Maybe I’m wrong but I think that Lev isn’t trans, she is still a girl who pretends to be a man to be a soldier, just as some women took on the identity of a man to be a writer etc.
Honestly the problem isn't that women aren't overly sexy anymore. The problem is that alot of women are just way to masculine to the point where it just becomes ridiculous. Combined with snarky and unlikable personality. Alot of the women in the older Naughty dog games were decent looking, respectable women and some are badasses, the same way as the men were portrayed.
I mean, when they're in extremely active roles that require a lot of physical strength and endurance, you're gonna get more masculine women. It's honestly dumb to have action games where the women AREN'T muscular, where they look more like runway models that in real life would get their faces broken in after the first conflict they undergo.
Can you honestly say that the chich from interstellar is this hypermasculine dude? Why? Cuz of the bald head? Like jesus christ the first thing that comes to my mind when i see a bald chick is Jack from mass effect and how badass and cool she is. You people are so miserable, you go through your lives obviously not knowing how to interact with women, so you got comfortable falling in love with imaginary game women and now you feel personally attacked when a woman in a game isnt designed just around the male gaze but are actual characters with their own motives and wants.
The fact that people hate these female characters is because they literally are made like male characters with face and voice of a female instead... They got them looking like dudes, acting like it, personality, and every other masculine trait there is yet they want people to buy into their BS and believe thats a woman lol and a good female character at that! HA!!
I don't think these LGHQTV advocates understand what made women bad ass in these games. It was their femininity and the fact that they were in tune enough with it to understand how to use it and leverage it to get where they needed to get or get what they wanted, while also being athletic enough to hold their own... Now they just shave their head and make them act like some mediocre man archetype. And what's hilarious is that they genuinely think that the majority of their game base WANTS this trash.
how is it ridiculous that a masculine woman exists in a video game? Masculine women do exist you know? and especially if its set in like a zombie apocalypse for example, then YEAH people are gonna be more masculine because being all pretty aint a priority you guys act like there's some epidemic, but its like less than 10% of games
Not him, but the people he has hired... See the documentary of the last of us (the original) and part 2, It all fucked up between that time. Not an Abby hater, i didn't really care about that drama, but they're going too far with the image they give to their games, it's so drastic and so fast not even the fan base accepts it. This can really damage the image of the studio getting that much hate, to release another game that will get you hate, 10 years of pure drama at least until they release some uncharted remake or TLOUS part 3.
@Cancelowd he's in a team for this, he put even a lot of good ideas cause is a sequel better in everything. And the games he directed are all masterpieces.
Elena was the right fit of feminism. Strong, smart, and pretty. She got a sense of humor. She is every man's dream girl. She was real. But Naughty Dog said she wasn't good enough and they created the monstrosity that was Abby and now we got whatever that was in Intergalactic.
If she is every mans dream woman how could she ever be a right fit for feminism? Dont those two things cancel each other as you keep pointing out? Youre literally saying that feminism is against men, youre the people that say that constantly.
@markedone494 Wrong. People forget that when Feminism started out, they weren't against men. It was about women, and women equality, rights, independence, & and self-esteem. But somewhere along the line it was taken over by the extremists and activist and LGBTQ extremists. That's when all the hating of men started. So they twisted what the Feminist really stand for.
@markedone494 Wrong. I'm pointing out the irony here. People forgot that when feminism started out, it wasn't about going against men. It was about women and women's self-esteem & empowerment. That is until the extremists & activists took over and twisted what the word feminine really means.
@@marcelo_cruz is a soldier and she's farmed her revenge with hate for years, that's the reason of the muscles, and she had all the instrument to build up herself like that, like the Gym and all the food she need.
Druckmann got rid of Amy Hennig during the development of Uncharted 4. Many of the senior staff and director left after. That's where you see the female characters start changing to be... more androgynous due Druckmann's activism trying to get rid of the so-called "male gaze".
@TheGingiGamer I don't think that really matters. Like many Hollywood stars and directors, it's all about virtue signaling. He's also been advocating for activists like Anita Sarkesian who wants to get rid of the male gaze (women also like to see other pretty and feminine women too, so the whole male gaze subject doesn't hold up)
Nate and Helena's child was also supposed to be a son but this was changed later to a daughter because "it wouldn't affect anything." But it absolutely does. If I want to play as afemale treasure hunter, I play Tomb Raider. The whole charm of Uncharted is that it's basically Tomb Raider but with a guy. So Nate's son would be far more logical for a potential sequel. Imagine if this was the other way around. Imagine if a Tomb Raider game releases and instead of Lara Croft you play as her son in the future or something. Who in the right mind would want that? Lara's daughter on the other hand would be far more acceptable. Same case here, Nate's son would be better.
As one of the female gamers that I think they are trying to appeal to. I really loved Elena and Ellie (never played part 2 though). Whoever this new character is, if it were male or female, they are not appealing just based on the script alone besides character design. I hate them all the same due to the condescending and arrogant tone of this script.
@@cdgameplayer4214she should is one of the best game ever created it manages to surpass the first one and it wasn't easy 😂 people like you deserve starfield and veilguard quality in every game
Don’t bother with part 2, my sister loved the original TLOU and was obsessed with the game till she played part 2, now she doesn’t even play the original anymore. Part 2 ruined TLOU for her and it’ll ruin it for you.
