Myths and Religion of the Ancient Turks (Rise of the Gokturks 2)

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  • @tengrikhagan6135
    @tengrikhagan6135 4 роки тому +23

    That's some cinematic visuals right there, holy cow. Keep it up.

  • @xxxxxPr0xxxxx
    @xxxxxPr0xxxxx 4 роки тому +17

    good job! can't wait for episode 3.

  • @gogeyeryuzune9095
    @gogeyeryuzune9095 4 роки тому +23

    Kutlarım. Tanrı size esenlik versin.

  • @effendi77
    @effendi77 3 роки тому +16

    Interesting. My own paternal line is from Northern Punjab, we are Hindus, categorised as Brahman, however, there are a few pieces of traditions that are intriguing and indicate that my ancestors might have had some link to the Altai people who came to be known as the Alchon Huns, and settled in the region about 1700-1500 years ago, and had their capital in the city of Taxila, right next to the homestead of my ancestors, in Northern Pothwar, which is now in Pakistan. One of our traditions was the slaughter of a lamb or a goat and offering its meat to the Eagle, a bird that was said to have saved, protected, and brought up an ancestor. Although Brahmans, we had very little in common with the mainstream Hindu religion. It is worthwhile to say that the caste system itself has developed in its present form in the past 1200 to 800 years. That leaves a lot of interesting possibilities. My Y lineage is a mystery clade of R-M198, it has been speculated as a subclade of Z280, and I tend to have some fair trace of Siberian-type autosomal admixture, along with North East Asian, it makes me wonder what might have been the origins of my paternal line, 60 to 80 generations ago, which was a very long time ago.

    • @effendi77
      @effendi77 2 роки тому

      @antech well, those in the North Western Punjab did, and they also were into game hunting. They made an exception for beef though, which is part and parcel of Hindu taboo for several centuries.
      And its not the the R1a lineage that I am speaking of, the unusually high North Eurasian(Siberian-Altaic) autosomal admixture, its not as high as you would find among the Turks, but it does indicates a distant ancestry.

    • @effendi77
      @effendi77 2 роки тому

      @antech if you meant all the Brahmans are not vegetarians, than you are poorly informed. Kashmiri Pandits, for instance, have lamb as a key part of their diet, so do Garhwali Brahmans, as well as many in the North Eastern States. The community which is mostly vegetarian, and spread across the country, are the Banias, especially the Jains.
      And what Turks are you speaking of? Turkic or Turkish? And what is a Turanoid anyhow?
      Turkish people are mostly ANF, Eurasian(Yamnaya Type combined with Siberian-Altaic and some NE Asian), some Levantine as well as some Iran N. While the Turkics, the easterly ones, such as the Uyghurs, and Uzbeks, who do have a little ANF, and very little, trace-level Iran N & levangine, but high Siberian-Uralic and NE Asian, along with some significant Yamnaya. The farthest, the Altaics have NO Levantine at all.
      I think you should first learn the history of the Turkics, about their ethnogenesis and early expansion, which is what this video speaks of.
      And Indians DO have some Mongol, which is high in the Himalayas and the North East, along with some Yamnaya, with the Jats carrying it as high as 40%, and some Brahmans scoring around 30%, and most having the BMAC, of which Iran Neolithic was the primary component and of course the Ancient South Asian. African is prevalent among some South Indian populations, along with descendants of Arab Muslim Migrants.

