok 👍🏼
Congratulations 🎉
If u have Vulcan u will definitely for speed…but remember this is one the best crusier bikes
Information is in-depth Nice, covered all pros n cons. Thanks
Happy to note it was helpful.
Thank you for detailed comparison. Personally I don't value the navigation and connectivity features on a motorcycle. I would rather wear a Bluetooth earphone and keep the phone in my waist bag and get audio directions. The good old kick starter has been done away with and we get a dozen sensors which might well turn out to be the Achilles heel on a ride in a remote area. We like to know about ground clearance, compression ratio vis a vis the competition, mileage too in your next review. RE and Honda will sell volumes like before as even if some migrate to Triumph and Harley bikes, there is a huge population of 150 cc aspirants who are upgrading. In fact RE and Honda's pricing will be supported by such bikes coming into the market. Likewise it will help the new bikes like RTR 300 to be priced higher.
Fair point. We will talk about the mileage and ground clearance when we get the bikes for a proper road test.
Liked the both but hesitation is in the after sale services? What about availability, cost of services, spare parts??
Hero and Bajaj will handle after sales service respectively for both the bikes. It shall be decent and up to standards by early next year.
HD 440X is something I am looking for… will customised the exhaust though 😅
Ok 👍🏼
Consider that it might compromise the exhaust note
Speed 400 💥
Ok. Why?
Agree. Based on all the other UA-cam reviews they seem to be leaning more towards the speed 400 due to its better specs, and better build quality. For me it’s a winner by default since the X440 has not been announced for the US market yet.
Very informative and well researched.
Thank you. Hope you have subscribed to us.
I prefer the Triumph over the Harley. Looks, fit and finish etc.
Should we wait for first lot to go out for speed considering the number of service outlets?
Bald guy died
Harley is beginning to sound like a replacement for the 500 cc Enfields. Is that a fair assessment? Thanks!
You may say so. However, it has a character of its own.
One big difference between the two is that the Triumph is a global product made up to global standards while harley is just a badged harley only for indian market.
Harley will also be sold in few emerging markets. But the focus is in India.
Most helpful advice folks. Suvil as you tested the Triumph, plz answer- does it heat a lot, enuf to hinder riding? Also would you recommend touring on it and at what revs would the vibes interfere.
Hey, thanks. So I too rode the Triumph, and no, it didn't run hot. But we got rain for most part and ambient temperatures were mostly low. However, Bajaj tells us, they have worked towards ensuring a cooler running bike.
@@vikrantsingh6916 thanks Vikrant. Awaiting your extensive city commute review
How does Harley X440 compare with other long stroke such as Honda Highness 350 and Royal Enfield 350. It doesn't make much sense to compare long strokes with short strokes except that they were launched in almost the same time bracket. A better comparison for the Triumph 400 would be similarly high revving , liquid cooled short stroke motor cycles such as the Yezdi and Jawa.
Well for me harley looks really good, it's just that it looks incomplete without back rest, if harley would have launched it with the back rest that they currently provide, it would have looked really good....
Interesting revelations. Just wondering about the rider footpeg positioning of Triumph which seems to be more rearset than being neutral like Harley.
Yes they are rear set, but they are comfortable and natural to stand up.
@BikeWaleOfficial Thanks for your prompt response. I am riding a Ronin which suits my 5.7 feet frame , 60 years age and offers me upright riding and very comfortable posture . I don't ride above 80 kmph and seeking your advise whether this Triumph will offer me more comfortable riding posture
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 We believe the HD X440 will be more comfortable than the Triumph Speed 400 for your requirements.
@@BikeWaleOfficial Thanks
I will buy Harley, because 1. Indian road conditions does not support more than 80 kmph in city, 100/110 kmph in the hiway. 2. It is good, if I want to sit with my wife on this Harley in traditional dresses. 3. No body ride the bike always on highway for every day. 4. A bike is also a family member, long stroke engine bikes stays more than 15 years with us. Changing bike for a middle class person before and after marriage is very difficult. 5. Harley definitely gives 4 to 5 kmpl more mileage than Triumph speed, it's pocket friendly too.