@@Walamonga1313"the games everyone wants" yup cause you people always have the best taste in game, that's why the games of the last 20 years are all shit, aight
Let me guess being ugly means not putting hollywood levels of make up in a postypocalyptic enviroment or rendering hair on their face like every single woman in existence has? I couldnt stop laughing after i saw Eve from Stellar blade caked in make up during an apocalypse… But i guess thats what you people want, some of the least original writting supported by fan service for the sexually deprived. Also, eves face isnt that of a real woman like her body, so if you wanna compare western to eastern maybe get an example of a female character from asia thats actually face captured by a real woman and not an imaginary face that you compare to actual western actresses while calling actual women acting as these characters ugly. But an imaginary anime waifu is ofcourse real and how every woman is supposed to look like 😂
@adity-m2gBruh game awards are American price and there are buyed from the big companies are you hearing yourself try defending your woke studios but don’t make it obvious 😂
@Tmaster2006YTyeah sure he created some of the best games in modern gaming, selled milion of copies but you think he should be fired just because you don't like him 😂 Yeah not stupid at all
@@xpromamoLast of us 2 was not enough sold Uncharted 4 was more the other then him end he forced nate have daughter And This new game will flop hard cope harder woke will lose
It's about crying, messaging, crying about how no one is listening to the message, crying while delivering the message, crying that no one is buying the message then stopping at just crying...temporarily until the cycle repeats.
Wonder why the Jak and Daxter series was limited to just Keira's appearance in the first game, the series has more to show especially in the sequels like Ashelin, Tess and the rest of Keira herself because her design changes along with the evolution
@@mr.furious.the.animator you mean, you can't tell if it's female or male? Atleast this time be smart and say "yes i did" even if it's a lie, because you know, you're stupid if you can't tell.
Naughty Dog had good and well written female characters, all thanks to Amy Hennig as a writer and director, before Neil Druckmann came along as director and co-writer with his woke looks. This was already reflected in the development of The Last of Us, if anyone read the story of development. And then, part 2 hammered the last nail into the coffin... it was considered until the appearance of the Intergalactic trailer.
Is it though??? They saying that after Druckmann became a head writer that naughty dog didn't have good female characters. My brother in Christ we've had Ellie Dina Elena in U4 and Abby some of the best and compelling female characters in all of gaming and aren't "woke" Druckmann may be a fucking zionist but a bad writer he is not.
The main problem with people hating part 2 is everyone considers Joel to be a hero while he himself does not. Their was an old animated 3 part VHS movie about aliens abducting people and in the 3rd you find out the aliens are trying to prevent basically tyranids from being able to continue devouring the galaxy and realize their not entirely bad. (If anyone knows what this was plz tell me and thank you) Basically most perceptions were warped by that and the story was decent if you looked at it objectively.
Bioware is headed for the same result or worse if you've been following the news recently. Also don't forget they started the ugly-fying of women with Andromeda.
Naughty Dog started their downhill trajectory starting with The Last of Us Part 2. I knew they weren't the same studio anymore. When they killed Joel, it was the end of the franchise and any hope from the studio for me. They were more about politicizing than entertaining. Naughty Dog became less sexy and more cringeworthy. Anyway I written off the studio similar to how I did with Bioware, Ubisoft, Bethesda, 343i (now Halo studios), Bungie, they were at the peak but the only direction is down. Gaming is not what it used to be anymore.
And the other later characters (e.g. Nitro squad). Also, Tawna would've also been a good case study of the chances in character designs over the years.
yeah guys, we dont want unique female characters. They all have to be the same traditional copy and paste feminine women. If we have anything other than that im gonna rawr
@Battuta2208 I'd have to disagree. I'd rather play a Nadine game and see a character that actually looks like they do what they're doing than play as Lara Croft or Aloy and witness a woman with no muscle do feats that would take years of muscle training to pull off.
@@FemboyKaiSakuLast time I saw Clementine Lara Croft Jill Valentine weren't anime waifus but we're still loved because how badass they were maybe you with anime girl pfp shouldn't speak about others
I disagree, it’s not about naughty dog against attractive appeal. It’s about the setting of the game or the theme of the game that women are in! Uncharted, attractive appeal makes sense! The last of us, attractive appeal doesn’t make sense. Name 5 attractive female in the last of us part 1 and the first season of the last of us HBO series
@@manuelkuma9661Why are you acting like the biggest Naughty Dog fanboy? Believe it or not, many people have sensible reasons for disliking the company's direction for the last 15 years.
@@jlev1028"believe it or not" You act like as if its important to even take random utube comments serious xD I forgot your name 10 minutes after I left this comment. 20 more minutes and I will have forgotten the whole convo.
It's so annoying seeing everyone worry about how "unfeminine" the characters are getting. In the last of us, there are plenty of feminine characters and everyone is losing their sh!t over one muscley woman. Lets not forget to mention, they live in an apocalyptic world, its risky to wear something nice and feminine when out and about, why would you wear short sleeves and a pretty low neckline if youre at constant threat of being bitten there? Theres no time to worry about pretty clothes, you NEED something practical to survive, and womans clothes are the least practical thing there is. We're even shown how beauty standards have changed when ellie asks why that poster of a woman is so skinny and joel tells ellie about how that was the beauty standard, ellie is shocked hearing this because in a world where food is scarce, why would you willingly stay skinny?? You need fat for energy and survival. Survival is first, beauty is second. Also, you need muscles to survive soooo.
Elena is gorgeous and has a natural face, you don't see eyeliner or eyeshadow or lipstick. She's a natural beauty. other females later are also natural and their faces are diverse and unique to their own too, Elena is basically the stereotypical perfect Woman, not saying we shouldn't make more female protagonist or characters like Elena. I think they are adding more females with diverse faces, to make the characters memorable and Unique. If you look at many games featuring Asian girls, they all look too similar to the point you can't tell if the character is from that game or the next so it's not memorable or unique, even if the girls look pretty they just don't stand out. You can make any character look unique regardless of race so there's no excuse. Looks like Naughty dog are adding more females that have a stronger build, may not look soft and fragile like Elena but they are still strong and still look like a Woman regardless except for the one in last of us.....that's just not realistic.