    • @effendi77
      @effendi77 2 роки тому +1

      @antech do you even know how the caste system began evolving a few centuries after the start of the common era? That was also the time Hinduism developed. Hinduism, as we know it today, developed after Buddhism began fading, I meant Buddhism, which was earlier adopted by the Kushans, the Indo-Scythians, but strongly opposed by the Alchon Hun king Mehrkul, whose Kingdom spanned NW parts of modern South Asia and had his capital in what is now Sialkot. His persecution of Buddhists is legendary, and it is likely that the Turkic Trident is what the Shavite Trident is based on, Mehrkula's known to have adopted a kind of religion which later evolved into what we know as Shaivism, however the original religion of the Huns(Hephthalites or Alchons) was Tengrism. It is altogether possible that some traces of the ancient faith remained, embedded in the folk memory, and the reverence to the Eagle is certainly an instance of that. As far as eating meat is concerned, Vedic people would have been meat eaters, I doubt how a pastoral people could have survived otherwise. The meat taboo in Hinduism is as old as the development of Hinduism itself, a millennium + a few centuries old, that is.
      I think you still need to read up a lot, instead of casually referring to terms without knowing anything deeper about them.
      And yeah, the reverence of eagle is not very widespread, not even in Rawalpindi and around(I have discussed this widely with people who live there today), where my family are originally from, I know of just two clans, and both carry the same Patrilineal/Y DNA clades. incidentally, the other people, who have a similarly decent Altaic-Siberian autosomal admixture, are some of the people of Pakistan's Azad Kashmir, who speak the same language(dialect) as we do, however they are all entirely Muslim and their sacrifice of the lamb/goat is mostly specific to Eid al-Adha or the Aqeeqa, and the meat is consumed by humans, not offered to anything, such as a deity.

    • @effendi77
      @effendi77 2 роки тому

      @antech And Gokturks were not the first Turks, there were Proto-Turkics long before them, the Xiongnu, followed by the Huns, centuries prior. In fact, the Turkic ethnogenesis can be traced back to the Paleo-Siberians, as linguistics and cultural traditions lend support as proof.

    • @effendi77
      @effendi77 2 роки тому

      @antech I don't need to write stories or prove anything, Proto-Turkic language(s) existed a thousand years before the emergence of the Gokturks(the Ashena Clan).
      I am curious, what are you, yourself, a Turk?

  • @d4b4b4
    @d4b4b4 3 роки тому +8

    oh this is so good it sends shivers down my spine

  • @OnlyOneHunnids
    @OnlyOneHunnids 3 роки тому +5

    Great video quality bro learnt a lot about the gokturks. Migrations have played a huge part in human history.

  • @ahmeduygun7320
    @ahmeduygun7320 4 роки тому +8

    Atatürk'ün en sevdiğim sözüdür ve son zamanlarda daha relevant olduğunu hissediyorum

    • @ahmeduygun7320
      @ahmeduygun7320 4 роки тому +1

      @Bozkurt postuna bürünmüş yobaz AraB devesi Haklısın o esnada o aklıma gelmiş yazmışım
      1 Yaygın Kullanım relevant s. konuyla ilgili
      2 Yaygın Kullanım relevant s. konu ile ilgili
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      7 Genel relevant s. güncel konularla ilgili
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      13 Genel relevant s. bağıntılı
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      16 Genel relevant s. konu ile ilişkili
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      21 Teknik relevant s. ilgili
      22 Dilbilim relevant s. ayırıcı
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      24 Dilbilim relevant s. bağıntılı
      7. maddedekiydi demek istediğim

  • @SedatKPunkt
    @SedatKPunkt 3 роки тому +3

    Helal olsun...Gute Arbeit abgeliefert:
    Das hast Du gut drauf.
    Geschichte muss man nämlich immer objektiv und nüchtern vermitteln.
    Alles andere macht einen verdächtig...
    Bravo...

  • @tee_brickg3435
    @tee_brickg3435 4 роки тому +6

    Wow your Videos are great!!! How is it that I didn't know you? You are great man❤

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Of course, we always appreciate feedback. Stay tuned for more episodes.

    • @tee_brickg3435
      @tee_brickg3435 4 роки тому

      @@KhansDen of course I will :)

  • @aslanersoy8970
    @aslanersoy8970 4 роки тому +12

    Anatole Klyosov the Russian genetic scientist has rejected the iranic-saka theory and expresses that Scythians were actually Turks, you can check it out

    • @0808phoenix
      @0808phoenix 3 роки тому

      No, they were not!

    • @aslanersoy8970
      @aslanersoy8970 3 роки тому

      @@0808phoenix oh I was so ignorant, thank you for your detailed information. I'm now enlightened so much !