A family man definitely picks Harley Davidson. I loved it. Hat's off to Hero, it always concentrates family men toooooo
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Nice review. As owner of RE TB500 since 2013, 51+, 6'1" and 88 kgs, and having daily commute in crowded stop and go unruly traffic, I'm bending towards the S400 inspite of it being small, because it will be more manoeuvrable in that type of traffic, has alloys, looks, more feature ride by wire, tc, is lighter, and a very important factor of once a year service or 16000 kms service interval. I'll also consider the X 400 variant once it's out. Everything will boil down to it's service centers and spare availability.
Great work guys!
booked speed 400( in first 10,000 customers), waiting for test drive. I am 5.6 and did classic test drive, it was heavy for my taste but seating position was good, Hunter was little lighter but seating position was weird, just for fun took a test ride on Gixxer SF and really liked it as seating position is not as aggressive as R15. So now jus waiting for Street 400 to make decision between 400 or Gixxer SF. Can you please comment on weight of Street 400 wrt Classic.
The Speed 400 is much lighter and also easier to flick around in traffic.
@@BikeWaleOfficial thanks Sir for the confirmation!! 😀
I like long stroke engines in banglore like cities... Less fatigue more desired for me in my busy life
Wow surfed whole internet for this sort of detailed comparison video
Could you please also upload video of Harley ride review with pilion on Indian road as your previous review was on performance track without pilion, that will be great 👍
Thank you 🙏🏽
We will definitely do that when we get the bike for a proper road test.
Which would have better pillion comfort.
Does HD will gonna have back rest accessories
This was a nice video about comparing both the bikes but it seemed that there was some restraint being shown towards describing the hero davidsons build quality or lack of it. The most sticking point for me was the way the accelerator cable juts out upward at the handle bar. I really wanna know who approved that eyesore.
Coming back to the the bluethooth question then I'd like to add that having it is non essential for me. I won't be using it as much. Unless I am travelling to an unknown place. Also it would be more of inside the city navigation so not at any speed to cause harmful viberations for a mobile. I am absolutely ok not having it. And also I like tonise Google maps as it's more accurate with traffic.
But hardware options that can only be integrated at factory level with no after market option are an absolute must. Like the radial 4 pot brakes or slipper clutch.
Firstly, we are a hoot you liked the video. Now, the Harley isn't poorly built. But yes, could it have been better finished in the sense that the cables could be better routed and the motorcycle’s neck was less visible? Absolutely. As for the restraint, we only spoke about things see were 100 per cent sure about. We couldn't comment on the reliability, or longevity, of the HD because it's not something we have experienced.
hi, is the Honda CL500/300 arriving this festive season? @@vikrantsingh6916
Not released here in the UK so thanks for a great review. Triumph is pretty, Harley looks a mess, they lost the plot since Willie G left. New Sportster is ugly as well, that exhaust times.
You are right, the Harley X440 is not the best looking motorcycle. But its engine performance is very good.
Sir, i drove triumph.. it is awkward looking for height of 6ft tall person. But harley is not like that. I have booked it immediately.. anyways, thank you sir
nice comparison...but i still feel, Honda CB 350 is the closest competitor of RE Classic 350 (personal opinion)
You are right. The X440 offers a similar experience, while being more powerful, premium and offering a better brand recall.
@@BikeWaleOfficial thanks for your feedback, hope Harleys showroom availability is not as pathetic as honda' s bigwing dealership
@@abhbandtsi Yes. Plus, it will be available at Hero’s premium showrooms as well.
What about service centre? Do hero and bajaj provide the service to these bikes?
Could you please add the seating comfort! I mean do you feel it is a punishment like KTMs!!?
There are a few talks about the liquid cool reserver being very close to the ground, that it may get crashed on a bad road. What is your take on that !?