@@FemboyKaiSaku you people don't get do you? you want realtalk? a woke substory and supporting roles will always be welcomed ok, but as a main protagonist and a woke main plot? it will never interest normal people, it's just boring and uninteresting, mostly disgusting..so there you have it, what else is there for you not to realize that it will never sell
@@FemboyKaiSaku everybody knows that naughty dog games always had great gameplay mechanics, it's a shame that gamers will have to pass on that aspect because of political agenda attached to it
2016 was literally the peak of gaming. Everything after started slowly to go downhill, and I think we are close to bottom these days. Sooo it should bounce back at some point? Right...?
Maybe because I am old... I grew up in the lawless 80's, had fun in the hedonistic 90's.... but now that I have 20+ year old daughters... kinda happy to see women who can hold their own. A strong female character does not take away from a strong male character. They enhance each other. It not about sex, it's about getting the job (game story) done. But I am on a gaming channel with 30 yo incels... so I am sure all of this is falling on deaf ears.
Y’all are silly if this bothers you. It always baffles me how people who claim to be fans of creativity try to place rules on others creative visions. I’m looking forward to Intergalactic just as much as I was Stellar Blade.
They call us misogynists and sexists. But we're not sexualizing anything by wanting confident attractive feminine women in games. Theres absolutely NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! Say it loud and proud! Women do the same, they want attractive men in games and celebrate beautiful female characters. Nothing wrong with being sexy and feminine!
Yeah many people also complained about the looks of the new characters but most people are AMD because Naughty dog doesn't care anymore in making a good and likeable character anymore and just are to obsessed with forcing their Idiologie on the players and splitting the community in two with it
@@davidilling6850 hat's completely different, you 12 year old dolt.. Ripley is badass and sexy - this abomination is not, in the slightest. Literally looking like Tupac...
Idk about y’all, but in general I’m getting real sick of the arrogant self obsessed narcissistic ego maniac characters that have been plaguing the entertainment industry these last 10 years. The condescending attitudes, the cocky facial expressions, the bratty voices/mannerisms, it’s all so unappealing. Something we’re sorely missing in modern entertainment, especially with leading characters, is sincerity..
You actually missed a few characters. Coco Bandicoot and Tawna should have been the ones to start the video before Keira, and there were some more from Jak such as Ashelin, Tess, and Rayn.
Adding to that, I was never in particular horny for sigourney. But that's different I guess. Also, why is it okay for them having Asians dude without them beeing super sexy? Inconsistent all the way.
@@davidilling6850Ripley is a sympathetic character. Her character isn’t soley loved for being “strong”. The audience wants Ripley win against the Xenomorphs and Weyland-Yutani. Neil Druckmann writes women in an apathetic way and nobody wants to cheer for them despite being “strong”.
Ripley was bald only in 3 movie and because she was at prison. And she still looks like women even without hair. That's the problem with that type of "strong independent" women characters we have nowadays in gaming, they trying to looks like men for some reason😂
Need those Tess before and after shots, too. By my eye, it looks like it started with Lost Legacy Chloe, and they never looked back. That was 2017. Any big things happening in 2017?
Watching this made me realize I miss the Jak & Daxter games.... And that WOKE-ness and the defeminization of women in games is absolutely killing the game industry (in addition to poor writing, poorly-made games, etc.)
If you are a bigoted cis male who has never been close to a woman in your life their is but if you are a normal human no not in the slightest. so no there is no problem
@@Rivercloud, assuming for a second that this comment isn’t rage bait (seriously I cannot fully believe someone is as demented as this), you do realise you sound more racist and problematic than the people you claim to be against? Just say you hate white people, men and heterosexual people because you lack the ability to think for yourself. Your already saying it in the subtext so the least you can do is be honest about your real feelings.
i did not expect many people to have a problem with how naughty dog's portrayal of women changed. i mean as a woman myself, i LOVE just how real these characters felt especially Abby. maybe its because of their masculine-like presence but meh
Nah, abby is hated because she play golf. Her bad design also add fuel to the fire. The last of us 2 trailer was deceptive (google this topic) Since then, people lose trust in Neil story telling. The latest intergalactic bald female lesbian cocky main character.. well its just ugly.. and all the lesbian thing is forced. The actresses also blatantly mock gamers. and people doesn't trust Neil anymore.
Fun fact: Neil Druckmann wanted to kill off Elena in Uncharted 2 but was held back by Bruce Straley.
The source?
@@pashenkoukraine "trust me bro, i hate druckmann so is totally accurate"
Another fact Amy Hennig wanted nate to have a son. Neil gave him a daughter to most likely spite
@@Kat1kafkaprolly put personal things as he has a daughter
@@pashenkoukrainehe commented about this on Reddit
Not gonna lie, first thing in my mind when I see the bald chick from their new game is that trans kid from Last of Us II has grown up
Yeah that's the same boy, odd you didn't notice
@@a_very_burnt_steak literally not but ok
Weirdo behaviour
@@Bot-vx4bf"weirdo behaviour" usually said by people that have no arguement
Maybe I’m wrong but I think that Lev isn’t trans, she is still a girl who pretends to be a man to be a soldier, just as some women took on the identity of a man to be a writer etc.
Honestly the problem isn't that women aren't overly sexy anymore.
The problem is that alot of women are just way to masculine to the point where it just becomes ridiculous. Combined with snarky and unlikable personality.
Alot of the women in the older Naughty dog games were decent looking, respectable women and some are badasses, the same way as the men were portrayed.