    • @0808phoenix
      @0808phoenix 3 роки тому

      @@aslanersoy8970 The Scythians, had nothing to do with the Gokturks! According to some sources, the Scythians were Indo-Europeans, whilst the Gokturks were Asians.

    • @0808phoenix
      @0808phoenix 3 роки тому

      @@aslanersoy8970 You should make inquiries about Kul-tegin's appearance! In 2014-2015 in Maihaan-uul(Mongolia), was found an interesting cave. There was Kul-tegin's portrait.

    • @aslanersoy8970
      @aslanersoy8970 3 роки тому

      @@0808phoenix western Turks are different in looks than eastern ones, so what? You're talking like every Russian is blonde blue eyed, tajiks even have different looks among themselves I mean those who are in Iran are different than those in Tajikistan. looks are determined by where you live. What is important is that We have common culture and we are proud of it and you guys should stop being such a pain in the ass

  • @muratyucel9011
    @muratyucel9011 Рік тому

    EMRE YAVUZ…
    Thank you for the great educational videos… some body had to do it…

  • @anyelo68
    @anyelo68 3 роки тому +2

    I fell in love with your videos.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  3 роки тому

      Thank you. Glad you like them! :)

  • @RTX2080TIGAMES
    @RTX2080TIGAMES 3 роки тому +5

    Im half Turk half Mongol
    Im Hazara

  • @luizpereira7922
    @luizpereira7922 2 роки тому +3

    Asena's story is fascinating. I didn't understand how the "werewolves" became human, tho

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  2 роки тому +5

      That's the funny part of the mythos that nobody's really figured out. I guess after "mixing" so much with the surrounding families and becoming "a clan of 700", as stated in the legend, the werewolf-genes died out.

    • @TheTurkicCc
      @TheTurkicCc 11 місяців тому

      They are not werewolves. They are Turk-Wolf hybrids.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +7

    Ashina was from Tiele tribe

  • @hellslounge6823
    @hellslounge6823 4 роки тому +9

    Wusuns were Turks par excellence.

  • @CoachForsyth
    @CoachForsyth Рік тому +1

    I am also from a clan in Scotland.

  • @faizshaker2904
    @faizshaker2904 4 роки тому +6

    Were Rouran Turkic or Mongolian??
    If there were Turkic peolpe before GokTurk then why didn’t they proclaimed themselves as Turk??What is the relationship between Turkic peolpe and Magyar?
    I am very much interested in Turkic history but whenever I go for it, it seems me too bizarre and confusing.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому +10

      Yes, we agree with you! Turkic history is very complex. But to answer your questions:
      The Rouran called themselves "Avar", which is how they are also known in Turkish history books. The Rouran/Avars of Central Asia later fled from the Turks to Europe and China. It is difficult to say whether they were Turkic or not, since the Rouran were the overlords of many smaller tribes. If we talk about the Rouran, we mean the ruling class of that empire. The language of that ruling class is to this day an "unclassified extinct language". It is probably not of Altaic origin (unlike the Turkic languages), but it is not Chinese either. On the other hand, many elements like the Tengrist religion as well as the political system of the Rouran Khaganate indicate that they at least had some elements of Turkic traditions as part of their own culture.
      But there are many, many other Turkic people that had lived long before the Göktürks' founder Bumin was even born. A hundred years prior to the creation of his empire, the Onoghurs met with the Byzantine Emperor in Constantinople. All of the writings about these meetings (mostly by Greek historians) have proved that those Onoghurs as well as other Tribes in Eastern Europe were speaking a Turkic language and were Tengrist. The difference between them and the Göktürks, who would arrive in Europe at around 555 CE is that they did not see themselves as "Türk". At least, there is no evidence that they did. But the Turkic languages developed long before the Göktürks, so to answer your question, all the Turkic peoples did not call themself "Türk" because that name/title simply did not exist yet. The Germanic people for example also did not have one ubiquitous name for their ethnic tribes, but they were aware of the fact that they all spoke the same (Germanic) language and had the same traditions.
      If you want to find out more about the Turkic peoples that existed before the Göktürks, check out Episodes 3 and 4! We go into detail there.