How you presume the comparative service experience and cost of service and spares. Are Triumph's existing customers happy and the smaller bike will get the same attention !!??
Seatin comfort is similar on both bikes, maybe slightly better on the X440.
No issues with the Liquid cooling system.
These bikes are locally manufactured by Bajaj and Hero in India. The service costs will be similar to Bajaj/KTM/RE bikes. Spare parts cost will be similar too.
@@BikeWaleOfficial Thank you .
I need a bike which will have the cb350rs looks, harley x440s comfort cruising and ergonomics and triumph speed 400 build quality fit and finish , and the last thing is seat should be comfortable for 2 persons which bike i need to choose..can you please guide me
Nice distinguish.. Can u also highlight the below if possible:
clutch..
gear change..
build quality.. Specifically I saw HD has most of the pieces metal.. that also gives an edge over Triumph.. service cost..
Mileage..
Better one for daily commute..
Better one for the pillion rider..
Build quality - Triumph
Pillion rider - Mostly X440
In rest all the parameters, both bikes will be evenly matched.
Many thanks for such a in-depth review, wondering if you would be help me decide between Harley vs meteor 350 , thou i know it may not be directly possible. Requirements is simple, daily commute in city traffic. Still asking
Both are equally good. The Harley would be a peppier motorcycle and it has a greater brand recall. We'd suggest you to wait for a few months and then buy the X440.
Excellent video. Would love your comments on pillion comfort and handling in terms of space and suspension with 2-up riding.
We haven’t tested that, but initial impressions seem positive. We will test these bikes thoroughly when we get them for a road test.
hero Mavrick vs vstrom sx which is best for touring
Great video guys - I just subscribed
why compare the speed rather than scrambler 400x ? higher for taller riders. is HD good for 2 up riders for 180 cm; 6' tall riders ?
In my Apache i haven't used Bluetooth feature in single time also 😂
Yeah that's n overrated feature
Hahaha, that speaks for itself.
@@prabankumarbasumatary7809 👍🏼
I use Bluetooth on my 390 Duke so that I am aware of incoming calls. It's a different matter that I have still missed several calls because I pay more attention to the road than to the console.
Well I am also very conflicted about those 2 bikes, but the 2 valves in harley can cause some serious heat issues as it is in hero xpulse. This might be a deal breaker for me.
It's a relaxed motor, shouldn't have much heating issues.
Harley is a low revving motor and hence does not heat up and this justifies air cooling...valves are just for better breathablity nothing to do with heat produced...xpulse 2v had a smaller oil cooler than 4v model and hence more heat
@@BikeWaleOfficial So I am seriously considering one of those two bikes, I will use the bike mostly for commuting to my office on weekends maybe a little bit of highway ride. In cities I like to stay mostly in 30- 50 range and for the highway drives I will go 110 highest which one should I go for Triumph or Harley.
@@somnathdey158 Harley X440
Where did you rode? the roads are so neat and clean and green...
Triumph in Pune and Harley at Hero's test track.
Are those vibrations in speed 400 similar to the vibrations on bs3 Duke 390?
Nope. Much settled.
How bout vibration levels in x440. Why no mention about it
There are vibrations post 4,500rpm, but they aren’t a dealbreaker in any way as the bike sits comfortably at 100kph at 4,500rpm.
Triumph will go unnoticed on the road!...have u seen how unbelievably small it looks on the road!? Even the Mavrick 440 has a better road presence!
In my 20s i bought my first bike yamaha fzs . Its been 11 years and did only 60k on meter . But now i m on my early 30s and looking for a laid back bike . Royal enfield i tried classic 350 for months but dindt like . Thunderbird for good time but not convinced .
Finally booked HD 440X lets hope it doesn't disappoint me .
They will fix all the small points before delivery. What is the delivery date given by your dealership?
@@tsplitart they will approach before 15 August and then further date will be given for delivery .
@@sachindixit6816 great, thanks. Mostly they deliver in September or October . For sure , you will be getting a better final version in terms of fit and finish. Good Luck!!