I mean, when they're in extremely active roles that require a lot of physical strength and endurance, you're gonna get more masculine women. It's honestly dumb to have action games where the women AREN'T muscular, where they look more like runway models that in real life would get their faces broken in after the first conflict they undergo.
Can you honestly say that the chich from interstellar is this hypermasculine dude?
Why? Cuz of the bald head?
Like jesus christ the first thing that comes to my mind when i see a bald chick is Jack from mass effect and how badass and cool she is.
You people are so miserable, you go through your lives obviously not knowing how to interact with women, so you got comfortable falling in love with imaginary game women and now you feel personally attacked when a woman in a game isnt designed just around the male gaze but are actual characters with their own motives and wants.
The fact that people hate these female characters is because they literally are made like male characters with face and voice of a female instead... They got them looking like dudes, acting like it, personality, and every other masculine trait there is yet they want people to buy into their BS and believe thats a woman lol and a good female character at that! HA!!
I don't think these LGHQTV advocates understand what made women bad ass in these games. It was their femininity and the fact that they were in tune enough with it to understand how to use it and leverage it to get where they needed to get or get what they wanted, while also being athletic enough to hold their own... Now they just shave their head and make them act like some mediocre man archetype. And what's hilarious is that they genuinely think that the majority of their game base WANTS this trash.
how is it ridiculous that a masculine woman exists in a video game? Masculine women do exist you know?
and especially if its set in like a zombie apocalypse for example, then YEAH people are gonna be more masculine because being all pretty aint a priority
you guys act like there's some epidemic, but its like less than 10% of games
Vote with your wallets. This is the way.
im gonna get it then xD xD im coming for sci fy not for boobies
im thought ND already shook off the dead-weight crowd (you) that moan about the “woke”.. they dont need your money, look at the last of us 2..
This is the way.
Elena in Uncharted 4 was perfection.
I was thinking the same thing.
Yeah, she really looks like a blonde Mary Jane Watson.
they cooked so hard with the facial models for that game, it still holds up strong 10 years later
It's giving adolf
@@Manuelomar2001 It's such a shame that we never know how she looks like without that hair bun
Neil Drunkmann is worst thing to happen to Naughty Dog.
Not him, but the people he has hired... See the documentary of the last of us (the original) and part 2, It all fucked up between that time.
Not an Abby hater, i didn't really care about that drama, but they're going too far with the image they give to their games, it's so drastic and so fast not even the fan base accepts it.
This can really damage the image of the studio getting that much hate, to release another game that will get you hate, 10 years of pure drama at least until they release some uncharted remake or TLOUS part 3.
You mean the director of the 3 best games of the studio? The writer of uncharted 2?
@@manuelkuma9661 bruh neil wanted to kill off elena in uncharted 2, he was on a leech now he has been set free to do what he wants.
@Cancelowd he's in a team for this, he put even a lot of good ideas cause is a sequel better in everything. And the games he directed are all masterpieces.
@@manuelkuma9661, which games did he direct alone? (I already know, I just want to see you write it out for everyone to see)
"It's evolving, just backwards".
genuinely what are you yapping about
@@ToiletEploder712Naughty Dog's game library. If you can't see they've been less and less fun over time, you need to get your head examined.
Degrading 😅
What are you yapping about?
@@ToiletEploder712 About involution.
“Look how they massacred my girls”
Your girls? How did the Asian girl looked before?
@@davidilling6850 i prefer yellow skinned not bald
@@davidilling6850 They didn't look like monsters last time i checked Mr Sony fanboy
@@davidilling6850 You never had Asian girls before. I can tell. Fun fact, they have hair and feminine body and personality.
@@davidilling6850 i prefer yellow skin not bald
Elena was the right fit of feminism. Strong, smart, and pretty. She got a sense of humor. She is every man's dream girl. She was real. But Naughty Dog said she wasn't good enough and they created the monstrosity that was Abby and now we got whatever that was in Intergalactic.
Yes because a bald woman cant be real
If she is every mans dream woman how could she ever be a right fit for feminism? Dont those two things cancel each other as you keep pointing out?
Youre literally saying that feminism is against men, youre the people that say that constantly.
@@pieth68even muscular women can't exist for those people 😂 pathetic
@markedone494 Wrong. People forget that when Feminism started out, they weren't against men. It was about women, and women equality, rights, independence, & and self-esteem. But somewhere along the line it was taken over by the extremists and activist and LGBTQ extremists. That's when all the hating of men started. So they twisted what the Feminist really stand for.
@markedone494 Wrong. I'm pointing out the irony here. People forgot that when feminism started out, it wasn't about going against men. It was about women and women's self-esteem & empowerment. That is until the extremists & activists took over and twisted what the word feminine really means.
5:41 the diving suit so caught me off guard lmao
TLoU2 was a sign and The Heretic Prophet is a confirmation
tlou 2 WAS the confirmation
nadine was a sign and tlou 2 was the confirmation*
I think Druckmann like woman with surprises
Is just bald, bro he never created trans characters...
@@manuelkuma9661He did in TLOU Part 2. But Lev it was so irrelevant because his arc was literally "I'm trans" and nothing else.
@@manuelkuma9661what about lev ?
@manuelkuma9661 What about Abby? More muscles than any male character in an apocalyptic world.
@@marcelo_cruz is a soldier and she's farmed her revenge with hate for years, that's the reason of the muscles, and she had all the instrument to build up herself like that, like the Gym and all the food she need.
Druckmann got rid of Amy Hennig during the development of Uncharted 4. Many of the senior staff and director left after. That's where you see the female characters start changing to be... more androgynous due Druckmann's activism trying to get rid of the so-called "male gaze".