    • @faizshaker2904
      @faizshaker2904 4 роки тому +1

      @@KhansDen Thank you very much

    • @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508
      @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 4 роки тому

      Old Turkic history depends on mostly Chinese sources because turks were migrants and didn't had too much of writen source but had our own alphabet there is no much source on Turks before Gokturks mostly Myths.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +2

      Şişko Değilim Kemiklerim İri not myths but facts Kyrgyz Turks existed bc 300 and uyghurs ad 200
      Ancient historian Sima Qian wrote many thing about kyrgyz

    • @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508
      @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 4 роки тому

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Sima Qian is Chinese and from Han Dynasty Era

  • @hantan5720
    @hantan5720 3 роки тому

    Very good explanation for my kids

  • @アヤト-f7d
    @アヤト-f7d 4 роки тому +3

    how to pronounce Ilterish?I believe he is one of the Ashina

    • @Red6Games
      @Red6Games 4 роки тому +2

      I think exactly as you wrote: "Ill-te-rish".

    • @aybuke4575
      @aybuke4575 4 роки тому

      @@Red6Games except the "ill" part its kind of accurate since theres no sound for "il" we cant 100% type it in english its okay i guess if you want to hear its pronunciation you can listen to it on google translator

  • @masumrafiquesuman2518
    @masumrafiquesuman2518 4 роки тому +1

    KEEP IT UP

  • @GeoPol01
    @GeoPol01 4 роки тому +2

    Where'd you get these visuals?

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому +1

      From various video distribution sites. They are quite expansive, unfortunately, which is why not even more footage was used.

  • @laaylagi6503
    @laaylagi6503 3 роки тому

    New subscriber

  • @serefsevik8368
    @serefsevik8368 4 роки тому +2

    When will episode 3 come? :(

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately, I've found that doing more videos is not worth the time - at least for now. If there were people donating, then I could keep up with the monthly costs for stock images, editing software etc. But since I am a student and can barely pay for other things in life, I had to pause the series :/
      But if there was indeed more interest - and maybe a few donations here and there - i would definitely continue the series! Initially, I had planned out a whole season of 12 episodes, anyway.

    • @serefsevik8368
      @serefsevik8368 4 роки тому

      @@KhansDen How much the initial cost of a single video would be? I can try and see if I'm able to rally some people for the cause. Heck, I'll just fucking do help you out myself if it comes down to it.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому

      Are you serious? That would be so awesome! It's always great when people spread the word to their friends and family.
      Well, I'm gonna be frank here: I pay $35 for the Editing Software (incl. Photoshop, Audio Recording etc.), $15-30 for footage, $19 for my subscription at MusicVine and another 10 bucks for access to a database full of stock sounds.
      All in all a sum of 80 Dollars. It's certainly financially more reasonable than buying individual stuff where one 10-second video alone would cost $40.
      I know that sounds like much, and it really is for a guy like me, but keep in mind that I'd be making two videos per month.
      So a cost of $40 per video is realistic I think. It takes around 10-20 hours, but once I'm used to it I think the videos would be produced a lot faster.
      There is a Patreon page in the description by the way. You can subscribe for a monthly payment, choosing how much you want to donate, and make use of some exclusive benefits, too.
      Anyway, thanks for your consideration! :)

    • @serefsevik8368
      @serefsevik8368 4 роки тому +4

      @@KhansDen I'll try and see what I can do

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 роки тому

      That would be great. I've established a PayPal account, so if you wanna donate you can do so without any monthly commitments. paypal.me/thekhansden

  • @keshavshah488
    @keshavshah488 4 роки тому +1

    I think I read in wikipedia that reconstructed old Chinese pronounciation of Wusun was Aswina, sounds really similar to Ashina!

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +1

      Ashina tribe never called themselves Ashina but Türük :)))
      Ashina is wusun word

    • @thedailyjusteen7742
      @thedailyjusteen7742 4 роки тому

      Wusun were indo-aryan(Indian)

    • @thedailyjusteen7742
      @thedailyjusteen7742 4 роки тому

      Wusun were indo-aryan(Indian)

    • @edebiefendi1836
      @edebiefendi1836 3 роки тому

      @@thedailyjusteen7742 yes even native americans are IndO-ARiAn...