Triumph scrambler 400❤
Whether harley have vibrations at any rpms?
Did they fix the brake issue (con mentioned for x440)? I want to buy it after that cone has been fixed
Great video, but please do something about the background static noise. Its really irritating.
What about fit and finish of HD 440x which was largely talked about?
It's average, especially compared to the Triumph.
is speed 400 good for guys above age of 40, mainly on the fact of comfort??
riding posture might be an issue.
Its good... test ride both and decide
I have an Apache rr 310 bs6 and it has turn by turn navigation.
I have barely used it 2-3 times and that too only when I knew the route and was testing the system. It takes time to setup, crashes regularly and is not reliable. So my opinion would be that it is a gimmick and I would prefer using Google maps instead.
I don’t understand why this guys is comparing triumph with ktm bcoz the video is on triumph vs Harley Davidson
Hi can you please let me know how is this bike for a tall rider. I am 6 feet tall will I feel it very short ? Or too small for a tall rider .? Also when I took the test drive I felt that the brakes were not confidence inspiring and lastly the Traction control on was quite intrusive for riding.
Please let me know your thoughts
I would pick TC and ride by wire then Bluetooth connectivity... Anyway turn by turn navigation is not as helpful as a mobile Mount
That's a fair point.
Being a beginner with just an Activa. What would you guys suggest me? Should I go for something of a lower CC like the Apache 200 4V or I should just directly go for Speed 400? I can stretch my budget for the Triumph. My height is 5'11 with an average build. Commenting while watching the video😛, thank you so much for the indepth video!
Speed 400 performance will be close to 650 interceptor.... better to go for a bike with less performance and learn to brake properly since CBS brakes on Activa is very forgiving.. from apache 160 4v to bajaj N250 will be very comfortable range for you.
Unless you can handle the performance of the Speed 400, we would recommend you going for a 200/250cc motorcycle.
Check cb350rs or highness
@@pranay220if any chance he buy that what would be his problem??
@@abhikachieverofdailygoals1621 bike shouldn't overwhelm your senses.. first of all he will be coming from a 100kg scooter to a 170kg bike which is also taller and more top heavy. Plus figuring out gears and foot brake. Plus powerful disk brakes. Plus the pulling power can be intimidating. Even x440 is better than speed 400. It's like giving fighter jet to a commercial pilot. Or a truck to a car driver. There is a reason why truck and car licences are different. Even in UK there are 2 categories of bike licences. Once he is familiar with the handling of a more friendly motorcycle he can shift to a more powerful bike. A single fall can bring life-long injuries. Anyways I believe modern 250cc are good for 99% use cases in India.
Bajaj is praised before launch
Hero is praised after 5/10/15/20/25 years
Remember Vikrant bike from Bajaj which had air craft carrier's steel on it's tank (it turned out to be a 3rd class bike)
Triumph twins has same Duke390 engine character, so same as KTN Adv/Dominar, begs to be ridden fast.
Hero has churned out fantastic bike, cruiser character
Vikrant is very good
i dont think they compete with each,
hd compete with re,
while speed is of other category
Yes, they are different motorcycles. But, they compete in the same price segment and both are neo-retro motorcycles. And since many users had been asking for a comparison between the two.
@BikeWaleOfficial
hi I am looking to book harley, but worried about handling it. I am currently 167 cm in height. will i be able to manage it. my wt is around 60 kg
If you ridden classic 350 then you can easily ride this
I didn't like the Speed 400 design, whereas, Harley is a heavy brand with very good design, especially the tank. I am not a high-speed person, so low-end torque is much needed for me, which completely fulfills my needs. So I've booked the X440
Makes sense for your requirements. Congratulations 🎉
I also booked X440 Matte black S
@@Noposin8980 congratulations 🎉
@@Noposin8980how much cost bro final onroad price for top varient?
@@kishorekishu4199 around 3.2-3.3 L
Since triumph is small and lighter than x440, it need traction control in order to avoid spinning off wheel