But why? He's a straight man.
He's pure soy. Listen to his goofy talks. He thinks he's leading the charge to save women from toxic white males.
The "Druckmann got rid of Amy Hennig" thing was debunked buy Amy Henning herself. Years ago. You had YEARS to look for the info.
@TheGingiGamer I don't think that really matters. Like many Hollywood stars and directors, it's all about virtue signaling. He's also been advocating for activists like Anita Sarkesian who wants to get rid of the male gaze (women also like to see other pretty and feminine women too, so the whole male gaze subject doesn't hold up)
Nate and Helena's child was also supposed to be a son but this was changed later to a daughter because "it wouldn't affect anything."
But it absolutely does. If I want to play as afemale treasure hunter, I play Tomb Raider. The whole charm of Uncharted is that it's basically Tomb Raider but with a guy. So Nate's son would be far more logical for a potential sequel. Imagine if this was the other way around. Imagine if a Tomb Raider game releases and instead of Lara Croft you play as her son in the future or something. Who in the right mind would want that? Lara's daughter on the other hand would be far more acceptable. Same case here, Nate's son would be better.
Naughty dog no longer naughty now..
more like misbehave canine now
No, they’re just a bad dog now
They're still one of the best software house in the world 😂
@@nyomanbandarayani6830😭😭
@@xpromamoworst
I'm packing my bags and leaving for Mars.
"I'm leaving on a jet plane, and I don't know when I'll be back again."
i already booked my ticket
Where have you bought your ticket bro?@@LyuboA
Please dont come back. Thank you
Where can I buy a ticket to Mars?
After the last one I'm gonna need to play Bayonetta just to fix my mood
Or old fighting games
@KingJadInfiniteHope Oooh Nice. Dead or Alive here I come
Yeah bayonetta the hotties female character
Or Stellar Blade
Same
relax guys, its about the MESSAGE.
That message, won't serve in this era. That "Message" holds no water, no actual means.
@@themightyaj1 art usually is always politic, and the message i see is totally fine.
@@manuelkuma9661 🤫🧏♂
@@manuelkuma9661 cheap bait
@@d4bad_bot just my opinion
It's so over, people, pack up, we're leaving.
Bye!!! 👋
@@ImSoSja, you are evidently short sighted.
Good news
Go woke go broke 🔥🔥🔥
@@hellchemical never happened
As one of the female gamers that I think they are trying to appeal to. I really loved Elena and Ellie (never played part 2 though). Whoever this new character is, if it were male or female, they are not appealing just based on the script alone besides character design. I hate them all the same due to the condescending and arrogant tone of this script.
Don't play part 2!!
What new character are you referring to? The one from Intergalactic? And which condescending arrogant script?
@@cdgameplayer4214she should is one of the best game ever created it manages to surpass the first one and it wasn't easy 😂 people like you deserve starfield and veilguard quality in every game
Don’t bother with part 2, my sister loved the original TLOU and was obsessed with the game till she played part 2, now she doesn’t even play the original anymore.
Part 2 ruined TLOU for her and it’ll ruin it for you.
@GLynch_2011 no it does not par 2 made part 1 even better and more meaningful, you're just the usual braindead fan
As PC gamer, i won't mind if ND latest titles stay as PS exclusive forever.
Agree. Those mfs keep porting garbage and not the games everyone wants. Bloodborne, the original GOWs, Astrobot, Gravity Rush, Gran Turismo...
If they do and the gameplay is decent, theirs always mods
cool
@@Walamonga1313"the games everyone wants" yup cause you people always have the best taste in game, that's why the games of the last 20 years are all shit, aight
@@davidilling6850 Mad
asian devs: make the character as beauty as possible
west devs: make the character as ugly as possible
Let me guess being ugly means not putting hollywood levels of make up in a postypocalyptic enviroment or rendering hair on their face like every single woman in existence has?
I couldnt stop laughing after i saw Eve from Stellar blade caked in make up during an apocalypse… But i guess thats what you people want, some of the least original writting supported by fan service for the sexually deprived.
Also, eves face isnt that of a real woman like her body, so if you wanna compare western to eastern maybe get an example of a female character from asia thats actually face captured by a real woman and not an imaginary face that you compare to actual western actresses while calling actual women acting as these characters ugly. But an imaginary anime waifu is ofcourse real and how every woman is supposed to look like 😂
That's why almost all games at game awards were asian
@adity-m2gBruh game awards are American price and there are buyed from the big companies are you hearing yourself try defending your woke studios but don’t make it obvious 😂
@@azizalfa752 atrobot over space marine and wukong. the voting system is obviously rig 😆
Because some asian love big oppa, sexy and beautiful face intergalactic MC is a Bounty hunter not some sassy girl @adity-m2g
Cause in those blessed times Drunkman was on a second development roles.
He should’ve been fired…
@Tmaster2006YTyeah sure he created some of the best games in modern gaming, selled milion of copies but you think he should be fired just because you don't like him 😂
Yeah not stupid at all
@@xpromamoLast of us 2 was not enough sold Uncharted 4 was more the other then him end he forced nate have daughter And This new game will flop hard cope harder woke will lose
@azizalfa752 sure, just like tlou2 flopped right? 🤣 A 10 millions flop😂
Cry about it, you're comment is soo stupid
@@azizalfa752 more the 15 milions, they're doing a new ip cause they did a grrat job in terms of revenues.
Its not about appeal anymore or writing.
It's about crying, messaging, crying about how no one is listening to the message, crying while delivering the message, crying that no one is buying the message then stopping at just crying...temporarily until the cycle repeats.
@ agreed
It is, you've just bad taste or a hate for women maybe
@@manuelkuma9661 You need better bait.