    • @aslanersoy8970
      @aslanersoy8970 3 роки тому

      You'd better stop spreading wikipedia shit here, we know who you are and what you are intended to do

  • @auraledgereal
    @auraledgereal 2 роки тому

    Hi, Can you make a video about "Kabul Shahi Kingdom ( also called Turk Shahi until 850CE )? They were also turkick but most of people forgot them.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  2 роки тому

      Hi, yes I am familiar with the Turk Shahi. In fact, their history will be part of the next Gokturk Movie which is about the time period between 630 und 681 CE. The Turk Shahi and other Gokturk sucessor states such as the Khazars and Turkic Yabgus of Tokhara will also be covered.

    • @auraledgereal
      @auraledgereal 2 роки тому

      @@KhansDen Can't wait to see it. And also i need to know were there any relation between Hunnish ( Hephthalites ) and Turks in Tocharistan & Bactria?
      In Gokturk case, Some peoples claime ruling Asina clan have Sogdian ancestry. Is that true?

    • @robertomassa731
      @robertomassa731 2 роки тому

      @@auraledgereal
      Ashina Clan was from the Ashina tribe.
      Ashina tribe could have been Sogdian, Saka or Wusun.

  • @ningyan1217
    @ningyan1217 2 роки тому

    This document was recorded in Chinese history official books 2000 years ago!

  • @tengiz
    @tengiz 3 роки тому

    awesome

  • @josephmichael8522
    @josephmichael8522 2 роки тому

    I believe in tengri tanri tengisim I believe that dyues pheter the creator tengri tanri the creator I respect my ancestors to the point that I worship them as ancestors worship All ancestors tengri tanri is real and I feel his spirits tengisim is a true ancient religion I invited you do learning and wisdom tuteh peace and respect harmony love the elders the born and the unborn but get closer to your creator wisdom

  • @hantan5720
    @hantan5720 3 роки тому

    Even viking and nomads was turkic roots english hungirian all turkish backgrounds. During day speech ver similar english turn turkish don english big turkish buyuk english year turkish yil many words smiler but we was took many words arab and persians english took many words from latin end eroupians

    • @FintasticTC
      @FintasticTC 2 роки тому

      Not the Vikings maybe only Finn’s are family with Turks

    • @CruWiT
      @CruWiT 10 місяців тому

      vikings are northern germanic people but Odin probably came from Turkic As Tribe. which "Asgard" name came from As Turks homeland probably.

  • @tedchandran
    @tedchandran 3 роки тому

    Jai Hinduja. All Turkic tribals are descended from a common Ancestor in China's Liaoning 9000 years ago

  • @hemsinghpanwar6470
    @hemsinghpanwar6470 2 роки тому

    4:08 didn't know John snow was a Türk.

  • @hantan5720
    @hantan5720 3 роки тому

    We was ruled two tousend years persian thats why iran end kurdish people we have very similar cultere but today pakistan india iran afganistan kasmir irak syria all half cultere smilar cultere because turkish was mixed all countrys even eroupe russia

  • @yusufylmaz7194
    @yusufylmaz7194 4 роки тому +1

    Juan Juans are not turks. They are proto mongols. However european avars are turk. They were escaping from gokturks.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +2

      Juan juan population was turk but rulers were Donghus

    • @yusufylmaz7194
      @yusufylmaz7194 4 роки тому

      @@papazataklaattiranimam wrong info

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому

      @@yusufylmaz7194 nüfusun çoğu türktü neresi yanlış

    • @yusufylmaz7194
      @yusufylmaz7194 4 роки тому

      @@papazataklaattiranimam yav geç nüfusu devlet geleneği ve hanedan moğol. yaz cücenler diye

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 роки тому +1

      @@yusufylmaz7194 moğol değiller donghu adlı bir kabile hem moğolların hem de tunguzların ortak atası

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    @ТомирисКапышова 2 роки тому +1

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    @ac4633 3 роки тому

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    @sose787 3 роки тому

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      @KhansDen  3 роки тому

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