@@manuelkuma9661?
Wonder why the Jak and Daxter series was limited to just Keira's appearance in the first game, the series has more to show especially in the sequels like Ashelin, Tess and the rest of Keira herself because her design changes along with the evolution
The last one is not a female, but is a bald dude in space 😂
I agree WOKE GARBAGE
Aren't you funny 🤡
@yasersarwari2799He's not wrong, though 😂
@@mr.furious.the.animator you mean, you can't tell if it's female or male? Atleast this time be smart and say "yes i did" even if it's a lie, because you know, you're stupid if you can't tell.
@yasersarwari2799You are Neil Druckman's alt-account.
"Devolution of Female Characters in Naughty Dog Games" - fixed the title for you
Nah, the title is correct as it is meant to be sarcastic.
"I present to you the DEvolvo Ray, it is like the EvolvoRay but backwards." -Neo Cortex
That's basically Naughty Dog's history since the late 2000s.
@@jlev1028 Since 2020
@@TheGingiGamertlou2 is great cry about it
Go woke go broke 🔥🔥🔥
you got all these hot asf girls like elena,chloe,ellie and then you just got jordan 💀
You think Ellie hot asf🤨 lol to each their own, Ellie is in the same boat as Jordan.
It started with Macho Ma'am Abby Savage
@@miguels.b.2749 That joke was way to corny to be funny, thumbs down 👎🏾
You're talking bout minor ellie or adult ellie? 😂😂 Nice self report
@@davidilling6850 no adult obv
Is this like what Joker 2 director did? Dude just wanted to piss off the fanbase and stop making sequels lol
Naughty Dog had good and well written female characters, all thanks to Amy Hennig as a writer and director, before Neil Druckmann came along as director and co-writer with his woke looks. This was already reflected in the development of The Last of Us, if anyone read the story of development. And then, part 2 hammered the last nail into the coffin... it was considered until the appearance of the Intergalactic trailer.
Grow tf up
@@Him-t4z, wdym grow up? The comment is completely factual.
Is it though??? They saying that after Druckmann became a head writer that naughty dog didn't have good female characters. My brother in Christ we've had Ellie Dina Elena in U4 and Abby some of the best and compelling female characters in all of gaming and aren't "woke" Druckmann may be a fucking zionist but a bad writer he is not.
The main problem with people hating part 2 is everyone considers Joel to be a hero while he himself does not.
Their was an old animated 3 part VHS movie about aliens abducting people and in the 3rd you find out the aliens are trying to prevent basically tyranids from being able to continue devouring the galaxy and realize their not entirely bad.
(If anyone knows what this was plz tell me and thank you)
Basically most perceptions were warped by that and the story was decent if you looked at it objectively.
The druckmann storytelling is really, really better. Uncharted 4, tlou 1&2 are maybe their best games.
Also, you want show how female characters in Naughty Dog games changed, yet you forgot Tawna and her fellow Bandicoot sisters? For shame!
Remember this is the same developer who made Tawna from Crash Bandicoot.
Where's she btw?
in 2030 these people doesn't know what is girls anymore
when i saw the thumbnail
yeah i thought ‘you are cheating!!!’ …and i wanted this so much so let’s go
Mass Effect is better for women and aliens
Bioware is headed for the same result or worse if you've been following the news recently. Also don't forget they started the ugly-fying of women with Andromeda.
Naughty Dog started their downhill trajectory starting with The Last of Us Part 2. I knew they weren't the same studio anymore. When they killed Joel, it was the end of the franchise and any hope from the studio for me. They were more about politicizing than entertaining. Naughty Dog became less sexy and more cringeworthy. Anyway I written off the studio similar to how I did with Bioware, Ubisoft, Bethesda, 343i (now Halo studios), Bungie, they were at the peak but the only direction is down. Gaming is not what it used to be anymore.
That's why I go for indie games now. They're actually not so bad.
Game sucked because Joel died? Makes no sense.
The new game looking goofy af tho
What's wrong with Bethesda?
@DeenSamuel they're woke
This reads like someone still suffering from buyer's remorse.
I miss when Jason Rubin, Andy Gavin, and Amy Hennig were at Naughty Dog. And here we have Neil's project "Stellar Bald".
9:08 It might sound messed up, but seeing bloody Ellie laying on the floor with a space suit on made me giggle 😂
Where's Coco?
And the other later characters (e.g. Nitro squad).
Also, Tawna would've also been a good case study of the chances in character designs over the years.
Nadine is kinda the benchmark. Strong and feminine. Apparently that's a balance that isn't easy to strike in character design, but they nailed it.
Nadine😂😂…an Absolutely bland character
yeah guys, we dont want unique female characters. They all have to be the same traditional copy and paste feminine women.
If we have anything other than that im gonna rawr
@Battuta2208 I'd have to disagree. I'd rather play a Nadine game and see a character that actually looks like they do what they're doing than play as Lara Croft or Aloy and witness a woman with no muscle do feats that would take years of muscle training to pull off.
You are alone buddy@@DA_BOID
@@DA_BOID So you guys want historical accuracy but hate when strong women actually look strong
Uncharted 4 Elena was peak
That build up from the beginning of their franchises to Last of Us 2 was cold water to the face.
It's almost like Naughty Dog is allergic to both sexy and badass now in days.
its almost like yall are allergic to anything that isnt an anime girl with honky honks
@@FemboyKaiSakuLast time I saw Clementine Lara Croft Jill Valentine weren't anime waifus but we're still loved because how badass they were maybe you with anime girl pfp shouldn't speak about others
@adity-m2g my pfp isnt a girl
and clementine is bi, last time i checked thats pretty woke dont you think?
@adity-m2g Why do you have to be attracted to the character to enjoy the game i dont get it
I disagree, it’s not about naughty dog against attractive appeal. It’s about the setting of the game or the theme of the game that women are in! Uncharted, attractive appeal makes sense! The last of us, attractive appeal doesn’t make sense. Name 5 attractive female in the last of us part 1 and the first season of the last of us HBO series
Back when they had fun making games
So like the last one
@@manuelkuma9661Why are you acting like the biggest Naughty Dog fanboy? Believe it or not, many people have sensible reasons for disliking the company's direction for the last 15 years.
@@jlev1028I don't think he is the biggest naughty dog fan boy, I don't think anyone has to be to critique your crybabies behavior.
@@jlev1028"believe it or not"
You act like as if its important to even take random utube comments serious xD I forgot your name 10 minutes after I left this comment. 20 more minutes and I will have forgotten the whole convo.
@@davidilling6850 You act like as if its important to even take random UA-cam comments serious, why even comment xD
It's so annoying seeing everyone worry about how "unfeminine" the characters are getting. In the last of us, there are plenty of feminine characters and everyone is losing their sh!t over one muscley woman. Lets not forget to mention, they live in an apocalyptic world, its risky to wear something nice and feminine when out and about, why would you wear short sleeves and a pretty low neckline if youre at constant threat of being bitten there? Theres no time to worry about pretty clothes, you NEED something practical to survive, and womans clothes are the least practical thing there is. We're even shown how beauty standards have changed when ellie asks why that poster of a woman is so skinny and joel tells ellie about how that was the beauty standard, ellie is shocked hearing this because in a world where food is scarce, why would you willingly stay skinny?? You need fat for energy and survival. Survival is first, beauty is second.
Also, you need muscles to survive soooo.
The last one is female?
@@saintgeezus ye, you never saw one of them?
It doesn't look like one
@@THOUGHTBOhhh nooo we're in 1940 woman can't shave or I cry 😢
@@xpromamo Have you ever seen someone complain about bald womans in BF1? NO! because they still look like woman!
@@THOUGHTB yeah just like this character 😂 but it's naughty dog soo you have to complain
Elena is gorgeous and has a natural face, you don't see eyeliner or eyeshadow or lipstick. She's a natural beauty. other females later are also natural and their faces are diverse and unique to their own too, Elena is basically the stereotypical perfect Woman, not saying we shouldn't make more female protagonist or characters like Elena. I think they are adding more females with diverse faces, to make the characters memorable and Unique. If you look at many games featuring Asian girls, they all look too similar to the point you can't tell if the character is from that game or the next so it's not memorable or unique, even if the girls look pretty they just don't stand out. You can make any character look unique regardless of race so there's no excuse. Looks like Naughty dog are adding more females that have a stronger build, may not look soft and fragile like Elena but they are still strong and still look like a Woman regardless except for the one in last of us.....that's just not realistic.
The last one is someone's uncle who just released from prison days.
Elena is honestly The PEAK of supporting characters in all of gaming, even if her interjection into Uncharted 3 felt a bit random
from naughty to wokey
Wokey Dog!
@@yutro213 Because the Dog was woke up. Get it?
Then you will go and support rdr2 pretending like that game isnt woke
because it dont fit your narrative
@@FemboyKaiSaku you people don't get do you? you want realtalk? a woke substory and supporting roles will always be welcomed ok, but as a main protagonist and a woke main plot? it will never interest normal people, it's just boring and uninteresting, mostly disgusting..so there you have it, what else is there for you not to realize that it will never sell
@@FemboyKaiSaku everybody knows that naughty dog games always had great gameplay mechanics, it's a shame that gamers will have to pass on that aspect because of political agenda attached to it
2027 Games: Women, gays, and lesbians have taken over the world, and fortunately no men have survived.
All the woke shit started to evolve after last of us 1
Whoa, where’s Tawna and Coco
It's just been downhill since 2016, I swear
From female to gay character.
2016 was literally the peak of gaming. Everything after started slowly to go downhill, and I think we are close to bottom these days. Sooo it should bounce back at some point? Right...?
Bottom he says, haha...
Bruce Straley and Amy Henning leaving ND was a real loss to the industry. R.i.P ND 1995-2017.
2032 Naughty dog woman will just be Druckman in a dress
0:40 are we sure this ain't from one of... those websites?
A people of culture I guess
Maybe because I am old... I grew up in the lawless 80's, had fun in the hedonistic 90's.... but now that I have 20+ year old daughters... kinda happy to see women who can hold their own. A strong female character does not take away from a strong male character. They enhance each other. It not about sex, it's about getting the job (game story) done.
But I am on a gaming channel with 30 yo incels... so I am sure all of this is falling on deaf ears.
Y’all are silly if this bothers you. It always baffles me how people who claim to be fans of creativity try to place rules on others creative visions. I’m looking forward to Intergalactic just as much as I was Stellar Blade.
This is what happens when people don't have an original thought, pick up an idea somebody else made, and then fixate on it.
Which one?
the future of naughty dog gaming is cooked
Nadine in U4 was badass🗿
They call us misogynists and sexists. But we're not sexualizing anything by wanting confident attractive feminine women in games. Theres absolutely NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! Say it loud and proud! Women do the same, they want attractive men in games and celebrate beautiful female characters. Nothing wrong with being sexy and feminine!
Cry cry cry
Naughty dog fans when female characters aren't hourglass, beautiful hair and big features: 🤬😡
Yeah many people also complained about the looks of the new characters but most people are AMD because Naughty dog doesn't care anymore in making a good and likeable character anymore and just are to obsessed with forcing their Idiologie on the players and splitting the community in two with it
From hot women to women with cancer
Tell that sigourney wever 😂😂😂 but right, alien never happened.
@@davidilling6850 hat's completely different, you 12 year old dolt.. Ripley is badass and sexy - this abomination is not, in the slightest. Literally looking like Tupac...
@@FunnyRedemption Cancer doesn’t make you lose hair
@@shrumgus5608 Never said that it does.
@ this is how they don’t have to animate the hair though
Why the heck is Nate is in wetsuit at 6:27
That’s my question 😭💀
Just in case he has to swim
@@forrestgumball That’s so naughty, dog 😏😂😂
Probably the same reason why Ellie's in a spacesuit at 8:08 lol
2014+: We're evolving... but backwards.
We do anyway with or without games, cause humans are dumb apes
@@Neonagi for gooners like you
It's the "Devolution of Female Characters" after Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.
Idk about y’all, but in general I’m getting real sick of the arrogant self obsessed narcissistic ego maniac characters that have been plaguing the entertainment industry these last 10 years.
The condescending attitudes, the cocky facial expressions, the bratty voices/mannerisms, it’s all so unappealing. Something we’re sorely missing in modern entertainment, especially with leading characters, is sincerity..
Never played Uncharted but instantly recognised Claudia Black's voice. Hello, Morrigan:)
More like involution
Degradation
Devolution, that's the term.
@@yannkam2127 thanks
You actually missed a few characters. Coco Bandicoot and Tawna should have been the ones to start the video before Keira, and there were some more from Jak such as Ashelin, Tess, and Rayn.
Yeah totally no agenda ☠️
you can see the point where the gate keeping stopped working.
C'mon, it's a sci-fi! Look at Ripley's haircut for Christ sake
Adding to that, I was never in particular horny for sigourney. But that's different I guess.
Also, why is it okay for them having Asians dude without them beeing super sexy? Inconsistent all the way.
Ailen3 Ripley, I guess. Wasn't she in prison in that one
@@davidilling6850Ripley is a sympathetic character. Her character isn’t soley loved for being “strong”. The audience wants Ripley win against the Xenomorphs and Weyland-Yutani.
Neil Druckmann writes women in an apathetic way and nobody wants to cheer for them despite being “strong”.
Ripley was bald only in 3 movie and because she was at prison. And she still looks like women even without hair. That's the problem with that type of "strong independent" women characters we have nowadays in gaming, they trying to looks like men for some reason😂
You can visually see where they peaked with their female characters and where it starts to completely drop off a cliff
You forgot the most important, Coco Bandicoot.
Need those Tess before and after shots, too. By my eye, it looks like it started with Lost Legacy Chloe, and they never looked back. That was 2017. Any big things happening in 2017?
I wouldn't call that an evolution
It's evolution. Just backward.
"It's my safe word." love him🤣
What happen?😅😅
Women
J elite wants to spread the message and change western society by using everything including video games
@@theteamxxx3142👃
Communists
Where the hell are Tawna and Coco Bandicoot?!
Watching this made me realize I miss the Jak & Daxter games....
And that WOKE-ness and the defeminization of women in games is absolutely killing the game industry (in addition to poor writing, poorly-made games, etc.)
Nah it's capitalism that kills the game industry, what you think they do that woke stuff for 😂😂😂 but Ey I don't expect slaves to use their mind.
I remember it only being a couple channels bringing stuff like this up like ROBINGAMING, mannnn i wonder how bro doing
"Evolution."
Ayy lmao.
I'd be wishing for another Uncharted game with Cassie as the MC... if I wasn't worried some dumbass might decide to kill Nate.
is there a problem?
If you are a bigoted cis male who has never been close to a woman in your life their is but if you are a normal human no not in the slightest. so no there is no problem
@@Rivercloud, assuming for a second that this comment isn’t rage bait (seriously I cannot fully believe someone is as demented as this), you do realise you sound more racist and problematic than the people you claim to be against?
Just say you hate white people, men and heterosexual people because you lack the ability to think for yourself. Your already saying it in the subtext so the least you can do is be honest about your real feelings.
Yes naughty dog is woke now
@@agent_mc in what way?
@@Sercrocin the way that they have female Asians as protags, I don't get the woke crying either
Shit is ridiculous, I don’t even gotta more than that.
This new game looks non-buy-nary to me.
I wish you included more on the Jak trilogy. There were more females than Keira in Jak 1, and you skipped over Jak 2 & 3.
i did not expect many people to have a problem with how naughty dog's portrayal of women changed. i mean as a woman myself, i LOVE just how real these characters felt especially Abby. maybe its because of their masculine-like presence but meh
Nah, abby is hated because she play golf.
Her bad design also add fuel to the fire.
The last of us 2 trailer was deceptive (google this topic)
Since then, people lose trust in Neil story telling.
The latest intergalactic bald female lesbian cocky main character.. well its just ugly.. and all the lesbian thing is forced. The actresses also blatantly mock gamers. and people doesn't trust Neil anymore.
"She's pregnant"
"Good!"
I like how they officially hired a gorilla as motion capture artist for their next game
Wow, what a down grade , have fun your modern slop
I think we need to feed our wallets to jew made slop
neil really hate the old fans of naughty dogs, he doing it all in spite.
Looks great to me. The Last of Us Part II is my favorite game. I’m guessing Intergalactic: Heretic Prophecy will be even better.
Even Nadine was already leaning towards woke design it's a shame because i love her voice actor.
Yooo everything started with Marlene….
To me started with Nadine beatin Sam and Nathan at the same time and then the dlc happened
@@alicolina8083cause God forbid that women are able to do martial arts